This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Sandy_Jack Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.clk.general/467.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Name: James Dow Birth: 22 Sep 1805 - Alloa, Clackmannan (Clackmannanshire), Scotland Death: 07 Apr 1887 (7 Apr 1887) - Ontario, Canada Parents: James Dow, Annie Kirk Spouse: Elizabeth Colquhoun Not sure if this is the one you are looking for. Places to search. If you sign up to Ancestry.com or .co.uk or .ca You will have access to other family trees and Canadian census (which should give you the childrens names). Not sure if there is free Cdn census anywhere. Check out www.collectionscanada.gc.ca see if they post the census there. Good luck. SJ Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Is anyone interested in William Paterson & Catherine Johnston who married December 1777 at Alloa? They moved on to Shettleston, Lanarkshire about two years later. Two of their children Margaret and William are fourth great-grandparents of mine. Neil Cameron

Wrong info I downloaded recently with the hope it might help somebody. There is no other info available than what is shown. Elizabeth Jean OPR 466/00500158 CLACKMANNAN 2 July 1812 William PRALICE servt Tulligarth and Catherine MILLAR had a lawful daur B. Catherine in presence vco. 10 July 1812 John SNADON Collier Sauchie Village and Mary FERGUSON had a lawful daur B.Christian in presence vco 11 July 1812 William FIFE Collier Sauchie and Janet WHITE had a lawful son B.William in presence of vco 21 July 1812 James BAIN labourer Kilbagee and Margaret LUKE had a lawful son B.John inpresence of vco. 26 July 1812 Archibald FORSYTHE Servant Kennet - pans and Mary HALL had a lawful son B.John in presence of vco 6 May 1812 Mary HALL had abastard son Alexander McLeary MILLAR Archibald MILLAR acknowledges he is the father of said child 27 April 1812 John DempsterWRIGHT Ferryton, and AlisonSPRY had a lawful daur B. Jean at the Relief 29 January 1812 Alexander ESPIE Moulder Sauchie and Jean SAMUEL had a lawful daur B. Janet at the Relief 27 July 1812 William WILSON Coalier Kennet and Mary RUSSELL had a lawful son B William at the --surgers Kincardinshire

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gleneagle81 Surnames: NELSON Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.clk.general/469/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I would like to get in touch with any descendants of William Nelson born in 1873 in Tillicoultry Clackmannanshire he was a wollen scourer by occupation. He had two older sisters Jane Nelson born 1863 and Mary Nelson born 1865 both born in Dunning Perthshire. His mother's name was Jane Nelson born 1841 in Glasgow. If anyone knows anything about these people I would be most interested to hear from them. Many thanks Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: menstrie Surnames: Archibald Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.clk.general/82.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have some information on Archibald's Menstrie Mill. Please email me on kenblackwood@btinternet.com regards Ken Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Sandy_Jack Surnames: White, Fife, Jack Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.clk.general/468.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank-you! John. I did not see that post. It is just so strange that on three birth registries it says Fife. I just have to wrap my head around the fact that it just could be that way...It is the logical/analytical side of me coming out..but I guess if that was the way, that is, what is. Many thanks for passing this along. Sandy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: designscreen Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.clk.general/468.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Sandy, Don't know if you saaw the reply on the SCT-CLACKMANNAN list to your inquiry: "Hi! My belief is that the Name White is a phonetic transcription error of the name Fife ( what the transcribers heard is what they wrote and according to their own experience), reasons are the similar sound and that it has only one syllable. This is the main reason why there is so many variations of spellings of surnames. Cheers Chris L. Patterson" - and I'd go along with Chris. My great-gradnmother was a Mary WHYTE, born in Lochgelly Fife, but her family were originally from Clackmannan. Quite often she referred to herself as Mary Fyte.... She was born in 1880 and died just a week short of 90 in 1970 - so I remember her well! John Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Sandy_Jack Surnames: White, Fife Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.clk.general/468.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Ruth, Thank-you for your reply. I have the downloaded copies from ScotlandsPeople. This is what caused the confusion. The marriage download is White, but 3 of the births several years apart say Fife. My next step would be to look for the downloads of the other children whose names are not listed on the LDS site. Regards, Sandy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ruthhay2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.clk.general/468.