Hello Listers, Reading a film "Caithnes Inhibitions" circa 1700's. Amongst the "Notables" suing each other was a list of Wick inhabitants in rent arrears which may be of interest to some. Possibly putting an occupation to a name. 12 Feb 1717 owing 10pounds Scots to William Calder. All in Wick. William Anderson, merchant John Coghill, shoemaker William Henderson, shoemaker ?Michael Lamb, seaman James Williamson, tailor George Miller, shoemaker David Lyall, cooper John Sutherland, weaver James Harper, wright Alexander Lamb, shoemaker William Abernethie, Inndweller Donald Sutherland, merchant. Donald Sutherland is often mentioned, not the others. Mark, the "legal beagle" a question. Reading "the horn being blown or sounded three times." Does this refer to why or about why "Hornings" is also used? These writs or whatever also alway mention previous Hornings. Barbara Stirling

I have the first 2 pages of the Will of the following person, registered at Edinburgh. It was included by error in a Will I purchased and downloaded from Scottish Documents. If anyone is interested I will forward the scanned image to them. Please contact me off-List. Brief details: Ann Kedzlie, dau of deceased William Kedzlie, both in Portobello Ann died 15 July 1864 at Bankhead Unless specifically stated otherwise in this message, there is no intentional attachment on this e-mail transmission. Ken Harrison North Vancouver, Canada mcharrison@compuserve.com

Hi Laurie, I've had a quick look in the 1891 census index for you (its the latest I have to hand at the moment), and there is a RICE family in the area then. From first impressions it looks like James & Margaret both aged 31 with children James aged ?months and Duncan aged 2. They're in Wick, district 043, enumeration district 008, pages 33 & 34. If Cecil was in his twenties during the war he may well have been a member of the family. I would suggest looking at the 1891 census and perhaps the 1901 census for the same area, this may give you Cecil on the 1901 with an approx year to sart looking for births, marriage etc. Good luck, sounds intriguing! Regards Sara Donaldson Genealogical researcher in Caithness www.members.aol.com/sjdancestry/home.htm

I am researching Ryrie family from Caithness. The earliest connection I have is John Ryrie, christened May 1693 married to Jean Bruce. Trying to locate connections to John Ryrie, born about 1759, married to Margaret Henderson. Thanks for any assistance. Lynn M. Polgar Researching Surnames: RYRIE, SWANSON, MCADIE, DUNNET, ROSIE, CORNER, HENDERSON, BRUCE, TAIT, CHISHOLM, BROWN, CLARK

My ggrandfather (in his 30s ca. WWI) named his fifth child's middle names for a man named Cecil RICE. Family lore has it that this man saved my ggrandfather's life, but even if he didn't, i'd like to know whether he came from Caithness. My ggrandfather would have had contact with other fishermen during the herring runs or might have served with him during WWI on the H.M.S. Imperieuse. The former seems more likely since the namesake was born very shortly after the war's beginning. Namaste, Laurie (IBSSG, RAOGK Volunteer)

A public "thank you" to James Irvine, Robert Struthers, Sally, Lois Masters and David Braidwood, as well as others who responded to the various Lists. I have checked the "Research Tools" section at Scottish Documents and have found it very useful. I think it answered all my questions. I recommend that anyone visiting the site have a close look first at this section. Unless specifically stated otherwise in this message, there is no intentional attachment on this e-mail transmission. Ken Harrison North Vancouver, Canada mcharrison@compuserve.com

Hello - **smile** I'm trying to find info on the following Budge family and hope someone here can help me out. John Budge Sr. b. late 1831 early 1832 in Thurso m. Dec 16, 1857 in Wick (Burgh) to Jane Calder Household is listed on the 1881 Census of Wick Their son John Jr married Helen Mowat Jun 03, 1886 in Thurso. Their son John William b. July 24, 1886 is my grandfather-in-law. John Jr. immigrated to Canada (Quebec) sometime after 1901. Thanks so much! T Budge

