Does anyone know anything of these addresses (in 1846 and 1842/1843)?: (neither seem to exist now) 1) 1, Adelphi Place, Leith Links. George Forman, Wine Merchant died there in 1846. I have an idea this was some kind of architectural experiment and not ice there is a "Vanbrugh Hermitage" now on Leith Links. 2) Leven Hall. A George Forman is listed in the Edinburgh & Leith PO directory for 1842-1843 as follows: Forman, George, publican, Leven Hall. Was there an old Leven Hall East of Leith? I think George is probably one and the same person. Andrew Forman Royal Oak Yard, Skipton, BD23 1NP +44 1756 701501 Forman@royaloakyard.freeserve.co.uk

JOHN DALGLEISH born SCOTLAND [unknown place,date], married [unknown],had son JOHN DALGLEISH,who married ANN NORRIS,a spinster of the parish of BERWICK-UPON-TWEED,on 7th march 1869,both aged 21 years,john was living in fountain bridge edinburgh,ann was living in palace street,berwick-upon-tweed.her fathers name david norris. john dalgleish,a baker by profession,died of smallpox on 21st jan.1872. Ann Dalgleish [widow] re-marries on 6th Sept.1879, John SOMERVILLE,of castlegate,berwick-upon-tweed[fathers name-ralph somerville] shown in 1881 cencus all living together at 60,castlegate,with step-sons william alexander DALGLEISH [my grand father] and john DALGLEISH. However,the SOMERVILLES have dis-appeared in the 1891 cencus,and the boys are with grandmother mrs.Ann p. Norris [widow] john was described as a newspaper reporter,who later married a mary ? ,and died 11th dec.1910,aged 41 years,mary died 6th may 1956,at 74, castlegate,berwick-upon-tweed, buried in un-consecrated ground at civic cemetery[church of scotland] ann SOMERVILLE died 12th Dec.1906 ,west end,tweedmouth,aged 56,son DAVID SOMERVILLE present at death john SOMERVILLE died 11th september 1925 at 74,castlegate,berwick-upon-tweed,son DAVID SOMERVILLE living at spittal. need more information on the scottish connection with DALGLEISH ,NORRIS, AND SOMERVILLE,ALSO DESENDANTS iA

Any idea where this street was between 1780 and 1830? James Forman, Baker lived at Richmond's Street when he married in 1780. Margaret Forman (probably his second daughter to be called Margaret) died at 31, E. Richmond Street of "water on the chest" in 1830. Andrew Forman Royal Oak Yard, Skipton, BD23 1NP +44 1756 701501 Forman@royaloakyard.freeserve.co.uk

Hello Andrew, There was (and still is) an Adelphi Place in Portobello. My Mother was born there in 1902 and my Grandmother lived in the same house (No 11) until her death in 1956. The house still stands - at least it did in May of this year! I think that No 1 may also still be there, but not sure. Could possibly be your Adelphi Place. Regards, Ian

Hi Carol, I saw this posting asking for any and all info.......this is a long shot, but some of the names were familiar and I haven't found much on my Great Grandmother Agnes Lindsay Inglis, born 1862 in Edinburgh I believe. She married Alexander Inglis in 1885 in Chicago, Il. America. Their children's names were Agnes, Alexander, Janet, William, George, Ruth, Florence, Margaret, and Elizabeth. Would you happen to have any info about an Agnes Lindsay in the family lines? Thanks, Robin George Soutar b ? married Robina Lindsay Kerr 1853 Dalkeith dau of Alexander Kerr and Margaret Paterson children * George abt 1857 England Margaret 1859 Glasgow Alexander Kerr 1862 Dalkeith George Soutar married Helen Smith 1882 Dalkeith dau of Andrew Smith and Elizabeth Murray, Hawick children Alexander Kerr 1883 Andrew Murray 1884-6 George Lindsay 1888 Edinburgh William Murray 1888 Edinburgh twins George Lindsay 1890 Glasgow * Robert Deans 1893 Glasgow Elizabeth Agnes Murray 1896 Hawick George died 1928 Edinburgh

Hi Colin This is not much help to you, but I'd just like to point out that when you say "David Ogilvy who did his apprenticeship at the Signet Law Firm Edinburgh" you are mixing things up a little. There is no such thing as "the Signet law Firm". However, a number of solicitors (not all) are Writers to the Signet (WS for short). This is a kind of superior grade of solicitor (or "writer" which is the older Scottish term) although its superiority is at least as much in terms of simple prestige as it is in practical value. Some law firms, whose partners are Writers to the Signet, put "WS" after the name of the firm, eg Brown and Smith WS. I suspect your David Ogilvy did his apprenticeship in one such firm and may well have become a Writer to the Signet himself. (An apprentice, by the way, is the Scottish term for what the English would cal an articled clerk.) There is perhaps one other possibility as regards a particular firm. At the moment, the firm of Dundas and Wilson are Clerks to the Signet (ie clerks to the Society of Writers to the Signet) and they are called Dundas and Wilson CS. I don't know whether it would have been the same firm in the days of your David Ogilvy, but that might have been a firm which could be called "THE Signet law firm". You can find the Signet Library at http://www.signetlibrary.co.uk/ which might be of some help. Hope I haven't just confused you further. Cheers Alan