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi it could just be a very bad type/copy error, thats happend to me i started searching for a marion kiddec only to find out her name was marjory kyd! have you tried searching the scanned imagies in www.scotlandspeoples.gov.org ? that may give you a clue as to where the error came from,or it could be that when the births were reg the registrar wasnt listening and wrote down what he thought the last name was, mum/dad may not have been able to read/write so was unable to correct the mistake. sorry if thats not been much help but you may just have to put it down to human error. good luck Ruth Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi! My belief is that the Name White is a phonetic transcription error of the name Fife ( what the transcribers heard is what they wrote and according to their own experience), reasons are the similar sound and that it has only one syllable. This is the main reason why there is so many variations of spellings of surnames. Cheers Chris L. Patterson ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <SCT-CLACKMANNANSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 12:08 AM Subject: [SCT-CLACKMANNANSHIRE] Janet White - Mystery > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: Sandy_Jack > Surnames: JACK, TEAM, LAIRD, GARDNER, MILLER, STEWART, HAY, WHITE, HUNTER > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.clk.general/468/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Hello Everyone! > I have somewhat of a mystery to solve. In the family I am searching I > have a Janet WHITE b. 1794 Dollar, CLK, married in Kinross-shire to a John > JACK b 1790 Blairingone. (have both marriage and death of Janet WHITE - > John listed as deceased husband) **However, during the period of their > marriage, 3 of the 7 children have Janet Fife listed on their birth > registry. These were the last three of the marriage before the early > demise of John JACK (I have those copies too.) I cannot figure out why > Janet Fife is appearing on the births unless she was married prior. The > only marriage of a Janet White to a FIFE in CLK was when Janet was 11 yrs > old. I then have trouble tracking. I looked up William Fife in the 1841 > census and there is no woman present in the household. I wonder how > common it was for woman to leave a marriage...then get re-married? Any > assistance would be greatly appreciate. Thanks, Happy New Year to All. > Sandy > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-CLACKMANNANSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am also searching STEWART in Clackmannonshire. Who are your STEWARTs? Regards, Georgia

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Sandy_Jack Surnames: JACK, TEAM, LAIRD, GARDNER, MILLER, STEWART, HAY, WHITE, HUNTER Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.clk.general/468/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Everyone! I have somewhat of a mystery to solve. In the family I am searching I have a Janet WHITE b. 1794 Dollar, CLK, married in Kinross-shire to a John JACK b 1790 Blairingone. (have both marriage and death of Janet WHITE - John listed as deceased husband) **However, during the period of their marriage, 3 of the 7 children have Janet Fife listed on their birth registry. These were the last three of the marriage before the early demise of John JACK (I have those copies too.) I cannot figure out why Janet Fife is appearing on the births unless she was married prior. The only marriage of a Janet White to a FIFE in CLK was when Janet was 11 yrs old. I then have trouble tracking. I looked up William Fife in the 1841 census and there is no woman present in the household. I wonder how common it was for woman to leave a marriage...then get re-married? Any assistance would be greatly appreciate. Thanks, Happy New Year to All. Sandy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi list, In the 1841 census is a family of PATERSON's. David PATERSON Head 35 Janet PATERSON Wife 33 Marjory Dau 9 George Son 5 Christian Dau 2 I have got Janet's death certificate and her parents were James PATERSON and Janet PHILP Does anyone have any info on this family, are there any contacts Regards Lorraine Joy Bower

