List Members, I have several references to Old Pentland House and Old Pentland in Lasswade among my "artifacts". Does anyone know whether it still stands? My grandmother and her oldest brother were born there, and I have a photo of my gr gr grandfather seated in front of it. TIA, Pam

unfortunately there is no index to the 1871 index for Edinburgh. The only way to find people is if you have an address, which can sometimes be found if your ancestor appears in a trade directory, or of course from a BMD certificate. Judy ---------- >From: JOAN272741@aol.com >To: SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [EDB] BLAIKIE/THEVENEAU >Date: Mon, Dec 3, 2001, 3:50 pm > > Jean BLAIKIE and Theophile Tancrede THEVENEAU were parents of > Isadore Emilien THEVENEAU. > I cannot find the family on the 1881 census. Can SKS look on the 1872 census > for me? > I have come to an absolute dead end so I would be eternally grateful for a > clue > > Joan Carter > >

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Jean BLAIKIE and Theophile Tancrede THEVENEAU were parents of Isadore Emilien THEVENEAU. I cannot find the family on the 1881 census. Can SKS look on the 1872 census for me? I have come to an absolute dead end so I would be eternally grateful for a clue Joan Carter

Hello Kay Did you get the info & suggestions I sent you about Hill Burton? Some of his correspondence is in the National Library of Scotland. There seems to have been a major acquisition in the late 80s. I suggest you email the manuscripts division mss@nls.uk to ask if any of the papers refer to his personal affairs, such as the management of his house. It seems Craig House became part of the Royal Edinburgh Hospital and is now destined to be a new campus for Napier University. There is a short description on the City of Edinburgh rangers website. I don't know which parish it would have been in in 1871, Morningside seems the obvious one but I suppose Colinton is another possibility. In the list of parishes I have for 1874, Morningside is listed under Edinburgh but Colinton is not, since it was still a separate village. Judy Olsen ---------- >From: "Kay Podmore" <kidda@primus.com.au> >To: SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [EDB] Help with correct parish - please! >Date: Sun, Dec 2, 2001, 12:34 am > > Hi List, > > I am new to the list and was wondering if someone could help me with my > research. My grgrgrandfather, Robert Finlayson, was a gardener and in 1874 > (the year of his son, Andrew's marriage) he was living in Craig House, near > Edinburgh. > > Now I have found a little about the House (not much) but I do know that at > that time, the House was owned by John Hill Burton, the Scottish Historian. > > I went to my (reasonably) local LDS site and tried to order the 1871 census > records for this but I don't know the parish - I thought it was Morningside, > but they only have the census records for 1851 and it may be too early for > my chap. > > Is anyone able to help with some information? > > Cheers > Kay Podmore > >

Hi List, I am new to the list and was wondering if someone could help me with my research. My grgrgrandfather, Robert Finlayson, was a gardener and in 1874 (the year of his son, Andrew's marriage) he was living in Craig House, near Edinburgh. Now I have found a little about the House (not much) but I do know that at that time, the House was owned by John Hill Burton, the Scottish Historian. I went to my (reasonably) local LDS site and tried to order the 1871 census records for this but I don't know the parish - I thought it was Morningside, but they only have the census records for 1851 and it may be too early for my chap. Is anyone able to help with some information? Cheers Kay Podmore

Hello All, I must point out first that I've unsubscribed to be on the safe side, because I think I'm the one who seems to have passed on the virus. Without opening any attachments either. I have updated my Norton anti virus 3 days in a row and I'm confident all is well . I'll probably continue to run the Live Update daily from now on for quite a while ! I am sorry if I've caused problems. Best wishes to you all, Genny.

unsubscribe Whilst my computer is being mended See you soon. Denise Kent, UK Researching:- BATHGATE - Cheshire, Scotland and Essex BUTLAND - Tenby, Pembrokeshire CLARKE - Cheshire and Northants FABER - London, Middlesex and Essex JONES - Haverfordwest, Pembrokeshire MORRISSEY - Templemore, Ireland PURCELL - Dublin, Ireland O'BRIEN - Dublin, Ireland ROBINSON - Cork, Ireland THELWELL - Cheshire TOWN - Sussex

Hello unknown person. You have sent me an email with an attachment. In the interests of caution and a virus free pc device would you object if I ask you about the nature of the attachment. I have had several suspicious attachments lately and with all the comment on the web about viruses going around I delete anything that come to me unidentified. Regards Greg in Raumati New Zealand ----- Original Message ----- From: egdc To: kayandgregb@paradise.net.nz Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 1:02 AM Subject: Re: [EDB] What to do next: Thanks to all.