Try this, Kind Regards Margaret > Interesting website about Poorhouses in Scotland: > > http://users.ox.ac.uk/~peter/workhouse/UnionsScotland.html

Interested in all MANSONS who lived primarily in South Leith between the years 1815 to 1896 (in particular John Manson, Adam Manson, Margaret, James). The families seem to have lived either on Sheriff Brae or Cables Wynd between about 1850 and 1896. We do know that Mary MANSON (my ggg grandmother) died in 1857 at 11 Sheriffs Brae and was buried in Rosebank Cemetery. My gg grandfather Robert Manson died at 6 Sheriffs Brae in 1896.

Relisting Details on OGILVY and Spence for new Listers. The details we have are below ===== OGILVY**** AN UP DATE we now have another son for David and Catharina named ALEXANDER OGILVY born 17th November 1802 Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland***** for David Ogilvy (Painter) of Edinburgh who married Catharina Spence on 2nd July 1801 at Tolbooth Church Parish Edinburgh--- David Lived at "Burners Close, House 312, Lawnmarket Edinburgh" (as according to the Post Office Annual Directory 1820 - 1821). David and Catharina had a son David Ogilvy who did his apprenticeship at the Signet Law Firm Edinburgh starting on 26th July 1832, graduated to Solicitor and in 1839 was appointed buy the British Government as Crown Solicitor in Australia. All we have on Catharina's father John Spence of Edinburgh and that he was a Painter too!. ****We have a copy of David/Catharina's marriage certificate and postal register from which we obtained the information as shown above***********With the help of a kind Lister who found for us four Ogilvy's. They are William Spence ! OGILVY b 28/12/1806, Catharine OGILVY b 16/12/1808, Thomas Davidson OGILVY b 1/10/1813 and Catharine OGILVY b 7/3/1811 and all the records shows David Ogilvy & Catharine Mrs Spence***** A Census shows for Thomas Davidson OGILVY "Dwelling 11 Lothian St. Census Place, Edinburgh, Scotland source FHL Film 0224005 GRO Ref Volume 685-4 EnumDis 38 Page 6 Marr Age Sex Birthplace. Birthplace Thomas Davidson OGILVY U 68 M Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Head Occ.Annuitant. We are looking for information on parents for David OGILVY (Painter) and Catharina SPENCE. Yes we are at the brick wall with them!! For My Ogilvy Web Site Click on http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ogdar/Ogilvy/ogilvy/ogilvy/ Regards, Colin Darby Australia colnet@optusnet.com.au --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.295 / Virus Database: 159 - Release Date: 1/11/2001

Hi Listers, Looking for any help you can give me on the following: GEHERAN, GEEHERN, GECHERN OR GEHERN: 1850 on. From Rosscommon/ Sligo, Ireland. Also, Midlothian: Kaimes, Liberton, Lasswade, Cockpen, Musselburgh and Edinburgh. Coalminers and Labourers. Immigrations to USA Connections to: Barney Battles Sr. (Celtic) and Jr. (Hearts). T. Geecheran of Musselburgh, Winner, New Year Mile, Powderhall, 1908 and Christmas Half Mile, and Patrick Geheran (capped for Junior Scotland). Also connections to Monaghan, Hoare, Moran, Cullen. Localities: Grassmarket, Greenside, Leith St., St James St. and St Mary’s RC Cathedral. Have information from 1891 Midlothian Census for the families of Martin & Peter GEEHERN. Anything would be welcomed. Thanks Martin

Hi, can anyone tell of of this place, I believe some of the below people could be ancestors possibly in my line. Christine Schedule No.: House Address: CITY POOR HOUSE.EDINBURGH Name & Surname Relation Condition M F Occupation Where Born Deaf etc. JANET DEWAR PAUPER MAR 60 NONE http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~agene/census/edinmisc.htm Census Information from A-Tools2000 Printed: 19/Mar/2000 John DEWAR W 57 M Pauper Gardener Jobbing Edinburgh John MORRISON M 62 M Pauper Brushmaker Ireland Margaret MORRISON U 70 F Pauper General Domestic Servant Edinburgh

Hi everybody, I'm the new Co-ordinator for the Midlothian part of the ScotlandGenWeb project. I'm currently developing new pages for the web site and would be grateful for any information you would like to include. If you have a web site for your family history research in Midlothian, please let me know so that I can include a link. If you have transcribed any original records for Midlothian and published them on your website, please let me know. If you have transcribed any records, but can't publish them on the web yourself, but would like me to include them on the Midlothian web site, please get in touch. I've put a draft of the new Midlothian home page at www.warwick.ac.uk/~cuscj/midlothian so that you can have a look and let me know what you think. Please note that only the homepage is there and none of the links will work yet. Also, please don't bookmark this page as it's not the site's permanent home. Thanks for your help. Lesley Bousbaine Midlothian Co-ordinator, ScotlandGenWeb Project Personal homepages: http://bousbaine.members.beeb.net http://www.warwick.ac.uk/~cuscj/gendata email: wayland@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

