In the 1960s, The TOR in Corstorphine Road was a private maternity hospital. Doreen

Hi Listers: I hope one of you can help me. In the Register of Edinburgh Apprentices I found the following entry: "Broun, Andrew, son to Andrew B., in Carmeban, with James Broune, chirurgian 20 June 1632" Andrew Broun, chirurgean, born 1605 in Edinburgh and son of James Broun, chirurgean was my ninth great grandfather. The 1632 date is too late for my Andrew to be starting an apprenticeship (I think he became a burgess in 1625, although that date seems early.), but the master is perhaps my tenth great grandfather, James Broun chirurgean. Knowing where Carmeban is might help me resolve this, but I can't find Carmeban in any of my references or by an Internet search. Can anyone help? Richard Robertson

Hi Everyone, Angela asked about "The Torr" or "Torr House" in the Morningside area of Edinburgh. According to my Buildings of Scotland book on Edinburgh there was a house called The Tor at 30 Corstorphine Road, which in 1984 was a Baptist Eventide Home. It was built in 1866 - gabled Jacobean with a lodge to match, the porch was added and the interior re-cast in 1896. This isn't exactly near Morningside but may be the place. Hope this helps, Linda Hansen Researching:- BURN, Dalkeith & Cockenzie, MLN 1700+ BURN, Edinburgh 1750+ BURN, Otago, New Zealand 1865+ Jane/Jean CURRIE, born c.1816 MLN DICKSON, Lanark & Edinburgh 1770+ GILBERT, Edinburgh 1750+ LAING, Newton, MLN 1750+ PATERSON, Dalkieth 1700+

I realise this is a long shot, but I wondered if anyone is familiar with a large house called either "The Torr"or "Torr House" in the Morningside area of Edinburgh? My Great Grandmother worked there for a family called PATON at the beginning of the last century, so I'm interested to find out more about it. -- Best Wishes Angela<boon.bluecats@ntlworld.com> Chase Bridge Class of '75 http://www.chasebridge75.co.uk/ Pettistree Homepage http://www.pettistree.suffolk.gov.uk/

Anyone know if there's an online database of Edinburgh newspapers? I am trying to locate any reference to my grgrgrandfather's death in 1912, when he was hit by a train. I have the exact location in Newtongrange. Thank you for any advice, Elaine California

The Scottish Land Court is part of the Scottish Executive Justice Department Courts, and was established in 1911. The court building is located at 1 Grosvenor Cres. Edinburgh. -- Ian Russell Ottawa, CAN J A Olsen wrote: > > hello Ian > > not sure you have the right name for this place. if you havent had any > replies that might be why??? > > we have a Sheriff Court, a High Court and various registries. Maybe a > District Court, Im not sure. > > if you can give the list more info we might recognise the place. > > Judy > > ---------- > >From: Ian Russell <russ0055@algonquincollege.com> > >To: SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: [EDB] Scottish Land Court > >Date: Sun, Oct 14, 2001, 6:38 pm > > > > > > > Hello everyone; > > > > Is there SKS in Edinburgh who would be able to > > email a photo of the Scottish Land Court building, > > and its emblem if it has one, to me? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > -- > > Ian Russell > > Ottawa, CAN > >

I can find only two mentions of Margaret LANTWHELLER in the FHC and in Origins. It's as though the family appeared from nowhere, had Margaret in Glasgow in 1800, saw her married to Archibald McPhail in Edinburgh in 1819, and then disappeared. At the time of Margaret's marriage in 1819, her father, Henry, was a tailor in Edinburgh. Has anyone seen the name, or even anything similar? Eileen Herkes, NY

Hi all Ref. Rena's post regarding "professions to think about" I just wonder if the entry was a little bit of English ironic humour? It struck a nerve with me as I dimly recollect (about 100 yrs.ago, as an 'angry young man') writing my census entry as "Bullfighter and 'All in' Wrestler"...On the basis that, if the census enumerator had a suspicion that my entry was an illegal fight against authority (which it was), the wrestler bit would forstall any knocks on my door. Which it did! "Snake and Alligator Charmer" ...Good one! Keith Baigrie ---------- >From: SCT-EDINBURGH-D-request@rootsweb.com >To: SCT-EDINBURGH-D@rootsweb.com >Subject: SCT-EDINBURGH-D Digest V01 #334 >Date: Thu, Nov 15, 2001, 2:03 pm > > Content-Type: text/plain > > SCT-EDINBURGH-D Digest Volume 01 : Issue 334 > > Today's Topics: > #1 [EDB] profession to think about [Remac56585@aol.com] > #2 [EDB] Re: Suggestions for books to [PresbyRevDr@aol.com] > #3 Re: [EDB] Re: Suggestions for book ["Mrs E. Smith" <evnike@supanet.com] > #4 [EDB] Berwick on Tweed ["J A Olsen" <Copywriter@tesco.net>] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from SCT-EDINBURGH-D, send a message to > > SCT-EDINBURGH-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > > > ______________________________ > X-Message: #1 > Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 20:37:32 EST > From: Remac56585@aol.com > To: SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <bc.1cdd41be.2924765c@aol.com> > Subject: [EDB] profession to think about > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Hi all! > > This little piece of information has nothing to do with Edinburgh at all, but > I thought that you might like to giggle with me. > > While searching for a family in London, 1891, I came across a household that > had a visitor, a young girl of 22 years whose profession was put as "SNAKE > AND ALLIGATOR CHARMER". This is the most unusual profession I have come > across. > > Regards > Rena McKenzie > > Researching:- > Clarks from the Canongate, associated names Fernie, Souter, Cathie, Keith, > McCulloch, Watters and Kyle. > > ______________________________ > X-Message: #2 > Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 00:03:59 EST > From: PresbyRevDr@aol.com > To: SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <a9.1e591db5.2924a6bf@aol.com> > Subject: [EDB] Re: Suggestions for books to read > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Friends: > > I'm trying to gain a social/economic/religious sense of Edinburgh > particularly from 1812-1840. I have read T.C.Smout's *A Century of the > Scottish People* and *A History of the Scottish People.* I've also found *The > Statistical Account (1845)* of Edinburgh. All of these are good. > Anything you would recommend to read for this time period? > > Thanks for the help! > Malcolm McQueen > San Antonio, Texas > > ______________________________ > X-Message: #3 > Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 10:50:32 -0000 > From: "Mrs E. Smith" <evnike@supanet.com> > To: SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <007a01c16dc8$324edb00$50926fd4@brlnet> > Subject: Re: [EDB] Re: Suggestions for books to read > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > James Grant: `Old and New Edinburgh' (1882) - 3 volumes. > > Also for an earlier period (but still relevant):- > Henry Grey Graham: `Social Life of Edinburgh in the Eighteenth > Century) (1899) - 2 volumes. He also wrote `Scottish Men of Letters > in the Eighteenth Century) (1901) - 1 volume - not likley to be so > relevant for your interest. > > Each of the above books may be quite difficult to find but try > specialist > libraries. > > > More recently Malcolm Cant has written a series of books about `The > Villages of Edinburgh'. Charles J. Smith (NO relation) has also > written on Historic Edinburgh. > > > Eunice Smith > Edinburgh, Scotland > > ______________________________ > X-Message: #4 > Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 11:40:23 +0000 > From: "J A Olsen" <Copywriter@tesco.net> > To: SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > Message-Id: <E164L1n-0004AV-00@aisle.tesco.net> > Subject: [EDB] Berwick on Tweed > Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > Julie > > Because your address is AOL I can't tell whether you are in the UK or > elsewhere. > > If you have had no answers to your request the problem is probably a) > because access to the GRO is not easy, even for those who live in Edinburgh. > Places are limited and cost £17 per day, so people tend to concentrate on > their own research. > > Also b) I am pretty sure Berwick on Tweed (not to be confused with North > Berwick of course ) was in England at the time. My 1874 almanac lists 3 > church of Scotland ministers for Berwick, but they are listed under the > North of England. > > A copy of the English marriage certificate will only give you the names of > the fathers. Your best bet (and cheaper) would be to find where the Catholic > chapel records are kept and get a photocopy of the entry. > > Judy > > > > > ---------- >>From: Kira11897@aol.com >>To: SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com >>Subject: [EDB] looking for a kind soul to check info for me >>Date: Sat, Oct 6, 2001, 10:43 pm >> > >> Hi, >> >> Is there anyone who has access to Edinburgh register house that could check >> info for me? >> >> I'm looking for a marriage between john Joseph Leheny and Mary Brown, married >> in the Catholic chapel in Berwick upon Tweed on 19th of May 1871. I need to >> know who their parents were. >> I'm assuming that Berwick upon tweed was part of Scotland at this point but >> if it wasn't could someone please tell me so that I can write to the proper >> list. >> >> thank you, >> >> Julie >> >> >> ==== SCT-EDINBURGH Mailing List ==== >> Need mail list help? Contact Carol Hepburn at chepburn@uswest.net >> >> >

Julie Because your address is AOL I can't tell whether you are in the UK or elsewhere. If you have had no answers to your request the problem is probably a) because access to the GRO is not easy, even for those who live in Edinburgh. Places are limited and cost £17 per day, so people tend to concentrate on their own research. Also b) I am pretty sure Berwick on Tweed (not to be confused with North Berwick of course ) was in England at the time. My 1874 almanac lists 3 church of Scotland ministers for Berwick, but they are listed under the North of England. A copy of the English marriage certificate will only give you the names of the fathers. Your best bet (and cheaper) would be to find where the Catholic chapel records are kept and get a photocopy of the entry. Judy ---------- >From: Kira11897@aol.com >To: SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [EDB] looking for a kind soul to check info for me >Date: Sat, Oct 6, 2001, 10:43 pm > > Hi, > > Is there anyone who has access to Edinburgh register house that could check > info for me? > > I'm looking for a marriage between john Joseph Leheny and Mary Brown, married > in the Catholic chapel in Berwick upon Tweed on 19th of May 1871. I need to > know who their parents were. > I'm assuming that Berwick upon tweed was part of Scotland at this point but > if it wasn't could someone please tell me so that I can write to the proper > list. > > thank you, > > Julie > > > ==== SCT-EDINBURGH Mailing List ==== > Need mail list help? Contact Carol Hepburn at chepburn@uswest.net > >

James Grant: `Old and New Edinburgh' (1882) - 3 volumes. Also for an earlier period (but still relevant):- Henry Grey Graham: `Social Life of Edinburgh in the Eighteenth Century) (1899) - 2 volumes. He also wrote `Scottish Men of Letters in the Eighteenth Century) (1901) - 1 volume - not likley to be so relevant for your interest. Each of the above books may be quite difficult to find but try specialist libraries. More recently Malcolm Cant has written a series of books about `The Villages of Edinburgh'. Charles J. Smith (NO relation) has also written on Historic Edinburgh. Eunice Smith Edinburgh, Scotland

Friends: I'm trying to gain a social/economic/religious sense of Edinburgh particularly from 1812-1840. I have read T.C.Smout's *A Century of the Scottish People* and *A History of the Scottish People.* I've also found *The Statistical Account (1845)* of Edinburgh. All of these are good. Anything you would recommend to read for this time period? Thanks for the help! Malcolm McQueen San Antonio, Texas

Hi all! This little piece of information has nothing to do with Edinburgh at all, but I thought that you might like to giggle with me. While searching for a family in London, 1891, I came across a household that had a visitor, a young girl of 22 years whose profession was put as "SNAKE AND ALLIGATOR CHARMER". This is the most unusual profession I have come across. Regards Rena McKenzie Researching:- Clarks from the Canongate, associated names Fernie, Souter, Cathie, Keith, McCulloch, Watters and Kyle.

I am hoping SKS will be able to help. I am looking for any info on Peter McPhilips who married Catherine McCall in Edinburgh in 1832. He is given as deceased on son Mathew's marriage in 1859 but I have not found his death. I would appreciate any info on any other McPhilips as poss. relations. Pretty sure he came from Ireland but without more info cannot start searching there. thanks Carol

Edinburgh St.Cuthberts. All CALIDONIAN COTTAGES. 3. HUNTER . John head, mar , 31, railway servant, born Orkney. " Jane, wife , mar , 28, " " Margaret, dau , 5 , " 4 McKenzie, George ,head,mar 37, brewers maltman. caithness " , Christena, wife,mar 36, cant make out place of birth. " Rebacca , dau , 9 , scolar , Edin. " Alexander , son , 7 , scolar Edin " George , son , 4 , Edin cannongate. 5. PROUDFOOT, Allison head, widow , 51, charwoman ,Ayreshire Dunoon. " John , son ,unmar ,20 , Vanman , Edin St.Cuthberts. " Andrew , son , unmar, 19 , waterproof garment maker, Edin St.Cuthberts. 6. To me the name looks like CRAILL but scots origins has it as CRAIK. CRAIK. George ,head , mar , 50 , timekeeper , Lanarkshire . " Catherine , wife , mar , 35 , Edin . " William , son , 14 , grocers apprentise , Edin St Cuthberts. " George , son ,13 , bakers apprentise , St.Giles. " Catherine , dau , 9 , scolar , cannongate. " Robert , son , 7 , scolar , St.Cuthberts. " Agnes , dau , 5 , " " James , son , 3 , " " Margaret , dau , 11m " 7. WALLACE , James , head mar , 54 , Engine fitter , Fifeshire Dysert " Heneratie , wife , 53 , , Lanarkshire Biggar. " Jane , dau , 3 , , Edin St.Cuthberts

thanks for answering the question Angi. Some of the early post office directories are I think Edinburgh only, and I suspect would not include Newhaven. But from what you say the later ones would, at least the ones called 'Edinburgh and Leith'. Judy ---------- >From: "Angi Lamb" <Angi.Lamb@ed.ac.uk> snip > > All the ones I've looked at include Leith and Newhaven. Some at least have > listing for the county as well. I'm not sure about the pre-1800 ones. > > Regards > Angi Lamb > -- > Edinburgh > Angi.Lamb@ed.ac.uk >

From: "J A Olsen" | Some of the Edinburgh directories also include Leith, and Newhaven might be | there too, but I couldn't say for sure. All the ones I've looked at include Leith and Newhaven. Some at least have listing for the county as well. I'm not sure about the pre-1800 ones. Regards Angi Lamb -- Edinburgh Angi.Lamb@ed.ac.uk researching HORN(E), CARRUTHERS, HISLOP, MCGREGOR, CROLL, RUPPERTI, HETHERINGTON, GLOVER, CARMICHAEL or CURRIE, STODDART, MERCER, BISSET, DICKSON, DICK, (AITKEN, WRIGHT), YOUNG in Midlothian

Edinburgh Post Offices directories are available on fiche from The Scottish Genealogy Society in Edinburgh. http://www.scotsgenealogy.com/ Some of the Edinburgh directories also include Leith, and Newhaven might be there too, but I couldn't say for sure. Perhaps someone else will know. happy hunting Judy ---------- >From: "Mags" <mags@edin58.freeserve.co.uk> >To: SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [EDB] Edinburgh Trade Directory lookup request (1860-1900) >Date: Mon, Nov 12, 2001, 9:40 pm > > Hello list, > > If anyone has access to Edinburgh Trade Directories from around 1860 - 1900, > I would love a lookup of The Old Ship Inn at Newhaven. My g-g-grandfather, > John Darney, was the licensee there for around 13 years, but I don't know > exactly when, although I do know his daughter Margaret died there in 1884 > aged 14. I would like an address if possible and any other details that > exist. > > Many thanks > Mags > >

I hope you will not mind me posting this to your list. It concerns Sutherland, Scotland and as a subscriber to your list for a long time I feel sure there will be some who will be as shocked as we are to read what is being done with original records. We need your help to save the original records of Sutherland, Scotland. A move to take historical records relating to parishes across Sutherland, Scotland, away from the recognised area repository in Brora and store them in Thurso, Caithness, instead, is being opposed by Clyne Heritage Society. The records, listing births deaths and marriages dating back to 1855, are being moved because of the closure this weekend of the former Brora registrar’s office in Gower Lane where they have been stored in five safes for years. The family history research service offered by former part-time registrar Stuart Maclean in the Gower Lane office has now been moved to a room in the Brora Library, shared with the East Sutherland Village Advisory Service, and his hours have been reduced. Clyne Heritage Society is bitterly opposed to the new arrangements and in particular the removal of the original records outwith the area to which they apply, although the information they contain has been made available in Brora on microfiche. They are critical of the cramped library accommodation given to Mr. Maclean and claim it is “farcical” that the microfiche copies of the records which he now needs have been placed not in the library but in the nearby Service Point. Heritage Society vice-chairman Willie Gunn says the Highland Council has missed a golden opportunity to maintain and extend its family history research service in response to a growing demand both at home and abroad. “Folk who are interested in researching their ancestors want every scrap of detail they can lay their hands on, and there is nothing like seeing and touching the original page one’s ancestors have actually signed. If the registers are removed, then the bottom line is that family history research for Caithness and Sutherland will be conducted from Thurso and an opportunity to attract visitors to Brora has been lost.” The heritage society has now enlisted the support of constituency MSP Jamie Stone and MP Lord Thurso, and are also lobbying local councillors. They are calling for the removal of the registers to be deferred pending discussion by Sutherland County Committee, in the light of news released this week of changes to bring the registration system into the 21st century – including the development of family history centres by local authorities. (Northern Times, 9th November 2001) I run an internet mailing list which has over 200 members from all around the world. Our joint interest is our ancestors in Sutherland. Many of our members have already visited the county and many more plan future visits. Now they will have to travel to Caithness to see the original documents relating to their families! This is a thoroughly bad decision and one which I fear Sutherland will come to regret. Come on people of Sutherland and all those who have interest in the county, stand up and create such a fuss that the powers who made this stupid decision are left with no choice but to revert it. Through my work with fellow enthusiasts we recently formed our new group, Preserving Our Sutherland Heritage. All around the world, at this very moment, people are organising fund raising events to save the old graveyards of Sutherland from ruin. Currently we are working closely with Clyne Heritage Society and plan to donate a large sum to aid their work at Clyne Kirkton. How do I tell our members, who are working so hard for this, that Sutherland cares so little for heritage that they have allowed the original records to be hidden away in Thurso? If you feel like we do then please write to any or all of the following people and demand that these records stay where they belong – in SUTHERLAND. Please do it NOW as this decision must be reversed. Write to: The Editor, Northern Times, Golspie, Sutherland northern.times@btinternet.com <mailto:northern.times@btinternet.com> Francis Keith, Convener, Sutherland County Committee, e-mail: francis.keith.cllr@highland.gov.uk <mailto:francis.keith.cllr@highland.gov.uk> Rita Finlayson, Highland Councillor, Kildonan, Loth & Clyne, e-mail: rita.finlayson.cllr@highland.gov.uk <mailto:rita.finlayson.cllr@highland.gov.uk> Jamie Stone, Member of Scottish Parliament jamie.stone.msp@scottish.parliament.uk <mailto:jamie.stone.msp@scottish.parliament.uk> Please also send a copy to myself – I plan on finding others who can help – the more people who write the better. Thanks for taking the time to read this. Christine Stokes Chairperson Preserving Our Sutherland Heritage www.p-o-s-h.co.uk <http://www.p-o-s-h.co.uk/> email me on chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk <mailto:chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk> --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. 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Hello list, If anyone has access to Edinburgh Trade Directories from around 1860 - 1900, I would love a lookup of The Old Ship Inn at Newhaven. My g-g-grandfather, John Darney, was the licensee there for around 13 years, but I don't know exactly when, although I do know his daughter Margaret died there in 1884 aged 14. I would like an address if possible and any other details that exist. Many thanks Mags

Andrew, REF: " My relation's address was 1, Adelphi Place, Leith Links (from where his brother wrote the invitations to his funeral in 1846 at St Cuthbert's-to about 150 people including an Earl and a Lord!). It is also written in family correspondence as Leith Links South. ... Perhaps there used to be another Adelphi Place. I am now certain the George Forman, Wine Merchant, Adelphi Place." Don't know if it is of any help but in the mid-19th century there was an Adelphi Theatre in Leith Walk. According to James Grant's `Old and New Edinburgh' (1882) it would appear that the Theatre Royal and The Adelphi were leased by a Mr Murray for the period 1830-51. Mr Murray was a brother of Mrs Henry Siddons and they were the grandchildren of John Murray of Broughton who was Secretary to Prince Charles Edward. The said John Murray turned King's evidence against Lord Lovat when he was taken prisoner after Culloden. Eunice Smith Edinburgh, Scotland