List - If you get a file from anyone and you didn't request it, check the return addy - if it is preceeded by an 'underscore', a small line in front of the address, it is Extremely suspect - this prevents you from actually asking the person if they sent you the file. Your query will be returned as 'undeliverable'. If your mail software underlines eMail addresses, this will be masked. Uncover it by hitting Reply and looking at the address generated, but I wouldn't even grace the item with having it this long in my inbox. Delete it permanently, meaning check your Trash file, or any holding file, and delete it from there also. If someone has really sent you a legitimate file in this manner, they will re-contact you and should apologize for sending a file without notifying you. Have also seen this problem blossoming in the past 4 days on other Lists. Deleted about 5 of these so far. They are not from Rootsweb, but from the personal mailboxes of Listers who have opened the files and become unwitting carriers. Meg / Oklahoma, USA

Richard, I got the same message - suggest it's a virus although Hotmail showed 'no virus found' Regards Duncan ----- Original Message ----- From: "richrob4" <richrob4@home.com> To: <SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 1:27 PM Subject: [EDB] Where is Carmeban? > Doreen Baxter: > I received an e-mail from you with no text in the body. There were two > attachments. Being concerned about a possible virus in the attachments I > saved them to a floppy and scanned it for viruses and then tried to open > them. The text attachment contained 0 bytes and was devoid of content. The > other file disappeared when I tried to open it. > Would you please re-post the message? Preferably without attachments. > > Richard Robertson > >

Sorry for the double up on this posting people, I made a mistake with the first one. Could SKS give help with advice on locating information regards Peter FAIRBAIRN, parents names etc. Can the information be gleaned from Naval or Army records ? Or from medical profession records? His death certificate in Australia lists names of parents unknown. March 13 1903 DEATH OF DR. FAIRBAIRN Deceased was born in Edinburgh 73 years ago, and took his diploma in 1856. He than served in the navy and subsequently in the army as surgeon, a post which he occupied on the man-of-war "Indus" in the West Indies in 1870. About 30 years ago he voyaged to Australia as a Doctor on a sailing vessel. Peter Fairbairn is shown in the Navy List as Assistant Surgeon (acting) as from 7 January 1857. He was appointed to the Indus on 17 January, presumably while she was in Bermuda. He is out of the List by 1861. Possible parents for Dr Peter Fairbairn IGI. ; Peter Fairbairn, Christened,24 June 1834, Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh,Midlothian, Scotland.Father/ Peter, Mother/ Mary Ann Forrest. Batch No Dates Source Call No Type Print-out Type C119905 1833 1040214 Film 6901046 Film Kind regards, Daryl Crabtree Gladstone, C. Qld. Australia

Doreen Baxter: I received an e-mail from you with no text in the body. There were two attachments. Being concerned about a possible virus in the attachments I saved them to a floppy and scanned it for viruses and then tried to open them. The text attachment contained 0 bytes and was devoid of content. The other file disappeared when I tried to open it. Would you please re-post the message? Preferably without attachments. Richard Robertson

Hullo Mary, REF: "I am researching the names O'Neill and Stephenson. The family and relatives lived in Millom during the 19th century. Does anyone recognise these names?" I also am interested in Stephenson in Cumberland and shall repeat messages sent earlier to the list in case they link with your own interests. In addition I am searching for more information about an elusive Dr John Stevenson, a physician of Edinburgh. Since I cannot rule out a Cumberland connection I shall also include the notes about him. Please see the end of this message for genealogical notes. By the way - could we have some advice (re the Digest) as to the advisability of changing a topic line from one topic to a more specific one e.g. as here from " new interests" to "Stephenson" - is this going to create a real problem for people to follow a thread? Eunice Smith Edinburgh, Scotland ************************************* REF: John Stephenson father-in law of W.R. Duncan. My interest is W.R. Duncan. Elizabeth H. Stephenson (daughter of Appleton Stephenson of Whitby) married William Robert Duncan (b. 2 May 1820; d. 11 Feb 1898). 1851 census (Matterdale, Parsons House) William Robert Duncan, head, 30, Perpetual Curate Elizabeth, wife 19, born Whitby Thomas Appleton, 1, born Whitby Appleton Stephenson, father-in-law, 44, solicitor, born Stokesley Ann Stephenson, mother-in-law Roseanne Clifton, sister-in-law, 12 1861 census (W.R. Duncan not recorded in Matterdale) !881 Census (20 Onslow Road, Liverpool Lancashire: Census Place: West Derby, Lancashire, England (Source: FHL Film 1341889 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3713 Folio 20 Page 38). William R. DUNCAN Married, Age 60, birthplace - Scotland Rel: Head; Occ: Curate Of Liverpool Elizabeth H. DUNCAN Married; Age 49; birthplace - York Rel: Wife; Occ: Nil Rosina C. STEPHENSON unmarried; age 41; birhtplace - York Rel: Visitor; Occ: Nil Harriet MILLINGTON Unmarried; Age 22; Birthplace - Shropshire Rel: Servt; Occ: Dom Servt In Gore's Street Directory of Liverpool (1890) William Robert Duncan is listed as a curate at St Peter's Church, Church Street, Liverpool. This Church of England church was the Parish church of Liverpool at this date. ********************************************************************** **** REF: John Stevenson John Stevenson (a physician and at that time probably a resident of Ayr) married Marion Rodger (born 23 October 1699, Galston, Ayr - daughter of Andrew Rogers) on 20th February 1724. They had the following children:- Alexander (b. 24 September, 1727, Ayr) - became a physician (Glasgow)? Rodger (b. 9 November 1729, Edinburgh) - became a physician (Edinburgh)? Juliana (b. 24 May, 1731, Galston). There may have been at least one other son James. Marion may have returned to her family home for the births and that is why some of the children were born in Ayrshire. The place of birth of their son Rodger (1729) being Edinburgh implies that by 1729 they may have been resident in Edinburgh. It is known that John Stevenson was in Edinburgh in 1738 and was concerned with the Infirmary. . John Stevenson had some contact with Chevalier Ramsay, the tutor of Bonnie Prince Charlie (probably in the early 1720s) but in 1745 sat with a musket in the High Street of Edinburgh in order to defend Edinburgh Castle against the self-same gentleman! He went "on a professional visit to Dumfries" in 1740 - for what reason? ************************* END of Message

