Are parish relief records available and what information might they provide? In 1832, Janet Law married Cunningham Shepherd (recorded at St Cuthberts). In 1833, Janet and Cunningham had a son named Cunningham (recorded at St Cuthberts). In 1834, Janet and son arrived in NYC after leaving Greenock, Scotland. (No mention of husband) In 1839, Janet married Alexander Meek (recorded at St Cuthberts). She states she is widowed (husband Cunningham was "afterwards in Connecticut"). Janet's father was Alexander Law, hairdresser. He was listed in postal directories up until 1834-35 but no listing after that time. When Janet married Alexander Meek, she also stated that her father was deceased. I'm trying to establish when Janet and her son returned to Edinburgh. With no husband or father for support, I'm thinking that maybe she relied on parish relief. Janet and son are living in the Meek household on the 1841 census. In 1851, Janet is living on parish relief----widowed again. Cunningham Shepherd isn't to be found! The 2 oldest Meek children are living in Peebles with their Meek grandparents while the 2 youngest Meek children are living with Janet. There's also a "cousin" living with Janet (James McDonald)---a "cousin" she later married! I would love to find anything on ANY Cunningham Shepherd. I also would like to know when Alexander Law and Alexander Meek died. (Of course, I want to know when Janet and her son returned to Edinburgh!) Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated! (Much thanks to June and Bill, too!) Sandy Ellis
Hello Margaret I have searched Scotlands People all Districts/Parishes 1795-1822 incl. Nothing. Ann Cairns,Qld
> ~ John Ward: born July 13, 1872 @ Walls, Orkney. Apparently, he > became a Police Officer in Edinburgh. He appears in the 1901 census > living at (and I hope that I read this correctly) 5 Old Fishmarket > Close, Parliament Square. Yes, should be still there and not far from the Police Museum as it happens. The Police Station in the High St is perhaps the best known in Edinburgh, famous for temporary overnight stays for those who had a skinful. Perhaps your relative was living in Police accommodation. > ~ Henry Berston Ward: born Sept. 4, 1879 @ Walls. He appears in the > 1901 census in Edinburgh too. He's at 39 Ramsey Lane and works as a > 2 car conductor. Ramsay Lane, up near the Castle. Not sure if the address will still be there, not so much because of demolition, more because building use might have changed. As a car conductor I would say he worked on the Edinburgh Trams which in those days were trolley buses. ( Leith got electric trams earlier but they didnt come in in Edinburgh itself until about 1922. ) The cars ran on cables laid in the street. Power was provided by plants at key places such as Tollcross. The conductor of course was needed to take the fares. The two men were living near to each other - 500 metres maybe. Judy
Hi there, I'm a new member to this list, and until now didn't realize that some of my ancestors hopped from Orkney to mainland Scotland. Two Great Uncles settled in Edinburgh as it turns out so I'm hoping that someone here might have a connection or information. I'm searching for: ~ John Ward: born July 13, 1872 @ Walls, Orkney. Apparently, he became a Police Officer in Edinburgh. He appears in the 1901 census living at (and I hope that I read this correctly) 5 Old Fishmarket Close, Parliament Square. He's shown as a 28 year old lodger, a constable. A relative passed along an undated photo to me where he's in his police uniform. Unfortunately, I don't know anything else about him. How long he worked, who he married or when he died. ~ Henry Berston Ward: born Sept. 4, 1879 @ Walls. He appears in the 1901 census in Edinburgh too. He's at 39 Ramsey Lane and works as a 2 car conductor. I'm not sure what that is -- sounds like something to do with trains, perhaps? I do not know if he married or when he died. If anyone knows any information on these two people or there situations, I'd be so thrilled! Is there any chance that the buildings where they were listed might still be around today? Jackie Middleton Toronto, Canada
I am seeking information on and decendents of Alexander Whitehead and Isabella Nisbet married May 9 1855 in Edinburgh. Alexander was born Jan 20 1833 to Robert Whitehead and Sarah Jackett and he died January 10 1890. Isabella was born July 23 1834 to John Nisbet and Isabella Nicol and died January 31 1873. Alexander and Isabella had the following children: Alexander ( Feb. 6 1857 Glasgow), Sarah (Dec. 28 1858 Edinburgh), James (Apr. 24 1861 Edinburgh), John (May 16 1863 Edinburgh), Robert (May 24 1865 Edinburgh), Isabella (Sept. 14 1867-Jan 8 1869 Edinburgh) and Isabella (Dec. 5 1869 Edinburgh). On a couple of the birth registries, mother Isabella is listed as Elizabeth. Between the 1871 census and 1881 census the family had dispersed as Sarah and Isabella are with their Uncle James Nisbet, Alexander (father) is a lodger elsewhere and Alexander (son), James, John and Robert are either deceased or eleswhere as I haven't been able to locate them on the 1881 census. Any help is appreciated and I would love to hear from anyone with conenctions to these Whiteheads. Regards, Eric Nisbet Ontario Canada
hiya You sent me an email with attachments the other day and for some reason I can't open the email. If possible could you send it to me again thanks<html><DIV><FONT face="Lucida Handwriting, Cursive" color=#660099>June <IMG height=12 src="http://graphics.hotmail.com/emsmile.gif" width=12></FONT></DIV></html> > Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 18:28:30 -0400> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Notman Family - 1882> > Yes my Christina is the daughter of Robert and Christina Mcnish (nee > Philip) married Jun 25 1848 in Corstorphine, Midlothian SCOTLAND so I > guess your Maria is a relative. I would love to find out if you have > anything on Christina and Archibald's family.> > Regards,> Eric Nisber> Ontario Canada> > > Message: 3> Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 13:56:47 +0000> From: June Duncan <[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Notman Family - 1882> To: <[email protected]>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > Hiya> > Is your Christina McNish the daughter of Robert and Christina MCnish ( nee Philip) If so then I have lots of info on the McNish side of the family as my hubby is a decendant of Maria McNish Christina's sister.> > > > > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Try Live.com - your fast, personalized homepage with all the things you care about in one place. http://www.live.com/getstarted
hiya I've not had a chance to look out McNish stuff yet but I will over the weekend. I'll mail you at beginning of the week with the McNish info have a lovely weekend<html><DIV><FONT face="Lucida Handwriting, Cursive" color=#660099>June <IMG height=12 src="http://graphics.hotmail.com/emsmile.gif" width=12></FONT></DIV></html> > Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 18:28:30 -0400> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Notman Family - 1882> > Yes my Christina is the daughter of Robert and Christina Mcnish (nee > Philip) married Jun 25 1848 in Corstorphine, Midlothian SCOTLAND so I > guess your Maria is a relative. I would love to find out if you have > anything on Christina and Archibald's family.> > Regards,> Eric Nisber> Ontario Canada> > > Message: 3> Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 13:56:47 +0000> From: June Duncan <[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Notman Family - 1882> To: <[email protected]>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > Hiya> > Is your Christina McNish the daughter of Robert and Christina MCnish ( nee Philip) If so then I have lots of info on the McNish side of the family as my hubby is a decendant of Maria McNish Christina's sister.> > > > > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself: design your homepage the way you want it with Live.com. http://www.live.com/getstarted
Yes my Christina is the daughter of Robert and Christina Mcnish (nee Philip) married Jun 25 1848 in Corstorphine, Midlothian SCOTLAND so I guess your Maria is a relative. I would love to find out if you have anything on Christina and Archibald's family. Regards, Eric Nisber Ontario Canada Message: 3 Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 13:56:47 +0000 From: June Duncan <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Notman Family - 1882 To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hiya Is your Christina McNish the daughter of Robert and Christina MCnish ( nee Philip) If so then I have lots of info on the McNish side of the family as my hubby is a decendant of Maria McNish Christina's sister.
Hi Marian While the OPR records (http://www.gro-scotland.gov.uk/famrec/hlpsrch/opr-cov.html) state that there is a film of births for Kilmarnock for 177-1801 (597/3), it is a bit worrying that the IGI has no Drummond or McGie born in Kilmarnock for that time, though there are plenty born in Ayr in general. This makes me think that perhaps the record of Kilmarnock births is not very complete for that time. Perhaps someone on the Ayr list would be able to confirm this. If you have no birth records to go on, I think my next step would be to look for MIs for Kilmarnock and go for the possibility that the father of Edward was called Daniel and hope that he was well enough off to have an inscribed grave. Any link to the occupation of merchant may be a clue - again an assumption that Edward may have followed his father's profession. If you find such a grave and it has any reference to children (ie potentially Edward's siblings) the next hope is that you can follow them and see if there are any clues there. Tortuous process I am afraid! Still on the MI route, there is a large gap between Mary born 1811 and Edward 1817. Quite possibly another child(ren) was born and died in that period. If so it might be buried somewhere with an inscription. It could even have been buried with the grandparents in Kilmarnock - I have seen that before. If they owned a family lair then extended family were buried there even if living a distance away. I could have a look at the Kilmarnock MIs next time I am in Edinburgh if you like, or you may find someone on the Ayr list who has that data. Have you looked up any of the Directories of Scottish Settlers 1625 to 1825 by David Dobson? I think there are 7 different volumes and include all sorts of documents not just shipping records, eg contemporary newspapers and official records, etc, with plenty of detail about individual settlers. You are lucky that your ancestor's emigration fits into this time period and there may be something to be gleaned there - unless you have already tried this route? Good luck! Jo > I am new to this list and have recently found the marriage of Edward McGie > and Anne Drummond on Scotland's People site. Edward and Anne were married > 15 May 1808, Old Church Parish, Edinburgh. It states "Edward McGie of this > parish and Anne Drummond of Kilmarnock" and also states that Edward was a > Merchant. I also found the birth of 2 of their 3 children; Daniel in 1809 > and Mary in 1811. They also had a son named Edward born 1817 in Scotland. > They emigrated to Quebec about 1820 where Edward farmed in Rawdon, Quebec. > He sent his sons to school in Quebec City and Daniel became a prominent > businessman there. Mary married John Eveleigh in Rawdon and they were my > 3rd gt-grandparents. I am looking for parents and family of Edward McGie > and Anne Drummond. Anyone have any ideas? > Marian Sargent
This is the problem with OPRs. And your folk had emigrated before the 1841 census here. I would be inclined to calculate the birth of your Edward who married Anne as about 1785 or thereabouts. Similarly for your Anne Drummond. Have you tried to locate a death record for him in Canada, and a monument inscription. You would be in luck if they brought out either of their parents to Canada as I know some families did. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marian Sargent" <[email protected]> > Hi! > I am new to this list and have recently found the marriage of Edward McGie and Anne Drummond on Scotland's People site. Edward and Anne were married 15 May 1808, Old Church Parish, Edinburgh. It states "Edward McGie of this parish and Anne Drummond of Kilmarnock" and also states that Edward was a Merchant. I also found the birth of 2 of their 3 children; Daniel in 1809 and Mary in 1811. They also had a son named Edward born 1817 in Scotland. They emigrated to Quebec about 1820 where Edward farmed in Rawdon, Quebec. He sent his sons to school in Quebec City and Daniel became a prominent businessman there. Mary married John Eveleigh in Rawdon and they were my 3rd gt-grandparents. I am looking for parents and family of Edward McGie and Anne Drummond. Anyone have any ideas? > Marian Sargent
Thank you Christine
