Hello I am new to this list, recently I found my 6xGrandparents GEORGE MOSS & HELEN REID were married Edinburg March 1777, they were married by Chaplain of Regiment, Church of England, at this time he was in the 70th Regiment ( no further information on this ) would there be a marriage certificate ? or a record of the marriage any help appreciated Suzy [email protected]
G'day List Looking for anyone who may have a connection to a Hugh McKENZIE, travelling merchant, who married an Elizabeth DOW in Edinburgh on February 4th 1788. I know a bit about his family after 1788, but nothing prior, except that his "family may have come from Applecross/ Lochcarron in Ross and Cromarty" Hugh and Elizabeths children were, May, Helen, Elizabeth, Euphemia and Hugh, all born in Edinburgh between 1788 and 1793. [Euphemia and Hugh were twins] Any assistance would be gratefully appreciated Bob in Oz
Here's a couple of links, Jo. Regards Brian http://www.edinburghonline.co.uk/info/13415/ and http://www.google.co.uk/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en&q=Trades+Maiden+Hospital&meta=cr%3DcountryUK%7CcountryGB&btnG=Google+Search At 15:14 09/01/2007, you wrote: >Does anyone know if any records still exist from the mid-1800s for the >"Trades Maiden Hospital for the Education of the Children and Grandchildren >of Burgesses"? > >I have discovered a relative, Mary JOHNSTON, who was one of 2 governesses >there in both the 1851 and 1861 censuses. > >Jo > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Does anyone know if any records still exist from the mid-1800s for the "Trades Maiden Hospital for the Education of the Children and Grandchildren of Burgesses"? I have discovered a relative, Mary JOHNSTON, who was one of 2 governesses there in both the 1851 and 1861 censuses. Jo
Do you know any more about your Mary Tait? . I have an 1851 census record where one Mary Tait - too old to have been your maternal grandmother - was described as a Lodger to the Head of the Household, unmarried, aged 20, Power Loom Weaver, born Leith, Midlothian. I'm wondering if there might be an ancestral connection for you. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelly Tyler" <[email protected]> >I know I am rather late in writing this, but I just had to let whoever wrote > the response to the request for information re Rose Street know how much I > enjoyed your memories. Your words painted pictures in my mind. Thank you. > By the way, I live in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. My interest in Edinburgh > is because my maternal grandmother, Mary Tait, was originally from > Portobello and came to Canada in 1928 aboard the good ship the Montclare. > She married a little over a year later, had four girls and died on May 27th, > 1942 in Calgary, Alberta. My mother's life after that brought her to > Edmonton, Alberta, where I have lived the entire 53 years and four months of > my life. > > Again, thanks for the memories. You paint beautiful pictures when you > write, and I would love to hear more of your stories. Do you have any > memories of the beautiful, scenic and picturesque Portobello? > > Sincerely, > Ms. Kelly Tyler
I know I am rather late in writing this, but I just had to let whoever wrote the response to the request for information re Rose Street know how much I enjoyed your memories. Your words painted pictures in my mind. Thank you. By the way, I live in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. My interest in Edinburgh is because my maternal grandmother, Mary Tait, was originally from Portobello and came to Canada in 1928 aboard the good ship the Montclare. She married a little over a year later, had four girls and died on May 27th, 1942 in Calgary, Alberta. My mother's life after that brought her to Edmonton, Alberta, where I have lived the entire 53 years and four months of my life. Again, thanks for the memories. You paint beautiful pictures when you write, and I would love to hear more of your stories. Do you have any memories of the beautiful, scenic and picturesque Portobello? Sincerely, Ms. Kelly Tyler -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 3:21 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] 1851 street map of Edinburh On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 12:42:47 -0500, you wrote: >Thank you Chris for that information. I will try the website. > >I have heard that Rose street was at one time a red light district. Do >you know enough about Edinburgh to know at what point in history this >occurred? I write as someone who was born and brought up half a mile from Edinburgh's West End and knew it fairly well between 1945 and 1971 before I left to live in London. To me a red light district is one where the vice trade is openly on display. The obvious signs of such a trade are illuminated doorbells with the notice along the lines "Attractive Model Upstairs" as in Soho, London or ladies hanging out windows as in Amsterdam. To my knowledge these have never applied in Rose Street, at least post war. Unless anyone knows differently of course! Rose Street contained, and still does, many public houses and eating places. No doubt there could be found some measure of a vice trade in such a popular street, as in many such popular streets in many similar cities but the legend of Rose Street derives overwhelmingly from the pubs. Few people could have a drink in every Rose Street pub in one night but many tried. To some that was reason enough to avoid the place. I can recall as a youth thinking that other specific places in Edinburgh had similar colourful reputations. [The Shore, Leith springs to mind but again the trade was never openly on display to the extent that the term red light district could reasonably apply.] The sight of certain Edinburgh bars/dance halls/ and the hill in Princes Street Gardens when the US fleet [and on many occasions ships from many other countries] had anchored in the Forth and the crews were in town lives with me to this day. To watch the US Navy shore patrols at work was a sight to be seen - boy the batons they carried were so much larger than the truncheons used by "the Edinburgh Polis". [UK sailors were of course always perfect gentlemen when in town and never gave any trouble ;-)] These were guys visiting a beautiful city and meeting beautiful girls and everyone having a good time. Was there a vice trade - well there must have been but where isn't there in the circumstances. Even when the fleets were not in town you could always find the action in Edinburgh at the weekends where airmen from the nearby USA Kirknewton airbase came to town to party. The places frequented [eg The Berkeley in Lothian Road because unusually it had a dance floor] certainly had reputations of where to go to meet girls. I remember bumping into my father and uncle when I came out of one late one evening with a girl. At least I had gone there with the same girl with me in the first place but it still caused considerable comment from both of them later on. Sorry to have gone on a bit but just wanted to give you my impressions and recollections of Rose Street. I have ancestors who lived in Rose Street in 1910. They married into a family named Baldo who had a restaurant there. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.21/589 - Release Date: 12/15/2006
Hello List, Please could someone tell me if they have this couple in their tree. Elizabeth Paxton was my Grandfather William Rodger Paxton's sister. Elizabeth/ Betsy Sharp Paxton married William McAndrew on 18, September 1908 at St, Columba's Church, Edinburgh, Scotland. William was born at 27, Blackfriars Street, Edinburgh. on the 21, November 1888. Betsy Sharp/Elizabeth Paxton was born 15 Oct 1889 in Fisherrow, Musselburgh, Midlothian, Scotland. Elizabeth/Betsy Sharp Paxton was the daughter of James Paxton and Christina Cunningham, Ritchie Rodger. Any connections out there please. Thank you in advance for any information I might receive. Kind regards Pamela J Groves
Hi, Angela. I don't know the surname patience, but I do know the surname Brass. I work for the City of Edmonton in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada; and one of the fellows who works for Roadway Maintenance is named Brass. Do you know if you have any relatives in Canada? Ms. Kelly Tyler -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Angela Brass Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 10:02 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Surname PATIENCE Hi Everyone I have just added the surname Patience to my tree Details are George Patience/Susan ? Surname not readable Daughter Elspeth born abt 1899 age according to marriage certificate. Living 21 Hill Street Edinburgh in 1921 also there is a Ella Patience who is a wittness at the wedding. wedding details are as follows John Potter Mcpherson age 23 address 12 ? Edinburgh Parents John Mcpherson/Mary Gilbert Potter Elspeth patience age 22 address 21 Hill Street Edinburgh Parents George Patience/susan ? if anyone has anything on this family please get in contact as i dont have anything else on them Regards Angela _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail is evolving check out the new Windows Live Mail http://ideas.live.com
I have some "not-readables" in my tree too, I wonder if they are related to yours <grin> Sadly my family say I have no Patience Liz >Hi Everyone >I have just added the surname Patience to my tree >Details are > >George Patience/Susan ? Surname not readable > >Daughter Elspeth born abt 1899 age according to marriage certificate. >Living 21 Hill Street Edinburgh in 1921 also there is a Ella Patience who >is a wittness at the wedding. > >wedding details are as follows > >John Potter Mcpherson age 23 address 12 ? Edinburgh Parents John >Mcpherson/Mary Gilbert Potter >Elspeth patience age 22 address 21 Hill Street Edinburgh Parents George >Patience/susan ? > >if anyone has anything on this family please get in contact as i dont have >anything else on them > >Regards > > >Angela _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail is evolving check out the new Windows Live Mail http://ideas.live.com
Hi Everyone I have just added the surname Patience to my tree Details are George Patience/Susan ? Surname not readable Daughter Elspeth born abt 1899 age according to marriage certificate. Living 21 Hill Street Edinburgh in 1921 also there is a Ella Patience who is a wittness at the wedding. wedding details are as follows John Potter Mcpherson age 23 address 12 ? Edinburgh Parents John Mcpherson/Mary Gilbert Potter Elspeth patience age 22 address 21 Hill Street Edinburgh Parents George Patience/susan ? if anyone has anything on this family please get in contact as i dont have anything else on them Regards Angela _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail is evolving check out the new Windows Live Mail http://ideas.live.com
I have read recently that someone was looking for William Rutherford born 1846 in Edinburgh with family connections in Hull. Whilst doing my own Rutherford research, I have found the following on the 1871 Census in England. William Ruthereford marr. 25 Mate, born Edinburgh. He was on a Vessel in the West of Spurn, Yks. Could this be your man? Best Wishes, Anne in Bolton, Lancashire.
Good morning, Just discovered that my 2 x great grandfather was buried in Rosebank cemetery in Section F grave space 13 in 1929. Would SKS be able to check that location and see if there is a headstone which may list more than James ? Thank you in advance, Heather in sunny and snowy Montreal
no, he would be an 'out pensioner'. there were no 'OAPs' at that date because there was no 'old age pension' as such. Judy On 31 Dec 2006, at 12:26, Dorothy Stewart wrote: > I am guessing this actually means OAP of GREENWICH
Pity about it not being GUNN, their tartan is really lovely, my Williamson's are a sept of GUNN and I wear their tartan Hope you fine her anyway Liz in Stockport >A long shot was the 1851 Census transcription of Gunnfunde. I thought it >could be William Rutherford with a daughter Isabella. I have found the >family on the 1851 Census on Scotland's People and the family were - GUNN. >The head of the household was Mrs. Gunn (female) and had been transcribed >as William Gunnfunde, so that is another family I can cross of my list. > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail is evolving check out the new Windows Live Mail http://ideas.live.com
I would just like to thank all those who offered advice on my search to find my great grandmother Isabella Rutherford, born 1846 Edinburgh/Paisley, father William Rutherford, Coachman or illegitimate). I have tried most of the suggestions. I have spent the morning on Scotland's People, without success. A long shot was the 1851 Census transcription of Gunnfunde. I thought it could be William Rutherford with a daughter Isabella. I have found the family on the 1851 Census on Scotland's People and the family were - GUNN. The head of the household was Mrs. Gunn (female) and had been transcribed as William Gunnfunde, so that is another family I can cross of my list. I tried entering Rutherford, female, born 1846, without a first name, as someone suggested. The only likely one was Augusta Isabella Rutherford, born 1846, father William, mother Isabella nee King. William was born in Roxburgh and Isabella King was born in Edinburgh and the family were living in Argyll. When I found them, they also had a daughter Isabella, but she was born in 1841 in Argyll. Another family to cross out. I am running out of ideas. Kind regards, Anne in Bolton.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Stewart" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 7:26 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] DIED IN EDINBURGH & SERVEC IN 26TH FOOTREGIMENTIN GIBRALTAR > > Another question if I might although it is "Navy?" related. I have from > the > 1851 Census in Devon England my 4x great grandfather shown as > BENJAMIN JEWELL 87 FATHER-IN-LAW PAUPER OAT PENSION OF GREENWICK > BORN - ASHBURTON We have JEWELLs in the Ashburton North Devon area, within our family lines too. My 4 x g-grandparents were Richard MILL and Ann JEWELL married at Bideford 4th May 1796. Was it you Dorothy who made mention of the LITTLEJOHN(S) surname? We have it also, in North Devon. If you think we may have a connection, please contact me off-[this]list. Toni ~ Ontario
Good morning, Just discovered that my 2 x great grandfather was buried in Rosebank cemetery in Section F grave space 13 in 1929. Would SKS be able to check that location and see if there is a headstone which may list more than James ? Thank you in advance, Heather in sunny and snowy Montreal
THANK YOU Forrest for the options as to how to get the information on my family member SAMUEL FORREST. I will try the National Archives on line first and see if I can get copies of the papers and if not will order film from local LDS. I noticed the name FORREST ANDERSON and I am just curious as I have an ELIZABETH FORREST who married a DAVID ANDERSON IN 1812 in EDINBURGH. Do you think there might be a connection between our lines? Another question if I might although it is "Navy?" related. I have from the 1851 Census in Devon England my 4x great grandfather shown as BENJAMIN JEWELL 87 FATHER-IN-LAW PAUPER OAT PENSION OF GREENWICK BORN - ASHBURTON I am guessing this actually means OAP of GREENWICH and on his application for poor relief in Ashburton in 1815 he states "then went to Sea and was at Sea or in Newfoundland" Do you think possibly he was in the navy and that he in 1851 was getting an Old Age Pension from them and if so do you know of a way to see if so are there any papers one could get to tell more about his life at sea? I looked him up on the A2A but they only list the SETTLEMENT PAPERS which I already have from the Devon Records Office. Thank you again for responding to my enquiry. Please let me know regarding possible connection of family lines as one never knows when or how a connection might be made. Also any suggestions regarding BENJAMIN JEWELL will be appreciated. All the best for 2007 Dorothy Stewart -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf of Forrest Anderson Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 2:56 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] DIED IN EDINBURGH & SERVEC IN 26TH FOOTREGIMENT IN GIBRALTAR On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 14:17:06 -0500, "Dorothy Stewart" <[email protected]> wrote: >I am looking for a family member SAMUEL FORREST who I understand >from family letters died in Edinburgh around 1830 - 1831. Is there any way >to find out if this is correct without knowing where in Edinburgh he lived? >From the A2A I found a listing for him saying he had SERVED IN GARRISON >STAFF GILBRALTAR, 26TH FOOT REGIMENT and was discharged in 1825. I >understand that these records are held by the NATIONAL ARCHIVES at Kew. Is >there anyone out there who goes to Kew who could make copies for me if I >give them the REEFERENCE NO'S? The record you have found is the following set of Discharge Documents listed in the National Archives' on-line catalogue at http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/search.asp WO 97/1174/233 SAMUEL FORREST Born CARLUCH, Lanarkshire Served in Garrison Staff Gibraltar; 26th Foot Regiment Discharged aged 41 Covering date gives year of discharge. Covering Dates: 1825 Although this record is on microfilm at Kew, it is also held by the LDS and is available through their Family History Library system. You can therefore order it via their worldwide network of Family History Centres. The FHL catalogue is at http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp and the film you want is described as: -------------- Title: Soldiers documents : service documents of soldiers, containing particulars of age, birthplace and trade or occupation on enlistment, a record of service, including any decorations and the reason for discharge to pension, 1760-1872 Author: Great Britain. War Office Notes: Microfilm of original records in the Public Record Office, London. For the period l760-1854 the documents are arranged by regiments, including Militia. WO 97. Volume 1174 Royal Staff Corps; various recruiting staffs: Clarke-Frost, 1760-1854 FHL BRITISH Film 861847 -------------- Notice how the Volume number (1174) in the LDS description and the WO 97 in the LDS film notes match the WO 97/1174 part of the National Archives reference. The last part of the NA reference (233) indicates the position of the record on the film. Alternatively, since you now know the reference of the file (WO 97/1174/233) you should be able to request an estimate from the National Archives to send you a copy. See the following for instructions: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/legal/recordcopying.htm http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help/copies.htm Forrest -- Forrest Anderson, Edinburgh, Scotland. E-mail: [email protected] Website: www.military-researcher.com Forrestdale Research - Military Genealogical Researcher ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi June, Great minds think alike. I was having a look on Genes Reunited this morning and I saw Peter Abbott b. 1855. Mine was born in 1839 in Walton-le-Dale/Penwortham near Preston. I couldn't see one born about 1840. I will probably contact the people who have Isabella Rutherford in their family. Many thanks, Anne in Bolton. ----- Original Message ----- From: "June Duncan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] PLEASE CAN SOMEONE HELP - RUTHERFORD > Hiya > > have you registered on the genesreunited.co.uk site? > there's a couple of people that have isabella Rutherford b 1846 ish > Scotland/ Edin/ fife in their tree. > also someone with Peter Abbott born Lancs 1840 > > might be worth getting in touch with them cos it might be a link that > you're looking for. > good luck<html><DIV><FONT face="Lucida Handwriting, Cursive" > color=#660099>June <IMG height=12 > src="http://graphics.hotmail.com/emsmile.gif" > width=12></FONT></DIV></html> > > > >> > _________________________________________________________________ > Be one of the first to try Windows Live Mail. > http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionId=5d21c51a-b161-4314-9b0e-4911fb2b2e6d > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.0/609 - Release Date: 29/12/2006 > 16:48 > >
Hiya have you registered on the genesreunited.co.uk site? there's a couple of people that have isabella Rutherford b 1846 ish Scotland/ Edin/ fife in their tree. also someone with Peter Abbott born Lancs 1840 might be worth getting in touch with them cos it might be a link that you're looking for. good luck<html><DIV><FONT face="Lucida Handwriting, Cursive" color=#660099>June <IMG height=12 src="http://graphics.hotmail.com/emsmile.gif" width=12></FONT></DIV></html> > _________________________________________________________________ Be one of the first to try Windows Live Mail. http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionId=5d21c51a-b161-4314-9b0e-4911fb2b2e6d