Therese What dates are you speaking about for your Grays and Aitchison? I have a Gray Mary who married an Aitchison william in Dunbar i think but am not yet sure of dates, I would have to look that up in my book. Sheila

Hello everyone, Time to re-post, always looking for AITCHESON/AITCHISON - Athelstaneford, Garvald, Dunbar KERR/KER/CARR - Athelstaneford, Dunbar GRAY - Garvald, Dunbar CHIRNSIDE - Garvald WILKINSON - Haddington MASON - Haddington BEALE/BAIL - Haddington Oxfordshire - WITHERS, HOWLETT, LOCK Berkshire - WITHERS, FRANCIS, KING Wiltshire - WITHERS, KING Cambridgeshire - DEAN, PETTIT, GIFFORD/KIFFORD/KEFFORD, HOPWOOD, CLARKE, MOREWHO, FLETTON/FLITTON Suffolk - PETTIT, SMITH Kent - BROWN, WICKS, NYE, RUSSELL, WATERS, CLEMMENT Middlesex - RUSSELL London - McLAUGHLIN/McLOUGHLAN (and variants) Sussex - BRAY, THATCHER, WALKIER, GOODWIN, CROWHURST, FOX, NYE, CROUCH Ireland - Fermanagh - MAGUIRE, McLAUGHLAN Dublin - MOXWORTHY, MOCKESWORTHY (and variants) Anywhere - LARKIN, O'DONNELL, KAVANAGH/CAVANAGH, McDONOUGH. Love to hear from anyone, Therese Galanakis Kythera Greece

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XeC.2ACI/1006.1.1 Message Board Post: More Info Found William Eeles m Jane Black Children Jane George Frank Helen Jessie Mary Agnes Christina Jane married Andrew Wilson Children Jessie John William Primrose Jean Mary Helen Andrew Harold William m Mary Scott Dorward Moved to Australia approx 1930 Children Bruce Eric Joyce

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XeC.2ACI/1006.1 Message Board Post: Andrew Wilson was my Great Grandfather He married Jane Black Eeles on 16th Nov 1893 Their Son William Eeles Wilson married Mary Scott Wilson They were my Grandparents I have no information about Andrew or Janes Parents or if they had other children, (I would find it hard to believe if they didn't.) I am still researching. Regards Ian Lycett Hobart Tasmania Australia

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XeC.2ACI/964.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I have no knowledge of any Crail's that are in America. My husbands family name is Carraill; there is obviously a name relationship somewhere, but a long way back. Regards, Andrea

Hello, I am new to this list and would like to name my family connections. I am descended from a large family of KING in East Lothian & Berwickshire. Our earliest proven record is from John KING, a Soldier/Shoemaker in the Royall Regiment of Foot, who married Elizabeth TRUNCH in 1748 in Coldingham. One of John & Elizabeth's sons, Hugh married Agnes WHITE in 1779 at Cockburnspath and Robert was born in 1793. My Great grandmother Isabel KING was the ninth of ten daughters to Robert KING and Elizabeth COOPER, who moved to Wooler, Northumberland between 1821 and 1833. Family lore says that Robert was a young drummer boy at the Battle of Corunna. I am still looking for the proof. At last New Year I was contacted by an Andy KING, having seen my entry on the GENUKI East Lothian Names List. We are fourth cousins once removed, our common ancestors being Hugh and Agnes above. We are seeking to find the birth/baptism of John, born approx. 1723, we believe. I am at present going through the OPR film for Coldingham at my local FHC. Shoemaker is the common trade in the family along with the name Hugh. There are KING families to this day in East Lothian and Midlothian. Anyone else out there connected? Regards, Gil. Hall. Southampton, England Researching HALL, NBL / DUR; DENT, DUR; KING, BEW / NBL / DUR; STEWART, Edinburgh, MLN / DUR; WINTON, Musselburgh, MLN / STS; BEAUMONT, STS / SAL; HOLDEN (ING), STS; BEES, SOM. ANDERSON, NBL; DAVISON, NBL.

I am wondering if anyone is researching the BERTRAM family from East Lothian. I am looking for my Grandfather's first wife and am only assuming that as he was from Ormiston that his wife would have been also. His name was David Thomson AMOS and the information I have from the back of a photograph of her is: Jessie Craig Bertram Amos died at Morningside, Lanarkshire, Scotland August 30, 1915 age 30 They were living in Lanarkshire as there was work in the coal mines over there. Sound familiar to anyone? Bev Allen Langley, BC Canada

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Frasier, Fraser, Frazier Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XeC.2ACI/595.1 Message Board Post: Is it possible that your James Frasier could possible be the same line as mine. My great great grandfather was James Henry Frasier b. 1857, father was Oliver Frasier. I am wondering if possibly John W. Frasier might have been his brother or maybe a cousin. Was your John Frasier married to Matilda Campbell?