Good Morning I am new to the list and hope you can help. Robert Albert Maule Menzies was born at 3 Potterow in 1855 to parents Thomas Menzies and Jane McKenzie. He married Helen S Stoddart from Bridge of Allan,Stirling in Edinburgh 1878. They had 4 children Helen 1879/80, Jane 1882/83,Thomas 1884/85 and Robert 1888/89. He had his own business - Burgh Cabinet Works at Murano Place at least 1904-07 according to Edinburgh and Leith PO Directories. I believe he was involved in the business of Robert Maule and Son, Cabinetmakers, 145-149 Princes Street and 1 & 5 Hope Street in 1908/09 again from PO Directories. His home was Hawkefield House in Restalrig Road until at least 1907. I know he was alive in January 1916 (from an article in the Edinburgh Gazette Issue 12891.) Does anyone know of this elusive man? I would love to know when he died. Have tried endless times through Scotlands People without luck. The article in the Edinburgh Gazette was concerning Sequestration of a company and R A M Menzies was elected a Commissioner for the Bankruptcy hearing at the Sheriff Court House, George IV Bridge. What qualifications would he need to hold this position? Any info,assistance or advice will be appreciated Thank you Ann Menzies Cairns,Australia
Thank you Janet for responding! He died in Quebec City and his death record states that he was born in Kilmarnock, Scotland...in 1785 as you suggested. I know it is difficult to find records before census, etc., but just thought perhaps someone on this list had some McGie's in their ancestry...or Drummond's, of course. Thanks Again, Marian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 8:00 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] McGie/Drummond > This is the problem with OPRs. And your folk had emigrated before the > 1841 census here. I would be inclined to calculate the birth of your > Edward who married Anne as about 1785 or thereabouts. Similarly for your > Anne Drummond. > Have you tried to locate a death record for him in Canada, and a monument > inscription. > You would be in luck if they brought out either of their parents to Canada > as I know some families did. > > Janet > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marian Sargent" <[email protected]> > > >> Hi! >> I am new to this list and have recently found the marriage of Edward >> McGie and Anne Drummond on Scotland's People site. Edward and Anne were >> married 15 May 1808, Old Church Parish, Edinburgh. It states "Edward >> McGie of this parish and Anne Drummond of Kilmarnock" and also states >> that Edward was a Merchant. I also found the birth of 2 of their 3 >> children; Daniel in 1809 and Mary in 1811. They also had a son named >> Edward born 1817 in Scotland. They emigrated to Quebec about 1820 where >> Edward farmed in Rawdon, Quebec. He sent his sons to school in Quebec >> City and Daniel became a prominent businessman there. Mary married John >> Eveleigh in Rawdon and they were my 3rd gt-grandparents. I am looking >> for parents and family of Edward McGie and Anne Drummond. Anyone have any >> ideas? >> Marian Sargent > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Dear Ann, I have a Charlotte MAULE born 1782 in Edinburgh who married a Capt Alexander Robert Kerr CB RN. They had seven children some of whom kept Maule as a middle name for more than one generation.One of yours? -- Andrew Forman 01756 730730
Hi! I am new to this list and have recently found the marriage of Edward McGie and Anne Drummond on Scotland's People site. Edward and Anne were married 15 May 1808, Old Church Parish, Edinburgh. It states "Edward McGie of this parish and Anne Drummond of Kilmarnock" and also states that Edward was a Merchant. I also found the birth of 2 of their 3 children; Daniel in 1809 and Mary in 1811. They also had a son named Edward born 1817 in Scotland. They emigrated to Quebec about 1820 where Edward farmed in Rawdon, Quebec. He sent his sons to school in Quebec City and Daniel became a prominent businessman there. Mary married John Eveleigh in Rawdon and they were my 3rd gt-grandparents. I am looking for parents and family of Edward McGie and Anne Drummond. Anyone have any ideas? Marian Sargent
Hi Ann, I am also researching the Menzies name from Scotland, I will dig my notes out soon to see if anything rings a bell. Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "ann menzies" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 8:26 PM Subject: [SCT-EDINBURGH] MENZIES,Robert Albert Maule > > Good Morning > I am new to the list and hope you can help. > > Robert Albert Maule Menzies was born at 3 Potterow in 1855 to parents > Thomas > Menzies and Jane McKenzie. > He married Helen S Stoddart from Bridge of Allan,Stirling in Edinburgh > 1878. > They had 4 children Helen 1879/80, Jane 1882/83,Thomas 1884/85 and Robert > 1888/89. > He had his own business - Burgh Cabinet Works at Murano Place at least > 1904-07 according to Edinburgh and Leith PO Directories. I believe he was > involved in the business of Robert Maule and Son, Cabinetmakers, 145-149 > Princes Street and 1 & 5 Hope Street in 1908/09 again from PO Directories. > His home was Hawkefield House in Restalrig Road until at least 1907. > I know he was alive in January 1916 (from an article in the Edinburgh > Gazette Issue 12891.) > Does anyone know of this elusive man? I would love to know when he died. > Have tried endless times through Scotlands People without luck. > The article in the Edinburgh Gazette was concerning Sequestration of a > company and R A M Menzies was elected a Commissioner for the Bankruptcy > hearing at the Sheriff Court House, George IV Bridge. What qualifications > would he need to hold this position? > > Any info,assistance or advice will be appreciated > Thank you > Ann Menzies > Cairns,Australia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Hi, I am currently searching very slowly through Scotlands People for my William BLACK, and I was wondering whether anyone could help me narrow down the search a little. William BLACK b ~1884 (Glasgow, but possibly Edinburgh). Mother is Marion PIKE and he names his father as William BLACK, solicitor. In my search there is no marriage for these two, but there is an unmarried solicitor in Edinburgh who may fit the description. Could someone do a births lookup for my William Black around 1884, mother Marion, possibly illegitimate. Also if anyone has access to the probate index, could they look up William BLACK d. 29June 1914 Hanover St Edinburgh. Thankyou! Kathryn Black Canberra, Australia
Hiya Is your Christina McNish the daughter of Robert and Christina MCnish ( nee Philip) If so then I have lots of info on the McNish side of the family as my hubby is a decendant of Maria McNish Christina's sister. <html><DIV><FONT face="Lucida Handwriting, Cursive" color=#660099>June <IMG height=12 src="http://graphics.hotmail.com/emsmile.gif" width=12></FONT></DIV></html> > Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 05:29:59 -0400> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Subject: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Notman Family - 1882> > I am seeking decendants of Archibald Notman and Christina McNish. They > were married Feb 17 1882 in Edinburgh Sctoland. On the 1901 census, the > children included Archibald (1883), John (1885), Janet (1891), Robert > (1894), Isabella (1896) and William (1898). There may have been others > but they are unknown. > > Eric Nisbet> Ontario Canada> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Discover the new Windows Vista http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vista&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE
I am seeking decendants of Archibald Notman and Christina McNish. They were married Feb 17 1882 in Edinburgh Sctoland. On the 1901 census, the children included Archibald (1883), John (1885), Janet (1891), Robert (1894), Isabella (1896) and William (1898). There may have been others but they are unknown. Eric Nisbet Ontario Canada
AM TRYING TO FIND THE PARENTS of Mungo CHRICHTON or CRICHTON Of, Skirling Peebles b abt 1745 Married 18 Jun 1770 Skirling Peebles to Margaret LAWSON b 12 May 1751 Father James LAWSON Mother Isobel VEITCH also TRYING TO FIND THE PARENTS OF William CRICHTON b abt 1744 Of, Skirling Peebles died 30 Mar 1832 aged 81 married 31 Dec 1779 to Mary THOMSON chr 03 Aug 1761 died 30 Oct 1809 aged 53 both are buried in St Marys Churchyard Biggar Lanarkshire Any help very much appreciated Joan Carmody [email protected]