On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:56:15 +1000, you wrote: >Good afternoon Listers, > [snip] >this time was living at 86 Grove Street, Edinburgh and at a guess this may [snip] This is of absolutely no help to you but I know the address. In fact 2 people in my tree by the name of Moncur were born there in 1920 & 1922 & another one died there in 1982. One idea might be to check the passenger lists for Canada then Census records, then postings on Canadian genealogy messageboards -- David

The 1911 census shows an Annie Brown, right age, in a rooming house in Toronto. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janice Doughty" <adoughty01@optusnet.com.au> To: <sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:13 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] BROWN & MILNE FAMILIES OF EDINBURGH > Hello David, > > Was the address at 86 Grove Street a private residence, or was it a > hospital? > > Ann Milne Brown's grandson, Bob was able to obtain a copy of Ann's birth > certificate and she was born at 6 Chalmer's Building in Edinburgh on 28th > My > 1885. I carried out a Google and found this on the Chalmer's Building:- > The > Chalmers Building, Fountainbridge Edinburgh, at a guess I suppose it was > apartments. > > I have joined The Ship List, and the same suggestions regarding searching > for Ann embarking on a ship for Canada, however if was informed that many > young ladies were leaving for the US and Canada from Glasgow and also > Liverpool as Domestics, the Lister advised me that she could not find an > Ann > Brown leaving from around 1910, nor on the 1911 Census. However, and idea > has come to mind that maybe Ann married in Edinburgh and sailed to Canada > with her new husband, she may have been in Canada for the 1911 Census, but > not under the name Brown. > > Thank you for your reply, I very much appreciate it. > > Regards, > Janice > Belrose - Sydney > Australia > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Millan" <dmmon.messageboards@ntlworld.com> > To: <sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:21 PM > Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] BROWN & MILNE FAMILIES OF EDINBURGH > > >> On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:56:15 +1000, you wrote: >> >>>Good afternoon Listers, >>> >> >> [snip] >>>this time was living at 86 Grove Street, Edinburgh and at a guess this >>>may >> [snip] >> >> This is of absolutely no help to you but I know the address. In fact 2 >> people in my tree by the name of Moncur were born there in 1920 & 1922 >> & another one died there in 1982. >> >> One idea might be to check the passenger lists for Canada then Census >> records, then postings on Canadian genealogy messageboards >> -- >> >> David >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.9/1637 - Release Date: 8/27/2008 > 7:01 AM >

Can anyone help find the date of birth of my ancestor Sergeant Peter Kay who was born in Midlothian around the late 1700s. He served in the European Regiment in India and died in Madras on 22 October 1831. He had two brothers - James Kay (who became a candlemaker in Glasgow), John Kay (a labourer) and a sister, Christian Kay, who married William Martin (weaver of Bridgeton, Glasgow). All help appreciated! Anne

Good evening Bob, Can you be more explicit as to the area you are interested in ? There were fishermen in Granton ,Newhaven, Leith, along with Fisherrow, Prestonpans and Port Seton just east along the coast. Regards John > Does anyone know if there are any lists available for the ministers that > served the fishermen around 1900? > Bob > >

Does anyone know if there are any lists available for the ministers that served the fishermen around 1900? Bob

Hi Listers I am knew to the list and am wondering if anyone can help me. It is a bit of a long shot but here goes. I am trying to find out if VIOLET CHARLESWORTH MUIR (b. 1915 in the Darvel area of Ayrshire) had any children from either of her two marriages and, if so, to make contact with any descendents. She married THOMAS LANGAN in 1936 in the Galston area of Ayrshire. I think he may have died in 1944. In 1953 she married SINCLAIR MURRAY in the Haymarket area of Edinburgh. She died in 1995 at Stenhouse Drive in Edinburgh. Sinclair died in 1999. Thank you for any help and if anyone can suggest anything else I can try, I am grateful for ideas. Clare in Yorkshire _________________________________________________________________ Win New York holidays with Kellogg’s & Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571440/direct/01/