I have copied my reply to a member of the Midlothian list to the Edinburgh list as it may be of interest to someone else. More about Craighouse. It appears that it pre-dates the Asylum which was opened in 1813 with East house (completed in 1840). In 1837 the Management Board decided to build an extension (West House). In 1845 a printing press was installed and `The Morningside Mirror' was published. In 1873 Dr Thomas Clouston succeeded to the post of Physician Superintendent of the hospital and he was the person responsible for the purchase of the adjacent mansion house of Craighouse and subsequent building of Craighouse Hospital (opened by the Duke of Buccleuch in 1898). For some years prior to 1878 Craig House was the residence of John Hill Burton, historian and biographer (among others of the philosopher David Hume). If you have access to `Old and New Edinburgh' by James Grant (published 1882) you will find pp 42-4 in volume III refer to Craig House and its occupants. Illustratoins of Craig House are inlcuded. I could not find a mention of the name Finalyson. Eunice Smith Edinburgh, Scotland

Dear list, At this point I have only very sparse information regarding my family, but I wonder if someone would be so kind as to look up JOHN WILSON, shoemaker, in Edinburgh, either in the 1880 or 1900 trade directory? Thanks so much for any assistance. Patti Marino

Would be very grateful if someone with access to Trade Directories for Edinburgh could look up information on: 1. Robert HEGGIE - cabinetmaker 5 Swinton Row, Edinburgh 2. John Philp HEGGIE - cabinetmaker who worked with his Uncle Robert HEGGIE above. I think they might have gone into business together. Many thanks, Joy

http://wood.ccta.gov.uk/grosweb/grosweb.nsf/pages/leaflt11 "Records of the Scottish Census of 31 March 1901 have remained closed to the public for a period of 100 years. By 1 January 2002, the General Register Office for Scotland (GROS) will, using new imaging technology, enable our customers to view these records on a computer screen."

http://www.nationalarchives.ie/censusrtns.html "Census Returns: A census of the Irish population was taken every 10 years from 1821 until 1911. Manuscript returns for each household survive for all 32 counties for 1901 and 1911. The returns are arranged by townland or, in urban areas, by street. The returns for each townland or street consist of: (a)Forms (Forms A) filled in by the head of each household, giving the names of all people in that household on census night and their age, occupation, religion and country of birth. (b)Forms (Forms N, B1, B2) filled in by the official taking the census, summarising the returns for that townland or street. If you wish to see the returns for a particular townland or street, you must first establish: i.the District Electoral Division number in the Townland Index for 1901 and the Supplement for 1911, or the street indexes for Belfast, Cork, Dublin, Kingstown (Dun Laoghaire) and Limerick ii.the townland or street number in the list of census returns for the year and county in question. No manuscript returns survive for 1861, 1871, 1881 and 1891. There are some returns for 1821, 1831, 1841 and 1851 covering parts of Counties Antrim, Cavan, Fermanagh, Galway, King's Co.(Offaly), Londonderry (Derry), and Meath, and there is a list of heads of household named in the returns of 1851 for Dublin City (see list of 19th century census returns). There are also census search forms for each county giving the results of searches made in the returns of 1841 and 1851 for pension purposes (see separate list for each county), and some other copies made from the returns of 1821 - 51(see list of 19th century census records - miscellaneous copies and certified copies made for pension purposes). The 1901 census of Leitrim and Roscommon is available on the web through the Leitrim-Roscommon genealogy site

http://www.census.pro.gov.uk/factsheet.htm

This may be a bit late, but I think the occupation you're looking for is "tambourer" (rather than jamboiler or whatever): A person who embroidered using two frames of closely fitting hoops to hold the cloth stretched between them. Looking like a tamborine. (On the other hand, if you search for "tambourer" on Google, you also find links to sites which have absolutely nothing to do with embroidery - and I haven't the faintest idea what the word means in that context, which I do not recommend.) Alan

Hello Eunice, Mine is also a long shot, but here goes..... My great Grandmother was Agnes Lindsay and I'm wondering if there is any connection. She was born in 1862 in Edinburgh I believe. She immigrated to the US in or around 1884 and married my ggrandfather Alexander Inglis (from Edinburgh also) in 1885 in Chicago, Il. USA. Do you happen to have a connection with an Agnes Lindsay?? Thanks so much, Robin Honel "Mrs E. Smith" wrote: > hullo Carol, > > This is a long shot for me but it is always worth asking. I am trying > to trace a Mary Lindsay or Barnet who was the grandmother of Frank > Miller. Frank MIller was living in Annan at the turn of the last > century. > > If you should know of any connections with your line and the names of > Barnet or Miller I should be grateful for any information. > > Eunice Smith > Edinburgh, Scotland