Thank you to everyone who responded to my requests for a map of Rose St and for information with regard to its history. The general consensus is that the street was a red light district from the late 1800s to about 1970 or so. My great-great grandmother ran a lodging house there after her husband died according to the 1851 and 1861 census. Can anyone tell me what Rose street looked like during those decades? Im hoping that the red light didnt go on until maybe the 1890s? ....kathleen

Thanks Carol for the website. I just printed some really good maps of Rose Street and Cowans Close from multimaps and the other websites recommended by everyone who responded to my request. regards...kathleen

Cowan's Close does still exist and you'll find it shown at the following link - http://www.multimap.com/map/places.cgi?client=public&lang=&advanced=&keepicon=true&quicksearch=cowan%27s+close if that doesn't work, try any map website and enter the name. The other address is behind Princes Street so they are quite a distance apart. Hope this helps Carol <Hello Listers, I found the following two addresses in the151 scottish census: 9 Cowan's Close, St. Cuthberts 6 East Rose Street South Side, St. Andrews I don't think that Cowan's Close exists today. Will sks with access to a legible 1851 street map of Edinburgh please look up these addresses and tell me the distance between the two? I've tried looking online, but can't locate Cowan's Close. thank you...kathleen> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 7230 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now!

Thank you Chris for that information. I will try the website. I have heard that Rose street was at one time a red light district. Do you know enough about Edinburgh to know at what point in history this occurred? regards......kathleen

Hello Kathleen, I found Cowan's Close on a modern map of Edinburgh. See http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=326280&y=672883&z=1&sv=326280,672883 &st=4&ar=Y&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf&dn=521&ax=326280&ay=672883 I found East Rose Street on a map from 1838. It is between, and runs parallel to, Prince Street and George Street. It terminates on the east end at St. Andrew's Square. I do not know if this modern Cowan's Close is also the historical one. Nor do I know the parish boundaries. Ignoring that, the distance between these two places is approximately 1 mile. Cheers, Chris -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of k c Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 7:27 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SCT-EDINBURGH] 1851 street map of Edinburh Hello Listers, I found the following two addresses in the151 scottish census: 9 Cowan's Close, St. Cuthberts 6 East Rose Street South Side, St. Andrews I don't think that Cowan's Close exists today. Will sks with access to a legible 1851 street map of Edinburgh please look up these addresses and tell me the distance between the two? I've tried looking online, but can't locate Cowan's Close. thank you...kathleen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Listers, I found the following two addresses in the151 scottish census: 9 Cowan's Close, St. Cuthberts 6 East Rose Street South Side, St. Andrews I don't think that Cowan's Close exists today. Will sks with access to a legible 1851 street map of Edinburgh please look up these addresses and tell me the distance between the two? I've tried looking online, but can't locate Cowan's Close. thank you...kathleen

Hello, I am new to this list and my interests are: Henry WHYTE, born Edinburgh 1836 to Thomas and Elizabeth (nee YOUNG(ER)) Ann MILLIGAN, born Edinburgh 1834 to William and Catherine (nee CARLISLE/CARLYLE) I would be pleased to hear from anyone researching the ancestors of the above. Many thanks. Brian

I am trying to find information on James Ritchie whom was married to Isabella ( uncertain Hickey). Their son William was born 1819 Edinburgh came to Australia in 1841 as a single person. He gave his fathers occupation as an editor, it has been passed down through the family as being connected to "The Scotsman", but I can not find information to prove this even though it was William Ritchie whom I believe started the paper. Helen

Hi Everyone, I am looking for a Thomas HENDERSON who married Isabella TINLINE on 29 August 1854. Isabella was born 1830 at Melrose, Roxburgh. Their marriage banns stated that his address was 9, East Sciennes in the Parish of St. Cuthberts. The banns did not state his age or who his father was. Thomas and Isabella were married at Bowden, Roxburgh. His date of death was 29 january 1875 aged 40. He died at Elswick, Northumberland and his occupation was Joiner. Hie was listed on the 1861 Census at Elswick, Northumberland. His eldest son George was born at Carnegie Street, Edinburgh on 29 July 1856. I am trying to find his date of birth and who his parents were. Can anyone please help me? Regards, Christopher _________________________________________________________________ It's Hotmail's 10th Birthday! Come and play Pass the Parcel http://www.msnpasstheparcel.com

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Is anyone researching the Serright/Terright/Sivewright and Cleghorn families who lived in or near Edinburgh. Particularly interested in a marriage c. 1769 of Esther Cleghorn to Captain John Westgarth who was born in Co Durham. Thanks George H Westgarth, Chester, UK

Hello Edinburgh Listmembers, I have struck a brick wall in researching my wife's family. They appear in the 1891 Census: 2 Caledonian Cottages, West Coates, Edinburgh George Gilfillan, Head, Mar., 41, Boiler Maker, Canongate, Edinburgh Margaret Gilfillan, wife, 43, Kirkaldy, Fifeshire Catherine Gilfillan, daur, Umarr., 17, Buttonhole Puncher, Leith, Edinburgh Mary Gilfillan, daur, 12, Scholar, Glasgow, Lanarkshire (born 28 July 1878, Springburn, Dennistoun) Margaret Gilfillan, daur, 10, Scholar, Glasgow, Lanarkshire Agnes Gilfillan, daur, 7, Scholar, Glasgow, Lanarkshire Georgina Gilfillan, daur, 4, St Cuthbert's, Edinburgh William Gilfillan, son, 5mths, St Cuthbert's, Edinburgh In 1881, given the above information, they were probably living in or near Glasgow but I could not find them, even trying name variations etc. (I have also searched for them in England and U.S.) Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks, John Johnston

Interested in any info or contact with descendants of the family of Alexander FINDLATER and Mary SHIVAS - moved from Ellon, ABD to Edinburgh in 1870s, he d. Edinburgh 1886. Known children are: Robert b 1852 m Annie TAYLOR (son Robert J, dau Mary A); Helen b 1854; Christina b 1857; William 1859-1900 m Margaret SIM; Thomas b 1861 m #1 Ellen CAMPBELL had dau Ellen, m #2 1900 Margaret PROUDFOOT; Jane b 1864 m Robert FOSTER, blacksmith; Lizzie b 1867 m William DONALDSON, blacksmith, had 4 daughters; Mary Ann b 1875. father Alexander was a firewood merchant; his sons carried on as coal merchants into 20th century. Family lived on Dalry Road and adjacent streets (Caledonian Place, Downsfield Place, Henderson Terrace). Nancy (Findlater) Cutway Kingston, Ontario, Canada

John, My great grandfather, John Kirby b. 1843 in Yorkshire, England was a sailor before settling in the areas of Greenock and Edinburgh. How would I go about finding when he settled and his history before he did. He was in Greenock in 1880 and moved to Edinburgh in about 1885. Thank you for your help. Carolyn - Utah, USA

Hello List, James Paxton born 6, March 1885 he was the son of James Thomas Collier Paxton and Christina Cunningham, Ritchie Rodger James was their eldest son and my Grandfather William Rodger Paxton was their youngest son born 4, January 1897 at 55, Market Street, Musselburgh, Inveresk, Midlothian, Scotland. James Paxton was a Golf Ball Maker Born in Musselburgh. on the 1901 Census living at Flat/Room 8 At 198, Causeway Cide/Side Norwals? Place, Newington, Edinburgh James Paxton married Elizabeth Flemming On 14, July 1911 at 11, Church Street, Kilsyth, Scotland. Did they have any children? Do anyone know any information on these people please? Are they in your tree, if so please contact me. Thank you in advance for any information I might receive. Kind Regards Pam Groves

Thank you Richard - I found Thomas ROBERTSON and his siblings, as well as another Robertson family on my father's side - a bonus! Katherine Vair Paterson (in response to...) Message: 3 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 16:56:34 -0500 From: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Wholesale Confectioner/Robertson To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original ----- Original Message ----- From: "Katherine Paterson" <[email protected]> > snip Thomas R. ROBERTSON was born in Selkirkshire about 1836. He and his > brothers Gideon, George, William and Alexander are all listed as > "confectioners" on the various records I have found in the Ontario > Archives. I believe they emigrated with their parents around the same > time as my ancestors. > snip Katherine: I believe your Thomas ROBERTSON was born 11 Sep 1838, in Selkirk, Selkirk, the son of Jessie RUTHERFORD and Thomas ROBERTSON. To see the rest of the family, go to www.scotsfind.org and open the Robertson Scottish Birth & Baptism database sorted by families (i.e., mother's surname). Richard Robertson

G'day List I have Hugh McKENZIE and Elizabeth DOW marrying in Edinburgh on Feb. 4th 1788. They had 5 children, including twins, all born in Edinburgh between 1788 and 1793. I have not been able to find Hugh's birth or death. It has been suggested that his family may have come from the Applecross/Lochcarron area. Does anyone one have a connection or any suggestions? Cheers........Bob in Oz

I have a William AITKEN ( wife Mary KYD) who is described as a baker on his son.s 1855 marriage certificate if any one can find a connection. Regards, Warwick ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 7:01 PM Subject: SCT-EDINBURGH Digest, Vol 1, Issue 46 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: AITKEN - was Morningside Cemetery (Cyndy Cotton) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 14:07:51 +0000 > From: "Cyndy Cotton" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] AITKEN - was Morningside Cemetery > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > Hi Nancy > > Thanks for getting touch. I'm not aware of a AITKEN/FERGUSON connection, but > it's not out of the question that I had a confectioner in that family around > that time. My ggg-grandmother Janet AITKEN was a Shopkeeper/Grocer in Home > Street in the 1800's (she died in Lauriston Place in 1895). One of her > grandsons, another Thomas AITKEN (born 1889), was apparantly a grocer > somewhere. Some other names that I know of in the early 1900's include > Thomas, James, Samuel, Adam and Alexander. Do you have any more information > about your confectioner, an address or anything? > > Cyndy > > ------------------- Original Message --------------------------------------- > Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 18:06:43 -0500 > From: "Nancy Duffy" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Morningside Cemetery - Thomas Aitken > To: <[email protected]> > > Dear Cyndy > > I also have a Aitken in my family tree. Agnes Ferguson married a Aitken who > was a confectioner in Edinburgh during the 1920. > > Do you have anyone in you Aitken tree that may match. Sorry, not much info > to go on. > > Nancy Duffy > Canada > > _________________________________________________________________ > Fixing up the home? Live Search can help > http://imagine-windowslive.com/search/kits/default.aspx?kit=improve&locale=en-US&source=hmemailtaglinenov06&FORM=WLMTAG > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the SCT-EDINBURGH list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the SCT-EDINBURGH mailing list, send an email to [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of SCT-EDINBURGH Digest, Vol 1, Issue 46 > ******************************************** > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.6/536 - Release Date: 11/16/06 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.11/543 - Release Date: 11/20/06

I would appreciate contact with anyone who has information on the following: Violet HENDERSON was the daughter of Donald HENDERSON and Ann AITCHISON John Kirby Henderson b. 19 June 1880, Greenock, Renfrewshire Andrew Geddes Henderson b. 27 April 1883, Royal Maternity Hospital, Edinburgh Charles George-Gordon Henderson b. 1 Mar 1885, Abbey Hill, Edinburgh Edward Boyce m 11 Oct 1887, Mevaugh, Rosguill, Donegal, Ireland Patrick William Boyce b 19 August 1888, Inveresk, Edinburgh d. 27 Mar 1890, West Calder, Edinburgh Edward Boyce b. 23 Oct 1890, West Calder, Edinburgh d. 26 May 1891, West Calder, Edinburgh Thank you in advance. cw

Hi Nancy Thanks for getting touch. I'm not aware of a AITKEN/FERGUSON connection, but it's not out of the question that I had a confectioner in that family around that time. My ggg-grandmother Janet AITKEN was a Shopkeeper/Grocer in Home Street in the 1800's (she died in Lauriston Place in 1895). One of her grandsons, another Thomas AITKEN (born 1889), was apparantly a grocer somewhere. Some other names that I know of in the early 1900's include Thomas, James, Samuel, Adam and Alexander. Do you have any more information about your confectioner, an address or anything? Cyndy ------------------- Original Message --------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 18:06:43 -0500 From: "Nancy Duffy" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Morningside Cemetery - Thomas Aitken To: <[email protected]> Dear Cyndy I also have a Aitken in my family tree. Agnes Ferguson married a Aitken who was a confectioner in Edinburgh during the 1920. Do you have anyone in you Aitken tree that may match. Sorry, not much info to go on. Nancy Duffy Canada _________________________________________________________________ Fixing up the home? Live Search can help http://imagine-windowslive.com/search/kits/default.aspx?kit=improve&locale=en-US&source=hmemailtaglinenov06&FORM=WLMTAG