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Dear Listers, After many years of searching I discovered that my grandfather had lived for many years in Glasgow. He died there in 1999. I received information from people who knew him by sending a letter to the local newspaper. Some of the received information puzzles me and maybe somebody on the list can enlighten me to the ins and outs of the Scottish legal system. I was told that my grandfather could not have a gravestone because no next of kin could be contacetd or identified. Is this statement correct? The other matter is that a person with the Stenhouse surname claiming to be my grandfather's cousin, claimed the remains of my grandfathers estate. (He did not buy a gravestone). The solicitor who handled my grandfathers estate said that he could not let me have the name of the person who claimed the remains of the estate. It just so happens that I have copies of pages from a family bible. It states there that my grandfathers only uncle died before he got married and therefore could not have had any children of his own. This means that a cousin with the Stenhouse surname could not have existed. Or am I wrong? Could any listers please advise me on the matters above. Thank you, Best Wishes, From, Michael in Norway. ------------------------------------------------- WebMail fra Tele2 http://www.tele2.no -------------------------------------------------

Opps, I forgot to add the link. http://www.uk.olivesoftware.com Thanks Barabara (MLN list) for putting me right. Just a bit snowed under, with my kids off Kindi & High School, plus work... John Dods Wellington, NZ >Hi the British Library, has some Newspapers on-line. >This is a trial. >The search results bring some odd stuff, like I got an item mentioning dogs >while seaching >DODS! :-) >Still it's free and somebody out there might something of use. > >keep chipping at those brickwalls and eventualy some fall down. > >John Dods >Wellington, New Zealand > > >==== SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN Mailing List ==== >Share your record transcripts by entering them in the Scotland BDM Exchange today. Go to http://www.sctbdm.com/ to search or submit births, deaths, and marriages. > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

I'm no expert in this field at all Michael. Sounds to me like you need legal counsel. Good Luck, Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: <michael.stenhouse@c2i.net> To: <SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 8:52 AM Subject: [SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN] DO I ACCEPT THIS INFORMATION > Dear Listers, > After many years of searching I discovered that my grandfather had lived for many years in Glasgow. He died there in 1999. > I received information from people who knew him by sending a letter to the local newspaper. > Some of the received information puzzles me and maybe somebody on the list can enlighten me to the ins and outs of the Scottish legal system. > I was told that my grandfather could not have a gravestone because no next of kin could be contacetd or identified. Is this statement correct? > The other matter is that a person with the Stenhouse surname claiming to be my grandfather's cousin, claimed the remains of my grandfathers estate. (He did not buy a gravestone). The solicitor who handled my grandfathers estate said that he could not let me have the name of the person who claimed the remains of the estate. It just so happens that I have copies of pages from a family bible. It states there that my grandfathers only uncle died before he got married and therefore could not have had any children of his own. This means that a cousin with the Stenhouse surname could not have existed. Or am I wrong? > Could any listers please advise me on the matters above. > Thank you, > > Best Wishes, > From, > > Michael > in > Norway. > > ------------------------------------------------- > WebMail fra Tele2 http://www.tele2.no > ------------------------------------------------- > > > ==== SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN Mailing List ==== > Have you checked out GenUKI? The URL for the East Lothian page of this fine site is http://freespace.virgin.net/david.howie/genuki/ELN/index.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XeC.2ACI/952.952 Message Board Post: Karen, I have Andrew Napier Burgoyne in my family tree he was my grandfather. My mother was Mary Helen Black Burgoyne and she lived 32 Castle Street, Dunbar. My Uncle Andrew (from West Barnes) died only a few years ago. I have just started doing our family tree and I am happy to share any information and certificate just let me know. You can email me on tarran2@optusnet.com.au bettar56@hotmail.com

It's been a while since I've posted my interests. William TAIT, c.1762 in Humbie, married Isabell CHISHOLM (dob c. 1766 Humbie) James TAIT b 1788 Humbie, married Jean (Jane) ROBERTSON John TAIT b 1790 Humbie, married 1) Katherine BROTHERSTONE 2) Janet BROWN Catharine TAIT b 1791 Humbie Thomas TAIT b 1794 Humbie Jean TAIT b 1798 Humbie Isabel TAIT b 1800 Humbie, marrie George KEPPY Charles TAIT b 1802 Humbie Margaret TAIT b 1805 Humbie Happy New Year, Lynn

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Harkes, Bogue, Stenhouse, Watt, Sword, Sheriff, Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XeC.2ACI/443.446.462 Message Board Post: I have a Thomas Watt/Christiana Stenhouse (b:abt. 1781) whose son John Watt married Elizabeth (Bogg?) Bogue. June 21, 1821 one of the daughters - Alison - married George Harkes April 30, 1870. Any possible link? Regards, Bert

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Harkes, Bogue, Stenhouse, Watt, word, Sheriff, Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XeC.2ACI/443.446.461 Message Board Post: I have a Thomas Watt/Christiana Stenhouse (b:abt. 1781) whose son John Watt married Elizabeth (Bogg?) Bogue. June 21, 1821 one of the daughters - Alison - married George Harkes April 30, 1870. Any possible link? Regards, Bert

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XeC.2ACI/247.675.3 Message Board Post: My great grandfather was Robert Loch Scott and his wife was Isabella Marr b.1865 - d.1951. They are buried in Innerleithen Cemetery in Scotland. I believe he came from North Berwick and possibly so did she. Please let me know if you have a connection. Thanks.

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Hi the British Library, has some Newspapers on-line. This is a trial. The search results bring some odd stuff, like I got an item mentioning dogs while seaching DODS! :-) Still it's free and somebody out there might something of use. keep chipping at those brickwalls and eventualy some fall down. John Dods Wellington, New Zealand

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Anderson McFarlane Harrigan Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XeC.2ACI/1192 Message Board Post: James Anderson (Scotland) married Elizabeth ?. They had four children: Maggie, Jim, Alfred and David Daniel (1880-1958). In 1910, David Anderson married Johanna "Hanna" McFarlane (1887-1973). They had four kids: Beth (1912-1987), James (1923-1934), Daniel (1916-1971) and William (1914-1993). Johanna McFarlane's parents were Daniel McFarlane (1854-1930) and Mary Harrigan (1856-1936). They were married in 1885. Daniel was from Ireland and Mary from Scotland. They had Hanna, William (1889), Maggie (1883), Dinah (1891-1972), Caroline (1891-1892), Susan (1885), Mary (1893) and Carrie (1885-1886). Any information on James Anderson, Elizabeth ?, Daniel McFarlane or Mary Harrigan would be appreciated. Email me at rick.d.anderson@tektronix.com.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Monchamp Ballon Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XeC.2ACI/1191 Message Board Post: Searching for information on Antoine Monchamp (1858-1939) who married Virginie Ballon (1862-1929). Came from France to Norte Dame de Lourdes, Canada. Had several siblings: Jean (1882-1918), Maria (1886-1950), Rosalie (1890-1956), Pierra (1894-1969), Rosa (1891-1947), Leoucie. Jean and a few others immigrated with them from France. Jean married Rachel Bibault in 1907. If you have any information, let me know: rick.d.anderson@tektronix.com. Thanks.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bibault Monchamp Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XeC.2ACI/1190 Message Board Post: Searching for information on Theophile Bibault (born in France, moved to Norte Dame de Lourdes, Canada) and potentially moved back. His wife, unknown, died in 1918. Two daughters, Rachel (1892-1937), married Jean Monchamp (1882-1918) and Gabriel (1907-1975). If you have information, email me at rick.d.anderson@tektronix.com.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Peterson, Pierson, Warra Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XeC.2ACI/1189 Message Board Post: Searching for history of Helge Peterson (1888-1947; brothers Ernest and Emil; sisters Elizabeth and unknown). Came to US in early 1900's. Previously known as Pierson. Helge married Kate Warra (1894-1971; died in Long Beach, Washington State; brothers and sisters included Charles, John, Dan, Ida, Ester, Hilga, Paul and 5 others). Helge and Kate has a single daughter in 1917, Doris Peterson, who married Sylvan Schierman. Email me at rick.d.anderson@tektronix.com if you have information. Thanks.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Poffenroth Schierman Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XeC.2ACI/1188 Message Board Post: Searching for history of Anna Poffenroth (1891-1959), married to Henry Schierman (1888-?). Email me at rick.d.anderson@tektronix.com if you have info.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Marr Robertson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XeC.2ACI/247.675.1.2 Message Board Post: Hello Ann, Interested to read of your relation to Annie Marr and John Robertson. I too am a descendant of this couple. My research goes back as follows: Annie Marr b.24.1.1868 Dunbar m.23.8.1889 Leith. John Davidson Phillips Robertson b.20.3.1864 Edin. (car driver/coach washer/coachman)d.6.3.1931 RIE cer.haem. had a son 2.12.1903 Edin. George Robertson(my Grandfather) m.Rose Norris 9.12.1927. d.31.7.1957 Annie Marr's Parents: Robert Marr,fisherman/pilot/shipmaster b.?c.1802?Dunbar m.12.9.1852 Dunbar. d.7.9.1875 Dunbar palsy(Parents Robert Marr(fisherman)Russell Martha Sloan b.?Irelandc.1820 d.13.12 1912 Pitcox senility(Parents William Sloan(drainer),Janet Coleman John Robertson's Parents: Robert Robertson (corporal in the H.B.L&P militia, stableman,postmasters coachman),b.? c.1834?m.26.3.1856 Dunbar d.12.8.1884 RIE peritonitis. (Parents Robert Robertson,(quarryman). Agnes Brash,m.25.8.1822 Kirkliston) Agnes Phillips b.?c.1830 d.8.9.1904 Edin. heart dis. (Parents Alexander Phillips (Seaman)b.6.10.1801 Dunbar(parents Thomas Phillips,Agnes Matthew) m.3.9.1826 Dunbar Marion Fain b.?c.1798 (Parents Thomas Fain,Isobel __) d. 23.6.1855 Dunbar phthisis. I'm interested in where you got the stories of what Annie and John were like. Bruce.

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Can I just thank everyone for the marvellous response to the "Gigman" occupation. The general consensus would appear to be someone who pulls or pushes coal to the face in a 2 wheel "Bucket". unless someone knows different????? Special thanks to Jill, for the song notation, I bet you sing it just as well. Merry Xmas to everybody. Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: <EastLothianGen@aol.com> To: <SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 4:30 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN] Job titles > In a message dated 12/22/03 4:29:26 AM Central Standard Time, > annehamilton@ntlworld.com writes: > Looking it up in the dictionary, it says that a gigman is one who drives or > keeps a gig (which is a 2 wheeled carriage). > Of course, it makes sense to me now! Some of us are too modern for our own > good, perhaps. Guess we should've turned to the dictionary the first time > 'round. I'm assuming that any mining operation worth it's stuff would have some > type of transport, perhaps for the supervisors or bosses or to send messages? > And I'm reminded of a verse from a song in the musical Oklahoma: "When I > take you out, tonight, with me, Honey, here's the way it's goin' to be: You will > set behind a team of snow white horses, In the slickest gig you ever see!" > (From Surrey with the Fringe on Top) > > Let me take this opportunity to wish you all a blessed Christmas season and a > happy New Year! > > Jill Clark > listowner, SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN > > > ==== SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN Mailing List ==== > Here is a partial list of the parishes of Haddingtonshire: Aberlady, Athelstaneford, Bara, Bolton, Dirleton, Dunbar, Garvald, Gifford, Gladsmuir, Haddington, Humbie, Innerwick, Morham, North Berwick > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

According to http://www.dmm.org.uk/educate/mineocc.htm (really informative site - Durham influenced rather than Scottish so not sure if the terminology remains the same). However... DRAWER - 1894: A waggoner or person who pushes underground tubs RUNNER - 1894: Pusher of mine waggons RUNNER IN - 1894: Person who puts waggons into the cage at the bottom of the pit Happy Holidays Regards Anne // > Didn't they have to have wheeled transport (sometimes on tracks) inside the > mine as well? It must have been an 'occupation' to move the coal from the > drilling site to the shaft?? Anybody? > Elizabeth Dods // // > > Looking it up in the dictionary, it says that a gigman is one who drives > or > > keeps a gig (which is a 2 wheeled carriage). // // > > Of course, it makes sense to me now! Some of us are too modern for our > own > > good, perhaps. Guess we should've turned to the dictionary the first time > > 'round. I'm assuming that any mining operation worth it's stuff would > have some > > type of transport, perhaps for the supervisors or bosses or to send > messages? > > And I'm reminded of a verse from a song in the musical Oklahoma: "When I > > take you out, tonight, with me, Honey, here's the way it's goin' to be: > You will > > set behind a team of snow white horses, In the slickest gig you ever see!" > > (From Surrey with the Fringe on Top) > > > > Let me take this opportunity to wish you all a blessed Christmas season > and a > > happy New Year! > > > > Jill Clark > > listowner, SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN //