Two points here St Cuthberts isnt a Catholic church And never assume your ancestors mightnt have used a Catholic church occasionally, for social or other reasons. As a child I remember some awful conversations relating to race and religion, very anti-catholic, and it turns out one of the uncles taking part was born to a long line of Irish Catholics and was baptised Catholic, although I dont think he ever practiced. But he sure as heck knew about it, I cleared some of his stuff after he died and he knew Liz > >I'm very glad you put this up as I have just discounted a possible ancestor >registered in St Cuthbert's as I thought it meant the Catholic Church - and >I'm sure my relatives wouldn't be Catholic. >So if birth & marriage regs where in St Cuthbert's it then refers to the >area not the actual church??? >I am looking at (but not sure about) William and Lillias Graham abt. 1820. > Son John. Maybe daughter Mary/Margaret. >Trisha >NZ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: judy olsen > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:16 AM > Subject: [SCT-EDINBURGH] St Cuthberts Re: Johnston/Thomson > > > I'm by no means an expert on the Edinburgh parishes, but maybe this > is a good time to point out to people just how confusing "St > Cuthberts" can be. > > St Cuthberts was a parish like no other I have ever found in the UK. > It grew 'like topsy' during the 19thc and included a population way > beyond the numbers that could have been accommodated in any of the > churches built on the site. I think one figure I had was a population > of 40,000 and most churches in Edinburgh seated around 800 at the time. > > I did a quick google and found this map - no date- but just provides > a flavour > > http://mowbray.homestead.com/files/edinparishes133kb.jpg > > As you can see. St Cuthberts sweeps round the city. Edinburgh grew > with the creation of the New Town but also with massive population > influxes and expansion. The growth was in fits and starts as you can > see today from the dates of the residential buildings. At some point > it created a 'new royalty' which I think included extra parishes but > I am afraid I don't know when that was - mid 19thc at a guess. > > On top of all this, there were at least 20 to 30% of people in > Edinburgh who were obliged to call banns at the local parish church > but actually attended the many breakaway chapels. Many of these > appear as 'marriages' at St Cuthberts via the LDS online indices but > the ceremony took place elsewhere and the family would not have > baptised their children at the church. > > In conclusion, in terms of the numbers included in its official remit > St Cuthberts was perhaps 20 times the size of a typical Scottish > parish and its area was way bigger than its Edinburgh neighbours. > > > Judy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 16 Apr 2007, at 22:01, Doreen Baxter wrote: > > > Hello Liz > > > > If Michael married after 1855 his age will be on the certificate > > which would give you his year of birth. > > > > Have you seen the OPR entry for William's birth in 1775? If not, I > > will look it up for you on my next visit to New Register House. > > There is a remote possibility that it will give more info - but > > this is not always the case. It very much depends on who wrote the > > entry and how meticulous they were. On one of my lots marriage > > entry in 1820, the occupations and addresses were given - if only > > they were all like that! > > > > It is interesting that there are Johnstons and Thomsons in your > > line a well. I have found in a number of families that sisters and > > brothers married into the same families, so there may well be a > > link - all we need to do is break down a few brick walls!! > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Liz Darby > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 8:03 PM > > Subject: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Johnston/Thomson > > > > > > Doreen > > > > I too have some elusive Johnston/Johnsons from St.Cuthberts, > > Edinburgh. My William Johnston was born in the late 1700's, but I > > can't find a record. he may have had a brothet Thomas . He married > > Elizabeth Black in 1810 in Edinburgh and they had one son, Michael > > Thomas, and two daughters, Ruth and Mary. Apart from not having > > Michael's birth (only his late marriage and death), there must have > > been other children. They were mostly baptised in St.Cuthbert's and > > Michael was married there later ( his bride's father, a crofter > > from north of Inverness apparently died there too, although this > > again is elusive ) > > But what I have been trying to get more infromation on is the > > birth of a William to William Johnston and Ann Thomson on 6 June > > 1775 in Edinburgh parish - any possible link ? > > Like you I am confused by all the Johnsons ect in one parish at > > about the same time. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT- > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-EDINBURGH- > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Could you be the guest MSN Movies presenter? 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Who did Ann marry and what is the connection to Edinburgh? Judy On 18 Apr 2007, at 02:53, Alan Elliott wrote: > In Melbourne, Australia in 1870 Henry MIDDLETON married Isobella > MARSHALL > b.1851 Paisley. > On their wedding certificate Isobella gave her mothers name as Ann > BALLCOMPTON. > On the image of her parents wedding 5 Oct 1949 Ann's surname is spelt > BALCANCLE ?. > > All other details of the marriage match the information I have from > other > sources. > But there is no like name in the 1841 census or births on > Scotlandspeople > for Ann. > > Are there such names as BALLCOMPTON and BALCANCLE. ? > > Alan Elliott > Torquay, Victoria, > Australia > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-EDINBURGH- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Judy, what is the range of dates for the Times online? Thanks. Kathleen

Deb - I will get the number for you on my next visit. Doreen. Thanks very much for the offer, I would now like to know if I need an index number to obtain her death certificate and wondered if and when you are next at NRH if you would be so kind as to obtain the ref number for me so I can then apply for a certificate.

In Melbourne, Australia in 1870 Henry MIDDLETON married Isobella MARSHALL b.1851 Paisley. On their wedding certificate Isobella gave her mothers name as Ann BALLCOMPTON. On the image of her parents wedding 5 Oct 1949 Ann's surname is spelt BALCANCLE ?. All other details of the marriage match the information I have from other sources. But there is no like name in the 1841 census or births on Scotlandspeople for Ann. Are there such names as BALLCOMPTON and BALCANCLE. ? Alan Elliott Torquay, Victoria, Australia

The Times online is one of the Gale Databases and can be accessed via large libraries which have paid a hefty subscription. You would normally need a ticket for one of those libraries to get a remote password, although I have seen messages about libraries that operate a more open policy. Judy On 18 Apr 2007, at 10:02, Brian WARE wrote: > Hi Judy, > > What's the Times link please. > Thanks. > > Regards Brian > > > At 09:44 18/04/2007, you wrote: >> The Times Monday May 02, 1960 >> >> >> WIDDOWSON - On April 29th, 1960 , at Deaconess Hospital, Edinburgh, >> MARGARET (RITA) ELIZABETH HUSBAND, widow of ARNOLD FREEMAN WIDDOWSON, >> Christchurch, New Zealand, and matron, Skegness Convalescent Home, >> and formerly Matron Fouad 1st Hospital, Cairo. >> >> >> There might have been a death notice in The Scotsman as well but the >> online archive stops at 1950. >> >> >> Judy >> >> On 18 Apr 2007, at 05:41, Deb Beban wrote: >> >> > snip >> >> > Person's name is Margaret (aka, Rita) Elizabeth Husband WIDDOWSON >> > (nee SMITH) >> > She was born Edinburgh c 1907 to Charles Irvine SMITH and Catherine >> > Gellatly MURDOCH. She had an older sister Isabella Irvine SMITH bn >> > 1904 and a brother Charles SMITH who may have been younger. He was >> > the informant to our family of her death but now as time has passed >> > there is nobody able to tell me exactly where she died. >> > >> > She married Arnold Freeman WIDDOWSON, a New Zealand service man, >> > February 1942, Cairo, Egypt. He was killed at El Alamein October >> > 1942. My aunt was an army nursing sister. >> > >> snip >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT- >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ___________________________________________________________ Try the > all-new Yahoo! Mail. "The New Version is radically easier to use" – > The Wall Street Journal http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-EDINBURGH- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Deb If it is just one death record, I will look it up for you on my next visit to NRH without charge. I should be going in about 10 days time. Doreen. ----- Original Message ----- From: Deb Beban To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 5:55 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Death 1960 Oh, may be I need to re think my research plan.If you don't mind my asking what was the hourly rate charged by the researcher? Many thanks Deb ----- Original Message ----- From: "virginia miller" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Death 1960 : My understanding is that the more modern records are available in Edinburgh, : but not online and they can't be copied. I hired a researcher to find living : descendants of my family in Scotland and she found them for me. : Good luck, : Virginia, : Canada : : : ------------------------------- : To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message : : : -- : No virus found in this incoming message. : Checked by AVG Free Edition. : Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.5.1/765 - Release Date: 17/04/2007 5:20 p.m. : : -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 749 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

What is the Times address on-line please? >From: judy olsen <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] The Times online >Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:09:23 +0100 > >1785 to 1985 > >judy > >On 18 Apr 2007, at 17:53, k c wrote: > > > Hi Judy, > > > > what is the range of dates for the Times online? Thanks. Kathleen > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-EDINBURGH- > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Download Messenger. Join the i’m Initiative. Help make a difference today. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGHM_APR07

Hi Judy, What's the Times link please. Thanks. Regards Brian At 09:44 18/04/2007, you wrote: >The Times Monday May 02, 1960 > > >WIDDOWSON - On April 29th, 1960 , at Deaconess Hospital, Edinburgh, >MARGARET (RITA) ELIZABETH HUSBAND, widow of ARNOLD FREEMAN WIDDOWSON, >Christchurch, New Zealand, and matron, Skegness Convalescent Home, >and formerly Matron Fouad 1st Hospital, Cairo. > > >There might have been a death notice in The Scotsman as well but the >online archive stops at 1950. > > >Judy > >On 18 Apr 2007, at 05:41, Deb Beban wrote: > > > snip > > > Person's name is Margaret (aka, Rita) Elizabeth Husband WIDDOWSON > > (nee SMITH) > > She was born Edinburgh c 1907 to Charles Irvine SMITH and Catherine > > Gellatly MURDOCH. She had an older sister Isabella Irvine SMITH bn > > 1904 and a brother Charles SMITH who may have been younger. He was > > the informant to our family of her death but now as time has passed > > there is nobody able to tell me exactly where she died. > > > > She married Arnold Freeman WIDDOWSON, a New Zealand service man, > > February 1942, Cairo, Egypt. He was killed at El Alamein October > > 1942. My aunt was an army nursing sister. > > > snip > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ___________________________________________________________ Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail. "The New Version is radically easier to use" � The Wall Street Journal http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

The Times Monday May 02, 1960 WIDDOWSON - On April 29th, 1960 , at Deaconess Hospital, Edinburgh, MARGARET (RITA) ELIZABETH HUSBAND, widow of ARNOLD FREEMAN WIDDOWSON, Christchurch, New Zealand, and matron, Skegness Convalescent Home, and formerly Matron Fouad 1st Hospital, Cairo. There might have been a death notice in The Scotsman as well but the online archive stops at 1950. Judy On 18 Apr 2007, at 05:41, Deb Beban wrote: > snip > Person's name is Margaret (aka, Rita) Elizabeth Husband WIDDOWSON > (nee SMITH) > She was born Edinburgh c 1907 to Charles Irvine SMITH and Catherine > Gellatly MURDOCH. She had an older sister Isabella Irvine SMITH bn > 1904 and a brother Charles SMITH who may have been younger. He was > the informant to our family of her death but now as time has passed > there is nobody able to tell me exactly where she died. > > She married Arnold Freeman WIDDOWSON, a New Zealand service man, > February 1942, Cairo, Egypt. He was killed at El Alamein October > 1942. My aunt was an army nursing sister. > snip

It may be coincidence that I have a William ROWAT and a Lilias GRAHAM born respectively 1777 and 1784. I also have a James ROWAT and Margaret GRAHAM born respectively 1787 and 1809. These folk originated in Cumbernauld Lanarkshire, and Kirkintilloch, Stirlingshire. I realise its not the information you want, but I offer it to suggest you might need to look further afield. We know that some people travelled some distance to find work and in the mid 1880s in the Industrial Revolution this was very true. People also emigrated because of religious prejudices. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "tricia clarke" <[email protected]> > I'm very glad you put this up as I have just discounted a possible ancestor registered in St Cuthbert's as I thought it meant the Catholic Church - and I'm sure my relatives wouldn't be Catholic. > So if birth & marriage regs where in St Cuthbert's it then refers to the area not the actual church??? > I am looking at (but not sure about) William and Lillias Graham abt. 1820. Son John. Maybe daughter Mary/Margaret. > Trisha > NZ

Hi List I am traveling to Scotland in search of my roots. I have the death certificate of my 3x great grandmother Beatrice Ketchin, nee Lambert. She died 18 Jan 1864 at Temple. Unlike New Zealand certificates it does not state where she is buried. I have two days of research at New Register House and 4 days work to cram in. I have half a day at Loanhead Studies Center so am SO short of time. If possible I would like to view the resting place of GGG granny. There will probably be no headstone as her husband was an agricultural servant for Robert Balfour Wardlaw Ramsay Esq and was interred by him many years after Beatrices death. Beatrice was living with her son at the time of her death. Does anyone have MI's for Temple they could kindly look up for me. I have been in touch with Midlothian Council who was going to have a look but have had no reply and time is getting on. I will be relying on others for transport and don't want to have them racing all over the country willy nilly. Many thanks Janet Tracing... Ketchen Ketchin Keitshine, Lambert, Browns from Perth and Peebles, Kerr, Mercer,Walker, Flemming, Turner, McNair, Sloan,McGarrity.

Your hunch was right Debs, I just looked at The Times and there is a death notice - she died at the Deaconess Hospital in Edinburgh. I have to go out just now but will send you the details. Judy On 18 Apr 2007, at 05:41, Deb Beban wrote: > Hello, > Apologies in advance for this long winded posting. I am desperately > seeking a death record for my aunt who I am lead to believe died in > 1960 in Skegness. My brother, her god son ,is very keen to have > this information to finish a chapter in a book he is writing. > > I have searched the English death records and so far have been > unable to locate a record so am now assuming she may have died in > Edinburgh, her place of birth or even Perth. > > Person's name is Margaret (aka, Rita) Elizabeth Husband WIDDOWSON > (nee SMITH) > She was born Edinburgh c 1907 to Charles Irvine SMITH and Catherine > Gellatly MURDOCH. She had an older sister Isabella Irvine SMITH bn > 1904 and a brother Charles SMITH who may have been younger. He was > the informant to our family of her death but now as time has passed > there is nobody able to tell me exactly where she died. > > She married Arnold Freeman WIDDOWSON, a New Zealand service man, > February 1942, Cairo, Egypt. He was killed at El Alamein October > 1942. My aunt was an army nursing sister. > > Records so far searched with no success are > UK Death indexes from 1956 to 1964 for Margaret Elizabeth Husband > WIDDOWSON > UK Death indexes 1956-1964 for Margaret Elizabeth Husband SMITH > UK Death indexes 1956-1964 for Rita Elizabeth Husband SMITH > UK Death indexes 1956-1964 for Rita Elizabeth Husband WIDDOWSON. > Have checked on Scotland's People but as the entries only go to > 1956 no luck there. > > I have also searched UK marriage indexes and so far not found a > 2nd marriage for her. > > I would be very grateful if somebody with access to death records > from 1956-1964 for either Edinburgh or Perth would be so kind as > to do a look up for me or give me some advise as where to try next. > Thank you very much > Deb Widdowson-Beban > Wellington > NZ > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 749 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-EDINBURGH- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi there, Does anyone know if there's an on-line searchable database for Edinburgh newspapers? In Toronto, we can search two of our newspapers and it's wonderful for finding obits and news articles about ancestors. Anything similar in Edinburgh? Thanks. Jackie Toronto, Canada

My understanding is that the more modern records are available in Edinburgh, but not online and they can't be copied. I hired a researcher to find living descendants of my family in Scotland and she found them for me. Good luck, Virginia, Canada

Hi everyone, This is my first time on this list site. I have few details but I'll tell you what I have and maybe someone can help me. I have: William GRAHAM, seaman. According to old diary sailing during reign of George IV (1820s?) son: John GRAHAM, b. 1822 'around Edinburgh' . The 1822 date comes from consistent census records and family records. The censuses only ever have him as born in 'Scotland'...not helpful. The 'around Edinburgh' comes from the diary. The William Graham, seaman, comes from John's marriage certificate. (The diary had said John's father was John Graham, Ships Captain...hmmm.) John was married in 1844 in Warwick, England. He was married in an Anglican church to an English girl BUT buried in unconsecrated ground (he must have been CoS?) in Brunswick St cemetery, Leamington Spa, Warwickshire in 1874. He was a tailor by trade. John's 3 daughter's names (to help trace his mother) were: Lily, Mary, Margaret (in order). I have been on Scotlandspeople and other sites but just end up confused. John Graham is a reasonably popular name... And I am really wanting to find my Scottish roots. Maybe someone out there can take a brick out of my brickwall. Many thanks, Trisha (nee. Graham) New Zealand.

Hello Meg Paul Collins here, Australian, but living in Brazil. I descended from Robert Edwin Turnbull b. 16 Jul 1790, Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh who married in 1822 in South Africa, Rachel Harper b. 03 Jun 1794 Dalgety, Fife. Robert, a surgeon with the 80th Regiment, moved with his family to Australia in 1837. I'd be pleased if you could assist me with death lookups of Robert's parents, and if possible can you let me know any additional info about Roberts mother, Ann Maughan. Ann Maughan, her sister Elizabeth Maughan, and brother Robert Maughan all married in Edinburgh Parish 1781, 1784 and 1786, but I can't find a lead on Ann Maughan's parents ' IGI gives Ann's father is John Maughan, but there is no mention of her mother, and I can't locate in IGI any DPOB date and place of birth for her parents. Robert Edwin Turnbull's parents are William Turnbull, b. 16 Oct 1759, Edinburgh Parish and Ann Maughan, b. abt 1760 .... (don't know the parish) William Turnbull and Ann Maughan married 17 Nov 1781 Edinburgh Parish If it's not too much to ask, is it an easy matter to look up deaths for the children of William Turnbull and Ann Maughan? Are spouses listed in the death registration? children - 1. William Turnbull, b. 25 Nov 1782, Edinburgh Parish 2. Ann Turnbull, b. 01 Dec 1783, Edinburgh Parish 3. James Turnbull, b. 03 Feb 1785, Edinburgh Parish 4. Manny Symington Turnbull, b. 05 Feb 1787, 5. John Turnbull, b. 17 May 1788, Edinburgh Parish 6. Peter Turnbull, b. 19 Jul 1790, Edinburgh Parish 7. ** Robert (Edwin) Turnbull, b. 16 Jun 1791, Edinburgh Parish - died Parramatta, Sydney, Australia 8. Richard Turnbull, b. 22 Jul 1792, Edinburgh Parish 9. John Turnbull, b. 23 Aug 1794, Edinburgh Parish 10 Thomas Turnbull, b. 23 Mar 1796, Edinburgh Parish 11. Malcolm Turnbull, b. 09 Oct 1797, Edinburgh Parish 12. Alexander Turnbull b. 25 Nov 1798, Edinburgh Parish Any help will be appreciated - and appreciated more, especially since I realise your efforts are voluntary Sincerely Paul Collins Sao Paulo ----- Original Message ----- From: Meg Greenwood To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Johnston/Thomson Mention of the 1855 Registrations brings me to remind all this List that the FHC where I volunteer has all of the 1855 Registrations for Edinburgh. All Births, Marriages and Deaths entered into the 1855 books are on film only 8 minutes from my house. I can look up any you might wish, Births and Marriages are reliable given in the IGI but not all the information was used, there is a lot more in the Registration than what's in the IGI, 1855 was a magical year for details on Registrations. 1856 and later the questions were lessened by about half. Deaths are a problem as they aren't in the IGI from the Registers, only Patron Submissions. If you have a ScotlandsPeople Index entry for 1855, I can get the details. These are the very same ones you'd get from ScotlandsPeople. If you know a PARISH in Edinburgh, I can check for a name in the Deaths, but only Deaths please. Births and Marriages are sufficiently covered in the IGI to figure out if a name is there. Very late entries in 1854 might be in the 1855 register. First few entries in every year's books for January usually were very late December events. Write personally and I'll send the details in the Registration, the handwritten entries used 2 pages in a Registration book beginning on the left, horizontally across the binding to the right side of the page but only about 5 lines were used vertically. So the entry was very short and very wide. Make your Subject line "Edinburgh Civil Registrations" even if you are asking about another county. It helps me keep track of where it came from since I have an agressive spam filter. Meg Greenwood / Oklahoma USA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am looking for a death of Margaret McGregor who was married to Angus Stewart in Canongate June 25,1834. The couple had 5 children that I know of: Peter 1833 Crieff, Angus 1835 Canongate,Alexander 1838 St. Cuthbert's, Janet 1840 St. Cuthbert's,William George 1843 St. Cuthbert's. The family is in the 1841 census for Edinburgh. By 1851, Angus Sr. is a widower. I have been able to trace Janet, Angus Jr. and William. John and Alexander disappear so may have died young. I'm interested in locating their deaths and their mother's death. Suggestions would be most welcome. Regards, Virginia

Hello List, Do anyone have George Paxton Hunter in their Family Tree Please, He was born February 1898 at North High Street, Musselburgh, Scotland. His parents were John Hunter and Margaret Paxton. Thank you in advance for any information I might receive. Kind Regards Pamela J Groves

Thank you for that - it explains why my people from Leith some miles away where all married at St Cuthberts, and christened as it happens, yet when we drove out to Leith we passed several other churches on the way, and as you say St Cuthberts is big but not that big. Liz >I'm by no means an expert on the Edinburgh parishes, but maybe this >is a good time to point out to people just how confusing "St >Cuthberts" can be. _________________________________________________________________ Txt a lot? Get Messenger FREE on your mobile. https://livemessenger.mobile.uk.msn.com/