G'day Cobbers, Have the following DEAN/McLEAN interests, as below: Descendants of Isabella MELVIN & Alexander DEAN Alexander DEAN, born circa 1819 in Elgin, Elgin, Scotland. // Occupation: Shoemaker (Journeyman). // 1881 Census Dwelling: 51 South Street Census Place: Elgin, Elgin, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203433 GRO Ref Volume 135 EnumDist 8 Page 20 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Alex. DEAN M 62 M Elgin, Elgin, Scotland Isabella DEAN M 61 F Elgin, Elgin, Scotland John DEAN U 19 M Elgin, Elgin, Scotland Lewis FRASER 6 M Elgin, Elgin, Scotland . He married Isabella MELVIN, 04 Feb 1848 in Elgin, Moray, Scotland, born circa 1820 in Elgin, Elgin, Scotland. I. Jessie Young DEAN, christened 25 Feb 1849 in Elgin, Moray Scotland. II. Margaret Geddes DEAN, christened 08 Dec 1850 in Elgin, Moray, Scotland. III. Alexander DEAN, born 25 Jun 1855 in Elgin, Moray, Scotland. IV. Elspet (Elsie) DEAN, born 16 Sep 1858 in Elgin, Moray, Scotland. // Occupation: Woollen Weaver. She married Charles McLEAN, 24 Jun 1892 in 51 Church Street, Elgin, Scotland, born 15 Sep 1860 in Garmouth, Moray, Scotland, (son of Charles McLEAN and Mary CLARK). Charles: // Married after banns according to the forms of the United Free Church. The Minister was James Crichton. The witnesses were John Dean and Jeannie B McLean. // Occupation: Blacksmith (Journeyman). // 1901 Census Dwelling: 3 Greenside Row Census Place: Edinburgh, Aberdeen, Scotland Source: Reg. Distict No. 685/2 Enumerator's No. 006 Page No. 002 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Charles McLEAN M 40 M Garmouth, Moray, Scotland Elsie McLEAN M 42 F Elgin, Elgin, Scotland William McLEAN 10 M Elgin, Elgin, Scotland Charles McLEAN 8 M Elgin, Elgin, Scotland Bella McLEAN 7 F Elgin, Elgin, Scotland Alexander McLEAN 5 M Elgin, Elgin, Scotland John McLEAN 4 M Elgin, Elgin, Scotland Ann HAY 3 F Garmouth, Moray, Scotland . A. William McLEAN, born circa 1891 in Elgin, Elgin, Scotland. B. Charles McLEAN, born 01 Feb 1893 in 51 South Street, Elgin, Scotland. C. Bella McLEAN, born circa 1894 in Elgin, Elgin, Scotland. D. Alexander McLEAN, born circa 1896 in Elgin, Elgin, Scotland. E. John McLEAN, born circa 1897 in Elgin, Elgin, Scotland. V. John Jenkins DEAN, born 16 Oct 1861 in Elgin, Moray, Scotland. Can anybody help me with the above families? Regards Greg Baldwin AIGS 9842 A&NESFHS 9933 KFHS 7737 Researching Surnames: ALLEN - Cornwall, UK. BALDWIN - Kent, UK>New Zealand> Qld, AUS BENTON - Warwick, UK BIRCH - Yorkshire, UK> Qld, AUS BRODIE - Parish of Boyndie, Banffshire, SCT CAMERON - Black Isle, SCT CLARK - Rhynie & Essie, Aberdeen SCT CROZIER - Banbridge, Down, NIR > NZ DEAN - Elgin, Elgin, Scotland EDWARDS - Cornwall, UK. FRANCES - AUS GRANT - Parish of Rhynie, Aberdeen, SCT INCH - Cornwall, UK>New Zealand INGLIS - Banff/Moray, SCT LAURANCE - Banff, SCT. LEYLAND - Warwick, UK. LUMSDEN - Banff, SCT>New Zealand MacDONALD - Inverness, SCT. MASSEY - Down/Antrim, NIR>Qld, AUS MELVIN - Elgin, Elgin, Scotland McFADDEN -Down, NIR McINTOSH - Inverness, SCT > Qld, AUS McINTOSH - Ross Shire, Scotland>Qld, AUS McKENZIE - Banff/Moray, SCT McLEAN - Garmouth, Moray, SCT>Qld, AUS McLEAVY - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS OLIVER - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS RAFFAN - Banff, SCT REEVES - Yorkshire (?), UK REYNOLDS - Cornwall, UK. ROBERTSON - Ross & Cromarty, SCT RUDD - Westmoreland, Eng>Qld, AUS SIMPSON - Banff/Moray, SCT SMITH - SCT SPRENGER - Qld, AUS STUART - Moray, SCT WAKEFIELD - Stroud, Gloucester, Eng>Qld, AUS WHITEHOUSE - Warwick, UK. WILSON - Ayr, SCT>New Zealand email to: kennethb@melbpc.org.au Australian Genealogy: http://www.ke.com.au/bdmaus/index.html

G'day Cobbers, Have the following DEAN/McLEAN interests, as below: Descendants of Isabella MELVIN & Alexander DEAN Alexander DEAN, born circa 1819 in Elgin, Elgin, Scotland. // Occupation: Shoemaker (Journeyman). // 1881 Census Dwelling: 51 South Street Census Place: Elgin, Elgin, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203433 GRO Ref Volume 135 EnumDist 8 Page 20 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Alex. DEAN M 62 M Elgin, Elgin, Scotland Isabella DEAN M 61 F Elgin, Elgin, Scotland John DEAN U 19 M Elgin, Elgin, Scotland Lewis FRASER 6 M Elgin, Elgin, Scotland . He married Isabella MELVIN, 04 Feb 1848 in Elgin, Moray, Scotland, born circa 1820 in Elgin, Elgin, Scotland. I. Jessie Young DEAN, christened 25 Feb 1849 in Elgin, Moray Scotland. II. Margaret Geddes DEAN, christened 08 Dec 1850 in Elgin, Moray, Scotland. III. Alexander DEAN, born 25 Jun 1855 in Elgin, Moray, Scotland. IV. Elspet (Elsie) DEAN, born 16 Sep 1858 in Elgin, Moray, Scotland. // Occupation: Woollen Weaver. She married Charles McLEAN, 24 Jun 1892 in 51 Church Street, Elgin, Scotland, born 15 Sep 1860 in Garmouth, Moray, Scotland, (son of Charles McLEAN and Mary CLARK). Charles: // Married after banns according to the forms of the United Free Church. The Minister was James Crichton. The witnesses were John Dean and Jeannie B McLean. // Occupation: Blacksmith (Journeyman). // 1901 Census Dwelling: 3 Greenside Row Census Place: Edinburgh, Aberdeen, Scotland Source: Reg. Distict No. 685/2 Enumerator's No. 006 Page No. 002 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Charles McLEAN M 40 M Garmouth, Moray, Scotland Elsie McLEAN M 42 F Elgin, Elgin, Scotland William McLEAN 10 M Elgin, Elgin, Scotland Charles McLEAN 8 M Elgin, Elgin, Scotland Bella McLEAN 7 F Elgin, Elgin, Scotland Alexander McLEAN 5 M Elgin, Elgin, Scotland John McLEAN 4 M Elgin, Elgin, Scotland Ann HAY 3 F Garmouth, Moray, Scotland . A. William McLEAN, born circa 1891 in Elgin, Elgin, Scotland. B. Charles McLEAN, born 01 Feb 1893 in 51 South Street, Elgin, Scotland. C. Bella McLEAN, born circa 1894 in Elgin, Elgin, Scotland. D. Alexander McLEAN, born circa 1896 in Elgin, Elgin, Scotland. E. John McLEAN, born circa 1897 in Elgin, Elgin, Scotland. V. John Jenkins DEAN, born 16 Oct 1861 in Elgin, Moray, Scotland. Can anybody help me with the above families? Regards Greg Baldwin AIGS 9842 A&NESFHS 9933 KFHS 7737 Researching Surnames: ALLEN - Cornwall, UK. BALDWIN - Kent, UK>New Zealand> Qld, AUS BENTON - Warwick, UK BIRCH - Yorkshire, UK> Qld, AUS BRODIE - Parish of Boyndie, Banffshire, SCT CAMERON - Black Isle, SCT CLARK - Rhynie & Essie, Aberdeen SCT CROZIER - Banbridge, Down, NIR > NZ DEAN - Elgin, Elgin, Scotland EDWARDS - Cornwall, UK. FRANCES - AUS GRANT - Parish of Rhynie, Aberdeen, SCT INCH - Cornwall, UK>New Zealand INGLIS - Banff/Moray, SCT LAURANCE - Banff, SCT. LEYLAND - Warwick, UK. LUMSDEN - Banff, SCT>New Zealand MacDONALD - Inverness, SCT. MASSEY - Down/Antrim, NIR>Qld, AUS MELVIN - Elgin, Elgin, Scotland McFADDEN -Down, NIR McINTOSH - Inverness, SCT > Qld, AUS McINTOSH - Ross Shire, Scotland>Qld, AUS McKENZIE - Banff/Moray, SCT McLEAN - Garmouth, Moray, SCT>Qld, AUS McLEAVY - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS OLIVER - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS RAFFAN - Banff, SCT REEVES - Yorkshire (?), UK REYNOLDS - Cornwall, UK. ROBERTSON - Ross & Cromarty, SCT RUDD - Westmoreland, Eng>Qld, AUS SIMPSON - Banff/Moray, SCT SMITH - SCT SPRENGER - Qld, AUS STUART - Moray, SCT WAKEFIELD - Stroud, Gloucester, Eng>Qld, AUS WHITEHOUSE - Warwick, UK. WILSON - Ayr, SCT>New Zealand email to: kennethb@melbpc.org.au Australian Genealogy: http://www.ke.com.au/bdmaus/index.html

Hello, Could anyone tell me if the area's of St Andrew's and Newington in Edinburgh close in proximity? Thankyou Rhonda in Cairns

Depends what you mean by close....do you have street names? Judy ---------- >From: "RHONDA ROSS" <rlross@iprimus.com.au> >To: SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [EDB] Geography >Date: Wed, Dec 26, 2001, 12:58 pm > > Hello, > > Could anyone tell me if the area's of St Andrew's and Newington in > Edinburgh close in proximity? > > Thankyou > Rhonda in Cairns > >

Hello, I am new to this list and I wish you all a very Happy and Safe Christmas. I have been researching my family history for 2 years now and have thoroughly enjoyed every moment of it. I have just found that some members of my YULE family from Aberdeen moved to Edinburgh at sometime between 1881 and 1891. My GG Grandmother Elizabeth YULE nee WATTIE died in 1896 at 28 St Bernards Cres. Edinburgh. The death was recorded by Mary A YULE her daughter a music teacher. Could anyone tell me if St Bernards Cres still exists? Is anyone researching this family? Regards Rhonda in Cairns Aust

Would anyone with a copy of the 1851 census index for Edinburgh please be able to look up an entry for me to help narrow down my search of the census. It is for the family of John Boyd and his wife Janet Bairnsfather Boyd [born 1815]. Many thanks Heather ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Heather and Kevin Bray 26A Hargest Crescent St. Kilda Dunedin 9001 NEW ZEALAND Telephone: +64 03 4554288 Fax: 03 4554228 Email: kandh.bray@xtra.co.nz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

This is not a virus....do not delete this file! This message is a virus hoax that has been passed around quite regularly. Please any of you, before posting virus messages post them to the list owner and then we will be able to carry on with our genealogy on the list. Or, better still, check out http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/hoax.html to check whether any virus is actually a threat or not. It apparently is a rule of the rootsweb mailing lists that viri get reported to the list owner, not the list. I'm sorry if this sounds rather hard but I am sick of all the hoax messages passed around especially at a time when we are still vulnerable to real virus problems. These hoax virus messages are as much a nuisance as the real virus. Jeni Simpson, Christchurch, New Zealand

Hi Barbara, I was really wondering if you had a Susan Kinghorn in among your McKays. I will tell you what I know: Susan Kinghorn b 1837 married 27th July 1857 at East Pitt Street (her home) John McKay 25 Couper Street, Leith Engineer (Batchelor) Father William McKay Farmer Mother Janet MS Mills (I have decided I do not believe this & suspect it may be Miller) Harry Duff minister of South Leith, Robert McKay, Mary Kinghorn; witnesses Catherine Murphy McKay was born to them in Newcastle upon Tyne in Dec. 1857 (she was named after her maternal grandmother). In the 1861 census she was staying with her aunts in Leith. Here one starts to speculate. "Staying" to a Scot can also mean "living" (as in Where do you stay? means Where do you live?) so it may or may not have been a long term arrangement. She was not yet 3 1/2 ; where were her parents? Some years down the track we have another wedding: Margaret Kinghorn b 1861 married 9th July 1883 Charles Kinghorn MacIntosh, Master Mariner (Batchelor) 26 years Father Alexander MacIntosh (deceased) Mother Susan MacIntosh MS Kinghorn (deceased) As Susan Kinghorns are not exactly common to put it mildly, one assumes that it was the same person. Interesting, given that C K MacIntosh must also have been born c. 1857! Any information gratefully received. Sheena ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barb Smith" <zero@pacificcoast.net> To: <ireland@pavilion.co.uk> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 12:44 AM Subject: McKays > Hi Sheena, although we have a couple of names in common I can not see a > connection at present. Did you have a Neil there? I find McKays so > difficult to untangle. > Barbara >

Check before you do this - if this is the same thing that was making the rounds months ago, it is a hoax - and by deleting the file you will damage your system. ----- Original Message ----- From: Elizabeth Darby <e.darby@virgin.net> To: <SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:34 PM Subject: [EDB] Virus - "sulfnbk.exe " not yet detectable by Norton or McAfee > To all those on my contact list - I am sorry I may have passed you a virus unknowingly. It comes from a commercial source, but I don't know where I got it. > > Here's how to get rid of it. > 1 Go to 'start', then to 'find or search' depending on your computer > > 2 In the 'search for file/folders', typein sulfnbk.exe - this is the virus programme > > 3 in the look in bos make sure you are searching driveC. > > 4 Hit search/find button > > 5 If this file shows up(it has an ugly black icon) DO NOT OPEN IT. > > 6 RIGHT click on the file- go down to 'delete' and left click > > 7 Say yes when it asks if you want to send it to the Recycle Bin > > 8 go to your Desktop (where all your icons are)and double click on the Recycle Bin > > 9 RIGHT click on 'sulfnbk.exe' and delete again or empty the Bin > > It is spread by your address book, so if you find it contact all concerned. It is nasty in that it lies dormant for 14 days and then wipes otu the hard drive. Apologies, hope none of you will find it, but where did I get it from? > Regards Lizzie D. > > > > >

To all those on my contact list - I am sorry I may have passed you a virus unknowingly. It comes from a commercial source, but I don't know where I got it. Here's how to get rid of it. 1 Go to 'start', then to 'find or search' depending on your computer 2 In the 'search for file/folders', typein sulfnbk.exe - this is the virus programme 3 in the look in bos make sure you are searching driveC. 4 Hit search/find button 5 If this file shows up(it has an ugly black icon) DO NOT OPEN IT. 6 RIGHT click on the file- go down to 'delete' and left click 7 Say yes when it asks if you want to send it to the Recycle Bin 8 go to your Desktop (where all your icons are)and double click on the Recycle Bin 9 RIGHT click on 'sulfnbk.exe' and delete again or empty the Bin It is spread by your address book, so if you find it contact all concerned. It is nasty in that it lies dormant for 14 days and then wipes otu the hard drive. Apologies, hope none of you will find it, but where did I get it from? Regards Lizzie D.

Hi Listers, My g g grandfather James Reid died a pauper aged 71 in the combination poorhouse Inveresk 15 Jan1869.Does anyone have any information on this place? Would his wife Mary have been with him as seems to be implied by the name? Whereabouts was it actually and is any information available on a website for instance? I would appreciate any bit of information you may have as I don`t know anything at all at the moment. Thanks, Bill Wood

Hi Greg, I can not see any direct connectiion so far. I have David Law married to Susan Cooper and children Willian b 1803, Francis b 1805 and Archibald b 1813. There could have been others not listed, I have seen this before. Do you know John Law's parents? Regards Barbara I tried you direct but had it returned.

Hi , would anyone know if their would be any newspaper articles on a drowning or death notice who could do a lookup. have death cert below.her name was Mary Ann but down as Ann on death cert. or does anyone have a connection with any one listed.I do have more detail on the Lithgow family. thank you Janette 685/1 73 Ann Lithgow Married to George Lithgow, Ship Carpenter 15 January 1870 Found about 10 a.m. in Union Canal near Bainfield, Edinburgh Aged 35 Peter McKay, Flesher (dec) & Alison Goodwin, formerly McKay M/s Nimmo Downing - reported to Procurator Fiscal Registered by G Lithgow, widower of 6 Tarvit St 17 January 1870 Edinburgh

G'day Cobbers, Am researching my McLEAN ancestry and have the following: Descendants of Elspet DEAN & Charles McLEAN 1. Charles McLEAN, b. 15 Sep 1860, Garmouth, Moray, Scotland, (son of Charles McLEAN and Mary CLARK). // Married after banns according to the forms of the United Free Church. The Minister was James Crichton. The witnesses were John Dean and Jeannie B McLean. // Occupation: Blacksmith (Journeyman). // 1901 Census Dwelling: 3 Greenside Row Census Place: Edinburgh, Aberdeen, Scotland Source: Reg. Distict No. 685/2 Enumerator's No. 006 Page No. 002 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Charles McLEAN M 40 M Garmouth, Moray, Scotland Elsie McLEAN M 42 F Elgin, Elgin, Scotland William McLEAN 10 M Elgin, Elgin, Scotland Charles McLEAN 8 M Elgin, Elgin, Scotland Bella McLEAN 7 F Elgin, Elgin, Scotland Alexander McLEAN 5 M Elgin, Elgin, Scotland John McLEAN 4 M Elgin, Elgin, Scotland Ann HAY 3 F Garmouth, Moray, Scotland . He married Elspet (Elsie) DEAN, 24 Jun 1892, in 51 Church Street, Elgin, Scotland, b. circa 1859, (daughter of Alexander DEAN and Isabella MELVIN). Children: i William McLEAN, b. circa 1891, Elgin, Elgin, Scotland. ii Charles McLEAN, b. 01 Feb 1893, 51 South Street, Elgin, Scotland. iii Bella McLEAN, b. circa 1894, Elgin, Elgin, Scotland. iv Alexander McLEAN, b. circa 1896, Elgin, Elgin, Scotland. v John McLEAN, b. circa 1897, Elgin, Elgin, Scotland I have a lot of data on the Aussie side of this line and would am looking for descendants from this line. Regards Greg Baldwin AIGS 9842 A&NESFHS 9933 KFHS 7737 Researching Surnames: ALLEN - Cornwall, UK. BALDWIN - Kent, UK>New Zealand> Qld, AUS BENTON - Warwick, UK BIRCH - Yorkshire, UK> Qld, AUS BRODIE - Parish of Boyndie, Banffshire, SCT CAMERON - Black Isle, SCT CLARK - Rhynie & Essie, Aberdeen SCT CROZIER - Banbridge, Down, NIR > NZ EDWARDS - Cornwall, UK. FRANCES - AUS GRANT - Parish of Rhynie, Aberdeen, SCT INCH - Cornwall, UK>New Zealand INGLIS - Banff/Moray, SCT LAURANCE - Banff, SCT. LEYLAND - Warwick, UK. LUMSDEN - Banff, SCT>New Zealand MacDONALD - Inverness, SCT. MASSEY - Down/Antrim, NIR>Qld, AUS McFADDEN -Down, NIR McINTOSH - Inverness, SCT > Qld, AUS McINTOSH - Ross Shire, Scotland>Qld, AUS McKENZIE - Banff/Moray, SCT McLEAN - Garmouth, Moray, SCT>Qld, AUS McLEAVY - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS OLIVER - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS RAFFAN - Banff, SCT REEVES - Yorkshire (?), UK REYNOLDS - Cornwall, UK. ROBERTSON - Ross & Cromarty, SCT RUDD - Westmoreland, Eng>Qld, AUS SIMPSON - Banff/Moray, SCT SMITH - SCT SPRENGER - Qld, AUS STUART - Moray, SCT WAKEFIELD - Stroud, Gloucester, Eng>Qld, AUS WHITEHOUSE - Warwick, UK. WILSON - Ayr, SCT>New Zealand email to: kennethb@melbpc.org.au Australian Genealogy: http://www.ke.com.au/bdmaus/index.html

RELISTING Names I am Researching the below *****David OGILVY (Painter) of Edinburgh who married Catharina SPENCE on 2nd July 1801 at Tolbooth Church Parish Edinburgh *****Alexander OGILVY born 17th November 1802 Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland, married 1835 to Isabella WILLIAMSON *****David OGILVY born 26 Jun 1804 Edinburgh Parish Edinburgh Midlothian Scotland married 9 Sep 1841 Australia to Elizabeth Aitchison WILLIAMSON *****William Spence OGILVY born 28/12/1806, Edinburgh Parish Edinburgh Midlothian Scotland *****John Spence OGILVY born 1806 Edinburgh Midlothian Scotland *****Catharine OGILVY born 16/12/1808, Edinburgh Parish Edinburgh Midlothian Scotland *****Thomas Davidson OGILVY born 1/10/1813 Edinburgh Midlothian Scotland *****Catharine OGILVY born 7/3/1811 Edinburgh Parish Edinburgh Midlothian Scotland, married 16/07/1850 to John WOOD-BEILBY *****Isobella BATHGATE born 1770, married 11 Sep 1805 to James WILLIAMSON at Old Church Parish Canongate, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland (Bathgate's family owned "Bathgate'sCandlemakers Co." of Falkirk and Edinburgh) *****James Williamson OGILVY married 1852 to Elizabeth Charlotte HOWE, then married 1892 to Alice Olive Nelson, then married 1909 to Jean Emily CARMICHAEL Mentioned in family notes a William OGILVY came out with brother David to Australia in 1839 ****************************************** Any Scottish Edinburgh family information, especially on David and Catharina would be appreciated Regards, Colin Darby Australia colnet@optusnet.com.au --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.307 / Virus Database: 168 - Release Date: 11/12/01

Hi Angi, My great gandfather was George Croll, born in the Gorbals in 1849. The younger siblings in the family were all born in Edinburgh. Any connections? Sheena

Many thanks to those that helped in finding descriptions of occupations, particularly Judy and Louise! This is a great group! Richard Robertson

G'day Cobbers, Am researching my McLEAN ancestry and have the following: Descendants of Elspet DEAN & Charles McLEAN 1. Charles McLEAN, b. 15 Sep 1860, Garmouth, Moray, Scotland, (son of Charles McLEAN and Mary CLARK). // Married after banns according to the forms of the United Free Church. The Minister was James Crichton. The witnesses were John Dean and Jeannie B McLean. // Occupation: Blacksmith (Journeyman). // 1901 Census Dwelling: 3 Greenside Row Census Place: Edinburgh, Aberdeen, Scotland Source: Reg. Distict No. 685/2 Enumerator's No. 006 Page No. 002 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Charles McLEAN M 40 M Garmouth, Moray, Scotland Elsie McLEAN M 42 F Elgin, Elgin, Scotland William McLEAN 10 M Elgin, Elgin, Scotland Charles McLEAN 8 M Elgin, Elgin, Scotland Bella McLEAN 7 F Elgin, Elgin, Scotland Alexander McLEAN 5 M Elgin, Elgin, Scotland John McLEAN 4 M Elgin, Elgin, Scotland Ann HAY 3 F Garmouth, Moray, Scotland . He married Elspet (Elsie) DEAN, 24 Jun 1892, in 51 Church Street, Elgin, Scotland, b. circa 1859, (daughter of Alexander DEAN and Isabella MELVIN). Children: i William McLEAN, b. circa 1891, Elgin, Elgin, Scotland. ii Charles McLEAN, b. 01 Feb 1893, 51 South Street, Elgin, Scotland. iii Bella McLEAN, b. circa 1894, Elgin, Elgin, Scotland. iv Alexander McLEAN, b. circa 1896, Elgin, Elgin, Scotland. v John McLEAN, b. circa 1897, Elgin, Elgin, Scotland I have a lot of data on the Aussie side of this line and would am looking for descendants from this line. Regards Greg Baldwin AIGS 9842 A&NESFHS 9933 KFHS 7737 Researching Surnames: ALLEN - Cornwall, UK. BALDWIN - Kent, UK>New Zealand> Qld, AUS BENTON - Warwick, UK BIRCH - Yorkshire, UK> Qld, AUS BRODIE - Parish of Boyndie, Banffshire, SCT CAMERON - Black Isle, SCT CLARK - Rhynie & Essie, Aberdeen SCT CROZIER - Banbridge, Down, NIR > NZ EDWARDS - Cornwall, UK. FRANCES - AUS GRANT - Parish of Rhynie, Aberdeen, SCT INCH - Cornwall, UK>New Zealand INGLIS - Banff/Moray, SCT LAURANCE - Banff, SCT. LEYLAND - Warwick, UK. LUMSDEN - Banff, SCT>New Zealand MacDONALD - Inverness, SCT. MASSEY - Down/Antrim, NIR>Qld, AUS McFADDEN -Down, NIR McINTOSH - Inverness, SCT > Qld, AUS McINTOSH - Ross Shire, Scotland>Qld, AUS McKENZIE - Banff/Moray, SCT McLEAN - Garmouth, Moray, SCT>Qld, AUS McLEAVY - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS OLIVER - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS RAFFAN - Banff, SCT REEVES - Yorkshire (?), UK REYNOLDS - Cornwall, UK. ROBERTSON - Ross & Cromarty, SCT RUDD - Westmoreland, Eng>Qld, AUS SIMPSON - Banff/Moray, SCT SMITH - SCT SPRENGER - Qld, AUS STUART - Moray, SCT WAKEFIELD - Stroud, Gloucester, Eng>Qld, AUS WHITEHOUSE - Warwick, UK. WILSON - Ayr, SCT>New Zealand email to: kennethb@melbpc.org.au Australian Genealogy: http://www.ke.com.au/bdmaus/index.html

To Richard Robertson: This is what I found using GOOGLE search engine. CORIAR - could he have been a tanner of hides? Coriaria is a plant. Both the leaves and berries are poisonous. Uses: A black ink is obtained from the leaves, it can also be used as a dye. The leaves contain tannin and are used for tanning leather and dyeing black. DOUKER and DOOKER - could have raised ducks, been a dancer or a thief http://www.birdtours.co.uk/ldbws/winter2000/Localnames.htm The Common Scoter, also known as Douker or Black Dyker, was "by far the most abundant of the Ducks which frequent the Lancashire coast, and is sometimes seen in Morecambe Bay in flocks of many thousands". How things have changed, not only in bird names but also in distribution and number of birds etc. 2. Here it is a reference to Dance ... http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/articles/dance_em_dict.html [Cybist[-e]ter,] vel [Cybister,] [[. e]ris,] [m. g.] [p. b.] [Bud.] A douker vnder the water: al so one which doth tumble. a tumbler, or daunser that t [um] bleth & daunseth round. 3. Another explanation .. this is more fun - http://www.dkeith.clara.co.uk/campbeltownlife/part11.htm Periodically the casks had to be checked for leaks and for evaporation levels, also the specific gravity of the liquid had to be checked, this being done by the exciseman. The latter also stationed himself at the door to observe the coopers who were tapping the casks for loose joints and also to catch 'dookers'. The practice of dooking was rife, it involved carrying in a small lemonade bottle, tied to the inside leg with a string. When the exciseman was not looking and when the casks were at the back of the warehouse the dooker quickly removed the bung of the cask, had a dook, replaced the bung, then placed the bottle at the back of the cask. The dooker then went to the door and was searched by the exciseman. He would then return to the rear in the pretence that he had left his hammer. The bottle would then be picked up, pushed down the leg, and the man would walk out with a gill of almost pure alcohol. When all the barrels were checked the manager and the exciseman signed a book, checked the keys, then locked the warehouse door...................... I hope I haven't wasted your time ... L. Ross lross@mnsi.net

Hi, Barbara, We have a Susan Kinghorn who married John McKay in Leith in 1857; his parents were William & Janet. As the names of the families are similar, I wonder if there is some connection? Sheena