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: isisuk Surnames: Walker, Darlington, May, Scott, Coombs, Apfell Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.clk.general/451.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello I have found lots more info about Ralph Walker since I made this post & his published Biography. I have details of his parents in the UK & distant family in Jamaica.There is also a connection to the May family in England, Scotland & Jamaica. Please contact me directly. I have alot of info to share. I suspect my walker family was descended from either the 1749-1824 Ralph Walker or one of his sons, who was also called Ralph Walker. I also managed to find some UK Local libray info about his life & work in England. Looking forward to hearing from you Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: isisuk Surnames: Walker, Darlington, May, Scott, Coombs, Apfell Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.clk.general/451.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello I have found lots more info about Ralph Walker since I made this post & his published Biography. I have details of his parents in the UK & distant family in Jamaica.There is also a connection to the May family in England, Scotland & Jamaica. Please contact me directly. I have alot of info to share. I suspect my walker family was descended from either the 1749-1824 Ralph Walker or one of his sons, who was also called Ralph Walker. I also managed to find some UK Local libray info about his life & work in England. Looking forward to hearing from you Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: isisuk Surnames: Walker, Apfell, Darlington, May, Scott Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.clk.general/451.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello I have found lots more info about Ralph Walker since I made this post & his published Biography. I have details of his parents in the UK & distant family in Jamaica.There is also a connection to the May family in England, Scotland & Jamaica. Please contact me directly. I have alot of info to share. I suspect my walker family was descended from either the 1749-1824 Ralph Walker or one of his sons, who was also called Ralph Walker. I also managed to find some UK Local libray info about his life & work in England. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jrwhite157 Surnames: Dow Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.clk.general/467/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for help locating family info for James Dow listed as Sailing on "David of London " in June 1821 Need wife and Chidrens Names Unsure where to hunt Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ybean Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.clk.general/466.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You're welcome. In Scotland, there were many non-conformist Presbyterian churches, many of which have not been indexed onto the IGI at FamilySearch nor have the ScotlandsPeople these records as yet. On FamilySearch, the extracted records only go to 1875, so any children after this can only be found on Census records or BMD indexes. Pre this period, to find the children of a set of parents - put in both parents' names in the Father & Mother area. OK - in Scotland, the banns (engagement announcements) were called in both parties church & then usually married in hers: John Robertson & Elizabeth Donaldson 11 Nov 1823 Logie, Perth John Robertson mar Elizabeth Donaldson 20 Jan 1824 Alloa, Clackmannan Because this marriage was pre civil registration (1855) you may not find the parent's names on the marriage records. To find both parents of John Robertson & Elizabeth Donaldson, if they died after 1855 - you will have to get their Death certificates. If you contact me at ykb@gil.com.au I may have more information for you. BonnieB Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: johntyner2001 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.clk.general/466.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: bonnie, thanx, alexander did marry helen cropper as i have found her father with alexander and the rest of their children including my grt grandmother. my mum always says that she(my grt grandmother) was from glasgow. my grt grandmother is alice may robertson born 1879/1880 in glasgow. but i cannot find her on familysearch. i have found alex and his siblings in 1851 census onwards i have also found helen croppers siblings and parents the reason why i thought that alex's mother was elizabeth somerville was that isabel somerville aged 87 was in one fo the censuses with them. though she could be a grandmother of someone else im not sure and i cannot find any elizabeth donaldson on familysearch married to john robertson Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ybean Surnames: Bean - Logie, Perth Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.clk.general/466.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: John - can you tell me how you got this far - only by Census?? You must get Alexander's marriage certificate - this will give you both parent's names. This is a must if you want to prove the line, you cannot only use the Census. If the siblings are right - go to www.familysearch.org you will find that the parents may be John Robertson & Elizabeth Donaldson. You should also find Alexander's marriage on the index there & their children's births (pre 1875 only). Did Alexander marry a Helen Cropper - if so, the marriage & children are all listed. Oh yes - Pre 1975 Logie was listed as being in Perthshire even though this parish crossed the borders of Perthshire, Stirlingshire & Clackmannan. Cheers - BonnieB Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.