Thanks to those that relied ref Crichton Institution I had some good feed back and now chasing them up. Thanks once again Bob

----- Original Message ----- From: "Katherine Paterson" <[email protected]> > snip Thomas R. ROBERTSON was born in Selkirkshire about 1836. He and his > brothers Gideon, George, William and Alexander are all listed as > "confectioners" on the various records I have found in the Ontario > Archives. I believe they emigrated with their parents around the same > time as my ancestors. > snip Katherine: I believe your Thomas ROBERTSON was born 11 Sep 1838, in Selkirk, Selkirk, the son of Jessie RUTHERFORD and Thomas ROBERTSON. To see the rest of the family, go to www.scotsfind.org and open the Robertson Scottish Birth & Baptism database sorted by families (i.e., mother's surname). Richard Robertson

Could someone please advise me how to get to my fathers service record. He served with the ROYAL ARMY MEDICAL CORPS during the first World War His name was David Baxter Robertson Thank you

On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:45:15 +1300, "Dave" <[email protected]> wrote: >Could someone please advise me how to get to my fathers service record. >He served with the ROYAL ARMY MEDICAL CORPS during the first World War >His name was David Baxter Robertson If he was discharged after 1921-ish, then his service Record will have been retained by the Ministry of Defence, and can only be obtained by (or with the permission of) his next of kin. See http://www.veteransagency.mod.uk/service_recs/service_recs.htm http://www.veteransagency.mod.uk/service_recs/service%20_recs_army.htm http://www.veteransagency.mod.uk/contact_us/contact_us_faqserpens.htm If he was discharged before 1921, and didn't join up again (eg in the Home Guard in WW2), then his Service Record might be stored at the National Archives at Kew. For Other Ranks (ie not officers), only about 30%-40% of WW1 Service Records have survived, and they are stored on microfilm in the Burnt and Unburnt Documents collections. See <http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/pathways/firstworldwar/service_records/sr_soldiers.htm> and <http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/RdLeaflet.asp?sLeafletID=18> A WW1 OR's Service Record is a goldmine of information, but there are problems with their survival rate and with their legibility, especially with the Burnt Documents, which are often charred at the edges. To search for it, you could visit or get someone to look through the microfilms at the National Archives, or order the films through the LDS. If he served overseas in WW1, then he will almost certainly have been awarded a campaign medal. A card index system was used to record the issue of these campaign medals, and these Medal Index Cards were first put on microfiche, and have recently been scanned and entered into a database. You can search the database at <http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/browse-refine.asp?CatID=10&searchType=browserefine&pagenumber=1&query=*&queryType=1> and there are guidance notes at http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/medals.asp Unfortunately, since there are about 6-7 million cards, it is very likely that you fill find several MICs for a particular name. Also there is no standard way of entering a name, eg John Albert Smith might be recorded as John A Smith, J A Smith, or John Albert Smith, and so several searches will have to be made. You can download an image of his Medal Index Card from the database for £3.50, and this may give you information about his service over and above his medal entitlement. Note that each download usually consists of a sheet of six MICs for men who have names near to each other alphabetically. It's usually best to pay for and download each MIC separately to avoid paying for the same sheet more than once. The MIC will give the reference number of his Medal Rolls, and depending on what the MIC says, it may be worth having a look at them. At the moment, these are only available from the National Archives. Do you know where he was educated, or what part of the city he lived in? Forrest -- Forrest Anderson, Edinburgh, Scotland. E-mail: [email protected] Website: www.military-researcher.com Forrestdale Research - Military Genealogical Researcher

I know it is not the right list but I hope someone will help me. I have just used Ancestry.co.uk and found my father travelling over to America in 1926 it has his father down at Crichton Institution Dumfries has anyone any idea what sort of Institution it was. Any help much appreciated Bob

In the 1851 census I found my 3x great grandfather Robert Marshall, b. Dundee, married to Agnes, b Larnarkshire, Glasgow. They had two children, Mary 6, and Robert 10 months, and were living in the St Cuthberts area of Edinburgh. Two years later in 1853 he marries my 3x great grandmother Jessie Shiels. Does anyone out there recognize this first marriage. I have no information about Agnes, her last name or what happened to her children. I am hoping that she might be in someone's family tree. Thanks for looking....kathleen

Hi: here is some info: The Crichton Foundation, Dumfries and Galloway, Scotland The Crichton Foundation is a charitable trust, formerly known as the Crichton Endowment Trust, which was first set up by Dumfries and Galloway Regional Council in 1996 to support the Crichton Project. With a Mission Statement of 'creating a world class centre of learning and enterprise', the central role of the Crichton Foundation is to raise funds for charitable purpose and to apply these funds to: widen access to higher and further education in southern Scotland and beyond; assist the academic institutions on the Crichton University Campus to develop their academic programmes and facilities; preserve and regenerate the heritage of the Crichton estate as a public asset, to be enjoyed by the local community; and raise awareness of the importance of the Crichton University Campus for the prosperity of the local community. The Crichton site is situated in Dumfries, Dumfries and Galloway, south west Scotland. First and foremost it is a university campus, unique in that it has attracted five different academic institutions to one site. In addition, there are economic benefits being delivered by the development of the Business Park and the cultural and heritage expansion of the site.

Hello list, Such a nice chat going on about confectioners, I'll chime in with my family's candy connection. The Robertson candy factory was located in downtown Toronto, Canada, just north of the historical part of the city surrounding the St. Lawrence Market area. The business is no more, but the building is still there, transformed into an exercise club! My connection with the Robertson family: My 2xgr-grandfather William VAIR, his mother, and his siblings all arrived in the Toronto area in the mid 19th century, coming from the Borders. William's youngest sister Elizabeth Scott (Lizzie) VAIR married Thomas R. ROBERTSON in 1864 in Toronto. Thomas R. ROBERTSON was born in Selkirkshire about 1836. He and his brothers Gideon, George, William and Alexander are all listed as "confectioners" on the various records I have found in the Ontario Archives. I believe they emigrated with their parents around the same time as my ancestors. I can't speak to their factory products personally, but I think toffee bars were a staple of the Robertson company in Canada. Katherine Vair Paterson

Hello Janet, Yes I already know that Sarah's Grandmother was Margaret Ritchie who married William Rodger. I was enquiring about what happened to Sarah after 1901 census. I have been on Scotlands People and can't find her birth, there is one Sarah Paxton born but I downloaded it and it was not her. the Sarah Paxton I downloaded was the daughter of Andrew Paxton and who ever I did not exactly take notice after finding she was not my Sarah. Well at least I know if or when I go on Scotlands People site again to look up for a Sarah Paxton marriage if she did marry in Scotland that is. I just wanted to see if anyone was researching their family and had her in their tree. But thank you anyway Kind Regards Pamela ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] DO ANYONE HAVE A SARAH PAXTON IN THEIR TREEPLEASE > Have you considered the possibility of RODGER being a maiden surname of > grandmother or even gt grandmother. > > Janet > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "PAMELA GROVES" > >> Hello List, >> I am trying to find anything about a Sarah paxton born about 1893 in >> Musselburgh, Inveresk, Midlothian, Scotland. She was the daughter of >> James Paxton and Christina Cunningham Ritchie Rodger. >> Sarah Paxton was the sister of William Rodger Paxton whom was my >> Grandfather. >> Thank you in advance for any information I might receive. >> Kind Regards >> Pamela J Groves > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Have you considered the possibility of RODGER being a maiden surname of grandmother or even gt grandmother. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "PAMELA GROVES" > Hello List, > I am trying to find anything about a Sarah paxton born about 1893 in Musselburgh, Inveresk, Midlothian, Scotland. She was the daughter of James Paxton and Christina Cunningham Ritchie Rodger. > Sarah Paxton was the sister of William Rodger Paxton whom was my Grandfather. > Thank you in advance for any information I might receive. > Kind Regards > Pamela J Groves

Hello List, I am trying to find anything about a Sarah paxton born about 1893 in Musselburgh, Inveresk, Midlothian, Scotland. She was the daughter of James Paxton and Christina Cunningham Ritchie Rodger. Sarah Paxton was the sister of William Rodger Paxton whom was my Grandfather. Thank you in advance for any information I might receive. Kind Regards Pamela J Groves

There is often some confusion between modern day sweets and confectionery and the traditional craft of baker and confectioner. By definition, confectionery is anything that is made by mixing things up, so historically a confection can be medicine, jam, preserves, sweetmeats or even a fancy frock. The confectioner was responsible for the fancy end of the baker's trade - your cream cakes, cream horns, eclairs, german biscuits, meringues and vanilla slices. Hence 'confectioner's custard' which is used for filling cakes and pastries. But most people these days probably think of 'confectionery' simply as sweeties - commercially made tablet, toffee and boilings for example. So if you have a 'baker and confectioner' or a 'confectioner' living at home with a baker parent, you are probably looking at someone who created tea time treats. Confectioner in the sweetie sense also seems to have referred originally to an artisan making and selling sweetmeats on the same premises. Edinburgh did have quite a few of these businesses - eg Casey's down in St Mary Street. And there was a shop somewhere near St Patricks Square - Jeannie Veitch's? But since these things are made in bulk and have a long shelf life it is easy to see how 'confectionery' could become the business of a sweet shop with branded products in jars and boxes - or a sideline for a shop selling newspapers and ciggies. Judy On 12 Nov 2006, at 04:41, Jean Coker wrote: > I have confectioners in my family tree too (as do some of you who > were recently posting) - > I'm assuming they made candy. > But does anyone have any information on what the confectioners did > - different kinds of candy? chocolates? etc. > and what their shops would have been like? snip

Hello list, Is there anyone researching their family tree and who has a WILLIAM LETTUCE AND MARGARET PAXTON in please. If there is please get in touch as She was my Grandfathers sister. William Lettuce and Margaret Paxton were married on 3, june 1913 at St, John Street, Edinburgh. Margaret was the daughter of James Paxton and Christina Cunningham Ritchie Rodger. Margarets father was a Golf Caddie. My Grandfather was William Rodger Paxton born 4, January 1897 he died in January 1960. Thank you in advance for any Information i might receive. Kind Regards Pamela J Groves

my great grandmother was a "chocolate dipper" in Massachusetts in 1907, probably Cambridge. Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jessie Newlands" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 12:09 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Confectioners > Confectioners were more people who SOLD the various candies (although some > of them did MAKE them too - such as Ferguson's of "Edinburgh Rock" fame > and > many others too they made. But most Confectioners really only sold the > sweets as we called them. Their shops were a child's idea of 'Paradise'!! > Jessie in B.C. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jean Coker" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 8:41 PM > Subject: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Confectioners > > > I have confectioners in my family tree too (as do some of you who were > recently posting) - > I'm assuming they made candy. > But does anyone have any information on what the confectioners did - > different kinds of candy? chocolates? etc. > and what their shops would have been like? > > Jean Coker > Jacksonville, Florida > Researching AULDs, ROLLANDs, MURIEs, and DALGLIESHs > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello list, I am Lookinf for information on Peter Paxton who was the son of Henry Paxton and Jane Hunter. Peter Paxton was born August 6, 1843 in Musselburgh, Inveresk, Midlothian, Scotland. I know he was still living at home with his father Henry in 1861 Census the address was 23, Carrubbers Close, Edinburgh, Scotland. Henry Paxton Occupation: Shoemaker. Peter Paxton Occupation: Leather Cutter. I do not know what happened to him after 1861. Thank you in advance for any information I might receive. kind Regards Pamela J Groves

I have confectioners in my family tree too (as do some of you who were recently posting) - I'm assuming they made candy. But does anyone have any information on what the confectioners did - different kinds of candy? chocolates? etc. and what their shops would have been like? Jean Coker Jacksonville, Florida Researching AULDs, ROLLANDs, MURIEs, and DALGLIESHs

Confectioners were more people who SOLD the various candies (although some of them did MAKE them too - such as Ferguson's of "Edinburgh Rock" fame and many others too they made. But most Confectioners really only sold the sweets as we called them. Their shops were a child's idea of 'Paradise'!! Jessie in B.C. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Coker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 8:41 PM Subject: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Confectioners I have confectioners in my family tree too (as do some of you who were recently posting) - I'm assuming they made candy. But does anyone have any information on what the confectioners did - different kinds of candy? chocolates? etc. and what their shops would have been like? Jean Coker Jacksonville, Florida Researching AULDs, ROLLANDs, MURIEs, and DALGLIESHs ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Cyndy I also have a Aitken in my family tree. Agnes Ferguson married a Aitken who was a confectioner in Edinburgh during the 1920. Do you have anyone in you Aitken tree that may match. Sorry, not much info to go on. Nancy Duffy Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cyndy Cotton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Morningside Cemetery - Thomas Aitken > Forrest > > Thank you for listing the AITKEN entries for me. I can't link any of the > deaths you've listed to my family but it's still quite possible. I've made > a > note of the references anyway. And I'll write to the Bereavement Service > as > you suggest. My gg-grandfather was 82 years old when he died of > acute-pneumonia. You've brought to my attention that some of my other > missing family members may have been killed in the War though, and I'll > investigate that too. Thank you for taking the time to look up for me and > reply. > > Best Wishes, > > Cyndy > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get FREE company branded e-mail accounts and business Web site from > Microsoft Office Live > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Forrest Thank you for listing the AITKEN entries for me. I can't link any of the deaths you've listed to my family but it's still quite possible. I've made a note of the references anyway. And I'll write to the Bereavement Service as you suggest. My gg-grandfather was 82 years old when he died of acute-pneumonia. You've brought to my attention that some of my other missing family members may have been killed in the War though, and I'll investigate that too. Thank you for taking the time to look up for me and reply. Best Wishes, Cyndy _________________________________________________________________ Get FREE company branded e-mail accounts and business Web site from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/

What a treasure! Thanks for posting. Now all I need is a few days to read it all .. :D On 10/14/06, Cyndy Cotton <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi > > Found this site and thought that others might enjoy it too > > Cyndy > > http://www.oldandnewedinburgh.co.uk/ > Old and New Edinburgh -- ~ Maer in Ontario Researching SPARKS, HANCOCK, HARVEY in Somerset, England. McLEAN in Ontario, Manitoba and Scotland BATTEN in Ontario and Michigan