Hi George the thing with the Scottish I.G.I only has all the marriages from the O.P.R . the chr are only what their individual members include for sealing etc. To see all the chr you have to check the O.P.R which are at the ORIGINS SITE also on microfiche & a c/d called Scottish Church Records at any Family History Library.(L.D.S ) The I.G.I does have all the civil registration from 1855 to 1875 which you can send to the L.D.S main centres & get a photocopy for $4.00 aud All the Best Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, 5 April 2002 6:36 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN] IGI batch numbers > Thanks Barbara, > I tried substituting the prefix letter of C for K,J and M as you suggested > but came up with no results. > Is there further magic I should be working? > All the searches resulting in marriage records of male or female using Hugh > Wallis's program come from batch numbers starting in "M" > All the christenings coming up with a result ( all female ) start with "C" > Do the male births all fall into another category starting with "?" > Or is the system of batch numbers purely random and the records of male > christenings not included in the IGI listings? > I would welcome your input > Best Regards > George Wallace > > > ==== SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN Mailing List ==== > Look for Haddingtonshire villages and parishes in the Statistical Accounts of Scotland online: http://edina.ac.uk/cgi/StatAcc/StatAcc.cgi > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello, I'm Keith Hayward; I'm from Brisbane, Australia and also new to the list. I am posting my surname interests in the hope that someone else is researching them. Part of my family migrated to Australia from Prestonpans in the 1870's. The names I'm interested in are Smith and Young. GGG/Grandfather was Peter Young Smith who married Crespina Crowden. His parents were Mathew Smith and Janet Young. Thanks

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XeC.2ACI/108.2 Message Board Post: Ray I have a connection with the name Aitken. My Grandmothers maiden name was Aitken, She comes from Scotland. She migrated to Australia in the 50's.

Thanks Barbara, I tried substituting the prefix letter of C for K,J and M as you suggested but came up with no results. Is there further magic I should be working? All the searches resulting in marriage records of male or female using Hugh Wallis's program come from batch numbers starting in "M" All the christenings coming up with a result ( all female ) start with "C" Do the male births all fall into another category starting with "?" Or is the system of batch numbers purely random and the records of male christenings not included in the IGI listings? I would welcome your input Best Regards George Wallace

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XeC.2ACI/964.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I have info on Thomas Crail. He was born in 1720, Scotland or Ireland. There seems to be some debate about where. He died in Hartford, Maryland and was married to Jane Wilson. They had 10 children and Thomas Crail Jr. is the one who ended up in Pendleton County. He was married to Elizabeth Barry. Thomas died in 1809 and I have found where he is buried. Planning on going there soon and taking picture of his tombstone. He is buried on the Thrasher farm. Have met the people who own it now and they have confirmed that the grave is there. Hard to get to.

Hi the L.D.S name extractions had 3 ways of doing this they may do all the marriages of a parish or female chr start the batch number with a K & for males its a J or otherway around . So its a matter of putting the K, J or M. On the O.P.R all christenings for the church of scotland are there. regards Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, 4 April 2002 5:04 AM Subject: [SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN] IGI batch numbers > Evening > A posting on the Lanarkshire list (yes there are other lists out there;-)) > put words to something I had noticed about searches performed using the batch > number system courtesy of Hugh Wallis. I may be stating the obvious if so > please excuse my naivety, I welcome your insights. > The lister stated that doing a "blanket"search of the parishes in Lanarkshire > the results all came up with female christenings. > I had done a similar search of the Haddingtonshire parishes for WALLACE > events and had drawn the same conclusion. Was the "controlled" extraction > restricted to the female births and male marriages to try to capture the > families using the minimum number of searches/records? > I have my own WALLACE listings for Haddington drawn from various sources and > compared a search from the IGI list and my own. > Several families show missing males which would have stopped the researcher > who only use the IGI dead in their branches :-). e.g. > One of the family groups was > WILLIAM WALLACE & JANET RENTON > issue according to IGI search > HELEN 16 MAR 1778 Saltoun > JANET 27AUG 1786 Haddington > MARGARET 15MAR 1789 Haddington > MARTHA MATILDA 23 NOV 1791 Dirleton > Add the following from Origins search > WILLIAM 9 APR 1780 Bolton > THOMAS 17 FEB 1782 Bolton > WILLIAM 18 JUL 1784 Gladsmuir > We all know the IGI is incomplete but if the omission of male > birth/christening records from the extraction was a deliberate policy, the > publication of this fact would save many researchers time and effort. > > > ==== SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN Mailing List ==== > Join the Lothians Family History Society! Visit their homepage by pointing your web browser to http://www.btinternet.com/~mmgene/lfhs/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Evening A posting on the Lanarkshire list (yes there are other lists out there;-)) put words to something I had noticed about searches performed using the batch number system courtesy of Hugh Wallis. I may be stating the obvious if so please excuse my naivety, I welcome your insights. The lister stated that doing a "blanket"search of the parishes in Lanarkshire the results all came up with female christenings. I had done a similar search of the Haddingtonshire parishes for WALLACE events and had drawn the same conclusion. Was the "controlled" extraction restricted to the female births and male marriages to try to capture the families using the minimum number of searches/records? I have my own WALLACE listings for Haddington drawn from various sources and compared a search from the IGI list and my own. Several families show missing males which would have stopped the researcher who only use the IGI dead in their branches :-). e.g. One of the family groups was WILLIAM WALLACE & JANET RENTON issue according to IGI search HELEN 16 MAR 1778 Saltoun JANET 27AUG 1786 Haddington MARGARET 15MAR 1789 Haddington MARTHA MATILDA 23 NOV 1791 Dirleton Add the following from Origins search WILLIAM 9 APR 1780 Bolton THOMAS 17 FEB 1782 Bolton WILLIAM 18 JUL 1784 Gladsmuir We all know the IGI is incomplete but if the omission of male birth/christening records from the extraction was a deliberate policy, the publication of this fact would save many researchers time and effort.

Good Evening Tied up some old notes taken from MIs in Dunbar with notes in my database. These are not connected to my tree but its nice to find a "full" family, its got to belong to one of you out there! OPR notes JOHN WALLACE m JANET McGILL Dunbar 25/12/1789 Issue all in Dunbar GEORGE b 21/11/1790 ISABEL b 24/06/1792 JAMES b 16/03/1794 JOHN b 20/03/1796 MARGARET b 27/03/1798 WILLIAM b 17/05/1806 THOMAS b 26/07/1808 >From Headstone JOHN WALLACE Tailor in Dunbar died 9 April 1820 aged 59 Also his children who died in infancy Also JANET McGILL wife died 6 Feb 1829 aged 67 >From my records Only JOHN WALLACE I can find in my lists born circa the correct year :- Born 28/11/1762 to ROBERT WALLACE & AGNUS NESBAT in Haddington. I,d have been happier to find a JOHN to a GEORGE & MARGARET circa that date to have a happier finish. But hey! you cant have everything. Just wish I could find that sort of detail to my puzzle. Night from Yorkshire George Wallace

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XeC.2ACI/1074 Message Board Post: Hello, Today I have finally reviewed another census and gotten the same birth area for an ancestor of mine and I am looking for direction. Any suggestions or direction would be most helpful. The person's name is John Baird and he was my gggrandfather. In the 1861 Kilsyth census, he is listed as being born in Edinburgh, Mid Lothian between 1806-1810. In the 1871 census, for Kilsyth, Stirlingshire he is listed as being born in 1806 in Edinburgh, Inveresk. The 1851 says Biggar, Lanarkshire so I am hoping the majority rules. In his 1875 burial record from Kilsyth, he is listed as being 65 years old and the ages fluctuate in the various census withing the range I mentioned above. His parents were James Baird and Agnes Nicol as listed on his burial record. Thank you, Bill Baird

Seeking connections with my wife's ancestors :- ELIZABETH WHITE m.Whittinghame 1794 John Lees. Donald Robertson, Kyleakin, Isle of Skye

Might be of use to someone - WATT David, son of Andrew Watt, Hind in Ferrygate and his wife Christian KIRKWOOD was born this day and baptised "publickly" January 2nd 1828 BATHGATE Marrion daughter of Joseph Bathgate, Hind in Newhouse and his wife Janet THOMSON was born this day and baptized, witnesses James Miller and William K(?)B(?)eith December 1st 1827 RUNCIMAN Isabel daughter of Charles Runciman, Carrier in Dirleton and his wife Isabel WHITE was born this day and baptised "publickly" January 12th, 1828 Best wishes, Eileen in Hampshire http://www.geocities.com/elnalexjoe/lowlands.html

For Geoffrey and Douglas If it is any help, Coates is a small farming community on the outskirts of Longniddry in East Lothian. Regards Derek >From: "Douglas Grant" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: [MLN] Labourer in Coats >Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 08:13:25 -0000 > >Hi all, I'm not aware of a place called Coats, could it be the name of the >company he worked for (i.e. the textile company, I think now called Coats >Viyella)? Maybe a long shot but who knows... > >Douglas Grant > >http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=djgrant > >http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/g/r/a/Douglas-J-Grant/index.html > > -----Original Message----- >From: Geoffrey Burns [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 6:43 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [MLN] Labourer in Coats > >While searching through OPR christening records, I found my >g-g-g-grandfathers occupation was listed as Labourer in Coats. I wonder if >anyone could enlighten me as to what that means exactly. Thanks for your >help. > >Geoff Burns > >Searching in MLN for Wilson, Murray, Young, and Breckenridge. > > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx