Hi : I have posted to this List , to see if anyone has knowledge of my wifes ancestry, or any connections - the first part is a bit IFFY! however ... Donald Kirk m. 20 Feb 1783 Wick...a.. Catherine Sutherland... daugh: + Janet Kirk b. 7 Mar 1784 (Wick)..she, married, William Craig on 26 Apr 1809 (Wick) Children : all born in Wick. Isobel Craig b. 6 Apr 1810 George Craig b. 16 Feb1812 + Janet Criag b. 31 Aug 1813 Elizabeth Craig b. 20 Mar 1815 William Craig b. 20 Mar 1821 James Craig b. 20 Jan 1827 ========================= Janet marr: 3 Apr 1841 (Wick )..John Cook Children : all born Wick.. Caroline Cook b. 22 Jul 1841 Christine Cook b. 22 Jul 1842 Janet Cook b. 17 Mar 1847 + John Cook b. 20 Jan 1849 Donald Cook b. 18 Jul 1851 ========================= John Cook married Alexkina Dunnet . 23 Sep 1881 ( Wick)..they were my wifes Grt Grandparents. ========================= I believe that Caroline married a William Patterson, 14 May 1869 in Wick, but have been unable to find them with family on the IGI, and wonder if someone could do a look up for them on the 1881 Census. ============================= I am sure that I have found Christina marrying, 19 Feb 1875 (Wick) a Donald Craig, some of the information on this marriage matches with info, on the transcription I have in regards to John Cook, so I am confident it is accurate, however I can't find that couple with family on the IGI, and wonder if someone could try to find them on 1881 census. ============== Ant help will be much appreciated, as I don't have 1881 census for that region. Regards Stewart Campbell

Could SKS do a look up for me on who were the parents of William Lyall & Esther Tait married on 30/12/1836 at Dunnet or supply the ages of William & Esther at the time of their marriage. regards Allan Lyall from New Zealand

Even though the following is for German genealogy it made me wonder if this also happened in Scotland. This may account for names of the later children of large families. Q. When my ancestors from Germany (1700-1850) were named, they took their first names and many times their middle names from their godparents. Were these persons related to the parents? Were they just friends from the neighbourhood or the church? Or were they business friends of the father? Is there any rule that was used when naming the children after the godparents? A: Every one of the possibilities you mention does occur within German naming. German Christian names were given at baptism (christening or Taufe) at least sometimes according to all of the patterns you mention. Godfather and godmother respectively are called Taufzeuge/Taufzeugin (literally, baptismal witnesses or sponsors), Pate/Patin, Göttel/Götin, or one of a host of regional variants. Most often the child's grandparents or aunts and uncles were honoured by bestowing their name(s) on the child. In some regions, such as near the Dutch border, there was sometimes a local custom of naming the first male child for the father's father or the first female for the mother's mother, with other relatives in a particular order, but this varied by region and was by no means universal. Another custom is to name the child for a deceased ancestor. If there were two or three godparents, those two or three names were generally but not always used in the naming of the child. Cousins also served as godparents. Sometimes neighbours were chosen as godparents. Fellow members of the same craft may also have been chosen. The best rule is to look at the customs that prevailed in the local church and the local area in the time period of your ancestors' baptisms. Were there generally one name or several names derived from the godparents? Do the names generally come from grandparents? (Keep in mind that a deceased grandparent may be the source of a name.) Do the godparents have the same surname as the child's father or mother? (A sister may have married, so the surname is not obvious unless maiden names are mentioned.) Or does there seem to be a pattern of sponsoring a child within a group of millers, tailors or glassmakers? If you do that kind of a survey of the records, you will not only uncover relationships, but also get more closely acquainted with the particular village. Christine Clement Te Puke New Zealand cmclement@clear.net.nz

Hello everyone: For anyone searching the names SHEARER, LYALL, NICHOLSON and TRAILL, here is a site in Canada to check out. It is part of the Montreal Genweb site managed by Patty Brown who is the ggggrandaughter of James SHEARER. <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~qcmtl-w/ShearerJames.html"> http://www.rootsweb.com/~qcmtl-w/ShearerJames.html</A> Helen Turner

Can anyone please help. Listed in the above census is George Sinclair age 69. wife Johan 45, stepdaughters Atta Dunnet 18 & Jessie Dunnet 12, also George & Johans 2 sons. It is the Stepdaughters I seek information on. Thank you in advance. Heather Third Cromwell NZ

Here are some transcriptions from a few marriage records. Parish of Wick Henry SINCLAIR & Christian COGLE: 'January 28, 1721 This day Henry Sinclair & Christian Cogle gave up your names in order to marriage, living both in (this) parish. Surety for man David Cogle in (?) and for woman, William Cogle in (?)' Robert CRAICK & Isobell CORMACK: 'February 10, 1721 This day Robert Craick in (?) & Isobell Cormack gave up your names in order to marriage. Surety for man Donald Craick for woman Donald Cormack' George MOWAT & Isabelle MOWAT: 'April 29, 1721, This day George Mowat in Koipe? & Isabell Mowat in the parish of (?) gave up your names in order to marriage. Surety for man (nothing more written on record) Alexander LAMB & Katherine MCKAIN: 'June 9th, 1721. This day Alexander Lamb, shoemaker in Wick & Katherine McKain daughter to John McKain in Ackngile gave up their names in order to marriage, Surety for ye man Michael Lamb his father & John McKain for his daughter.' John RAYRIE & Jean BRUCE: 'June 10 1721. This day John Rayrie in Bilptser & Jean Bruce gave up their names in order to marriage. Surety for the man Donald Ryrie & David Budge up for ye woman.' George OALL & Elspeth MANSONE. 'June 21 1721. This day George Oall in (?maybe Watten) & Elsepth Mansone in (?) gave up ye names in order to marriage. Surety for the man Alexander Brymner in (? maybe Watten) & John Mansone in (?) for the woman.' Parish of Watten Donald MORGAN & Margaret MACKIVER: 'Donald Morgan in parish of Halkirk and Margaret Mackiver in this parish were contracted in order to marriage & after ordinary proclamation and an no objection offered their marriage was solemnized March the third 1778.' James CAMPBELL and Margaret SUTHERLAND: 'James Campbell and Margaret Sutherland were contracted in order to Marriage and after ordinary proclamation and no objections offered, their Marriage was solemnized April 7th 1778' William SUTHERLAND & Janet SWANSON. 'William Sutherland in the Parish of Halkirk and Janet Swanson in this parish were contracted in order to Marriage and after ordinary proclamation and no objections offered, their marriage was solemnized May 22, 1778' William GRAY & Margaret MCLEOD: 'William Gray and Margaret McLeod in (?) were contracted in order to marriage and after ordinary proclamation an no objections offered, their marriage was solemnized June 25th 1778' John RYRIE & Elizabeth MCADIE: 'John Ryrie in Auchingale and Elizabeth McAdie in (?) were contracted in order to marriage and after ordinary proclamation and no objections offered their marriage was solemnized July 15th, 1778' Peter ROBERTSON and Elspet MANSON: 'Peter Robertson and Elspet Manson both in parish were contracted in order to marriage and after ordinary proclamation and no objection offered their marriage was solemnized June 29th 1778' John SUTHERLAND and Elspate COGIL, 'John Sutherland in the Parish of Canisbay and Elspate Cogil in this Parish were contracted in order to marriage and after ordinary proclamation and no objection offered their marriage was solemnized August 12th 1778' Lynn M. Polgar Researching Surnames: RYRIE, SWANSON, MCADIE, DUNNET, ROSIE, CORNER, HENDERSON, BRUCE, TAIT, CHISHOLM, BROWN, CLARK

Noticed something when looking up a McAdie ancestor. When I did a look up on Scots Origins for a birth record where the mother was Elizabeth McAdie, the mother's last name only had ADIE, the MC was part of mother's first name. After noticing this on several records I then tried to find the marriage record using the female's last name of ADIE and found her first name included the MC portion of last name. I was also able to locate her birth record using ADIE as last name. Then found the same birth record listed on IGI under ADIE. I have sent emails to both LDS and Scots Origins notifying them of the occurrences that I found. Hope this helps someone else knock down a brick wall by finding records using this method! Lynn M. Polgar Researching Surnames: RYRIE, SWANSON, MCADIE, DUNNET, ROSIE, CORNER, HENDERSON, BRUCE, TAIT, CHISHOLM, BROWN, CLARK ----- Original Message ----- From: lpolgar@comcast.net To: SCT-CAITHNESS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 7:37 AM Subject: MCADIE MI Lookup I am trying to finding MI for John Ryrie, born abt 1759 Watten and his wife, Elizabeth McAdie, born abt 1755 Watten. They were married 1778, Watten. Not very much to go on, but any help greatly appreciated! Lynn M. Polgar Researching Surnames: RYRIE, SWANSON, DUNNET, ROSIE, CORNER, HENDERSON, BRUCE, TAIT, CHISHOLM, BROWN, CLARK

Hi looking for any info on People listed below. JOHN SUTHERLAND b.1805-1807 Burray ,Died 1883 Burray. Married. JANNET MANSON b.1807-1811 Canisbay, died 1871-1881. Children . DANIEL SUTHERLAND no info. SINCLAIR SUTHERLAND (female) b. 1841-1842 ,died 1866 Burray. ALEXANDER SUTHERLAND b.1845-1846 Firth ,died 1870 Burray. WILLIAM SUTHERLAND b.1851-1852, died 1868 Burray. ELIZABETH (Betsy) SUTHERLAND ,b 1832-33 Burray, Married David SPENCE , Do have 1881 census on John and Betsy.at MOSSHOUSE have have 1861 1871 on JOHN AND JANNET living at MOSSHOUSE Burray. thank you Janette

Lyn, hope the following info is of interest: Caithness Monumental Inscriptions Vol 1, Section 5, Olrig, has an entry No.215: James Ryrie Farmer Glenburnie, died Kirk Bower 8.12.1932 age 94, wife Charlotte Swanson 31.7.1902 age 63, sons James 26.8.1879 age 15, Alexander died San Francisco USA 1.12.1900 age 35, George died Old Kilpatrick 9.10.1924 age 51; James Ryrie Farmer Claredon 3.4.1851 age 57, wife Elizabeth Dunnet 24.2.1888 age 87, son John 24.11.1831 age 13 months. Regards John Page

I would appreciate any information on Alexander Jackson and Katherine Bain, married at Olrig 17 Dec 1767 - or their descendants. I believe the family later lived at Thurso. With thanks Mike -- Michael Lang 306 Delaware Avenue Burlington, ON, CA , L7R 3B2

Try this site : http://www.frayston.demon.co.uk/genuki/cai/parishes/ -----Original Message----- From: Carla Salveta [mailto:casalveta@ntlworld.com] Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 6:48 AM To: SCT-CAITHNESS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Which Parish? Hi, I'm new to searching in this part of the world. I'm looking for the birth in John O'Groats of a William Bremner around 1909 but I'm not sure which parish this would come under. Can anyone help or point me in the direction of a source. Thank you Carla

In a message dated 04/04/02 22:24:03 GMT Daylight Time, casalveta@ntlworld.com writes: > <A HREF="mailto:casalveta@ntlworld.com">casalveta@ntlworld.com</A> > To:<A HREF="mailto:SCT-CAITHNESS-L@rootsweb.com">SCT-CAITHNESS-L@rootsweb.com</A> > John O'Groats is in Canisbay parish. Col frae Crieff

Hi, I'm new to searching in this part of the world. I'm looking for the birth in John O'Groats of a William Bremner around 1909 but I'm not sure which parish this would come under. Can anyone help or point me in the direction of a source. Thank you Carla

I'm looking for an MI for Elizabeth Dunnet, married to James Ryrie. Elizabeth born about 1800 in Caithness. She was still living in 1881. Thanks! Lynn M. Polgar Researching Surnames: RYRIE, SWANSON, DUNNET, ROSIE, CORNER, HENDERSON, BRUCE, TAIT, CHISHOLM, BROWN, CLARK

Hi, I'm seeking information on Janet Kinnaird b.1799-1813. She married Alexander Dunnet in Aberdeen 11 Aug. 1829. A Janet Dunnet was born to an Alexander Dunnet & Janet Kinnaird 23 July 1831, Wick. In the 1851 Drainie Census for Morayshire there is an Elizabeth Dunnett listed as the the granddaughter of William Kinnaird & Janet Couper, age 16. A possible sibling of Janet Dunnet's? Elizabeth appears in the 1861 Drainie Census but not in the 1871. The Elgin Registrar's Office found a death registered in Wick for an Elizabeth Dunnet in 1874, age 40. She would be about the right age as William Kinnaird's Dunnet granddaughter. I believe these people to be a family group but haven't been able to confirm it yet. Can someone out there help me connect the dots? Does anyone want to claim knowledge of them? Thanks in advance. Lisa in Bremerton, WA, USA

Lynn, I think this is the family, but I could find nothing in the MI for Caithness for them, their son Donald has an entry listed below. regards JP Donald RYRIE Sex: M Event(s): Christening: 2 Jul 1779 Watten, Caithness, Scotland Parents: Father: John RYRIE Mother: Elizabeth MC ADDIE Source Information: Batch number: Dates Source Call No. Type Printout C110422 1714-1854 0990557 Film 6902343 Donald RYRIE Sex: M Event(s): Birth: 2 Jul 1779 Scouhill, Watten, Caithness, Scotland Parents: Father: John RYRIE Mother: Elizabeth MCADDIE Source Information: Film Number: 457628 Film Number: 452068 Page Number: Page Number: 98 Reference Number: Reference Number: 57332 Donald RIRIE Sex: U Event(s): Birth: 2 Jul 1797 Grayston, Caithness, Scotland Parents: Father: John RIRIE Mother: Elizabeth MCADDIE RIRIE Source Information: Film Number: 178089 Page Number: 136 Reference Number: Caithness Monumental Inscriptions: Vol 1, Section 1, Wick Old, Page 31, Entry 471: Donald Ryrie farmer Howe 12.3.1854 age 85, wife Jennet Craig 8.4.1834, erected by son Francis, merchant, Wick. -----Original Message----- From: lpolgar@comcast.net [mailto:lpolgar@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 9:07 PM To: SCT-CAITHNESS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: MCADIE MI Lookup I am trying to finding MI for John Ryrie, born abt 1759 Watten and his wife, Elizabeth McAdie, born abt 1755 Watten. They were married 1778, Watten. Not very much to go on, but any help greatly appreciated! Lynn M. Polgar Researching Surnames: RYRIE, SWANSON, DUNNET, ROSIE, CORNER, HENDERSON, BRUCE, TAIT, CHISHOLM, BROWN, CLARK

Hi Jayne You wouldn't have an MI entry for Ann BANKS ms DOULL, widow of John BANKS, fisherman? Ann died 20 Jun 1857, Back Bridge Street, Wick aged 51 years. She was born 14 Apr 1806 and christened 25 Jul 1806 at Thurso, daughter of Peter DOULL and Jane DOULL ms MOWAT. Thanks Alastair Banks Australian Capital Territory ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jayne Ward" <jayne99ca@yahoo.ca> To: <SCT-CAITHNESS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:44 PM Subject: MI look ups > Julie: Are you needing look ups in the monumental > inscription books? I don't know the codes of what you > are looking for, but I do have the books. Let me know > if I can help. On list or off. Your choice. > Jayne > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Find, Connect, Date! http://personals.yahoo.ca >

I am trying to finding MI for John Ryrie, born abt 1759 Watten and his wife, Elizabeth McAdie, born abt 1755 Watten. They were married 1778, Watten. Not very much to go on, but any help greatly appreciated! Lynn M. Polgar Researching Surnames: RYRIE, SWANSON, DUNNET, ROSIE, CORNER, HENDERSON, BRUCE, TAIT, CHISHOLM, BROWN, CLARK

Julie: Are you needing look ups in the monumental inscription books? I don't know the codes of what you are looking for, but I do have the books. Let me know if I can help. On list or off. Your choice. Jayne ______________________________________________________________________ Find, Connect, Date! http://personals.yahoo.ca

Hi can anyone help. I am lookimg for the Ritchie's. I have the following cemetery notes. CE8-72 K12-127 TH7-75 W13-618,1080 Could someone please help with these MI's please. many thanks in advance, Julie