More on Newton, Newtown: I have a John Aitken who died at Craigover (Craigour, Craigo'er) Farm, Newton, on the Old Edinburgh-Dalkeith Road. Newton and Newton Village are 2 miles east of Danderhall, south-east of Edinburgh. John

Dear Janet I have a death certificate on Thomas Lincoln Thomas died 10 October 1902 at Newtown Mother Maiden Name Ann - Where Born Battersea England Marriage to Ann Sophia Nevill who was born 1825 at Wellington U.K. I have never been to your part of the world so don't know where these places are in England. Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] family tree >I think you might have omitted to include that the folk in your family tree >have roots in Scotland? You mention births in London? Do you know for >sure to be able to post here? . Are you just throwing out enquiries. > I understand the dilemma where we have a marriage in England, and their > names suggest they might originally have been Scottish - I have a high > brick wall along those lines. It really is grasping at straws when that > happens. > > Janet > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Norma Anderson" <[email protected]> > > >>I am looking for any information on Thomas Lincoln who was born in >>Battersea London perhaps his parents would be appricated Thomas Lincoln >>Married Ann Sophia Nevill in London in September 1845 Children names >>would be good he came to to Sydney after few Years in London and died in >>Newtown . thanking you Norma. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Um, now I am confused. If it is a UK cert there should be more info on there which will show which Newtown/Newton it is. But from the original query I am assuming that it is Newtown in Australia. And if that's the case is this a part of Australia would the parents names normally be on the death cert - have they been left blank perhaps? Anyway, Battersea is in London, south of the Thames. Famous for its power station and the cat and dogs home. There are at least 2 Wellingtons - one in Somerset and one in Shropshire aka Salop. With a name like Thomas, the odds are shortened to the Shropshire one, which is pretty near the Welsh border. These places are of course all in England, Edinburgh of course is in Scotland and 60 miles from England by road which on this tiny island counts for a lot. Judy > Dear Janet I have a death certificate on Thomas Lincoln > Thomas died 10 October 1902 at Newtown > Mother Maiden Name Ann - > Where Born Battersea England > > Marriage to Ann Sophia Nevill who was born > 1825 at > Wellington U.K. > > I have never been to your part of the world so don't know where these > places are in England. Norma > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janet" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 10:02 AM > Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] family tree > > >> I think you might have omitted to include that the folk in your >> family tree >> have roots in Scotland? You mention births in London? Do you >> know for >> sure to be able to post here? . Are you just throwing out >> enquiries. >> I understand the dilemma where we have a marriage in England, and >> their >> names suggest they might originally have been Scottish - I have a >> high >> brick wall along those lines. It really is grasping at straws >> when that >> happens. >> >> Janet >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Norma Anderson" <[email protected]> >> >> >>> I am looking for any information on Thomas Lincoln who was >>> born in >>> Battersea London perhaps his parents would be appricated Thomas >>> Lincoln >>> Married Ann Sophia Nevill in London in September 1845 Children >>> names >>> would be good he came to to Sydney after few Years in London >>> and died in >>> Newtown . thanking you Norma. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-EDINBURGH- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Newtown/Newton is one of the commonest place names in the English speaking world. Which makes it a bit difficult really. There is a big one in Powys, now in Wales, but Powys is a county I think and the boundaries and county names in Wales changed a while back. There is one in Derbyshire, which may once have been in Cheshhire, it is on the Cheshire border. There are lots which are called Newton, but sometimes appear as Newtown. London area is indeed a good place to start looking, since there is link with him having died in Battersea. and the people there will likely know of other places of the same name. I am assuming this is not a Scottish death certificate you have. If it is and that is why you joined the Edinburgh list, then look on Scotlandspeople Liz Don't know where Newtown is but London would be a start for you and you might find listers there willing to do some look ups for you. > >Good luck > >Janet > > Dear Janet I have a death certificate on Thomas Lincoln > > Thomas died 10 October 1902 at Newtown > > Mother Maiden Name Ann - > > Where Born Battersea England > > > > Marriage to Ann Sophia Nevill who was born 1825 >at > > Wellington U.K. > > > > I have never been to your part of the world so don't know where these > > places are in England. Norma _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail is evolving – check out the new Windows Live Mail http://ideas.live.com

Hi Norma, Here, you are subscribed to a Scottish list, not English which is why I asked. You need to check out Rootsweb lists for London for battersea. Don't know where Newtown is but London would be a start for you and you might find listers there willing to do some look ups for you. Good luck Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norma Anderson" <[email protected]> > Dear Janet I have a death certificate on Thomas Lincoln > Thomas died 10 October 1902 at Newtown > Mother Maiden Name Ann - > Where Born Battersea England > > Marriage to Ann Sophia Nevill who was born 1825 at > Wellington U.K. > > I have never been to your part of the world so don't know where these > places are in England. Norma

I am looking for any information on Thomas Lincoln who was born in Battersea London perhaps his parents would be appricated Thomas Lincoln Married Ann Sophia Nevill in London in September 1845 Children names would be good he came to to Sydney after few Years in London and died in Newtown . thanking you Norma.

I think you might have omitted to include that the folk in your family tree have roots in Scotland? You mention births in London? Do you know for sure to be able to post here? . Are you just throwing out enquiries. I understand the dilemma where we have a marriage in England, and their names suggest they might originally have been Scottish - I have a high brick wall along those lines. It really is grasping at straws when that happens. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norma Anderson" <[email protected]> >I am looking for any information on Thomas Lincoln who was born in Battersea London perhaps his parents would be appricated Thomas Lincoln Married Ann Sophia Nevill in London in September 1845 Children names would be good he came to to Sydney after few Years in London and died in Newtown . thanking you Norma.

Do you know this is something I never assume. I know that some do have CDs but I really dont know what is on them. I really dont expect that the information I need is there for one moment. People who purchase these PCs shouldnt be pressed to produce data that may or may not be there for the very reason that unlike the rest of us they paid the fee and purchased it. I have to admit however that I dont think we know enough about the CDs that are available. If we did we might feel inclined to purchase them for ourselves. Janet. ----- Original Message ----- From: "cristy" <[email protected]> > Hello, > > Is it too hard to look up "Dewar" for me on the CD? Mine are from > Edinburgh, possible Archibald or if there are any others at the time? Would > that be too many? > > thanks, > > Christine

I would say he probably worked for the Granton Harbour Dept, which according to an almanac I have did have a pier master in 1900. No assistant listed though. First port of call for records would be the Edinburgh Central Library followed by the National Archives of Scotland. Judy On 17 Feb 2007, at 16:51, Janet wrote: > I am wondering if any one here has any records relating to the > Pier. My Gt Uncle was Assistant Pier Master there in 1906 aged 31 > when he married. I checked out his given address, i.e. Caroline > Park, Granton, Edinburgh but didnt find much else. > Does any one know where the Pier Master records might be kept please. > > His name was William ROWAT or ROWATT and he married Jane Hannah REID. > > Any help gratefully acknowledged, thanks. > > Janet > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-EDINBURGH- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Kathleen, You could check the marriage of Helen on scotlandspeople. familysearch shows 20 marriages of Helen SHIELS including SHEILS between 1850 and 1870 in Scotland. Best Wishes, Jane ----- Original Message ----- > HI Ann, > Thank you so much for looking all that up for me. I greatly appreciate > it. I was half hoping that he had married Helen Sheils. > > Kathleen

Dwelling: 3 Chalmers Cresc Census Place: Edinburgh St Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0224011 GRO Ref Volume 685-5 EnumDist 105 Page 7 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Robert GOSSIP M 52 M Turriff, Aberdeen, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Journalist Margaret GOSSIP M 50 F Lochbroom, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland Rel: Wife Nina Barbara GOSSIP U 23 F Inverness, Scotland Rel: Dau Walter GOSSIP U 21 M Dundee Rel: Son Occ: Medical Student Jane M. GOSSIP U 17 F Glasgow Rel: Dau Occ: Scholar Mary M. GOSSIP U 15 F Glasgow Rel: Dau Occ: Scholar Charlotte M. GOSSIP U 12 F Glasgow Rel: Dau Occ: Scholar Arthur John GOSSIP U 8 M Glasgow Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Francis WATERBY U 67 M Lincoln, England Rel: Boarder Occ: Retired Merchant Charles W. HEWETSON U 19 M Jamaica Rel: Boarder Occ: Medical Student George W. HEWETSON 18 M Kingston, Jamaica Rel: Boarder Occ: Scholar Richard F. SHEPHERD 18 M Ambleside Westmorland Rel: Boarder Occ: Medical Student John SCOTT U 15 M Holm, Orkney, Scotland Rel: Boarder Occ: Scholar Agnes MUNCY U 19 F Glasgow Rel: Servant Occ: Domestic Servant

I am wondering if any one here has any records relating to the Pier. My Gt Uncle was Assistant Pier Master there in 1906 aged 31 when he married. I checked out his given address, i.e. Caroline Park, Granton, Edinburgh but didnt find much else. Does any one know where the Pier Master records might be kept please. His name was William ROWAT or ROWATT and he married Jane Hannah REID. Any help gratefully acknowledged, thanks. Janet

Hello, Is it too hard to look up "Dewar" for me on the CD? Mine are from Edinburgh, possible Archibald or if there are any others at the time? Would that be too many? thanks, Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Galliard" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] 1881 census cd > Only if Helen is a daughter in law, as she is shown as Williams' wife. > > Best wishes, > Ann > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Only if Helen is a daughter in law, as she is shown as Williams' wife. Best wishes, Ann

Sorry Kathleen, Can't find her on the national index either. Best wishes Ann

Hi Kathleen, Unfortunately no trace in Edinburgh. Do you have her daughter's married name? Best wishes, Ann

HI Ann, Thank you so much for looking all that up for me. I greatly appreciate it. I was half hoping that he had married Helen Sheils. Kathleen

Hi Ann & Ann Thank you both for replying so quickly. I dont know Helen's married name, if indeed she ever married. Last seen in the 1861 census, the two women had a lodger named Robert Gossip a newspaper editor. I wonder if he was still around in 1881? Kathleen

This may be Helen Dwelling: Village Of Balerno Census Place: Currie, Edinburgh, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0223986 GRO Ref Volume 682 EnumDist 5 Page 3 Marr Age Sex Birthplace William SHIELS M 37 M Straiton, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Paper Maker Helen SHIELS M 37 F Edinburgh Rel: Wife George SHIELS 10 M Currie, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Elizabeth SHIELS 9 F Currie, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Dau Occ: Scholar Mary SHIELS 5 F Currie, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Dau Occ: Scholar Jane SHIELS 1 F Currie, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Dau James SHIELS U 28 M Edinburgh Rel: Brother Occ: Carter Ann Roots

Hi Ann Did not expect a reply so quickly. Thank you. Kathleen