G'day Cobbers, I'm trying to locate ancestors/descendants of the following family: Descendants of Bella GRANT & R J TAYLOR R J TAYLOR. He married Bella (Dot) GRANT, (daughter of David Johnson GRANT and Isabella Melvin (Bella) McLEAN) relationship : to KGB - Is the second cousin, once removed. Bella: >> The Ryerson Index:- TAYLOR, Bella (Dot); 20 JUN 1993; 71; Funl; late of Kyogle; 22 JUN 1993: LNS <http://www.rootsweb.com/~nswsdps/nsdths01.htm>. I. Irene TAYLOR, b. New South Wales, Australia. relationship : to KGB - Is the third cousin. II. Robert TAYLOR, b. New South Wales, Australia. relationship : to KGB - KGB - Is the third cousin. III. Russell TAYLOR, b. New South Wales, Australia. relationship : to KGB - Is the third cousin. IV. Graham TAYLOR, b. New South Wales, Australia. relationship : to KGB - Is the third cousin. Bella GRANT married R J TAYLOR in Scotland, most likely Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland, before migrating to Australia following her parents, David Johnson & Isabella Melvin (Bella) (nee McLEAN) GRANT. Any assistance with the above greatly appreciated. Regards Greg Baldwin Ferntree Gully, Victoria, Australia Homepage: http://member.melbpc.org.au/~kennethb/ Email: kennethb@melbpc.org.au All incoming & outgoing files & emails checked by VET Anti-Virus software. AIGS 9842 A&NESFHS 9933 Researching Surnames: ALLEN - Cornwall, ENG ASHMORE - Staffordshire/Warwickshire, ENG BAILEY - Plymouth, Eng>New Plymouth, Taranaki, NZ BALDWIN - Gloucester, Eng>New Zealand> Qld, AUS BEASLEY - Qld, AUS BENTON - Staffordshire/Warwickshire, ENG BIRCH - Yorkshire, Eng> Qld, AUS BRODIE - Parish of Boyndie, Banffshire, SCT BROWN - Wellington, NZ CADDICK - Staffordshire, ENG/Wales CAMERON - Black Isle, SCT CLARK - Rhynie & Essie, Aberdeen SCT COKER - Rongeta, Wellington, NZ COMBEY - India>Qld, AUS CROZIER - Banbridge, Down, NIR > NZ DANGERFIELD - Shropshire/Staffordshire, ENG DEAN - Elgin, Elgin, SCT EDWARDS - Cornwall, ENG EVANS - Shropshire, ENG FRANCES - AUS GRANT - Rhynie, Aberdeen, SCT INCH - Cornwall, ENG>NZ INGLIS - Banff/Moray, SCT LANGDON - NZ LAURANCE - Banff, SCT LEYLAND - Staffordshire/Warwickshire, ENG LUMSDEN - Banff, SCT>NZ MacDONALD - Inverness, SCT MASSEY - Down/Antrim, NIR>Qld, AUS MELVIN - Elgin, Elgin, SCT McFADDEN -Down, NIR McINTOSH - Inverness, SCT > Qld, AUS McINTOSH - Ross Shire, Scotland>Qld, AUS McKENZIE - Banff/Moray, SCT McLEAN - Garmouth, Moray, SCT>Qld, AUS McLEAVY - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS OLIVER - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS RAFFAN - Banff, SCT REEVES - Yorkshire (?), ENG RUNNALLS/REYNOLDS - Cornwall, ENG>AUS/NZ ROBERTSON - Ross & Cromarty, SCT RUDD - Westmoreland, Eng>Qld, AUS SIMKIN - Staffordshire/Warwickshire, ENG SIMPSON - Banff/Moray, SCT SMITH - SCT SPRENGER - Qld, AUS STUART - Moray, SCT WAKEFIELD - Stroud, Gloucester, Eng>Qld, AUS WARBURTON -Cheshire, Eng>New Plymouth, Taranaki, NZ WHITEHOUSE - Staffordshire/Warwick, ENG WILSON - Ayrshire, SCT>NZ WINN/WYNN - Shropshire, Staffordshire, ENG/Wales Human Rights Commission: http://humanrights.gov.au/bth/ The Ned Kelly Story: http://www.nedkellysworld.com.au/history/history.htm

G'day Cobbers, Looking for ancestors/descendants of the family below: Descendants of Elizabeth CLARKE & James CHRISTIE James CHRISTIE, b. in Huntly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland, relationship : to KGB -. He married Elizabeth CLARKE, married 08 Oct 1826 in Forgue, Aberdeenshire, Scotland, b. Abt 1805 in Rhynie, Parish of Rhynie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland (see note 1), (daughter of Jerome CLARK and Helen GRANT) relationship : to KGB - Is the great-great-great-great aunt. I. Robert CHRISTIE, b. Abt 1829, christened 31 Mar 1829 in Huntly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland, relationship : to KGB - first cousin, four times removed. II. William CHRISTIE, b. Abt 1830, christened 04 Sep 1830 in Huntly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland, d. Abt 1929 in Colac, Victoria, Australia, occupation 1851 - Labourer;. He married Helen (Ellen) CLARKE, married 11 Nov 1858 in Church of Scotland, Manda, Geelong, Victoria, Australia (see note 2), b. 17 Jun 1835, (daughter of David CLARKE and Jane BUIE) christened 11 Jul 1835 in Cairnie By Huntly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland, d. Abt 1923 in Colac, Victoria, Australia, relationship : [Is the first cousin, four times removed of KGB]. III. Alexander CHRISTIE, b. Abt 1831, christened 06 Dec 1831 in Huntly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland, d. 18 Aug 1912 in Linton, Victoria, Australia (see note 3), buried 20 Aug 1912 in Smythesdale Cemetery, Smythesdale, Victoria, Australia, occupation 1851 - Millwright Apprentice;. He married Margaret Simpson McDONALD, married Abt 1863 in Victoria, Australia, b. Abt 1840, (daughter of Andrew Sorley McDONALD and Margaret ADAM) d. Abt 1932 in Watta, Victoria, Australia. IV. John CHRISTIE, b. Abt 1833, christened Abt 15 Jun 1833 in Huntly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland, d. Abt 1908 in Buninyong, Victoria, Australia, occupation 1851 - Tailor Appr;. He married Margaret McFADZEAN, married Abt 1866 in Victoria, Australia, b. Abt 1843 in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland, (daughter of Thomas McFADZEAN and Jane MONAT) d. Abt 1901 in Buninyong, Victoria, Australia. V. Helen CHRISTIE, b. Abt 1835, christened 19 Mar 1835 in Huntly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland. VI. Charles Lenix CHRISTIE, b. Abt 1837, christened 19 Jan 1837 in Huntly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland. VII. Jerome CHRISTIE, b. Abt 1838, christened 08 Jul 1838 in Huntly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland. VIII. James CHRISTIE, b. Abt 1840, christened 12 Aug 1840 in Huntly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland. IX. David CHRISTIE, b. 27 Apr 1850, christened 27 Apr 1850 in Huntly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland. Any assistance greatly appreciated. Regards Greg Baldwin Ferntree Gully, Victoria, Australia Homepage: http://member.melbpc.org.au/~kennethb/ Email: kennethb@melbpc.org.au Helen's Stolen Generation Radio Program: http://www.abc.net.au/rn/history/hindsight/default.htm All incoming & outgoing files & emails checked by VET Anti-Virus software. AIGS 9842 A&NESFHS 9933 Researching Surnames: BIRCH - Yorkshire, Eng> Qld, AUS BRODIE - Parish of Boyndie, Banffshire, SCT CAMERON - Black Isle, SCT CLARK - Rhynie & Essie, Aberdeen SCT DEAN - Elgin, Elgin, Scotland GRANT - Rhynie, Aberdeen, SCT INGLIS - Banff/Moray, SCT LAURANCE - Banff, SCT LUMSDEN - Banff, SCT>New Zealand MASSON - Ross Shire>Ayrshire, SCT MacDONALD - Inverness, SCT MELVIN - Elgin, Elgin, Scotland McINTOSH - Inverness, SCT > Qld, AUS McINTOSH - Ross Shire, Scotland>Qld, AUS McKENZIE - Banff/Moray, SCT McLEAN - Garmouth, Moray, SCT>Qld, AUS McLEAVY - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS OLIVER - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS PROCTOR - Elgin, Moray, SCT RAFFAN - Banff, SCT ROBERTSON - Ross & Cromarty, SCT SIMPSON - Banff/Moray, SCT SMITH - SCT STUART - Moray, SCT SUTHERLAND - Moray, SCT WILSON - Ayr, SCT>New Zealand Human Rights Commission: http://humanrights.gov.au/bth/

John Stevenson, Thanks for comments. I have been so fortunate to have located the 100 letters written by my ancestor's adoptive mother beginning 1824 when she married her 1st husband til shortly before her death in about 1877. The sister's husband was a generation older, being same age as the adoptive parents, was a newspaper editor in New Orleans, Louisiana. Being a writer he left two large diaries which are in the archives of small college in Texas. One concerned the family relating his wife's illness, the deaths of 5 of his 7 children and the death of my Thomas Clark. But nothing about the Clark parents in Edinburgh. There was a note that he had written to a relative of the Clark's mother tell of the death of my Thomas and his sister who died two weeks apart in 1866. Jean ------Original Message------ From: John Stevenson Sender: sct-edinburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com To: sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com ReplyTo: sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com Sent: Aug 7, 2008 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] recording of baptisms by unordained persons Good evening Ian, Thanks for your interesting reply. I checked , today, with a couple of colleagues who are more into Church of Scotland matters than me re "lay baptism's" and they came up with virtually the same answer as you have mentioned in your second paragraph . Have been watching the comments with interest ! One point that some are missing is that research into no matter what subject/field cannot be catagorised . I have learned over the 20 years I have been working as a professional researcher that "research knows no bounds" when looking for facts - you use every facet available !! Superstition played a great part in 18th/19th family life especially among the Scottish fishing communites and its importance cannot be ignored . A number of the posts on this and the many other "Lists" I am a member of are of no interest to me and I just exercise my right to use the delete button !!!!! Good luck with your searches ! Regards John John D. Stevenson Trinity Research Services, Edinburgh Scottish Maritime History Research Est 1989 johndee.ships@btinternet.com Snip > Thanks for providing the background links. > > In the first link, I found this: > QUOTE > baptism may be validly administered by a person who is not ordained, > always providing that it is administered in the name of the Father > and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, with water. In every > occurrence of the latter case, of which a minister or chaplain > becomes aware, an entry shall be made in the appropriate Baptismal > Register and where possible reported to the Clerk of the Presbytery > within which the baptism was administered. > END QUOTE > > So the "appropriate Baptismal Register" referred to, is actually the > standard parish register for all baptisms, rather than a separate > register for lay baptisms? The quoted text doesn't really make that > clear. Probably it was a very uncommon event, but do you know if > there would be a standard notation distinguishing these baptisms from > "normal" ones? Most notations or marginalia that I have seen in > baptismal registers relate to the various euphemisms for > illegitimacy, or list an actual birth date for the person. > > regards, > Ian Martin > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld

Here is one page of 1855 Births in St. Giles. Did a lookup for Pam, she needed the Gilmour one. There are 5 on one page, here are all the names and all the data.... Meg Greenwood / Oklahoma USA ====================== 1855 Births, St Giles, Edinburgh Entry #781 - William Harry MURPHY born Oct 19, 11:30pm at Maternity Hospital, Edinburgh to Harry MURPHY, Corporal First Dragoon Guards, 26y born Canterbury [who was present at the birth] and Alice MURPHY ms ANDERSON, this was her 1st child, 25y born Kelso. They wed 1854 in Edinburgh. Informant was John SIBBALD, MD, House Surgeon. Registered Oct 24, Edinburgh. Dav. Beatson, Registrar. Entry #782 - Thomas GRANT born Oct 4, 8am at 165 Cowgate, Edinburgh to Thomas GRANT, Shoemaker, 22y born County Leitrim, Ireland and Catherine GRANT ms MURPHY, this was her 2nd child, 27y born county Monaghan, Ireland. They wed 1852 In Edinburgh and had 1 boy living before this birth. Informant was Catherine GRANT, her mark [X] Witnesses to signature were Sam. Laing, Ass't Reg'r and David Myles, Writer. Registered Oct 24, Edinburgh. Dav. Beatson, Registrar. Entry #783 - Myles DUFFY born Oct 22, 3am at College Wynd, Edinburgh to Owen DUFFY Agricultural Labourer, 30y born County Leitrim, Ireland [who was present the birth] and Elizabeth DUFFY ms CHRISTIE. This was her 2nd child, 22y born County Leitirm, Ireland. They had 1 boy living before this birth. Informant was the mother, Catherine CHRISTIE, her mark [X] witnessed by Sam. Laing, Ass't Reg and David Myles, Writer. Registered Oct 26, Edinburgh. Dav. Beatson, Registrar. Entry #784 Ann GILMOUR born Oct 8, 4pm at 117 High Street, Edinburgh to John Leslie GILMOUR, Shirt Cutter, 22y born Glasgow and Margaret GILMOUR ms COCHRANE. This was her 1st child, she was 21y born Edinburgh. They wed 1854 in Edinburgh. Informant was the father who signed, he was not present at the birth. Registered Oct 26 at Edinburgh, Dav. Beatson, Registrar. Entry #785 - John McDERMID born Oct 12, 8am at 21 College Wynd, Edinburgh to Terence McDERMID, Tailor, 27y born County Leitrim, Ireland [who was present at the birth] and Rose McDERMID ms FLYNN, this was her 1st child, 21y born County Longford, Ireland. They wed 1854 in Edinburgh. Informant was the mother Mary FLYNN, her mark [X] witnessed by Sam. Laing, Ass't Reg and David Myles, Writer. Registered Oct 26, Edinburgh. Dav. Beatson, Registrar. ========================

Chris Re Braidwood and Fowler. Have you tried looking up Tom X in the 1871 Scottish Census to see what his occupation was in 1871? I 'Googled' Braidwood and Fowler but found nothing. Rhoda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Godfrey" <ty_celyn@hotmail.com> To: <sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 1:03 AM Subject: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Edinburgh businesses (1850-1880s) > > Hi List > > I would to find information, or sources of information, about some > businesses referred to in family papers dated 8 March 1884. > > 1) Circa 1850s - She received her education in Stenton and "finished with > accomplishments under Mr Oliphant Edin" Was Mr Oliphant a private tutor or > did he have a school in Edinburgh? Is he or his school listed in any > city/business/education directories? > > 2) Circa 1872 - "Tom went to Braidwood and Fowler as an apprentice." What > business did Braidwood and Fowler engage in? I believe this person later > worked in New Zealand as an insurance agent. > > 3) Circa 1874 - The family moved to top flat of 23 Lauriston Gardens, > Edinburgh where the children attended the "Merchant Company's schools" > Looking at an older map I believe I have identified a school with a > similar name near Lauriston Gardens but I am not sure if it took both boys > & girls or if there was separate schools for boys & girls. > > 4) circa 1883 - "Sam left home for Govan Glasgow and remained working for > 5 months in Elders engineering yards" I know this is not Edinburgh but I'm > including it anyway. This person later worked as a marine engineer and a > boiler inspector. Was Govan a school or a business? > > 5) circa 1884 - "James in Laird & Sons Seedsman & Florist" > > Any clues about any of these businesses & schools in terms of location, > owners, years of operation, etc. would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks in advance. > Kind regards, > Chris Godfrey > British Columbia, Canada > > _________________________________________________________________ > Try Chicktionary, a game that tests how many words you can form from the > letters given. Find this and more puzzles at Live Search Games! > http://g.msn.ca/ca55/207 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Good morning Chris, > 2) Circa 1872 - "Tom went to Braidwood and Fowler as an apprentice." What > business did Braidwood and Fowler engage in? I believe this person later > worked in New Zealand as an insurance agent. Wholesale and retail tea dealers , 1 Sandport Street , Leith > 4) circa 1883 - "Sam left home for Govan Glasgow and remained working for > 5 months in Elders engineering yards" I know this is not Edinburgh but I'm > including it anyway. This person later worked as a marine engineer and a > boiler inspector. Was Govan a school or a business? Randolph Elder's shipyard and engine builders at Govan , Glasgow were formed in 1852 . Renamed John Elder & Co , by his wife, on Joh's death in 1869. The company later became Fairfield shipbuilding & Engineering Co. > 5) circa 1884 - "James in Laird & Sons Seedsman & Florist" Laird's had a shop at 14A Frederick Street , Edinburgh.from C1870 to at least 1875 They had Nurseries at Pinkhill and Meadowpath , both Corstorphine Also owned the Royal Winter Garden's ,West Coates , Edinburgh Trust this is of some help Regards John John D. Stevenson Edinburgh

Hi Chris I can give you some info about a couple of your questions: - 3. Merchant Company Schools, they are still in existence as Erskine Stewart's Melville Schools, the website being www.esms.edin.sch.uk/me.aspx Mary Erskine founded a school for girls which started in Lauriston and was there between 1818 and 1871 when it moved to Queen Street. The other schools were Daniel Stewart's College and Melville College (boys only)which merged some 30 odd years ago and George Watson's College (mixed, but originally with a separate school for boys and girls). Erskines merged with 'StewMel' to become ESMS. 4. Govan is an area of Glasgow which is well known for its shipbuilding yards, now sadly in decline. Hope this helps David McGill Hook Norton, Oxfordshire ----- Original Message ----- From: <sct-edinburgh-request@rootsweb.com> To: <sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:01 AM Subject: SCT-EDINBURGH Digest, Vol 3, Issue 146 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Edinburgh businesses (1850-1880s) (Chris Godfrey) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:03:19 -0700 > From: Chris Godfrey <ty_celyn@hotmail.com> > Subject: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Edinburgh businesses (1850-1880s) > To: <sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <BAY104-W46BA13449B9F76F2C97F74E0700@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Hi List > > I would to find information, or sources of information, about some > businesses referred to in family papers dated 8 March 1884. > > 1) Circa 1850s - She received her education in Stenton and "finished with > accomplishments under Mr Oliphant Edin" Was Mr Oliphant a private tutor or > did he have a school in Edinburgh? Is he or his school listed in any > city/business/education directories? > > 2) Circa 1872 - "Tom went to Braidwood and Fowler as an apprentice." What > business did Braidwood and Fowler engage in? I believe this person later > worked in New Zealand as an insurance agent. > > 3) Circa 1874 - The family moved to top flat of 23 Lauriston Gardens, > Edinburgh where the children attended the "Merchant Company's schools" > Looking at an older map I believe I have identified a school with a > similar name near Lauriston Gardens but I am not sure if it took both boys > & girls or if there was separate schools for boys & girls. > > 4) circa 1883 - "Sam left home for Govan Glasgow and remained working for > 5 months in Elders engineering yards" I know this is not Edinburgh but I'm > including it anyway. This person later worked as a marine engineer and a > boiler inspector. Was Govan a school or a business? > > 5) circa 1884 - "James in Laird & Sons Seedsman & Florist" > > Any clues about any of these businesses & schools in terms of location, > owners, years of operation, etc. would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks in advance. > Kind regards, > Chris Godfrey > British Columbia, Canada > > _________________________________________________________________ > Try Chicktionary, a game that tests how many words you can form from the > letters given. Find this and more puzzles at Live Search Games! > http://g.msn.ca/ca55/207 > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the SCT-EDINBURGH list administrator, send an email to > SCT-EDINBURGH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the SCT-EDINBURGH mailing list, send an email to > SCT-EDINBURGH@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of SCT-EDINBURGH Digest, Vol 3, Issue 146 > ********************************************* >

Hi List I would to find information, or sources of information, about some businesses referred to in family papers dated 8 March 1884. 1) Circa 1850s - She received her education in Stenton and "finished with accomplishments under Mr Oliphant Edin" Was Mr Oliphant a private tutor or did he have a school in Edinburgh? Is he or his school listed in any city/business/education directories? 2) Circa 1872 - "Tom went to Braidwood and Fowler as an apprentice." What business did Braidwood and Fowler engage in? I believe this person later worked in New Zealand as an insurance agent. 3) Circa 1874 - The family moved to top flat of 23 Lauriston Gardens, Edinburgh where the children attended the "Merchant Company's schools" Looking at an older map I believe I have identified a school with a similar name near Lauriston Gardens but I am not sure if it took both boys & girls or if there was separate schools for boys & girls. 4) circa 1883 - "Sam left home for Govan Glasgow and remained working for 5 months in Elders engineering yards" I know this is not Edinburgh but I'm including it anyway. This person later worked as a marine engineer and a boiler inspector. Was Govan a school or a business? 5) circa 1884 - "James in Laird & Sons Seedsman & Florist" Any clues about any of these businesses & schools in terms of location, owners, years of operation, etc. would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Kind regards, Chris Godfrey British Columbia, Canada _________________________________________________________________ Try Chicktionary, a game that tests how many words you can form from the letters given. Find this and more puzzles at Live Search Games! http://g.msn.ca/ca55/207

Our house looks across to the Western Tiers and we've had a dumping of snow overnight and today. It's 1713 at the moment and 5.4c outside. Sandy (Tasmania) ----- Original Message ----- From: "RayRob" <sedlar2000@yahoo.com> To: <sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] OT Christchurch NZ > AYE > Rob > > --- On Sat, 8/9/08, a.stevenson <alistairandsandy@bigpond.com> wrote: > From: a.stevenson <alistairandsandy@bigpond.com> > Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] OT Christchurch NZ > To: sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 7:57 PM > > And a beautiful part of the world it is. Sandy (Tasmania) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janet Miller" <janetmiller@slingshot.co.nz> > To: <sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 12:21 PM > Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] REGISTER OF NEGLECTED ENTRIES 1801- 1854 > > >> Thanks Jacquie >> Amazing how there is always something else to look out for. Thanks or >> the clarification. >> >> Thanks again John >> Will make a point of seeing you at the Society next time over. >> It was -2 here last night John and the mountains are covered in snow. >> They look pretty today from a distance. >> Cheers >> Janet >> Christchurch New Zealand >> >> Jacquie wrote: >> >>>This is from ScotlandsPeople: >>> >>>RNE stands for Register of Neglected Entries. ... These appear at the > end >>>of the microfilm of the >>>appropriate parish register and are included in the OPR indexes on this > >>>site. >>> >>>Jacquie >>>Winnipeg, MB >>>Canada >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: sct-edinburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com >>>[mailto:sct-edinburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of >>>John Stevenson >>>Sent: August 9, 2008 3:12 PM >>>To: sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com >>>Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] REGISTER OF NEGLECTED ENTRIES 1801- 1854 >>> >>>Suggest you contact "Scotland's People" for guidence - as > I say never use >>>the facility. >>>Regards >>>John >>> >>>John D. Stevenson >>>Edinburgh >>>My second home being NZ !!!!!!! >>> >>> >>> >>>------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the >>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>>No virus found in this incoming message. >>>Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>>Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.0/1602 - Release Date: > 9/08/2008 >>>1:22 p.m. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Greetings from Australia I'm researching the following family below. Would like to make contact with anyone else researching this family to anyone who could help look for them in Scottish Records. John Leslie GILMOUR born circa 1833 Glasgow married Margaret COCHRANE born circa 1836 Edinburgh. They immigrated to Australia circa 1866. Children: Ann GILMOUR born 18 Oct 1855 Edinburgh, possibly died Edinburgh before 1886 Margarate Smith GILMOUR born 16 Sep 1857 Edinburgh William Leslie GILMOUR born 3 Oct 1860, possibly died Edinburgh before 1886 Mary Cochrane GILMOUR born 19 Sep 1862 Edinburgh Thank you Pam Veenstra