As a followup to my query a few days ago, I have now found that some of the Wills at this site http://www.scottishdocuments.com/content/default.asp are now available to download. The cost is 5 GBP, regardless of the length of the document. I have successfully downloaded one Will, and thought it would be useful to have a discussion on the List. I (naively) thought that I would get a copy of my GGgfather's actual Will. What I received was a photocopy of the pages in the Register of Wills. It does give some interesting information about the value of his Estate, residence address, etc, but it does NOT provide even a transcript of the text of his actual Will ("I bequeath my Harris Tweed hunting jacket to my eldest son, Robert "..... etc). When I downloaded the document, I discovered that it had been incorrectly indexed, omitting the first two pages, and giving me an extra two pages at the end pertaining to someone else. I wrote to Scottish Documents about this and by return e-mail they sent me the missing pages. This all worked well, and I am pleased with the service. Can someone who is familiar with these documents give the List an explanation of the nature of the documents? Mine says that on (date) "the following Inventory of the personal Estate of the deceased (name) and Deed relative to the disposal thereof were presented" (by the lawyer). It goes on to list the "Inventory of the personal Estate of the late .... , who died at .... on the (date). Given up for Confirmation by Mrs. (name) his widow, at present residing in Glasgow, Executrix nominate and Universal Legatory of the said deceased under the last Will and Testament executed by him in her favour dated ........" The document then contains an oath by the Executrix that the inventory is complete and that she knows of no other property, etc, etc., and then after the signatures says: "For Deed see Testamentary Record Volume C2 page ....". Can some Lister explain whether the actual Will (or a copy of it) would be available somewhere? And what the "Deed" referred to above would be and where it would be found?

Ken et al: I'm not sure if ya'll have seen this, but, there iS a Scottish Wills database at "http://www.scottishdocuments.com/content/shop/displayadresults.asp". Some can be ordered online @ £5 each. Bill Caddell SCT-Inverness Listowner bcaddell@hcnews.com > > Subject: > > Scottish Documents > From: > > KenHarrison11@cs.com > Date: > > Wed, 3 Jul 2002 18:25:43 EDT > To: > > SCT-CAITHNESS-L@rootsweb.com > > > Like many others, I'm sure, I am "patiently" awaiting the time when we can > order copies of Wills from this site. Although I registered with them at > least 3 months ago to receive information about progress on the project, I > (like Manuel) "know nothing"..... > > Has anyone else received an update from them? > > Unless specifically stated otherwise in this message, there is no intentional > attachment on this e-mail transmission. > > Ken Harrison > North Vancouver, Canada > mcharrison@compuserve.com > HARRISON Yorkshire, Staffordshire, London (Highgate/Hampstead) > POTCHIT Yorkshire > FISHER London (Highgate/Hampstead) > GRIFFIN Staffordshire > STANLEY Staffordshire > SMELLIE Lanark, Orkney, Glasgow, Tasmania > STIRRAT Ayrshire & Glasgow > BAIN Caithness > MILLER Caithness, Swaziland > SPENCE Orkney > TRAILL Orkney > SELKRIG Lanark > WICKETSHAW Lanark > MORRISON Perthshire, Islay, Dumbarton, Glasgow, Australia (Vic) > BAIRD Renfrew > HAM Australia (Vic) > THOMPSON Suffolk > AGGUS Suffolk > BRIGHTWELL Suffolk > LAWSON Clackmannan > McNABB Islay > MURRAY Dumfries, Renfrew > GILLESPIE Dumfries > HENDERSON Dumfries > TICKET (TAKET) Dumfries > CALDWELL Tyrone, Renfrew > GRAHAM Tyrone, Ontario > Genealogists never die ... they just lose their census. >

Hi! I am researching my ancestors from Wick - Thomas and Margaret Fletcher and their children. Both Thomas and Margaret were born in Edinburgh but lived in Wick from about 1820 until their deaths in 1873. If anyone is researching these names I would love to hear from you. Thanking you. Kate Brial

Like many others, I'm sure, I am "patiently" awaiting the time when we can order copies of Wills from this site. Although I registered with them at least 3 months ago to receive information about progress on the project, I (like Manuel) "know nothing"..... Has anyone else received an update from them? Unless specifically stated otherwise in this message, there is no intentional attachment on this e-mail transmission. Ken Harrison North Vancouver, Canada mcharrison@compuserve.com HARRISON Yorkshire, Staffordshire, London (Highgate/Hampstead) POTCHIT Yorkshire FISHER London (Highgate/Hampstead) GRIFFIN Staffordshire STANLEY Staffordshire SMELLIE Lanark, Orkney, Glasgow, Tasmania STIRRAT Ayrshire & Glasgow BAIN Caithness MILLER Caithness, Swaziland SPENCE Orkney TRAILL Orkney SELKRIG Lanark WICKETSHAW Lanark MORRISON Perthshire, Islay, Dumbarton, Glasgow, Australia (Vic) BAIRD Renfrew HAM Australia (Vic) THOMPSON Suffolk AGGUS Suffolk BRIGHTWELL Suffolk LAWSON Clackmannan McNABB Islay MURRAY Dumfries, Renfrew GILLESPIE Dumfries HENDERSON Dumfries TICKET (TAKET) Dumfries CALDWELL Tyrone, Renfrew GRAHAM Tyrone, Ontario Genealogists never die ... they just lose their census.

