Maisie asked, " Can anyone elaborate on the pottery industry in Prestonpans?" Hi Maisie, "Prestonpans in Old Picture Postcards" says that a tradition of wheel thrown-pottery existed as far back as the thirteenth century in East Lothian. Regarding Prestonpans- "The potteries were famous for brown teapots, earthenware pipes and 'sanitary ware', but they also made decorative figurines and fine china tableware, now keenly sought by collectors. One interesting product was the disposable pie-dish, sold with the pie, an early break-through for the throw-away society." Pam Hamlyn New Zealand

Thanks, also, for this extra information, Pam. I went to Google to try to see if I could find anything that would verify the potteries in that region, but maybe my mental "index" wasn't working as I couldn't find anything. I'll copy this and put it with my Hillcoat workpages. I appreciate the effort you took to send this. I wish I could reciprocate in kind. Maisie -----Original Message----- From: Pam Hamlyn [mailto:hamlyna@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 11:16 AM To: SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN] Prestonpans Potteries Maisie asked, " Can anyone elaborate on the pottery industry in Prestonpans?" Hi Maisie, "Prestonpans in Old Picture Postcards" says that a tradition of wheel thrown-pottery existed as far back as the thirteenth century in East Lothian. Regarding Prestonpans- "The potteries were famous for brown teapots, earthenware pipes and 'sanitary ware', but they also made decorative figurines and fine china tableware, now keenly sought by collectors. One interesting product was the disposable pie-dish, sold with the pie, an early break-through for the throw-away society." Pam Hamlyn New Zealand ==== SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN Mailing List ==== Look for Haddingtonshire villages and parishes in the Statistical Accounts of Scotland online: http://edina.ac.uk/cgi/StatAcc/StatAcc.cgi ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Dear listers, I found this comment when I clicked on to Prestonpans, East Lothian, on Google. "In the past the area relied heavily on coal mining in the past. Other industries were also important in the town, including the salt works, soap- making, brewing, brick-making and pottery." Can anyone elaborate on the pottery industry in Prestonpans? My forebear Robert Hillcoat was born in Prestonpans, and is listed as a potter. His wife was Margaret Wylie from either Newcastle-upon-Tyne or Durham. Robert's parents were Anthony Hillcoat and Helen Watson, residing in Prestonpans mid-1700s. I do not know, however, if they were from Prestonpans originally. The Hillcoat descendants thereafter ended up in Paisley, Greenock and Glasgow as potters and weavers. This makes me wonder if the pottery industry in Prestonpans might not have been too successful. I would appreciate any additional information. Maisie Egger (formerly from Glasgow, Scotland) Paso Robles, California

Could you give a few details about the STEWART surname in ELN please ? Were they in Humbie parish ? Margaret in NZ

The following are the names I am researching: ASHTON = Surrey ATKINSON = Co.Durham, Northumberland COTTERELL = Surrey DOUGLASS = Berwickshire & Northumberland FOGGO / FOGO = Roxburgh, East Lothian, Midlothian, Fifeshire, Perthshire. GOODING = Devon, Monmouthshire, Co.Durham, Cananda. GREEN = Surrey. MIDDLETON = London McKEOWN = Ireland (Longford) NICHOLSON = Co.Durham, Northumberland. PILE 1. = Devon PILE 2. = Co. Durham, Northumberland PEACOCK = Surrey RIDDLE = Co. Durham RIDDLEY = Co. Durham ROBSON = Co.Durham and possibly Yorkshire. SKELLY = Northumberland. SMITH = East Lothian Stewart = East Lothian STRACHAN = Surrey TAYLOR = Surrey TOWNSEND = Surrey pmt

Hi all, My earliest HOGG is James b. abt 1764 ELN d. bet 1841-51 Whittinghame ELN m. 1793 Janet BLAKE b. 1765 Bolton ELN d. 1860 Children: Helen 1795, Janet 1798, Margaret 1801, Barbara 1804, James 1808, and John 1811 (my branch). anyone recognize them? Lynne

Lynne I also would be interested in your HOGG names to see if there are any connections with mine. Cheers Bruce

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Poffenroth Schierman Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XeC.2ACI/1188.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for the reply, Brad. I do have Bill's tree and we have exchanged emails. I don't have my notes with me, but there are one or two mistakes in his tree around some of the siblings in the late 1800's and early 1900's. I seem to recall Mary Schierman being one of them. I'm still working on my stuff and in due course, I'll post my family tree and it should piggyback on Bill's stuff.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XeC.2ACI/1188.1 Message Board Post: Hi Rick, I have Poffenroth/Pfaffenroth and Schierman/Scheuermann ancestors too. I have a ton of people with both surnames in my tree, unfortunately, I can't be of much help. The only information I can provide is from a tree posted by Bill Zehm here on Ancestry.com. Neither of us have any more ancestors for Anna, but Bill shows that the father of the Henry you are referring to was also named Henry. He was born about 1850, probably in Yagodnaya Polyana and he died in Endicott, Washington. He had a wife named Katherine who died at the age of 103 when she was hit by a sled in a snow storm. She also died in Endicott. Henry and Katherine had 12 children. The Henry you refer to died in 1915 in Endicott. I'm trying to guess how you fit into the information he has. Is your mother's name Peterson or South? Even though I have both Anna and Henry in my tree, I can't figure out how I'm related to them, since I can't tie their ancestors to mine, but I know if they came from Yagodnaya Po! lyana, we're related. If you can't find the tree Bill posted let me know and I'll email you a ged file. Brad

Hi Lynne I will be interested to hear of the names of the Hoggs and info you may have. Moira ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne Isenor" <mlisenor@ns.sympatico.ca> To: <SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 6:05 PM Subject: [SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN] HOGGs > I have lots of HOGGs in ELN > > Lynne > > > ==== SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN Mailing List ==== > The Rootsweb/Ancestry.com message boards for East Lothian are gatewayed to this list. When you read a post here you may wish to respond on the boards in the event the author of the post is not subscribed. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

I have lots of HOGGs in ELN Lynne

Hi Sheena My GGG grandfather was a William McAlpine who was born in 1809. He married a Helen Wright in 1857 at the age of 48 at Glencorse in Midlothian and he was a ploughman at that time. He later became a dairyman and had a dairy at Bellwood, Glencorse. He was a widower at the time of their marriage but I do not know if he had any family to his first wife. Helen Wright and William McAlpine became the parents of my gggrandmother Helen McAlpine who was born in 1859. William's parents were Thomas McAlpine and Elizabeth Anderson and I have not yet checked to see if they had other children. Let me know if you find any connection to this. Regards Moira Meek ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Ireland" <ireland@pavilion.co.uk> To: <SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN] Fwd: SCOTT, BURNS, HOGG, BRUCE, MCALPINE > Hi Moira, > > Looking for the family of Mary MCALPINE, daughter of John & Agnes MCALPINE. > She was born c. 1854 & married George CROLL in Glasgow in 1884. Daddy was a > ploughman. > > Would be grateful to hear of any connections. > > Best wishes, > Sheena Ireland > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <EastLothianGen@aol.com> > To: <SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 7:26 PM > Subject: [SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN] Fwd: SCOTT, BURNS, HOGG, BRUCE, MCALPINE > > > > I have just joined and am trying to trace my great great grandfather's > > family. He was a David Scott and seemed to reside in the Yester and > Gladsmuir > > areas. He was born in 1827 and married a Helen Burns in Yester. I am > trying to > > get information on both families so if anyone can help I shall be most > > grateful. > > > > The other names I am trying to find out more about are Hogg, Bruce and > > McAlpine all in the East Lothian area. > > > > I hope someone can help or even trying to trace the same line somewhere. > > > > Thank you > > > > Moira Meek > > mbmeek@btinternet.com > > > > ______________________________ > > > > ==== SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN Mailing List ==== > Search the archives of this list by going to http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Moira, Looking for the family of Mary MCALPINE, daughter of John & Agnes MCALPINE. She was born c. 1854 & married George CROLL in Glasgow in 1884. Daddy was a ploughman. Would be grateful to hear of any connections. Best wishes, Sheena Ireland ----- Original Message ----- From: <EastLothianGen@aol.com> To: <SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 7:26 PM Subject: [SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN] Fwd: SCOTT, BURNS, HOGG, BRUCE, MCALPINE > I have just joined and am trying to trace my great great grandfather's > family. He was a David Scott and seemed to reside in the Yester and Gladsmuir > areas. He was born in 1827 and married a Helen Burns in Yester. I am trying to > get information on both families so if anyone can help I shall be most > grateful. > > The other names I am trying to find out more about are Hogg, Bruce and > McAlpine all in the East Lothian area. > > I hope someone can help or even trying to trace the same line somewhere. > > Thank you > > Moira Meek > mbmeek@btinternet.com > > ______________________________

Moira Noticed your post. I have a Bruce family tree, mostly Berwickshire early on and then East Lothian. If you give me more details I'll see if there is a connection. Sheila i h

I have just joined and am trying to trace my great great grandfather's family. He was a David Scott and seemed to reside in the Yester and Gladsmuir areas. He was born in 1827 and married a Helen Burns in Yester. I am trying to get information on both families so if anyone can help I shall be most grateful. The other names I am trying to find out more about are Hogg, Bruce and McAlpine all in the East Lothian area. I hope someone can help or even trying to trace the same line somewhere. Thank you Moira Meek mbmeek@btinternet.com

I have just joined this list in the hope of finding someone else searching for the names LAW SOMERVILLE My great great grandfather John LAW born Prestonpans about 1807, married Agnes SOMERVILLE at St Cuthberts, Edinburgh 4th June 1835.She was born in 1808 to Robert Somerville and Janet Aitken of Cranston, Midlothian. They left Scotland for New Zealand in 1848 with a family of five children. I am searching for the parents and siblings of John Law. Does anyone have these names on their tree? Thank-you. Jenny in New Zealand

Hi All, I could swear I saw a message from someone the other day re the above twins, from E.Lothians. For the life of me, I cannot find the message, so would greatly appreciate it if someone else has seen it, or has it, or even SENT it. Its my own family line, and I am very keen to get in touch with the sender. I was away for a few days and it arrived with 484 other messages, and must have been accidently deleted, surely. kind regards, Yvonne Morrow

-----Original Message----- From: maryegger [mailto:campsie@tcsn.net] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 3:37 PM To: 'NORTHUMBRIA-L@rootsweb.com' Subject: FW: MARGARET WYLIE I have tried a few times to send this and each time it "bounces." Apologies if it has gone through before. Maisie -----Original Message----- From: maryegger [mailto:campsie@tcsn.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 3:54 PM To: NORTHUMBRIA-L-request@rootsweb.com Subject: MARGARET WYLIE As a new subscriber to the Northumbria and East Lothian lists, let me wish you a good afternoon from a rather dreich day on the Central Coast area of California. It's supposed to be our rainy season, but there's a reluctance from the heavens to send us some needed downpours. The assumptions one makes when digging into one's family background, such that, one born and bred in Glasgow has to be 100% Scottish, therefore! Sure! Especially with the large influx of Irish to Glasgow in the 1800s. Aunt on mother's side: "Oh, no you're not! You have one great-grandmother and one great-great grandmother from Northern Ireland. Volunteer Researcher in Glasgow: You can add some English into the mix as an English 4 or 5 x grt-grandmother, Margaret Wylie, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland (1776) married Robert Hillcoat* of Prestonpans, East Lothian, Scotland. (1752). They, in turn, begat James Hillcoat (wife Helen Young) who begat Jane (Jeanie) Hillcoat, Renfrew, Scotland...and so on down the line until you come to you (me, i.e.) (*Robert's parents were Anthony Hillcoat, Prestonpans and wife Helen Watson (abt. 1751), also of Prestonpans.) I have no information at all on Margaret Wylie (that spelling perhaps), whether she moved to Scotland from Northumberland as a child, or went there after marriage to Robert Hillcoat. Quite a few of the Hillcoats (the Scottish ones, i.e.) came from the Paisley/Greenock areas of Renfrewshire, and worked as hand linen weavers or potters. Should I count myself lucky that I have this much information, or does anyone have anything else to add to the mix, or suggestions, with which to help me? On bended knees for any other information! Maisie Egger Paso Robles, California (formerly of Glasgow, Scotland)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Western, McGregor Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.netscape.com/mbexec/msg/4317/XeC.2ACI/1194 Message Board Post: I am currently looking for any info. on the families of John Western and Elizabeth McGregor. They were married 20 Nov 1810 in Tranent. They had nine children, the first six of them were born in Dirleton. The remaining three were born in St. Cuthberts, Edinburgh. Elisabeth -15 Jun 1811 Mary - 10 May 1813 Margaret - 15 Apr 1815 Janet - 6 Aug 1817 John - 15 Oct 1819 Peter - 16 May 1822 Ann - 5 May 1825 Jane - 27 Jun 1827 Isabel - 18 Oct 1830 Any info. on the Western - McGregor families would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

Hi Cath, I have a GRANT puzzle: My 4xgt grandmother was Margaret GRANT born in 1745 in Ormiston, ELN, apparently to William GRANT & Margaret SNADEN. There seems to be no record of their marriage & no other children but there is a marriage in Fife of a James GRANT & Margaret SNADEN and they had 3 children, one in Inveresk in 1743, the other two in Ormiston in 1750 & 1756 respectively. Given that GRANT & SNADEN are not exactly common names thereabouts, do you think the christening record for my Margaret is incorrect? I suspect 1745 in East Lothian could have been quite an interesting time! Margaret GRANT married William KINGHORN also of Ormiston & they ended up in Inverleith in the mid-1770s. None of their children was called William but they did have a James. Any ideas/suggestions welcome! I have a little 1841 census info but didn't find any Macaulays. Bestw wishes, Sheena Ireland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cath Stolton" <Catherine.Stolton@Unilever.com> To: <SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 10:35 AM Subject: [EDB] Census request/Surname interests > Is anyone able to help me with 1841, 1851 or 1861 census information? > > I am looking for some MACAULAY's (hopefully Anne, Christian and Grissel/Grace > but maybe others too) in 1841, 1851 and 1861. > Christian and Grissel died in Loanhead but at some point all three owned a > property in Buccleugh/Buccleuch Street (hard to read the handwriting in the > will). Is anyone able to look them up for me? > > And its time I posted my surname interests for Edinburgh again - the > information I have is mainly for 1750ish - 1890ish, I am interested in the > siblings as well as those in my direct line so I may be able to help: > > MACAULAY > JOHNSTON(E) (Mary Johnston married James Macaulay 1780) > TODD (Christian Todd, daughter of Patrick, married Alexander Johnston 1754) > GRANT (Mary Grant, daughter of William, married Daniel Cameron 1809, William > Grant appeared in Edinburgh with wife Mary Scott in 1769) > CAMERON - 1800's > > Cheers > Cath >