Thanks Jacquie Amazing how there is always something else to look out for. Thanks or the clarification. Thanks again John Will make a point of seeing you at the Society next time over. It was -2 here last night John and the mountains are covered in snow. They look pretty today from a distance. Cheers Janet Christchurch New Zealand Jacquie wrote: >This is from ScotlandsPeople: > >RNE stands for Register of Neglected Entries. ... These appear at the end of the microfilm of the >appropriate parish register and are included in the OPR indexes on this site. > >Jacquie >Winnipeg, MB >Canada > >-----Original Message----- >From: sct-edinburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-edinburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of >John Stevenson >Sent: August 9, 2008 3:12 PM >To: sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] REGISTER OF NEGLECTED ENTRIES 1801- 1854 > >Suggest you contact "Scotland's People" for guidence - as I say never use >the facility. >Regards >John > >John D. Stevenson >Edinburgh >My second home being NZ !!!!!!! > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.0/1602 - Release Date: 9/08/2008 1:22 p.m. > > > > >

Not exactly South America but my ancestor Georgina McKinlay died 31 Jan 1948 "Missing on lost aircraft on way to Havana Cuba to visit her sister. She was born in Leith, Midlothian. Anyone with access to Leith newspapers around that time? Tom Wallace San Francisco **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

And a beautiful part of the world it is. Sandy (Tasmania) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Miller" <janetmiller@slingshot.co.nz> To: <sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] REGISTER OF NEGLECTED ENTRIES 1801- 1854 > Thanks Jacquie > Amazing how there is always something else to look out for. Thanks or > the clarification. > > Thanks again John > Will make a point of seeing you at the Society next time over. > It was -2 here last night John and the mountains are covered in snow. > They look pretty today from a distance. > Cheers > Janet > Christchurch New Zealand > > Jacquie wrote: > >>This is from ScotlandsPeople: >> >>RNE stands for Register of Neglected Entries. ... These appear at the end >>of the microfilm of the >>appropriate parish register and are included in the OPR indexes on this >>site. >> >>Jacquie >>Winnipeg, MB >>Canada >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: sct-edinburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com >>[mailto:sct-edinburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of >>John Stevenson >>Sent: August 9, 2008 3:12 PM >>To: sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com >>Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] REGISTER OF NEGLECTED ENTRIES 1801- 1854 >> >>Suggest you contact "Scotland's People" for guidence - as I say never use >>the facility. >>Regards >>John >> >>John D. Stevenson >>Edinburgh >>My second home being NZ !!!!!!! >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.0/1602 - Release Date: 9/08/2008 >>1:22 p.m. >> >> >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you John, for that link. I may have found a lead. best regards, Ian Martin On 09 Aug, 2008, at 4:03 PM, sct-edinburgh-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 20:36:27 +0100 > From: "John Stevenson" <johndee.ships@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] a mystery: Edinburgh area ancestor died > in SouthAmerica? > To: <sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <002601c8fa57$379130e0$0201a8c0@nb8c77t523p89tj> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Good evening Ian, > Have had some success with Mariners in Sth America using this website > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/scotsinargpat/brief.htm > > The legal period before a death abroad could be formally > "declared" in > 18/19thC varied considerably depending the circumstances / date. > Most of my knowledge on this is maritime related > If a person died aboard a British ship prior to 1874 the master was > "instructed" to report the death to the British Consul at the > first port of > arrival after the incident. > This was so loose an instruction a statute was drawn up whereby the > Master > could be fined for not reporting a death. > It was then up to the Consul to send details to London Registry Office > In the case of a Scot they would then be forwarded to Edinburgh > Register > Office. > It depended on the "place of domicile for the previous four years " . > This meant a Scot living in England for more than four years and dying > abroad would have his death registered in London. Likewise an > Englishman > domiciled in Scotland.would be registered in Edinburgh > You can see from that it could take a considerable time for all the > relevant > information to reach the correct place !. > I have many instances of wills taking up to four years to clear due > to a > death abroad. > Trust this is of some help > Good luck > Regards > John >