Hi Laura (Laurie) I am looking for MURRAYs from Pultnytown. My gggGrandfather Donald MURRAY was married in Wick in 1836 to Sophia POLSON. William MURRAY was cautioner for her, he was the Innkeeper of the Commercial Inn and Hotel, Bridge Street, Wick. I don't know any more about the MURRAYs or the connection between the two of them. Maybe we are connected. Steve Spring Waiuku New Zealand ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laura Williscraft" <laura.williscraft@sympatico.ca> To: <SCT-CAITHNESS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 1:20 PM Subject: Some of my Caithness Surnames > Hello All: > i have a whole other line which at this moment is stalled with TAYLOR and > mysterious references to RYRIE and MURRAY. > Namaste, > Laurie (IBSSG, RAOGK Volunteer) > southwestern Ontario, Canada > >

Hello Listmembers, I am looking for any information about John DAVIDSON, a master tailor and his wife Catherine McKAY, the parents of my g.g.grandmother, Elizabeth WARES (nee DAVIDSON) who died in Kinnard Street, Pulteneytown, Wick in 1885, aged about 71. also John SUTHERLAND, a ploughman, and his wife Janet BAIN, the parents of my g.g.grandmother, Elizabeth AULD (nee SUTHERLAND) who died in Janetstown in 1902 aged about 85. Any information would be gratefully received.

--=======465E7EAF======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-7AAA5F03; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Unfortunately, there is no Thomas SPENCE in Wick or any part of Caithness in the 1881 census... Sorry about that... Plenty in other areas though - do you know his wife's name? Margaret >Subject: SPENCE - Pulteney Town >Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-7AAA5F03; charset=US-ASCII >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Anne, >Since he said in 1896 that he was domiciled in Pulteneytown, you might also >find him there in the 1891 and/or 1901 censuses. I would start there before >the 1861. And since the 1881 is so accessible and searchable, it would also >be worth a check. I don't have a copy, but perhaps some kind soul on the >List could have a look in the 1881 CD for you right now (hint, hint, nudge, >nudge). > >In a message dated 28/6/02 7:08:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >SCT-CAITHNESS-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > ><< Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 04:34:01 +1000 > From: "Alastair Duncan Banks" <alastair_banks@optusnet.com.au> > To: SCT-CAITHNESS-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <000e01c21e09$3639ece0$316a31d2@oemcomputer> > Subject: Re: SPENCE - Pulteney Town > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Anne > > Pulteneytown is part of Wick in Caithness. > > If he was born there in 1856, you might find him in the 1861 Census for the > Parish of Wick. > > Alastair > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "thistledown" <thistledown76@btinternet.com> > To: <SCT-CAITHNESS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 11:50 PM > Subject: SPENCE - Pulteney Town > > > > New to this list and searching for my GG Grandfather Thomas Spence who has > > stated on his daughter's 1896 Forfarshire birth certificate that his > > domicile was Pulteney Town and that his occupation was a Quarry Labourer. > > Any help or advice on how to find any information on this Thomas Spence or > > any of his relatives would be greatly appreciated. > > This Thomas Spence was, unfortunately for anyone trying to trace him, a > > traveller and although I have discovered everything about the last eight > > years of his life (1925-1933), his lifestyle is causing great difficulty > in > > discovering anything about his earlier years. My belief is that he was > born > > about 1856 and my hope is, that the information he has given on my > > Grandmother's birth certificate was at last fact rather than fiction and > > that Pulteney Town or somewhere in Caithness is actually where he may have > > been born! > > Any one out there who can help me or point me in the right direction? > > Anne > > (Desperate) >> --=======465E7EAF======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-7AAA5F03 Content-Disposition: inline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.372 / Virus Database: 207 - Release Date: 20/06/02 --=======465E7EAF=======--

Hello All: Swealtering day here in southwestern Ontario, Canada so i thought i'd do something productive and list some of my surnames. My major line is OAG 1700s to present, largely of Pulteneytown, Wick and migrating to Canada, Oz and N.Z. i'd love to hear from any and all with this name in their tree. i have a large number of BREMNERs: My gggrandmother's parents were both BREMNERs of Caithness: Alexander BREMNER and Elizabeth BREMNER. (i don't have their dates but my gggrandmother died ca. WWI.) Like everyone else i have SINCLAIRs, TAYLORs, McKAY/MACKAY, GUNN, BAIN, RYRIE, FORBES, CAMPBELL and the ubiquitous SUTHERLAND. i have a whole other line which at this moment is stalled with TAYLOR and mysterious references to RYRIE and MURRAY. Namaste, Laurie (IBSSG, RAOGK Volunteer) southwestern Ontario, Canada

