Correct url below - sorry > From: weblogz@hotmail.com > To: sct-clackmannanshire@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:15:58 +1000 > Subject: [SCT-CLACKMANNANSHIRE] Here are transcriptions for a number of Scottish Counties for Marriages and Deaths > > > Hi, > > I have just completed the first stage of transcibing Scottish Marriages and Deaths which I have gathered over the > years which are not related to my families but where additional names on pages I had ordered. They cover a number of > different counties and can be found at http://www.howdiie.com > > Hope they are helpfull to someone > Regards Jenny > > _________________________________________________________________ > What goes online, stays online Check the daily blob for the latest on what's happening around the web > http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/blog.aspx > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-CLACKMANNANSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ View photos of singles in your area Click Here http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fdating%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fsearch%2Fsearch%2Easpx%3Fexec%3Dgo%26tp%3Dq%26gc%3D2%26tr%3D1%26lage%3D18%26uage%3D55%26cl%3D14%26sl%3D0%26dist%3D50%26po%3D1%26do%3D2%26trackingid%3D1046138%26r2s%3D1&_t=773166090&_r=Hotmail_Endtext&_m=EXT

Hi, I have just completed the first stage of transcibing Scottish Marriages and Deaths which I have gathered over the years which are not related to my families but where additional names on pages I had ordered. They cover a number of different counties and can be found at http://howdiie.com Hope they are helpfull to someone Regards Jenny _________________________________________________________________ What goes online, stays online Check the daily blob for the latest on what's happening around the web http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/blog.aspx

-------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Elaine Jefferson" <jeffersoneb@patash.com.au> If ther is anyone on the list that has the headstone registers or burial > Registers for Alloa I would be very itnerested to learn of a few families > > The family in question.. > John / James Donaldson married Jean Fotheringham 1816 in Clackmanna and they had Elaine: Firstly, you do not have to "join" SP. You just register, buy some credits and they are available if you need them to review indexes or DOWNLOAD certs. It is an incredible bargain and cannot be underestimated in the scheme of Scottish Genealogy. Your NZ and Australian Archives and Vital Records offices are doing the same thing. Some have free searches, but downloads require credit cards. Alloa Churchyard: #341 - Peter McCaulay 5.5.1910 71, w Helen Bowie 30.1.1910 69, s Matthew 19.2.1907 28; (other side) (older, incised, but incisions filled up) John Donaldson 20.9.1851 61, w Jean Fotheringham 18.9.1851 58; Geo D. 31.3.1879 72, gs Geo 24.2.1882 2 m. s? Jas 25.5.1883 31 Source: Clackmannanshire Monumental Inscriptions pre 1855 If you think you will be spending a lot of time in Clackmannan MI's, this booklet is available from Scottish Genealogy Society. There are others of your surnames, but no exact matches in Alloa. scotsdragon@att.net

Hi once again Still needing help with the Daonaldson familiy and Gordon families from Alloa Clackmannan If ther is anyone on the list that has the headstone registers or burial Registers for Alloa I would be very itnerested to learn of a few families The family in question.. John / James Donaldson married Jean Fotheringham 1816 in Clackmanna and they had James 1817 died Austrlia 1863 Catherine 1819 died 1887 Richmond, Melbourne OZ Mary 1820 married WIlliam Gordon and they had one known child William Montague Humble 1840 Adelaide OZ and he married Helen Donaldson 1861 Stirling 9 children John Donaldson 1823 George 1827 Peter Brothestone Donaldson 1828 Jean / Jane Donaldson 1831 John Donaldson 1839 All the children born Alloa or births registered there at least Mary Donaldson born 1820 married William Gordon 1839 Adelaide Australia having one known chidl William Montague Humble GORDON he wasborn 1840 in Adelaide, the some how he and his parents returned to Scotland , but I cannot locate him and his parents in the 1861 census WIlliam jnr was located with his grandparents in the 1851 Census stating he was born Australia c1840. Young William Gordon married Helen Donaldson 1861 Stitling according to the IGI and they had 9 kids... 1..Agnes Cockburn Gordon born 1862, She muast have died as the family named thier second last daughter Agnes, born 1863 2..William Montague jnr born 1863 3..Mary Donaldson 1865, She married in Melbourne OZ 1887 to William Bartlett who was born Aberdeen they had 2 girls both born in OZ 4..George Gordon 1867 5..James Donaldson 1869 6..Hector Sharp Gordon born 1871 7..Agnes 1873 replacing the first Agnes 8..Helen 1876 All the above Gordon's were born/ registered Alloa My question is, is there anyone related to the above families or can anyone help with say,, marriages, Burials etc as I am not a member of Scotlands People. I belong to other Genelaogy sites and they do get a little expensive at times Going back another generation on the GODON line Mary Donaldson Gorn who married WIlliam Bartlett, he states on the 1901 Census he was born Aberdeen and one of Mary's daughters' is listed with William Bartlett's mother Address.. DYCE.. Aberdeenshire?? Is there another other way of tracking the above families not being a member of Scotland's People?? The IGI is only good if some person decided to upload their families or the LDS people did the imputting / endowments Sorry for being so long winded, but I am really trying to get some family here. Perhaps some one may know or cna help Thanks for anything Elaine in OZ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

Hi Kate, It's possible that if Mary had lived all her life in Alva, then many of the people there would have known her before she married, and I'm sure would have been referred locally as McLaren - even after she was married. Once upon a time it was not uncommon for widows to revert to there maiden name, but I'm not sure this was the case in 1903 - and whether Alexander was still alive then. John > >Hi I have a Mary McLaren who married Alexander France of Alva (Alexander was >born in 1815). > >Mary died 14.11.1903 and is buried in a cemetary in Alva. On the tombstone >she is referred to as Mary McLaren or France. > >Can anybody shed any light as to why she would still have her maiden name on >the tombstone and why it is 'or France'? > >If anybody has any access to death registers then I would be thankful for >any information, in fact I would be thankful for ANY information re the >'France' family of Alva. > >Thanks >Kate Patterson (nee France) >New Zealand -- John Gibson Chalmers - john@dgnscrn.demon.co.uk Homepages ... http://www.dgnscrn.demon.co.uk/ and ... http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~chalmers/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: designscreen Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.clk.general/493.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I suspect you have reached about as far back as you are going to get without visiting Scotland and researching what records are available - and even then you might be hard pressed to get anything! (Welcome to my own situation!) Marriage records from before about 1820 were not kept consistently (if at all). I'm not sure what other records are available (Mort cloth, Church acount records..) that may shed some light. Try contacting the libraty in Alloa. They may be able to point you to where to go: http://www.clacksweb.org.uk/culture/archives/ Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jackiebarrack Surnames: Harrower, Allan, Adamson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.clk.general/494/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My uncle William James Allan married isabella Adamson in 1927 in Alloa, Clachmannan. He died in 1928 and Isabella remarried John christal Harrower. Has anyone got any information on any of these people? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pat26438_1 Surnames: Michie, Patterson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.clk.general/493/mb.ashx Message Board Post: James Michie c1750 and Charlotte Patterson c1850 had the following children, all accredited to GRO. Ann/Agnes 1771 Alloa. James Bap 24 Sep 1775 Alloa James dob 14 Feb 1777 Alloa. George 21 Nov 1779 Alloa. Jean 07 Aug 1782 Alloa. Robert 14 Jul 1786 Alloa. Problem is I cannot find a marriage for James Michie and Charlotte Paterson nor any birth for either of them..have tried every whichway, nothing on IGI nor GRO, has anyone any information or can help in any way would be appreciated. E.mail adds pat26438@hotmail.com I am in Australia so very hard to access records. Thank you Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi I have a Mary McLaren who married Alexander France of Alva (Alexander was born in 1815). Mary died 14.11.1903 and is buried in a cemetary in Alva. On the tombstone she is referred to as Mary McLaren or France. Can anybody shed any light as to why she would still have her maiden name on the tombstone and why it is 'or France'? If anybody has any access to death registers then I would be thankful for any information, in fact I would be thankful for ANY information re the 'France' family of Alva. Thanks Kate Patterson (nee France) New Zealand

Hi Joan   I have three Robert McNair's on my tree   Robert McNair married Janet Murray - have no dates but probably born around 1845   Robert McNair born 1893 in Grangemouth.   Parents were William McNair and Lily Whitehead   Robert McNair born 1865 in Alloa.    Parents were William McNair and Margaret Johnston   Marjorie --- On Fri, 17/7/09, joan <joanniel@shaw.ca> wrote: From: joan <joanniel@shaw.ca> Subject: [SCT-CLACKMANNANSHIRE] Watson family To: SCT-CLACKMANNANSHIRE@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, 17 July, 2009, 1:49 AM Daniel Watson born approx 1826 married Jean McLintock Welsh Dec 10, 1848, Saint Ninians, Stirling.  Daniel died May 29, 1900 in St. Ninians.  Don't have death for Jean Watson.  He was a nail manufacturer in St. Ninians Their children were John, James, Janet, Jane, Thomas, Mary, Daniel, Catherine and Andrew. John was previously married but his wife died and he remarried my ancestor Annie Russell in 1883 in Govan, Lanark. According to the 1901 census there were living at 2 Picardy Place, Denny Parish, Stirlingshire. Annie died in 1913 in Bonnybridge, Stirling. - don't have a death for John Watson. Robert Watson married Mary Ann Laurie Janet Watson may have married Robert McNair. Jane Watson may have married a Robert Reid all of St. Ninians. If anyone has any of these names in their family tree, I would love to hear from them. Thanks Joan B.C. Canada ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-CLACKMANNANSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Marjorie I have no information on Robert McNair yet. Just know that he married Janet Watson probably around 1891. It is possible it could the Robert McNair born in Alloa in 1865 as Janet was born 1857 in St. Ninians which is very close to Alloa. Have to find their marriage first and then I will be able to tell you his parents. Joan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-CLACKMANNANSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-CLACKMANNANSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Daniel Watson born approx 1826 married Jean McLintock Welsh Dec 10, 1848, Saint Ninians, Stirling. Daniel died May 29, 1900 in St. Ninians. Don't have death for Jean Watson. He was a nail manufacturer in St. Ninians Their children were John, James, Janet, Jane, Thomas, Mary, Daniel, Catherine and Andrew. John was previously married but his wife died and he remarried my ancestor Annie Russell in 1883 in Govan, Lanark. According to the 1901 census there were living at 2 Picardy Place, Denny Parish, Stirlingshire. Annie died in 1913 in Bonnybridge, Stirling. - don't have a death for John Watson. Robert Watson married Mary Ann Laurie Janet Watson may have married Robert McNair. Jane Watson may have married a Robert Reid all of St. Ninians. If anyone has any of these names in their family tree, I would love to hear from them. Thanks Joan B.C. Canada

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ruthhay2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.clk.general/492.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Beverley, If you contact the Alloa Library am sure they would be able to help you with mail order if you wanted, Norman Doveys book was £8 and Brian A Parks book was £3. if they cant help let me know and we can take it from there.Best wishes Ruth Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BeverleyBeaumont Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.clk.general/492.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you very much, I will try and get a look at these, or even get hold of copies. Beverley Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BeverleyBeaumont Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.clk.general/492.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: That is very kind of you, I look forward to hearing about any information you may find. Thanks Beverley Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ruthhay2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.clk.general/492.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, i might be able to help, i live in Alloa and visit the local library regularly, they have local publications from local historians not only about the mining and railways but also about the mills, i'll have a look for you the next time im in and see if i can find out anything for you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: quigs1554 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.clk.general/124.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: How about living relatives in the U.S.? I am a descendent of his daughter Grace. I have traced our family back to 1757 and am looking to fill in many holes. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: amcgregor1947 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.clk.general/489.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks, Christine. I already have the information you found. Unfortunately, Charlotte Scotland appears in the 1841 census aged 28, giving a birth year of 1813. That lines up approximately with her death certificate from 1886 showing her aged 71, giving 1815 as her birth. These tend to suggest that the Charlotte born in Glasgow in 1805 is not the right one. Also, there were dozens of "Scotlands" in Clackmannan at the time, which suggests Glasgow is also wrong. Thanks again anyway, regards Allan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rye470 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.clk.general/489.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, Just noticed your message and did a little detective work as I have all of these names in my own tree. You may already have discovered these yourself but this is what I found. Charlotte died 22 March 1886. Neither parents are noted as the death was registered by her son in law, William McCulloch. He would not necessarily have known her parents names, but he did seem to know that her father had been a "sailor". Her death certificate states that Charlotte was 71 years at the time of her death, making her virth year 1805. A search on OPR's shows only one Charlotte Scotland born anywhere near that time. Parents are noted as Thomas Scotland and Margaret Clerk. A quick look at the FamilySearch site shows at least three children born to Thomas and Margaret. Isobel 1786 Margaret 1791 Charlotte 1805. The large gaps between the births would indicate that there are missing children somewhere. Forgot to mention that Thomas and Margaret were married in Glasgow and all the girls were born there. Hope this has been of some help to you. Regards, Christine. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I know there were several woollen mills in the Clackmann Ochil Hills area at Alva and Tillicoultry, but think they are all now gone or redeveloped. There is a Mill cente at Stirling and also Alva but they are tourist attractions, however they should have some historical information and if you do a google search they should pop up. Alternatively contact one of the links at the botom of this site and see if they can help[There is a link to a contact form ] http://www.clacksweb.org.uk/culture/archives/ There is also a book on the Hillfoot mills by Brian Park, but can't remember what it was called but again a Google search should find it. There was also Donaldson Mill and Paton & Baldwins[Kilncraigs] at Alloa My mother and an aunt worked at the Alloa ones when they were young. and several ancestors all had work in the mills. Unfortunately there is not as much about these mills and workers as there is about mining in the area. Elizabeth Jean Melbourne Australia ResearchingSNADDON/PATERSON/HUNTER/HALL > > Author: BeverleyBeaumont > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.clk.general/492/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > 1871 census, my gt.gt. grandfather John Lochhead was a woollen shirt > manufacturer employing 80 men and 30 women. > How can I find details of his workplace? > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-CLACKMANNANSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >