On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 08:59:52 +1300, "Sandra and Norm" <[email protected]> wrote: >Could SKS tell what an occupation in 1851 called saigeant (sergeant) C J Services would be please.?? Although the letters aren't similar, is there any chance that it says H M Services (Her Majesty's Services)? Forrest -- Forrest Anderson, Edinburgh, Scotland. E-mail: [email protected] Website: www.military-researcher.com Forrestdale Research - Military Genealogical Researcher

Hello I am looking for Margaret Ella Graham bc 1851 in Edinburgh. I would like her birthdate and parents names. Not sure if she made it to the 1851 census, but could SKS look at the 1861 census PLEASE Dont know the area. She sailed to Australia married Mr Bird she remarried in New Zealand 1881 to Thomas Gardiner Robinson. Thanks a million Sandra in NZ

A shot in the dark - County Jail Services? But they might have spelt Jail 'Gaol'. Elizabeth Dods [email protected] On 16-Jan-07, at 2:59 PM, Sandra and Norm wrote: > Hello > > Could SKS tell what an occupation in 1851 called saigeant > (sergeant) C J Services would be please.?? > > Is it anything to do with army or navy? > > Sandra in NZ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-EDINBURGH- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Ancestry has it mistranscribed. It's Buccleuch St. Subject to changes in street numbering, this is where he lived. http://www.estates.ed.ac.uk/BuildingInfo/NewProfiles/ 0268-12BuccleuchStreet.html Judy On 14 Jan 2007, at 02:31, Anne Hanson wrote: > 12 Beuccleuch > St. In 1861 he lived at 5 So(uth?) College Street.

Good Afternoon, My name is Anne and I am new to this list. I live in Beechworth in N.E. Victoria, Australia. I would very much like to make contact with the descendants of Peter & Christina STEWART. Their details are as follows: STEWART Peter - Born 20 Jan 1811 Kenmore, Perth, Scotland to James & Cathrine STEWART (nee FISHER) Peter's Wife was FISHER Christina, born about Abt. 1813 Kenmore, Perth, Scotland Their children were (as far as I know) Jessie born Abt. 1834 Edinburgh arrived in Victoria, Australia , 1854 and married PUGH William Thomas in 1859 Elizabeth, Born 17 Nov 1835 Saint Cuthbert's, Edinburgh. Died 25 Oct 1867, Mansfield, Vic. Aust. married John MOORS at Beechworth, Vic. 1862 James Born 15 Nov 1840 Saint Cuthbert's, Edinburgh In 1841 Peter STEWART was a letter carrier and lived at 7 Dunbar Street, Edinburgh. In 1851 he was still a letter carrier but lived at 12 Beuccleuch St. In 1861 he lived at 5 So(uth?) College Street. Thank you. Anne Hanson -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.10/625 - Release Date: 13/01/2007 5:40 PM

THANK YOU everyone for all the discussion and information that has been sent to me that came out of my enquiry for 1851 census information on him. I have learned a great deal and now just have to find 100% proof that his grandparents and my 5x great grandparents are one in the same. Dorothy

Hello List, I would also be interested in any records of a military marriage between John MOSS and Mary ROBERTSON in Edinburgh. John Moss was stationed in Edinburgh when he married Mary Robertson about 1824. We have searched all the available records during our last visit to Edinburgh in 2004 without success. We think John may have been from England and Mary was from Kenmore Perthshire. John died before the 1841 census as Mary was listed a widow in Auctherarder Perthshire. Linda, Hamilton, Canada _________________________________________________________________ Your opinion matters. Please tell us what you think and be entered into a draw for a grand prize of $500 or one of 20 $50 cash prizes. http://www.youthographyinsiders.com/R.aspx?a=116

I had a look at the Scotsman archive which seems to have quite a few references to the exhibition. From this and other references the statues seem to have been set up in sheds, inside the boundaries of the National Monument. My first thought was like yours, that Forrest was producing grave monuments but his main business seems to have been these big set piece sculptures. From the hits on the Scotsman site the statuary was sold off in 1853 - where is it now I wonder? Perhaps if someone has a current sub to the Scotsman Archive they can give us a bit more detail. Putting the words "Robert Forrest statuary" into google brings up a couple of PDFs which give details of the dates of the shed or sheds. This says that Forrest tried to give the statues to the council in.... 1853. This is the same date as the inventory on Scotland's People and most sources seem to agree that Forrest was dead by then. Its an intriguing story, not least because it seems the council battled for years to get rid of the various entertainments up on the hill. It has set me wondering where Forrests own grave might be. Judy On 13 Jan 2007, at 14:13, [email protected] wrote: > On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 15:27:42 +0000, you wrote: > >> The marble idea was neat but - Craigleith was I think the quarry for >> the New Town. Sandstone or limestone probably. >> >> http://silberstern.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/page6.html >> >> >> From the 1861 census entry, I wonder if Margaret was some kind of >> curator for the exhibition - was she still taking the sixpences. Her >> address might be something like National Monument Cottage - referring >> perhaps to that acropolis thingy up on Calton Hill? >> >> >> Judy >> > > I was think at the time of a guy described variously as: > 1890: Sculptor, 1891: Marble Mason, 1901: Monumental Sculptor when > living at: > 1890: 5 Summers Place, Edinburgh, 1891: 5 India Place, Edinburgh, > 1901: 16 Deanpark Street, Edinburgh. > > I suppose the thing to do is to have a look at the original census > page > > David > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-EDINBURGH- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 15:27:42 +0000, you wrote: >The marble idea was neat but - Craigleith was I think the quarry for >the New Town. Sandstone or limestone probably. > >http://silberstern.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/page6.html > > > From the 1861 census entry, I wonder if Margaret was some kind of >curator for the exhibition - was she still taking the sixpences. Her >address might be something like National Monument Cottage - referring >perhaps to that acropolis thingy up on Calton Hill? > > >Judy > I was think at the time of a guy described variously as: 1890: Sculptor, 1891: Marble Mason, 1901: Monumental Sculptor when living at: 1890: 5 Summers Place, Edinburgh, 1891: 5 India Place, Edinburgh, 1901: 16 Deanpark Street, Edinburgh. I suppose the thing to do is to have a look at the original census page David

Hi Dorothy, 1851 parish no. 685/1 parish St. Andrew, Edinburgh address Calton Hill Robert Forrest, head, mar, 60, Sculptor Arbul, brn Carluke Lanarkshire Margaret Forrest, wife, mar, 49, brn Carluke Lanarkshire Ann Doberty, general servant, 18, brn Ireland 1861 parish Greenside, Edinburgh no. 685/2 address Nationdmon Cottage occupation Coachibilog of Statuary Margaret Forrest, head, 55, brn Carluke Lanarkshire Marion Mayne, general servant, 19, brn Greenside Edinburgh If you don't have the 1881 census, get back to me and we'll see if she's still alive or remarried, etc. from Catherine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Stewart" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 7:53 PM Subject: [SCT-EDINBURGH] 1851 CENSUS LOOK UP PLEASE >I am looking for a possible family connection and was hoping someone might > have the 1851 census of EDINBURGH and could check please and see if there > is > a listing for a ROBERT FORREST, SCULPTOR approx age 40 and his wife > MARGARET > approx age 45. I THINK he died at CARLTON HILL, EDINBURGH as there is a > listing on the free part of SP for an INVENTORY & SETTLEMEMT in 1853. I > found the 1841 census info on FreeCen and although the 1851 is also > supposed > to be there I could not find them. Thank you > > Dorothy > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.9/622 - Release Date: 1/10/2007 > >

thanks Judy Suzanne ----- Original Message ----- From: "judy olsen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Fw: Scottish Marriage > You dont give a source for your info so perhaps this will duplicate > what you already know. > > My first thought was that you are only going to find this in the > regimental records. But although this was not a marriage in the > established church, any other marriage would have had the banns read > in the parish church, perhaps soldiers were the same. according to > Wiki, the parish church for the Castle is the Canongate Kirk - even > though there are others much nearer. So I would look there for a > banns record. > > You can check out the regiment at www.regiments.org, > > > > Judy > > > > On 12 Jan 2007, at 08:08, Suzanne wrote: > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Suzanne >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 3:58 PM >> Subject: Scottish Marriage >> >> >> Hello I am new to this list, recently I found my 6xGrandparents >> GEORGE MOSS & HELEN REID were married Edinburg March 1777, they >> were married by Chaplain of Regiment, Church of England, at this >> time he was in the 70th Regiment ( no further information on this ) >> >> would there be a marriage certificate ? or a record of the marriage >> >> any help appreciated >> Suzy >> [email protected] >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-EDINBURGH- >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