Hi: I am trying to find 1861 census information for Andrew Grieve B. 1809 and his wife Elizabeth Innes B. 1811 Edinburgh. Thanks, Elinor

Hello Richard, I am doing ancestry research in Scotland and would like to know the website for the Register of Edinburgh Apprentices. Would you be able to help me with this one? Thank you, Janet Holburn Hi Janet! The Register is available as four volumes covering 1583 - 1800, published by the Scottish Record Society. They also published the Roll of Burgesses and Guild-Brethren, Register of Marriages, etc, etc. Some of them are available at local libraries. The helpful folks at the Library of Congress printed a list for me of the holdings in local libraries in my geographic area. For example, Allen County Public Library (Anderson, Indiana) has a surprising collection. They are also available through your local LDS Family History Center on Microfilm. Richard Robertson

Researching the below *****David OGILVY (Painter) of Edinburgh who married Catharina SPENCE on 2nd July 1801 at Tolbooth Church Parish Edinburgh *****Alexander OGILVY born 17th November 1802 Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland, married 1835 to Isabella WILLIAMSON *****David OGILVY born 26 Jun 1804 Edinburgh Parish Edinburgh Midlothian Scotland married 9 Sep 1841 Australia to Elizabeth Aitchison WILLIAMSON *****William Spence OGILVY born 28/12/1806, Edinburgh Parish Edinburgh Midlothian Scotland *****John Spence OGILVY born 1806 Edinburgh Midlothian Scotland *****Catharine OGILVY born 16/12/1808, Edinburgh Parish Edinburgh Midlothian Scotland *****Thomas Davidson OGILVY born 1/10/1813 Edinburgh Midlothian Scotland *****Catharine OGILVY born 7/3/1811 Edinburgh Parish Edinburgh Midlothian Scotland, married 16/07/1850 to John WOOD-BEILBY *****Isobella BATHGATE born 1770, married 11 Sep 1805 to James WILLIAMSON at Old Church Parish Canongate, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland (Bathgate's family owned "Bathgate'sCandlemakers Co." of Falkirk and Edinburgh) *****James Williamson OGILVY married 1852 to Elizabeth Charlotte HOWE, then married 1892 to Alice Olive Nelson, then married 1909 to Jean Emily CARMICHAEL Mentioned in family notes a William OGILVY came out with brother David to Australia in 1839 ****************************************** Any Scottish Edinburgh family information, especially on David and Catharina would be appreciated For My Ogilvy Web Site Click on http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ogdar/Ogilvy/ogilvy/ogilvy/ Regards, Colin Darby Australia colnet@optusnet.com.au --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.298 / Virus Database: 161 - Release Date: 13/11/01

Hi listers, I have just joined your list and am hoping for some help. Dr Peter FAIRBAIRN was a good friend of my g Grandfather Abraham Crabtree. Kind regards, Daryl Gladstone C. Qld. Australia Dr. Fairbairn This story of Dr. Fairbairn started in the Summer of 1900 when a man carrying his swag called at Lemon Springs station and asked for a job as a gardener. Mr Broughton, owner of the station decided to employ him. During his stay at Lemon Springs, Fairbairn got yarning to Mr Abe Crabtree who was doing carpentry work for the Broughtons. Mr Crabtree told the gardener of his son's deformed feet, he showed a keen interest in what he said and expressed a desire to see the boy. After he had seen the boy he claimed he could "fix" them. Mr Crabtree wanted to know more of this man's qualifications and after the Dr. produced his papers, it was agreed that the operation could take place. The Dr. carried out the operation, cared for his patient for some time and it was a complete success. The district people soon heard the news that a doctor was in the area and a public meeting was called on July 20, 1901 in the Minimay Hall. Local ........END THE WEST WIMMERA MAIL Friday March 13 1903 DEATH OF DR. FAIRBAIRN The Booroopki district has lost by death a very old resident in Peter Fairbairn, M.D. L.R.C.S. His end was painfully sudden. At about midnight on Friday last he rose from his bed and with lighted candle in hand went to the room of Mrs. Smith, sister-in-law of Mr. A Crabtree, at whose place he resided. He complained of pain in the region of the heart and asked for some stimulant. This was given him, and he lay down and shortly afterwards expired. Information was at once sent to constable Sargeant, of Goroke, and a magisterial enquiry was on Saturday conducted by Thos. Jelbart, J.P. who returned a verdict of death from natural causes. Deceased was born in Edinburgh 73 years ago, and took his diploma in 1856. He than served in the navy and subsequently in the army as surgeon, a post which he occupied on the man-of-war "Indus" in the West Indies in 1870. About 30 years ago he voyaged to Australia as a Doctor on a sailing vessel. For a time he was employed on Mount Elgin Station, near Nhill, and afterwards practised his profession at Lochiel, and subsequently at lawloit, Goroke and Apsley, finally settling at Booroopki 11 years ago, where the residents subsidised him. He was an excellent surgeon, and especially skilled in children's ailments. To those unable to pay for medical assistance he was ever ready to make allowance, and but for a failing which has brought about the downfall of so many gifted men would have become eminent in his profession. The death will prove a great loss to his people of Booroopki, who will now be compelled to travel long distances for medical aid. Deceased's remai! ns were interred in the Minimay cemetery on Saturday last, the funeral arrangements being in the hands or Mr.T Jelbart........END NOTE> Indus was a 2nd Rate 80-gun ship of the line, built in Portsmouth Dockyard, and launched on 16 March 1839. Unusually she was built of teak instead of oak. During the early years of the 1840s she served in the Mediterranean before returning to Devonport England where she was out of commission until November 1856 when she became Vice Admiral Sir Huston Stewart`s flagship on the North American and West Indies station. She returned to Devonport at the end of 1860 as guardship of the Reserve Fleet until she was sold in 1898. Peter Fairbairn is shown in the Navy List as Assistant Surgeon (acting) as from 7 January 1857. He was appointed to the Indus on 17 January, presumably while she was in Bermuda. He is out of the List by 1861. THE HORSHAM TIMES FRIDAY MARCH 13 1903 OBITUARY Our Minimay correspondent writes :- It is with regret that I have to report the death of a well known Identity here, Dr. Fairbairn. For the last 20 years he has resided in the district and during that time I daresay he has visited nearly every house around and has often proved invaluable in saving life and alleviating pain. His loss will be greatly felt. On Friday night last the deceased gentleman retired in his usual good health. About 1 o'clock in the morning he came out of his room complaining of feeling sick and asked for a drink. Mr. Crabtree, of Booroopki, who he was boarding with, succeeded in getting him back to bed, but when there he died in about two minutes. An Enquiry was held on Sunday and I believe the verdict was that death was due to heart failure, The deceased gentleman was 73 years of age. The residents purpose erecting a memorial stone to mark his last resting place. Possible parents for Dr Peter Fairbairn IGI. ; Peter Fairbairn, Christened,24 June 1834, Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh,Midlothian, Scotland.Father/ Peter, Mother/ Mary Ann Forrest. Batch No Dates Source Call No Type Print-out Type C119905 1833 1040214 Film 6901046 Film

Hi Judy! The source material is "The Register of Edinburgh Apprentices 1583-1666" by the Scottish Record Society, published in 1906. Carmeban is not referenced in the "Topographical Dictionary of Scotland," nor can I find it in the "Statistical Accounts of Scotland," http://edina.ed.ac.uk/StatAcc/index.html , nor in either of my atlases. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Richard Robertson

hello Richard what was the source ie manuscript or transcription? My first thought was this has to be somewhere in Edinburgh city, which was pretty small at the time. But in fact when you read it carefully it is only the father of the apprentice who is noted as being in 'Carmeban' ,which opens things up a bit I think. Judy ---------- >From: "richrob4" <richrob4@home.com> >To: SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [EDB] Where is Carmeban? >Date: Thu, Nov 22, 2001, 7:07 pm > > in Carmeban