HI Karen, Where are your TAITS from ? regards, Gary in Vancouver -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: March 30, 2002 5:37 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN] Re: Family History Karen, Contact me directly at [email protected] I have all the 1881 census information for you in a file for Alexander Weddell's in Lowlands. Regards, Lynn M. Polgar Researching Surnames: RYRIE, SWANSON, DUNNET, ROSIE, CORNER, HENDERSON, BRUCE, TAIT, CHISHOLM, BROWN, CLARK ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 8:21 PM Subject: [SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN] Re: Family History > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XeC.2ACI/792.921 > > Message Board Post: > > Hi Jo > My husbands grandfather was Alexander Weddell. We believe he came from the Trannent area. He lived most of his life in Ayton, Berwickshire as Blacksmith. He married Isabella Walker. They had 3 sons, Henry, Tom & John & 1 daughter Isabel (my husbands mother). > > I have Alexanders papers somewhere. I will dig them out. > > Rgds > Karen Vallance > > > ==== SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN Mailing List ==== > Share your record transcripts by entering them Scotland BDM Exchange today. Go to http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctbdm/index.htm and see what is already there. Let's build up the database! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ==== SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN Mailing List ==== Here is a partial list of the parishes of Haddingtonshire: Oldhamstocks, Ormiston, Pencaitland, Prestonkirk, Prestonpans, Saltoun, Spott, Stenton, Tranent, Tynninghame, Whitekirk, Whittinghame, Yester ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Karen, Contact me directly at [email protected] I have all the 1881 census information for you in a file for Alexander Weddell's in Lowlands. Regards, Lynn M. Polgar Researching Surnames: RYRIE, SWANSON, DUNNET, ROSIE, CORNER, HENDERSON, BRUCE, TAIT, CHISHOLM, BROWN, CLARK ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 8:21 PM Subject: [SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN] Re: Family History > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XeC.2ACI/792.921 > > Message Board Post: > > Hi Jo > My husbands grandfather was Alexander Weddell. We believe he came from the Trannent area. He lived most of his life in Ayton, Berwickshire as Blacksmith. He married Isabella Walker. They had 3 sons, Henry, Tom & John & 1 daughter Isabel (my husbands mother). > > I have Alexanders papers somewhere. I will dig them out. > > Rgds > Karen Vallance > > > ==== SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN Mailing List ==== > Share your record transcripts by entering them Scotland BDM Exchange today. Go to http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctbdm/index.htm and see what is already there. Let's build up the database! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XeC.2ACI/364.1 Message Board Post: I too am researching the Todd family. I am looking for Helen Todd, d/o James Todd and Janet Wilson. Anything sound familiar? The place you are referring to is - Forfar, Angus, Scotland. Maybe that will help. This family also has a connection to the Dunbar family of that area, not proven as yet. Sharon

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XeC.2ACI/792.921 Message Board Post: Hi Jo My husbands grandfather was Alexander Weddell. We believe he came from the Trannent area. He lived most of his life in Ayton, Berwickshire as Blacksmith. He married Isabella Walker. They had 3 sons, Henry, Tom & John & 1 daughter Isabel (my husbands mother). I have Alexanders papers somewhere. I will dig them out. Rgds Karen Vallance

Does anyone know if the graveyards in North Berwick have been surveyed, particularly the Old Kirk Port cemetery Kay

Hi Marilyn, funnily enough I started to draught a message about my KEDZLIE interests earlier today Alex MOFFAT m Alice Kedzlie WILSON Tranent 1902 We have learned that Alice was born in Tranent 1863, her parents were Andrew WILSON and Alison KEDZLIE/KEDSLIE Alison (known as Alice) is, we believe, the daughter of Henry Turnbull KEDZLIE and Eliza Sinclair GRAY Their children are as follows 1821 Jane Gray 1823 William 1825 Alison Turnbull 1827 Thomas Gray 1829 Margeret 1831 John Alison and Andrew WILSON named their children Andrew, Henry Kedzlie, Eliza Gray, Alice and Annie which ties in with the scottish naming patterns and also use the Surnames of Kedzlie and Gray as middle names, makes us reasonabley certain that this is correct. My visit to Scots Origin also provides only one Alison or Henry KEDZLIE, in fact there were 11 KEDZLIE's born in Tranent in the period 1800 - 1900 the rest were from Prestonpans as listed below. Henry died 1866 at Tranent aged 69 Perhaps these may help you. These are all the ones from Prestonpans and the period covered was 1800 - 1900 Unfortunately I didn't go back any further, ran out of credits...... 1833 James David/Margeret BRYCE Prestonpans 1859 JOhn ? " 1828 Margeret William/Margeret HALDANE " 1836 Margeret David/Margeret BRYCE " 1856 Mary ? " 1836 Thomas David/Margeret BRYCE " 1834 William Limom Willam/Susan SHERRIFF " Anyway this is all a very long winded way of giving you the information that I have, must be all the chocolate we've been eating !!!! Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: Revell <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN] Yester Parish Trades and Tails > Hi Carol > I'm not sure if I've contacted you before about your Kedzlie connections, > but I would be interested to know if they are related to mine. > Margaret Kedzlie (born 1747) married William Hume presumably in Prestonpans > as all my other ancestors are from there. Margaret's parents were William > Kedzlie and Elizabeth Hog. > Regards > Marilyn in Masterton, New Zealand > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "carol" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 6:39 PM > Subject: Re: [SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN] Yester Parish Trades and Tails > > > > Thankyou very much for this, it is exactly the type of information we all > > love to see, puts the lives of our ancestors in context. > > Carol > > Researching MOFFAT, BARRIE, LOGAN, WILSON, KEDZLIE > > Prestonkirk, Ormiston, Tranent > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 11:11 AM > > Subject: [SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN] Yester Parish Trades and Tails > > > > > > > Good evening listers > > > John Martine's analytical record of the rural "past" of Haddingtonshire > > > includes family names we see from time to time on the list. He puts them > > in > > > contect and throws in a few anecdotes that brings the humanity out of > all > > the > > > lists of dates, places and statistics. > > > This postings extracted from my copy of "Reminiscences and Notices of > the > > > Parishes of the County of Haddington " > > > by JOHN MARTINE published 1890 using information from the 1755, 1793 and > > 1841 > > > Statistical Accounts of Haddingtonshire. To help while away the wee > hours > > . > > > > > > <There are in and around Gifford many pleasant houses and residences, > such > > as > > > Gifford Vale, long the residence of William Begbie, Esq., Mr Hutton, Mr > > John > > > Hay, and Mrs Hay, who lived to a long age, now of Mr Alexander Hay, > > merchant, > > > Leith; Holyn Bank, where Miss Hay, late of Duncan Law, long lived, now > the > > > residence of Peter B. Swinton, Esq., the factor on the estate; and > Gifford > > > Bank. The Free church and manse are pleasantly situated on the road > > leading > > > south to Danskine, &c. There are a row of excellent houses, including Mr > > > Ogilvie's opposite the village green. Gifford is a post and telegraph > > town, a > > > sub-office to Haddington. There are three trysts or fairs held annually > in > > > March, June, and October. They were important and large fairs some years > > ago > > > for the sale of sheep, cattle, and horses, and frequented always by > > showmen, > > > gingerbread vendors, merry-go-rounds, coopers to sell bickers, cogs, and > > > tubs; shoemakers to sell shoes; tinkers and gipsies to sell baskets and > > > horn-spoons. Cooper Neillans of Garvald used to tell that he attended > > Gifford > > > fair for over fifty years. The school boys at the Haddington schools > used > > to > > > get the play to go up and see Gifford fair. Lots of horse dealers from > all > > > parts attended. An old Haddington deacon used to remark that they were > the > > > "waill of men.' Of late years Gifford fairs have fallen off very much, > and > > > have almost died a natural death, owing chiefly to the weekly auction > > sales > > > for cattle and sheep in Edinburgh, Dalkeith, and Haddington. > > > They are now the relics of former days. There were for many years six > > public > > > houses in Gifford for the sale of foreign and British spirits, porter, > and > > > ale. Now there is but one - the Tweeddale Arms. A louping-on-stane, a > > > distinguishing erection yet in many a Scotch village, stands opposite > the > > inn > > > door, and above it the old fashioned swinging signboard, with the > > Tweeddale > > > arms painted on it. An old occupant and owner of the Tweeddale Arms was > > David > > > Swinton, who carried on a small brewery for many years, a necessary > > appendage > > > in old times to a village hostelry. His successors also carried it on > for > > > some time. Mrs Ayton for many years also carried on another of the > > principal > > > houses. A roaring trade was done on fair days in spirits and ales.&c. > > > A good story is told of two Lammermuir herds who always attended Gifford > > > fairs. They made a point of drinking a gill of whiskey in every public > > house. > > > On one occasion when on the road going home they recollected that they > had > > > forgot one house, and they came back to drink it. > > > When the late Earl of Gifford was born in 1822, the first male heir at > > that > > > time to the Yester estates, great rejoicings and jollifications took > place > > in > > > Gifford. An ox was roasted in the green and the meat with a certain > > quantum > > > of ale was distributed among the villagers. The marriage of Lord Ramsay, > > > afterwards Marquis of Dalhousie, Governor-general of India, with Lady > > Susan > > > Hay, in 1836, was a grand event on the Yester estate. After the marriage > > and > > > before he carried off his bride, Lord Ramsay came out to the lawn > > accompanied > > > by the Marquis, the Earl of Dalhousie his father and a large assemblage > of > > > relatives, and addressed the large crowd of tenants, villagers, and > > > Haddington people. He made an elegant and grateful speech, and said > > > he was just about to carry off the "Lily of the valley." A large company > > was > > > entertained to dinner in the riding school. It is sad to think that the > > > largely gifted life of the Marquis of Dalhousie was not longer spared. > > During > > > his eight years' government of India, from 1847 to 1855, he accomplished > > and > > > carried through many important events which have tended much to the > > > consolidation and strength of British sway in India. > > > A bleachfield on the banks of the Gifford water was long carried on by > Mr > > > Wood. afterwards > > > by Mr John Traill, where a considerable trade was done, but it was given > > up > > > many years ago. A woollen or "wauk' mill was also carried on by Mr Weir. > > and > > > afterwards by Mr Roger Robson, who removed to Haddington. A meal mill > > still > > > exists on the Gifford water. At one time there were a great number of > > weavers > > > in Gifford.Not one now exists. > > > Among them were Blacks, Barries, Browns, &c. Many old names will still > be > > > recollected in Gifford - Miss Hay. Mrs Carfrae, Mrs General Forbes at > > Holyn > > > Bank. Mr Gilbertson, factor at Gifford Bank; Mr James Porteous, saddler > > (the > > > Pin of the Tabernacle); William Craise, wood merchant; William Wight, > > baker; > > > James Sligh. grocer; Miss M'Connel. baker; Richard Ewen. merchant; Mrs > > Ayton. > > > innkeeper; Peter and James Cockbum. shoemakers; William Tait, wood > > merchant; > > > Miss Coalston, post mistress. James Lidgate; carrier; James Bald, > butcher; > > > Alexander Instant, wright. The old schoolmasters were Mr Paterson, Mr > > Peter > > > M'Kay. and Archibald Hunter in Long Yester, much respected in their day. > > Mr > > > William D. M'Kay, the celebrated Scotch artist, is a son of Mr Peter > > M'Kay. > > > and a native of Gifford.> > > > Hope you found that entertaining if not informative. > > > Regards > > > George Wallace > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN Mailing List ==== > > > Here is a partial list of the parishes of Haddingtonshire: Aberlady, > > Athelstaneford, Bara, Bolton, Dirleton, Dunbar, Garvald, Gifford, > Gladsmuir, > > Haddington, Humbie, Innerwick, Morham, North Berwick > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN Mailing List ==== > > Look for Haddingtonshire villages and parishes in the Statistical Accoun ts > of Scotland online: http://edina.ac.uk/cgi/StatAcc/StatAcc.cgi > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN Mailing List ==== > This week in East Lothian: you can read the East Lothian Courier online at http://www.eastlothiancourier.com/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Carol I'm not sure if I've contacted you before about your Kedzlie connections, but I would be interested to know if they are related to mine. Margaret Kedzlie (born 1747) married William Hume presumably in Prestonpans as all my other ancestors are from there. Margaret's parents were William Kedzlie and Elizabeth Hog. Regards Marilyn in Masterton, New Zealand ----- Original Message ----- From: "carol" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN] Yester Parish Trades and Tails > Thankyou very much for this, it is exactly the type of information we all > love to see, puts the lives of our ancestors in context. > Carol > Researching MOFFAT, BARRIE, LOGAN, WILSON, KEDZLIE > Prestonkirk, Ormiston, Tranent > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 11:11 AM > Subject: [SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN] Yester Parish Trades and Tails > > > > Good evening listers > > John Martine's analytical record of the rural "past" of Haddingtonshire > > includes family names we see from time to time on the list. He puts them > in > > contect and throws in a few anecdotes that brings the humanity out of all > the > > lists of dates, places and statistics. > > This postings extracted from my copy of "Reminiscences and Notices of the > > Parishes of the County of Haddington " > > by JOHN MARTINE published 1890 using information from the 1755, 1793 and > 1841 > > Statistical Accounts of Haddingtonshire. To help while away the wee hours > . > > > > <There are in and around Gifford many pleasant houses and residences, such > as > > Gifford Vale, long the residence of William Begbie, Esq., Mr Hutton, Mr > John > > Hay, and Mrs Hay, who lived to a long age, now of Mr Alexander Hay, > merchant, > > Leith; Holyn Bank, where Miss Hay, late of Duncan Law, long lived, now the > > residence of Peter B. Swinton, Esq., the factor on the estate; and Gifford > > Bank. The Free church and manse are pleasantly situated on the road > leading > > south to Danskine, &c. There are a row of excellent houses, including Mr > > Ogilvie's opposite the village green. Gifford is a post and telegraph > town, a > > sub-office to Haddington. There are three trysts or fairs held annually in > > March, June, and October. They were important and large fairs some years > ago > > for the sale of sheep, cattle, and horses, and frequented always by > showmen, > > gingerbread vendors, merry-go-rounds, coopers to sell bickers, cogs, and > > tubs; shoemakers to sell shoes; tinkers and gipsies to sell baskets and > > horn-spoons. Cooper Neillans of Garvald used to tell that he attended > Gifford > > fair for over fifty years. The school boys at the Haddington schools used > to > > get the play to go up and see Gifford fair. Lots of horse dealers from all > > parts attended. An old Haddington deacon used to remark that they were the > > "waill of men.' Of late years Gifford fairs have fallen off very much, and > > have almost died a natural death, owing chiefly to the weekly auction > sales > > for cattle and sheep in Edinburgh, Dalkeith, and Haddington. > > They are now the relics of former days. There were for many years six > public > > houses in Gifford for the sale of foreign and British spirits, porter, and > > ale. Now there is but one - the Tweeddale Arms. A louping-on-stane, a > > distinguishing erection yet in many a Scotch village, stands opposite the > inn > > door, and above it the old fashioned swinging signboard, with the > Tweeddale > > arms painted on it. An old occupant and owner of the Tweeddale Arms was > David > > Swinton, who carried on a small brewery for many years, a necessary > appendage > > in old times to a village hostelry. His successors also carried it on for > > some time. Mrs Ayton for many years also carried on another of the > principal > > houses. A roaring trade was done on fair days in spirits and ales.&c. > > A good story is told of two Lammermuir herds who always attended Gifford > > fairs. They made a point of drinking a gill of whiskey in every public > house. > > On one occasion when on the road going home they recollected that they had > > forgot one house, and they came back to drink it. > > When the late Earl of Gifford was born in 1822, the first male heir at > that > > time to the Yester estates, great rejoicings and jollifications took place > in > > Gifford. An ox was roasted in the green and the meat with a certain > quantum > > of ale was distributed among the villagers. The marriage of Lord Ramsay, > > afterwards Marquis of Dalhousie, Governor-general of India, with Lady > Susan > > Hay, in 1836, was a grand event on the Yester estate. After the marriage > and > > before he carried off his bride, Lord Ramsay came out to the lawn > accompanied > > by the Marquis, the Earl of Dalhousie his father and a large assemblage of > > relatives, and addressed the large crowd of tenants, villagers, and > > Haddington people. He made an elegant and grateful speech, and said > > he was just about to carry off the "Lily of the valley." A large company > was > > entertained to dinner in the riding school. It is sad to think that the > > largely gifted life of the Marquis of Dalhousie was not longer spared. > During > > his eight years' government of India, from 1847 to 1855, he accomplished > and > > carried through many important events which have tended much to the > > consolidation and strength of British sway in India. > > A bleachfield on the banks of the Gifford water was long carried on by Mr > > Wood. afterwards > > by Mr John Traill, where a considerable trade was done, but it was given > up > > many years ago. A woollen or "wauk' mill was also carried on by Mr Weir. > and > > afterwards by Mr Roger Robson, who removed to Haddington. A meal mill > still > > exists on the Gifford water. At one time there were a great number of > weavers > > in Gifford.Not one now exists. > > Among them were Blacks, Barries, Browns, &c. Many old names will still be > > recollected in Gifford - Miss Hay. Mrs Carfrae, Mrs General Forbes at > Holyn > > Bank. Mr Gilbertson, factor at Gifford Bank; Mr James Porteous, saddler > (the > > Pin of the Tabernacle); William Craise, wood merchant; William Wight, > baker; > > James Sligh. grocer; Miss M'Connel. baker; Richard Ewen. merchant; Mrs > Ayton. > > innkeeper; Peter and James Cockbum. shoemakers; William Tait, wood > merchant; > > Miss Coalston, post mistress. James Lidgate; carrier; James Bald, butcher; > > Alexander Instant, wright. The old schoolmasters were Mr Paterson, Mr > Peter > > M'Kay. and Archibald Hunter in Long Yester, much respected in their day. > Mr > > William D. M'Kay, the celebrated Scotch artist, is a son of Mr Peter > M'Kay. > > and a native of Gifford.> > > Hope you found that entertaining if not informative. > > Regards > > George Wallace > > > > > > ==== SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN Mailing List ==== > > Here is a partial list of the parishes of Haddingtonshire: Aberlady, > Athelstaneford, Bara, Bolton, Dirleton, Dunbar, Garvald, Gifford, Gladsmuir, > Haddington, Humbie, Innerwick, Morham, North Berwick > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN Mailing List ==== > Look for Haddingtonshire villages and parishes in the Statistical Accounts of Scotland online: http://edina.ac.uk/cgi/StatAcc/StatAcc.cgi > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I noticed reference to this paper in the articles from Mr Martine, does anyone know if these are available to research anywhere, ie local library or similar ???? Carol in NZ

Linda I think you have to unsubscribe ([email protected]) and then resubscribe (same address) with your new address. Sara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 4:27 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN] Re:Change of e mail > Hi there > Was not sure how to do this I have a new e mail addy and need to let you > know so that you will send to it instead of my old one which was > [email protected] My new one is [email protected] I hope that I > have done this right . > Thanks > Linda > > > > ==== SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN Mailing List ==== > Share your record transcripts by entering them Scotland BDM Exchange today. Go to http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctbdm/index.htm and see what is already there. Let's build up the database! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

George, thanks for posting those portions of that book. I bought a copy of it while I was at the library in Haddington. I believe the Lothian Family History Society has it for sale as well. Isn't it an interesting and informative volume? Jill Clark listowner, SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN researching COWE, BORTHWICK, LAMOND, HARKES, RATTRAY, NISBET, JENKINSON, SANDERSON, BURNS, GRIEVE, GIBSON, BROWN

Seeking connections with my wife's ancestors :- MARGARET POW m.Gladsmuir 1798, Archibald Hamilton. Donald A. Robertson, Kyleakin, Isle of Skye

Help from a fresh pair of eyes please, I posted these extracts in May 2000 on the Midlothian site (as was) in the hope that the THOMAS RENTON and WILLIAM RENTON may connect with someone with more RENTON information that may have helped prove my WALLACE tree back a further generation. THOMAS and WILLIAM RENTON were Cautioners to the Marriage of my WILLIAM WALLACE and JANET RENTON in SALTOUN 05/04/1777 (sorry my last impromptu posting stated that William and Janet married in Bolton. Error) The original posting ex OPR :- Salton 13th Dec. 1775 THOMAS RENTON in East Salton & BEATRICE BATHGATE in the parish of Gifford gave up their names for proclamation in order of marriage. Cautioners for the Bridegroom WILLIAM RENTON the Bride JOHN BATHGATE Salton 14th May 1780 WILLIAM RENTON in ye parish of Haddington & HELEN HENDERSON in ye parish of Salton gave up their names for proclamation in order to marriage. Cautioners for the Bridegroom ROBERT AINSLIE the Bride JOHN MERRIL??? (Merrilies?) My WILLIAM and JANET may have used the "old" naming pattern for issue :- HELEN c 16/03/1778 Bolton WILLIAM c 09/04/1780 Bolton THOMAS c 13/03/1782 Bolton WILLIAM c 18/07/1784 Gladsmuir JANET c 27/08/1786 Haddington witness GEORGE & JOHN WALLACE MARGARET c15/03/1789 Haddington MARTHA MATILDA c 23/11/1791 Dirleton I had my WILLIAM WALLACE as the son of DAVID WALLACE and ALLISON REIDPATH ( christened in Yester 07/03/1756 ) which tied in with dates, place, witness George and John but not with the "good old naming pattern". Question Does anyone out there own up to having a JANET RENTON that fits my Janets' profile? Best regards George Wallace

Thankyou very much for this, it is exactly the type of information we all love to see, puts the lives of our ancestors in context. Carol Researching MOFFAT, BARRIE, LOGAN, WILSON, KEDZLIE Prestonkirk, Ormiston, Tranent ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 11:11 AM Subject: [SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN] Yester Parish Trades and Tails > Good evening listers > John Martine's analytical record of the rural "past" of Haddingtonshire > includes family names we see from time to time on the list. He puts them in > contect and throws in a few anecdotes that brings the humanity out of all the > lists of dates, places and statistics. > This postings extracted from my copy of "Reminiscences and Notices of the > Parishes of the County of Haddington " > by JOHN MARTINE published 1890 using information from the 1755, 1793 and 1841 > Statistical Accounts of Haddingtonshire. To help while away the wee hours . > > <There are in and around Gifford many pleasant houses and residences, such as > Gifford Vale, long the residence of William Begbie, Esq., Mr Hutton, Mr John > Hay, and Mrs Hay, who lived to a long age, now of Mr Alexander Hay, merchant, > Leith; Holyn Bank, where Miss Hay, late of Duncan Law, long lived, now the > residence of Peter B. Swinton, Esq., the factor on the estate; and Gifford > Bank. The Free church and manse are pleasantly situated on the road leading > south to Danskine, &c. There are a row of excellent houses, including Mr > Ogilvie's opposite the village green. Gifford is a post and telegraph town, a > sub-office to Haddington. There are three trysts or fairs held annually in > March, June, and October. They were important and large fairs some years ago > for the sale of sheep, cattle, and horses, and frequented always by showmen, > gingerbread vendors, merry-go-rounds, coopers to sell bickers, cogs, and > tubs; shoemakers to sell shoes; tinkers and gipsies to sell baskets and > horn-spoons. Cooper Neillans of Garvald used to tell that he attended Gifford > fair for over fifty years. The school boys at the Haddington schools used to > get the play to go up and see Gifford fair. Lots of horse dealers from all > parts attended. An old Haddington deacon used to remark that they were the > "waill of men.' Of late years Gifford fairs have fallen off very much, and > have almost died a natural death, owing chiefly to the weekly auction sales > for cattle and sheep in Edinburgh, Dalkeith, and Haddington. > They are now the relics of former days. There were for many years six public > houses in Gifford for the sale of foreign and British spirits, porter, and > ale. Now there is but one - the Tweeddale Arms. A louping-on-stane, a > distinguishing erection yet in many a Scotch village, stands opposite the inn > door, and above it the old fashioned swinging signboard, with the Tweeddale > arms painted on it. An old occupant and owner of the Tweeddale Arms was David > Swinton, who carried on a small brewery for many years, a necessary appendage > in old times to a village hostelry. His successors also carried it on for > some time. Mrs Ayton for many years also carried on another of the principal > houses. A roaring trade was done on fair days in spirits and ales.&c. > A good story is told of two Lammermuir herds who always attended Gifford > fairs. They made a point of drinking a gill of whiskey in every public house. > On one occasion when on the road going home they recollected that they had > forgot one house, and they came back to drink it. > When the late Earl of Gifford was born in 1822, the first male heir at that > time to the Yester estates, great rejoicings and jollifications took place in > Gifford. An ox was roasted in the green and the meat with a certain quantum > of ale was distributed among the villagers. The marriage of Lord Ramsay, > afterwards Marquis of Dalhousie, Governor-general of India, with Lady Susan > Hay, in 1836, was a grand event on the Yester estate. After the marriage and > before he carried off his bride, Lord Ramsay came out to the lawn accompanied > by the Marquis, the Earl of Dalhousie his father and a large assemblage of > relatives, and addressed the large crowd of tenants, villagers, and > Haddington people. He made an elegant and grateful speech, and said > he was just about to carry off the "Lily of the valley." A large company was > entertained to dinner in the riding school. It is sad to think that the > largely gifted life of the Marquis of Dalhousie was not longer spared. During > his eight years' government of India, from 1847 to 1855, he accomplished and > carried through many important events which have tended much to the > consolidation and strength of British sway in India. > A bleachfield on the banks of the Gifford water was long carried on by Mr > Wood. afterwards > by Mr John Traill, where a considerable trade was done, but it was given up > many years ago. A woollen or "wauk' mill was also carried on by Mr Weir. and > afterwards by Mr Roger Robson, who removed to Haddington. A meal mill still > exists on the Gifford water. At one time there were a great number of weavers > in Gifford.Not one now exists. > Among them were Blacks, Barries, Browns, &c. Many old names will still be > recollected in Gifford - Miss Hay. Mrs Carfrae, Mrs General Forbes at Holyn > Bank. Mr Gilbertson, factor at Gifford Bank; Mr James Porteous, saddler (the > Pin of the Tabernacle); William Craise, wood merchant; William Wight, baker; > James Sligh. grocer; Miss M'Connel. baker; Richard Ewen. merchant; Mrs Ayton. > innkeeper; Peter and James Cockbum. shoemakers; William Tait, wood merchant; > Miss Coalston, post mistress. James Lidgate; carrier; James Bald, butcher; > Alexander Instant, wright. The old schoolmasters were Mr Paterson, Mr Peter > M'Kay. and Archibald Hunter in Long Yester, much respected in their day. Mr > William D. M'Kay, the celebrated Scotch artist, is a son of Mr Peter M'Kay. > and a native of Gifford.> > Hope you found that entertaining if not informative. > Regards > George Wallace > > > ==== SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN Mailing List ==== > Here is a partial list of the parishes of Haddingtonshire: Aberlady, Athelstaneford, Bara, Bolton, Dirleton, Dunbar, Garvald, Gifford, Gladsmuir, Haddington, Humbie, Innerwick, Morham, North Berwick > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

More from the pen of John Martine Chapter on The Parish of Whitekirk written circa 1883 <Mr ANDREW HOWDEN, third son of Mr HOWDEN of Lawhead, died at Lawhead, 6th November 1879, aged 57, and was buried at Prestonkirk. The following appropriate notice of his death appeared in the Courier, 14th November. 'Death has removed from our midst another connecting link between the present and the past generation of East Lothian farmers. Mr Andrew Howden, who died at Lawhead on Thursday, was come of a race of agriculturists, who have for generations been connected with the county, and whose name is still a household word amongst us. Mr Howden was physically a fine type of man, tall and stalwart, and with a commanding presence, which never failed to inspire respect. It is not too much to say that there is scarcely a farmer in the county whose loss will be more widely felt, especially at the present crisis of agricultural affairs. It is well known how frequently he was consulted, and how highly his opinion was valued both by the agents of landlords, and proprietors themselves, and there was perhaps no one man upon whom his brother farmers leaned so much for advice as Andrew Howden, the familiar name with which his memory will be associated. Possessed of a clear head, and strong intellectual grasp, he had less difficulty than most men in giving a decided opinion, and his judgments though not hastily formed, were all but invariably sound. In many other respects Mr Howden might be regarded as among the most remarkable men of his class, and above all as a typical Scotchman. His wit was keen and incisive, while his humour was simply irresistible. It beamed in the features of his dark expressive face, and was heard in the tones of his deep and powerful voice. His love of poetry was great, and the extraordinary facility with which he was in the habit of quoting Shakespeare, his favourite author, was well known. But the sterling and upright qualities of his character were those which will longest survive in the memory of that large circle of his acquaintenance, who on Monday last gathered round his grave, and who have now to lament the loss of a wise counsellor, a true friend, and an honest man." Mr HOWDEN's family are still tenants of Lawhead farm, being the fourth generation there, if not more; and Mr ALEXANDER HOWDEN is the last surviving son of old Andrew Howden of Tyninghame, Lawhead. Stonelaws farm was long tenanted by Mr WILLIAM MITCHELL, a member of an old East Lothian family. He was succeeded by Mr WILLIAM HOWDEN, and after him by GEORGE NELSON, Esq., who in 1890 finished a nineteen years lease, and retired from farming. Mr NELSON was a very extensive and enterprising farmer, having at one time four farms in his hands, viz. - Castleton, Blackdykes, Stonelaws, and Newtonlees, extending to 1100 to 1200 acres, and paid over £3000 of yearly rent. He was bred a banker in the office of the British Linen Company at Montrose. It is singular to note, that Mr NELSON's father, late farmer at Wester Broomhouse, his uncle, and others of his family were born at Stonelaws in the end of the last century.> Happy Easter to you all. George Wallace Scribbled without the aid of a spell-checker :-)

Woops! Don't know what went wrong, the mail just did not look as if it had left my desk so I did it again!! Bonus?? Hi Eileen Yes I have been "buried" in my tree. An odd couple DAVID WALLACE and ALLISON REIDPATH married 1758 Yester are giving me a hard time so to speak. I have them grafted on the main trunk as parents of my GGG grandfather WILLIAM WALLACE who married JANET RENTON in Bolton 1777......... but since using Hugh Wallis,s delightful search method up pops another DAVID WALLACE . Sorry I,m rattling on as if in a chat room or worse in the Wigtonshire List (:-( I feel another Origins Weekend coming on and I have another posting stuck in my mailbox. Goodnight All George Wallace

More wee hours waffle ( and yes the spell checker IS off ) This postings extracted from my copy of "Reminiscences and Notices of the Parishes of the County of Haddington " by JOHN MARTINE published 1890 using information from the 1755, 1793 and 1841 Statistical Accounts of Haddingtonshire. John Martine in a more pensive mood in this one. <The late ROBERT BAIRD, Esq. of Newbyth, was long well-known as an active East Lothian magistrate and county gentleman. He was member for the Haddington district of Burghs in 1801 and 1802. He kept a good stud of hunters, and was owner of several, famous race horses: one called "Cleveland" ran second for the St Leger at Doncaster in 1826; the "Pirate" was well-known at Musselburgh, Kelso, Perth. &c. The fine property of Seacliffe, including the farms of Auldhame and Scoughall, formerly belonged to the COLTS of Cartsherrie. They sold it to JOHN BRODIE, Esq., the tenant of Scoughall, burdened with the life-rent of Mrs COLT, who lived to a great age. The purchase turned out a bargain for Mr BRODIE. GEORGE SLIGO, Esq., Merchant in Leith, bought it from Mr BRODIE, his daughter Lady HARRIS sold it for a large sum to the late Mr LAIDLAY in whose family it remains. Seacliffe House and grounds have the command.of some of the finest sea views that are anywhere to be met with. The land is of the best quality, much of it stretches along the coast to Peffer side, and is light, sandy and benty. The names of a number of old farmers in Whitekirk parish will still be recollected by old residenters. Mr ALEXANDER DUDGEON, of Newmains and Lochhouses, was an excellent farmer. He was the first in the county to use bone dust for raising turnips. He was much ridiculed at first for his attempt. The country folk could not understand how "Dry Banes' could raise a crop of turnips. His success in doing so, and growing heavy crops, soon dissipated their fears. Mr DUDGEON left Lochhouses somewhere about 1824, having become tenant of the farms of Falkland Wood and Durno, on the Falkland estate in Fifeshire. He was succeeded by Mr WALTER HOOD, and after his death by his brother GEORGE, also now dead. The HOODS were old East Lothian folk, and were much esteemed; also Mr JOHN HOOD, tenant of Newmains, formerly farmer at Long Yester. Mr HUGH L. MITCHELL, the late tenant of Lochhouses, died in 1890, much regretted by a numerous circle of friends. The name of Mr ANDREW HOWDEN, senior, of Tyninghame, Lawhead, will not soon be forgotten in the county. He was a gentleman of superior mark, and one of the most distinguished agriculturists of his day. Conversant with all the details of farming, he was much sought after as a valuator of land and an arbiter in agricultural matters and disputes. He was several times examined as a witness before the House of Commons, along with other East Lothian farmers, in the long continued and vexed question of the Corn Laws. He was the author of several very accurate reports on agricultural subjects, and gained premiums for them, which were offered by the Highland Society. The last communication made (as stated in the Statistical Account of the Parish written by Dr WALLACE in 1841) by Mr HOWDEN, related to the growth and qualities of upwards of a hundred varieties of the potato. The report contains several interesting facts, amongst others, that it is safe and profitable to plant the tubers whole, rather than to cut them, as is commonly done. Mr HOWDEN was a contemporary of the late GEORGE RENNIE, Esq. Of Phantassie, Mr BROWN of Markle, Mr ROBERT HOPE of Fenton, Mr ADAM BOGUE of Linplum, and Mr JOHN BRODIE of Scoughall. He farmed very extensively, being tenant of Lawhead, Traprain and Kippielaw, and the hill farm of Johnscleuch. Mr WILLIAM HOWDEN, oldest son of Mr ANDREW HOWDEN, died at Traprain, 24th March 1876, aged 50, and was buried at Prestonkirk. True tributes to the memory of this estimable and deeply lamented gentleman appeared in the Haddingtonshire Courier of 31st March 1876. He spent the early part of his life in India, where he married, as an indigo planter. Coming home, he was tenant of Stonelaws for nineteen years. At the end of his lease, he was induced to visit the kingdom of Portugal. In a series of letters which were inserted in the Courier, he published his First Impressions of Portugal, which were graphically described, and were much thought of at the time. He afterwards became tenant of Traprain. The intelligence of Mr WILLIAM HOWDEN's death caused the deepest regret to his relatives and wide circle of friends, many of whom are still living, and can bear ample testimony to his sterling worth, kind heart, and loving spirit. Mrs HOWDEN still survives him. Recognise any rellies? Regards George Wallace

More wee hours waffle ( and yes the spell checker IS off ) This postings extracted from my copy of "Reminiscences and Notices of the Parishes of the County of Haddington " by JOHN MARTINE published 1890 using information from the 1755, 1793 and 1841 Statistical Accounts of Haddingtonshire. John Martine in a more pensive mood in this one. <The late ROBERT BAIRD, Esq. of Newbyth, was long well-known as an active East Lothian magistrate and county gentleman. He was member for the Haddington district of Burghs in 1801 and 1802. He kept a good stud of hunters, and was owner of several, famous race horses: one called "Cleveland" ran second for the St Leger at Doncaster in 1826; the "Pirate" was well-known at Musselburgh, Kelso, Perth. &c. The fine property of Seacliffe, including the farms of Auldhame and Scoughall, formerly belonged to the COLTS of Cartsherrie. They sold it to JOHN BRODIE, Esq., the tenant of Scoughall, burdened with the life-rent of Mrs COLT, who lived to a great age. The purchase turned out a bargain for Mr BRODIE. GEORGE SLIGO, Esq., Merchant in Leith, bought it from Mr BRODIE, his daughter Lady HARRIS sold it for a large sum to the late Mr LAIDLAY in whose family it remains. Seacliffe House and grounds have the command.of some of the finest sea views that are anywhere to be met with. The land is of the best quality, much of it stretches along the coast to Peffer side, and is light, sandy and benty. The names of a number of old farmers in Whitekirk parish will still be recollected by old residenters. Mr ALEXANDER DUDGEON, of Newmains and Lochhouses, was an excellent farmer. He was the first in the county to use bone dust for raising turnips. He was much ridiculed at first for his attempt. The country folk could not understand how "Dry Banes' could raise a crop of turnips. His success in doing so, and growing heavy crops, soon dissipated their fears. Mr DUDGEON left Lochhouses somewhere about 1824, having become tenant of the farms of Falkland Wood and Durno, on the Falkland estate in Fifeshire. He was succeeded by Mr WALTER HOOD, and after his death by his brother GEORGE, also now dead. The HOODS were old East Lothian folk, and were much esteemed; also Mr JOHN HOOD, tenant of Newmains, formerly farmer at Long Yester. Mr HUGH L. MITCHELL, the late tenant of Lochhouses, died in 1890, much regretted by a numerous circle of friends. The name of Mr ANDREW HOWDEN, senior, of Tyninghame, Lawhead, will not soon be forgotten in the county. He was a gentleman of superior mark, and one of the most distinguished agriculturists of his day. Conversant with all the details of farming, he was much sought after as a valuator of land and an arbiter in agricultural matters and disputes. He was several times examined as a witness before the House of Commons, along with other East Lothian farmers, in the long continued and vexed question of the Corn Laws. He was the author of several very accurate reports on agricultural subjects, and gained premiums for them, which were offered by the Highland Society. The last communication made (as stated in the Statistical Account of the Parish written by Dr WALLACE in 1841) by Mr HOWDEN, related to the growth and qualities of upwards of a hundred varieties of the potato. The report contains several interesting facts, amongst others, that it is safe and profitable to plant the tubers whole, rather than to cut them, as is commonly done. Mr HOWDEN was a contemporary of the late GEORGE RENNIE, Esq. Of Phantassie, Mr BROWN of Markle, Mr ROBERT HOPE of Fenton, Mr ADAM BOGUE of Linplum, and Mr JOHN BRODIE of Scoughall. He farmed very extensively, being tenant of Lawhead, Traprain and Kippielaw, and the hill farm of Johnscleuch. Mr WILLIAM HOWDEN, oldest son of Mr ANDREW HOWDEN, died at Traprain, 24th March 1876, aged 50, and was buried at Prestonkirk. True tributes to the memory of this estimable and deeply lamented gentleman appeared in the Haddingtonshire Courier of 31st March 1876. He spent the early part of his life in India, where he married, as an indigo planter. Coming home, he was tenant of Stonelaws for nineteen years. At the end of his lease, he was induced to visit the kingdom of Portugal. In a series of letters which were inserted in the Courier, he published his First Impressions of Portugal, which were graphically described, and were much thought of at the time. He afterwards became tenant of Traprain. The intelligence of Mr WILLIAM HOWDEN's death caused the deepest regret to his relatives and wide circle of friends, many of whom are still living, and can bear ample testimony to his sterling worth, kind heart, and loving spirit. Mrs HOWDEN still survives him. Recognise any rellies? Regards George Wallace

More wee hours waffle ( and yes the spell checker IS off ) This postings extracted from my copy of "Reminiscences and Notices of the Parishes of the County of Haddington " by JOHN MARTINE published 1890 using information from the 1755, 1793 and 1841 Statistical Accounts of Haddingtonshire. John Martine in a more pensive mood in this one. <The late ROBERT BAIRD, Esq. of Newbyth, was long well-known as an active East Lothian magistrate and county gentleman. He was member for the Haddington district of Burghs in 1801 and 1802. He kept a good stud of hunters, and was owner of several, famous race horses: one called "Cleveland" ran second for the St Leger at Doncaster in 1826; the "Pirate" was well-known at Musselburgh, Kelso, Perth. &c. The fine property of Seacliffe, including the farms of Auldhame and Scoughall, formerly belonged to the COLTS of Cartsherrie. They sold it to JOHN BRODIE, Esq., the tenant of Scoughall, burdened with the life-rent of Mrs COLT, who lived to a great age. The purchase turned out a bargain for Mr BRODIE. GEORGE SLIGO, Esq., Merchant in Leith, bought it from Mr BRODIE, his daughter Lady HARRIS sold it for a large sum to the late Mr LAIDLAY in whose family it remains. Seacliffe House and grounds have the command.of some of the finest sea views that are anywhere to be met with. The land is of the best quality, much of it stretches along the coast to Peffer side, and is light, sandy and benty. The names of a number of old farmers in Whitekirk parish will still be recollected by old residenters. Mr ALEXANDER DUDGEON, of Newmains and Lochhouses, was an excellent farmer. He was the first in the county to use bone dust for raising turnips. He was much ridiculed at first for his attempt. The country folk could not understand how "Dry Banes' could raise a crop of turnips. His success in doing so, and growing heavy crops, soon dissipated their fears. Mr DUDGEON left Lochhouses somewhere about 1824, having become tenant of the farms of Falkland Wood and Durno, on the Falkland estate in Fifeshire. He was succeeded by Mr WALTER HOOD, and after his death by his brother GEORGE, also now dead. The HOODS were old East Lothian folk, and were much esteemed; also Mr JOHN HOOD, tenant of Newmains, formerly farmer at Long Yester. Mr HUGH L. MITCHELL, the late tenant of Lochhouses, died in 1890, much regretted by a numerous circle of friends. The name of Mr ANDREW HOWDEN, senior, of Tyninghame, Lawhead, will not soon be forgotten in the county. He was a gentleman of superior mark, and one of the most distinguished agriculturists of his day. Conversant with all the details of farming, he was much sought after as a valuator of land and an arbiter in agricultural matters and disputes. He was several times examined as a witness before the House of Commons, along with other East Lothian farmers, in the long continued and vexed question of the Corn Laws. He was the author of several very accurate reports on agricultural subjects, and gained premiums for them, which were offered by the Highland Society. The last communication made (as stated in the Statistical Account of the Parish written by Dr WALLACE in 1841) by Mr HOWDEN, related to the growth and qualities of upwards of a hundred varieties of the potato. The report contains several interesting facts, amongst others, that it is safe and profitable to plant the tubers whole, rather than to cut them, as is commonly done. Mr HOWDEN was a contemporary of the late GEORGE RENNIE, Esq. Of Phantassie, Mr BROWN of Markle, Mr ROBERT HOPE of Fenton, Mr ADAM BOGUE of Linplum, and Mr JOHN BRODIE of Scoughall. He farmed very extensively, being tenant of Lawhead, Traprain and Kippielaw, and the hill farm of Johnscleuch. Mr WILLIAM HOWDEN, oldest son of Mr ANDREW HOWDEN, died at Traprain, 24th March 1876, aged 50, and was buried at Prestonkirk. True tributes to the memory of this estimable and deeply lamented gentleman appeared in the Haddingtonshire Courier of 31st March 1876. He spent the early part of his life in India, where he married, as an indigo planter. Coming home, he was tenant of Stonelaws for nineteen years. At the end of his lease, he was induced to visit the kingdom of Portugal. In a series of letters which were inserted in the Courier, he published his First Impressions of Portugal, which were graphically described, and were much thought of at the time. He afterwards became tenant of Traprain. The intelligence of Mr WILLIAM HOWDEN's death caused the deepest regret to his relatives and wide circle of friends, many of whom are still living, and can bear ample testimony to his sterling worth, kind heart, and loving spirit. Mrs HOWDEN still survives him. Recognise any rellies? Regards George Wallace

Hi Have you thought of posting this directly to the RENTON list at [email protected] ? regards Gary -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: March 28, 2002 4:16 PM Subject: [SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN] RENTON in Bolton/Saltoun/Yester mid 1700 >Help from a fresh pair of eyes please, >I posted these extracts in May 2000 on the Midlothian site (as was) in the >hope that the THOMAS RENTON and WILLIAM RENTON may connect with someone with >more RENTON information that may have helped prove my WALLACE tree back a >further generation. >THOMAS and WILLIAM RENTON were Cautioners to the Marriage of my WILLIAM >WALLACE and JANET RENTON in SALTOUN 05/04/1777 (sorry my last impromptu >posting stated that William and Janet married in Bolton. Error) >The original posting ex OPR :- >Salton 13th Dec. 1775 >THOMAS RENTON in East Salton & BEATRICE BATHGATE in the parish of Gifford >gave up their names for proclamation in order of marriage. >Cautioners for the Bridegroom WILLIAM RENTON > the Bride JOHN BATHGATE >Salton 14th May 1780 >WILLIAM RENTON in ye parish of Haddington & HELEN HENDERSON in ye parish of >Salton gave up their names for proclamation in order to marriage. >Cautioners for the Bridegroom ROBERT AINSLIE > the Bride JOHN MERRIL??? (Merrilies?) >My WILLIAM and JANET may have used the "old" naming pattern for issue :- >HELEN c 16/03/1778 Bolton >WILLIAM c 09/04/1780 Bolton >THOMAS c 13/03/1782 Bolton >WILLIAM c 18/07/1784 Gladsmuir >JANET c 27/08/1786 Haddington witness GEORGE & JOHN WALLACE >MARGARET c15/03/1789 Haddington >MARTHA MATILDA c 23/11/1791 Dirleton >I had my WILLIAM WALLACE as the son of DAVID WALLACE and ALLISON REIDPATH >christened in Yester 07/03/1756 ) which tied in with dates, place, witness >George and John but not with the "good old naming pattern". >Question >Does anyone out there own up to having a JANET RENTON that fits my Janets' >profile? >Best regards >George Wallace > > >==== SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN Mailing List ==== >Be sure to check in surrounding counties for ancestors too! Subscribe to the Midlothian-L or D by sending the word subscribe to [email protected] OR [email protected] > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi, I wish :-). !! The census shows a John HAMILTON living in the gatehouse, who may just be my grgrgrandfather. He was previously the farm steward at Wall Tower House, home of the Hamilton-Dalrymple family. They believed in keeping things in the family :-) Thank you so much for the information. I'll do some more checking. Mary Hamilton