----- Original Message ----- From: Suzanne To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 3:58 PM Subject: Scottish Marriage Hello I am new to this list, recently I found my 6xGrandparents GEORGE MOSS & HELEN REID were married Edinburg March 1777, they were married by Chaplain of Regiment, Church of England, at this time he was in the 70th Regiment ( no further information on this ) would there be a marriage certificate ? or a record of the marriage any help appreciated Suzy [email protected]

The marble idea was neat but - Craigleith was I think the quarry for the New Town. Sandstone or limestone probably. http://silberstern.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/page6.html From the 1861 census entry, I wonder if Margaret was some kind of curator for the exhibition - was she still taking the sixpences. Her address might be something like National Monument Cottage - referring perhaps to that acropolis thingy up on Calton Hill? Judy On 12 Jan 2007, at 13:09, Cci wrote: > Hi Dorothy, > 1851 > parish no. 685/1 > parish St. Andrew, Edinburgh > address Calton Hill > Robert Forrest, head, mar, 60, Sculptor Arbul, brn Carluke Lanarkshire > Margaret Forrest, wife, mar, 49, brn Carluke Lanarkshire > Ann Doberty, general servant, 18, brn Ireland > > 1861 > parish Greenside, Edinburgh > no. 685/2 > address Nationdmon Cottage > occupation Coachibilog of Statuary > Margaret Forrest, head, 55, brn Carluke Lanarkshire > Marion Mayne, general servant, 19, brn Greenside Edinburgh > > If you don't have the 1881 census, get back to me and we'll see if > she's > still alive or remarried, etc. > > from > Catherine > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dorothy Stewart" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 7:53 PM > Subject: [SCT-EDINBURGH] 1851 CENSUS LOOK UP PLEASE > > >> I am looking for a possible family connection and was hoping >> someone might >> have the 1851 census of EDINBURGH and could check please and see >> if there >> is >> a listing for a ROBERT FORREST, SCULPTOR approx age 40 and his wife >> MARGARET >> approx age 45. I THINK he died at CARLTON HILL, EDINBURGH as >> there is a >> listing on the free part of SP for an INVENTORY & SETTLEMEMT in >> 1853. I >> found the 1841 census info on FreeCen and although the 1851 is also >> supposed >> to be there I could not find them. Thank you >> >> Dorothy >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.9/622 - Release Date: >> 1/10/2007 >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-EDINBURGH- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

You dont give a source for your info so perhaps this will duplicate what you already know. My first thought was that you are only going to find this in the regimental records. But although this was not a marriage in the established church, any other marriage would have had the banns read in the parish church, perhaps soldiers were the same. according to Wiki, the parish church for the Castle is the Canongate Kirk - even though there are others much nearer. So I would look there for a banns record. You can check out the regiment at www.regiments.org, Judy On 12 Jan 2007, at 08:08, Suzanne wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Suzanne > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 3:58 PM > Subject: Scottish Marriage > > > Hello I am new to this list, recently I found my 6xGrandparents > GEORGE MOSS & HELEN REID were married Edinburg March 1777, they > were married by Chaplain of Regiment, Church of England, at this > time he was in the 70th Regiment ( no further information on this ) > > would there be a marriage certificate ? or a record of the marriage > > any help appreciated > Suzy > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-EDINBURGH- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:02:15 +0000, you wrote: >I tested this by sending it to myself and it came out OK but I >suspect the columns will get scrambled when it hits the list. I >suspect the 'arbul' bit is a mistranscription. Art? something. How about marble?

I tested this by sending it to myself and it came out OK but I suspect the columns will get scrambled when it hits the list. I suspect the 'arbul' bit is a mistranscription. Art? something. Artist maybe. There are of course big burial grounds in the area. Margaret was also born in Carluke, the other person is a general servant. Judy > To: judy olsen <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] 1851 CENSUS LOOK UP PLEASE > > This would seem to be him, as indexed by Ancestry. Note that there > is no R in Calton. > > > > Robt Forrest > Age: > 60 > Estimated birth year: > abt 1791 > Relationship: > Head > Spouse's name: > Margaret > Gender: > Male > Where born: > Carluke, Lanarkshire > Parish Number: > 685/1 > Civil parish: > Edinburgh St Andrew > County: > Midlothian > Address: > Calton Hill > Occupation: > Sculptor Arbul > ED: > 12 > Page: > 1 (click to see others on page) > Household schedule number: > 2 > Line: > 5 > Roll: > CSSCT1851_180 > Household Members: > Name > Age > Ann Doberty > 18 > Margaret Forrest > 49 > Robt Forrest > 60 > > > > > On 11 Jan 2007, at 11:53, Dorothy Stewart wrote: > >> I am looking for a possible family connection and was hoping >> someone might >> have the 1851 census of EDINBURGH and could check please and see >> if there is >> a listing for a ROBERT FORREST, SCULPTOR approx age 40 and his >> wife MARGARET >> approx age 45. I THINK he died at CARLTON HILL, EDINBURGH as >> there is a >> listing on the free part of SP for an INVENTORY & SETTLEMEMT in >> 1853. I >> found the 1841 census info on FreeCen and although the 1851 is >> also supposed >> to be there I could not find them. Thank you >> >> Dorothy >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT- >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hiya The 1851 census isn't on FREECEN yet as it is still being transcribed etc. It gets added to FREECEN a bit at a time. The only way to have access to the census online is on scotlandspeople site and pay the £6 to view info you need. good luck<html><DIV><FONT face="Lucida Handwriting, Cursive" color=#660099>June &nbsp;<IMG height=12 src="http://graphics.hotmail.com/emsmile.gif" width=12></FONT></DIV></html> > From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 06:53:04 -0500> Subject: [SCT-EDINBURGH] 1851 CENSUS LOOK UP PLEASE> > I am looking for a possible family connection and was hoping someone might> have the 1851 census of EDINBURGH and could check please and see if there is> a listing for a ROBERT FORREST, SCULPTOR approx age 40 and his wife MARGARET> approx age 45. I THINK he died at CARLTON HILL, EDINBURGH as there is a> listing on the free part of SP for an INVENTORY & SETTLEMEMT in 1853. I> found the 1841 census info on FreeCen and although the 1851 is also supposed> to be there I could not find them. Thank you> > Dorothy > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Be one of the first to try Windows Live Mail. http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionId=5d21c51a-b161-4314-9b0e-4911fb2b2e6d

Uh, I did a simple "Google" search by typing in "Robert Forrest+Scottish sculptor" and the following link came up: http://glasgowsculpture.com/pg_biography.php?sub=forrest_r You mean to tell me that this had never occurred to you? In addition, it was really easy to find him on Ancestry.co.uk; however, I don't think his primary occupation was "sculptor" in 1851. That's probably why you were having problems. Interesting, isn't it, that I have never even heard of him before. Ms. Kelly Tyler -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dorothy Stewart Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 4:53 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [SCT-EDINBURGH] 1851 CENSUS LOOK UP PLEASE I am looking for a possible family connection and was hoping someone might have the 1851 census of EDINBURGH and could check please and see if there is a listing for a ROBERT FORREST, SCULPTOR approx age 40 and his wife MARGARET approx age 45. I THINK he died at CARLTON HILL, EDINBURGH as there is a listing on the free part of SP for an INVENTORY & SETTLEMEMT in 1853. I found the 1841 census info on FreeCen and although the 1851 is also supposed to be there I could not find them. Thank you Dorothy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.9/622 - Release Date: 1/10/2007

Thanks for help Brian. I will let the list know if I find anything Jo > > Here's a couple of links, Jo. > Regards Brian > > http://www.edinburghonline.co.uk/info/13415/ > and > http://www.google.co.uk/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en&q=Trades+Maiden+Hospital&meta=cr%3DcountryUK%7CcountryGB&btnG=Google+Search >

I am looking for a possible family connection and was hoping someone might have the 1851 census of EDINBURGH and could check please and see if there is a listing for a ROBERT FORREST, SCULPTOR approx age 40 and his wife MARGARET approx age 45. I THINK he died at CARLTON HILL, EDINBURGH as there is a listing on the free part of SP for an INVENTORY & SETTLEMEMT in 1853. I found the 1841 census info on FreeCen and although the 1851 is also supposed to be there I could not find them. Thank you Dorothy