Susan, Thank you for taking the time to answer my mesage. I have previously, unsuccesfully, searched Scotlandspeople, the OPR's, and almost every research facility available for information on David Bennett and his family. I was hoping that someone may find information that I have missed. Best wishes, Barbara -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Susan Sent: Sunday, 17 December 2006 3:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SCT-EDINBURGH] David Bennett A preliminary search of the 1841 census for David Bennett pulled up no matches on Scotland's People specifying Edinburgh as a likely place/same specifying soundex. There were other matches for all counties. If you go to Scotland's People, register and log on you can search 1841 census to your heart's content. With more than one match for a David Bennett for all counties you'll need some specifics otherwise it will cost you in pay for view fees. If you have family information that will lead you to a specific county or parish you may have a chance. Susan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Would some kind person look up the 1841 Census of Edinburgh for me please? The people I am searching for are my Great Great Grandfather's mother & siblings. I have very little information on my gggrandfather, DAVID BENNETT, born 1821 (to date I have been unable to find a record of his birth) who was transported to Van Diemen's Land in 1839. The information given on the birth certificate of his first child states he was born in Edinburgh. The crime for which he was transported took place in Rose Street. JANET BENNETT probably aged about 44-45years ROBERT BENNETT b 1817 JANET BENNETT b 1818 JAMES BENNETT possibly b 1823/24 THOMAS BENNETT possibly b 1826 WILLIAM b 1833 Thanking you in advance, Barbara Australia
The person offering the photo did so on the Message Board. http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.eln.general/1381.2.1/mb.ashx To respond, click on the URL above and scroll down the thread to the message posted by "fnsclr" . Unfortunately, fnsclr is an anonymous poster and you cannot write them directly. However, please note that posting a message on this list will NOT get to fnsclr. And "[email protected]" is not a working address; it is the address given to gatewayed messages as a substitute for the poster's address. You can read the new message boards announcement at http://bigfile.rootsweb.com/newsroom/?p=30 If you have comments to make about the new boards or the new gatewayed message format, please do so on the boards, not on this list. Thank you.
A preliminary search of the 1841 census for David Bennett pulled up no matches on Scotland's People specifying Edinburgh as a likely place/same specifying soundex. There were other matches for all counties. If you go to Scotland's People, register and log on you can search 1841 census to your heart's content. With more than one match for a David Bennett for all counties you'll need some specifics otherwise it will cost you in pay for view fees. If you have family information that will lead you to a specific county or parish you may have a chance. Susan
That's all right, I wrote for the enlightenment of all. Since however, I have received a mail off list from a lister, querying my point, I sincerely hope people will read all replies so that they know who is saying what. I know that a lot of people in genealogy lists only read the first couple of lines and delete mails that are not of interest. In time that becomes a habit, so that in an instance such as this it can become very much like Chinese whispers. ;-) Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "k c" <[email protected]> > Janet > > To you and to others who have written supporting me with more technical > definitions of webtv, I thank you. > > The person who is writing the offensive emails has clearly established > himself as less knowledgable than he claims to be. > > For the record webtv does not accept JAVA no matter what any website > claims. > > Kind Regards > Kathleen
The point is that you missed the point that to view images you have to load Java. http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/faqs/questions/index.aspx?206 Whilst with webtv web pages can be viewed, the user cannot instal anything. During the past year Scotland's People subscribers were having problems with the Java installation. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] 6 east rose street south side edinburgh On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 09:35:52 -0000, you wrote: >It's a question of choice and what one can afford. Quite. It is k c who has made the choice and set out on the research which she appears not to be willing to fund from whatever means she has. >Also, without streaming media it would be impossible to view images. > I am not sure what you are writing about here. It is my understanding that the faster the link to the internet the better streaming media will work .Even with a slow link it will work but the better wat is viewed will be slow and jerky. Scotlandspeople only has still images about 50 kb in size. Even the slowest link downloads these with no problem. >I don't think webtv has that feature yet. The point is that the webtv web site clearly states that it can access web sites. The previous posting from k c clearly indicate that she has access to web site and has viewed them
It's a question of choice and what one can afford. Also, without streaming media it would be impossible to view images. I don't think webtv has that feature yet. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> That's strange as at http://www.webtv.com/pc/experience/web_more.asp it claims "MSN TV service makes it easy for you to access the Web-we have several plans to suit your needs"
Janet To you and to others who have written supporting me with more technical definitions of webtv, I thank you. The person who is writing the offensive emails has clearly established himself as less knowledgable than he claims to be. For the record webtv does not accept JAVA no matter what any website claims. Kind Regards Kathleen
On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:44:00 -0500, you wrote: >I cant access Scotlands People with webtv. kathleen > That's strange as at http://www.webtv.com/pc/experience/web_more.asp it claims "MSN TV service makes it easy for you to access the Webwe have several plans to suit your needs" -- Regards David
Webtv has less memory capacity than other internet access and is therefore limited in its capabilities; hence, why I cannot access Scotlands People. If you sign up for Webtv yourself you will get a better working knowledge of what it can and cannot do.
Are you trying to avoid Scotland's People's site? That is where the images can be found. It's free to register, and a nominal fee to view the actual images... Leslie k c wrote: > To June Duncan > > I started this discussion re Rose st where my gg grandmother had a > lodging house in the 1851 and 1861 census. She was specifically located > at 6 east rose st south side. I do not have access to the images of > those census only the typed material on Ancestry.com. > > Can anyone out there with access to the images of this location be able > to email me those pages 1841 through 1861? > > I must admit that I have never seen the words brothelkeeper or > prostitute on any census page. My gggm lodgers were tradespeople: > joiners, saddlers, carpenters, waiters, her son, an accountant and her > few daughters. > > How does one locate an exact address on the census? > > I am really, truly looking for an accurate portrayal of what went on at > 6 east rose st. south side in 1841 to 1861. > > regards...kathleen > > June Ducan wrote: > > it's been a while since i transcribed that part of the 1841 but if > memory is correct it was at the register house end as it also covered > canal st which is now waverly station etc. The enumerator had written > lodging house keeper on numerous occasions and it had been scored out > and brothel keeper written. also lots of ladies had occupation as > dressmaker and this was also scored out and prostitute written. You'd > have to look at the original OPR film to get the exact house street > numbers > June Duncan wrote: > > I helped transcribed the 1841 census and Rose st was part of the area I > did. There were certainly lots of brothel keepers and prostitutes in > 1841. I live in edinburgh and have never known Rose St to be the red > light area in the 70s. A couple of streets down from Rose St, Danube St, > was were the prostitutes hung out but that area has changed now and they > are nearer to Leith. not sure when rose St became 'respectable' but I > would have classed it as red light in 1841 time I have heard that Rose > street was at one time a red light district. Do you know enough about > Edinburgh to know at what point in history this occurred? > regards......kathleen > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >
Hi John if you look on Freecen and find names Agnes BARRY age 20 and look at household matilda MONTAGUE age 25 Joanne PATERSON age 30 I managed to find the spreadsheet with the 1841 part of Rose St that i did sorry if anyone is offended by the info<html><DIV><FONT face="Lucida Handwriting, Cursive" color=#660099>June <IMG height=12 src="http://graphics.hotmail.com/emsmile.gif" width=12></FONT></DIV></html> > From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 21:28:46 +0000> Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] 6 east rose street south side edinburgh> > Good evening Kathleen> > > > > I must admit that I have never seen the words brothelkeeper or> > prostitute on any census page. My gggm lodgers were tradespeople:> > joiners, saddlers, carpenters, waiters, her son, an accountant and her> > few daughters.> > This is why I got in touch with June as I hadn't seen the terms used !!> Have you looked at "Free-CEN " ?> http://freecen.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl> > I checked about twenty No's in Rose Street yeaterday and found nothing> > Regards> John> > John D. Stevenson> Edinburgh> [email protected] > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Be one of the first to try Windows Live Mail. http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionId=5d21c51a-b161-4314-9b0e-4911fb2b2e6d
I cant access Scotlands People with webtv. kathleen
Thankyou for this. Interesting to see how occupations, businesses , etc have changed over the years, including having a Saddlery, Bootmaker etc , only a block from Princes St ( But, Oh dear, Soho ? ) Must be a conspiracy here some where ! Mary where there is Summer at last in New Zealand ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] 111 Rose Street > On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 16:18:40 +1300, you wrote: > >>Carol, >>Thankyou very much, a very elegant sounding business, along way from a >>Saddlery & Boot makers business, or, in fact any of the other businesses >>that seem to be mentioned in the list in recent days. >>Mary >>> A quick google brought this up - >>> http://www.rockcandygallery.com/contactrockcandy.html >>> >>> Carol > and also > > > Soho Clothing > 111 Rose Street > Edinburgh > EH2 3DT > telephone: > 0131-226 5366 > > David
Whatever did I put into my message to imply that I was offended ? I was making an observation , about the differences between , it seemed a recent apparently rather elegant Gallery & a Saddler bootmaker shop, in early 1900 ' s and the possible other less salubrious occupations . Believe me, if you could see, my family tree, even in more recent times I have nothing to be offended about, with any occupation. All from my own & other family research. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "k c" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 2:37 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] 111 Rose Street > To Mary, > Re the discussions on Rose Street. We are all trying to research our > ancestry and sometimes we find pirates and sometimes we find kings. I > am trying to find an accurate and precise image of my gggm and I do not > want to smear her name with inaccuracies; hence, the discussion. I > apologize if the discussion has offended you or any other person on this > list. But the list is supposed to be for research. > Kathleen > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
To anyone living in Edinburgh: can you tell me what is at 6 east rose street south side today? Is it a private residence? Thank you. Regards...kathleen
Carol, Thankyou very much, a very elegant sounding business, along way from a Saddlery & Boot makers business, or, in fact any of the other businesses that seem to be mentioned in the list in recent days. Mary ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 3:43 PM >< Does anyone know what is at 111 Rose St now ? > When in Edinburgh, I forgot to find 111 Rose St ., ( so many things, & > places to find , ) I did , however go to 8 Bright Terrace, about 7 years > ago.> > > A quick google brought this up - > http://www.rockcandygallery.com/contactrockcandy.html > > Carol
I cannot find the original e mail relating to Rose St., have been out of action for a few days. My Grandfather Alfred Simpson Dick, owned a Saddlers & Bootmaker shop , in Rose St., I have a photo with the men / workers outside & the Shop signage above. When he married ( Janet Montgomery ), in 1907. he lived at 111 Rose St., Edinburgh. I assume he may have been living above or behind the Shop. By July 1908, my Father was born at 8 Bright Terrace, Edinburgh. Does anyone know what is at 111 Rose St now ? When in Edinburgh, I forgot to find 111 Rose St ., ( so many things, & places to find , ) I did , however go to 8 Bright Terrace, about 7 years ago. Mary New Zealand. ----- Original Message ----- From: "k c" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 10:07 AM Subject: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Rose St Edinburgh > Thank you to everyone who responded to my requests for a map of Rose St > and for information with regard to its history. > > The general consensus is that the street was a red light district from > the late 1800s to about 1970 or so. > > My great-great grandmother ran a lodging house there after her husband > died according to the 1851 and 1861 census.
Seeking information on Annie Reid, who gave her age as 23yrs in 1870 (b. C1847) born in Edinburgh, Scotland. She gave birth to a daughter also named Annie Reid in Melbourne Australia on 30th October 1870. The child spend a lot of time being reared by an Ellen Rogers. Annie Snr gave no details of the father of the child on Annie Jnrs birth certificate. On Annie Jnrs marriage certificate her father was stated as John Reid with the name Smith written underneath. I feel this may be a 'cover up' as the father maybe unknown BUT I could be wrong. Annie Snr stated her maiden name was Annie Reid on the birth certificate for Annie Jnr. Family 'story' has it that she was pregnant to the son of the house and fled to Australia and at some stage her family advertised in a Melbourne newspaper for her but she did not wish to contact them. Neither of these have been proven. I have not been able to find any records for Annie Snr in Australia. I have the information for Annie Jnr Carol
On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 16:18:40 +1300, you wrote: >Carol, >Thankyou very much, a very elegant sounding business, along way from a >Saddlery & Boot makers business, or, in fact any of the other businesses >that seem to be mentioned in the list in recent days. >Mary > >----- Original Message ----- >Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 3:43 PM > > >>< Does anyone know what is at 111 Rose St now ? >> When in Edinburgh, I forgot to find 111 Rose St ., ( so many things, & >> places to find , ) I did , however go to 8 Bright Terrace, about 7 years >> ago.> >> >> A quick google brought this up - >> http://www.rockcandygallery.com/contactrockcandy.html >> >> Carol and also Soho Clothing 111 Rose Street Edinburgh EH2 3DT telephone: 0131-226 5366 -- Regards David