Anne, Since he said in 1896 that he was domiciled in Pulteneytown, you might also find him there in the 1891 and/or 1901 censuses. I would start there before the 1861. And since the 1881 is so accessible and searchable, it would also be worth a check. I don't have a copy, but perhaps some kind soul on the List could have a look in the 1881 CD for you right now (hint, hint, nudge, nudge). In a message dated 28/6/02 7:08:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, SCT-CAITHNESS-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 04:34:01 +1000 From: "Alastair Duncan Banks" <alastair_banks@optusnet.com.au> To: SCT-CAITHNESS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <000e01c21e09$3639ece0$316a31d2@oemcomputer> Subject: Re: SPENCE - Pulteney Town Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anne Pulteneytown is part of Wick in Caithness. If he was born there in 1856, you might find him in the 1861 Census for the Parish of Wick. Alastair ----- Original Message ----- From: "thistledown" <thistledown76@btinternet.com> To: <SCT-CAITHNESS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 11:50 PM Subject: SPENCE - Pulteney Town > New to this list and searching for my GG Grandfather Thomas Spence who has > stated on his daughter's 1896 Forfarshire birth certificate that his > domicile was Pulteney Town and that his occupation was a Quarry Labourer. > Any help or advice on how to find any information on this Thomas Spence or > any of his relatives would be greatly appreciated. > This Thomas Spence was, unfortunately for anyone trying to trace him, a > traveller and although I have discovered everything about the last eight > years of his life (1925-1933), his lifestyle is causing great difficulty in > discovering anything about his earlier years. My belief is that he was born > about 1856 and my hope is, that the information he has given on my > Grandmother's birth certificate was at last fact rather than fiction and > that Pulteney Town or somewhere in Caithness is actually where he may have > been born! > Any one out there who can help me or point me in the right direction? > Anne > (Desperate) >> Unless specifically stated otherwise in this message, there is no intentional attachment on this e-mail transmission. Ken Harrison North Vancouver, Canada mcharrison@compuserve.com HARRISON Yorkshire, Staffordshire, London (Highgate/Hampstead) POTCHIT Yorkshire FISHER London (Highgate/Hampstead) GRIFFIN Staffordshire STANLEY Staffordshire SMELLIE Lanark, Orkney, Glasgow, Tasmania STIRRAT Ayrshire & Glasgow BAIN Caithness MILLER Caithness, Swaziland SPENCE Orkney TRAILL Orkney SELKRIG Lanark WICKETSHAW Lanark MORRISON Perthshire, Islay, Dumbarton, Glasgow, Australia (Vic) BAIRD Renfrew HAM Australia (Vic) THOMPSON Suffolk AGGUS Suffolk BRIGHTWELL Suffolk LAWSON Clackmannan McNABB Islay MURRAY Dumfries, Renfrew GILLESPIE Dumfries HENDERSON Dumfries TICKET (TAKET) Dumfries CALDWELL Tyrone, Renfrew GRAHAM Tyrone, Ontario Genealogists never die ... they just lose their census.

Anne Pulteneytown is part of Wick in Caithness. If he was born there in 1856, you might find him in the 1861 Census for the Parish of Wick. Alastair ----- Original Message ----- From: "thistledown" <thistledown76@btinternet.com> To: <SCT-CAITHNESS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 11:50 PM Subject: SPENCE - Pulteney Town > New to this list and searching for my GG Grandfather Thomas Spence who has > stated on his daughter's 1896 Forfarshire birth certificate that his > domicile was Pulteney Town and that his occupation was a Quarry Labourer. > Any help or advice on how to find any information on this Thomas Spence or > any of his relatives would be greatly appreciated. > This Thomas Spence was, unfortunately for anyone trying to trace him, a > traveller and although I have discovered everything about the last eight > years of his life (1925-1933), his lifestyle is causing great difficulty in > discovering anything about his earlier years. My belief is that he was born > about 1856 and my hope is, that the information he has given on my > Grandmother's birth certificate was at last fact rather than fiction and > that Pulteney Town or somewhere in Caithness is actually where he may have > been born! > Any one out there who can help me or point me in the right direction? > Anne > (Desperate) > > > >

New to this list and searching for my GG Grandfather Thomas Spence who has stated on his daughter's 1896 Forfarshire birth certificate that his domicile was Pulteney Town and that his occupation was a Quarry Labourer. Any help or advice on how to find any information on this Thomas Spence or any of his relatives would be greatly appreciated. This Thomas Spence was, unfortunately for anyone trying to trace him, a traveller and although I have discovered everything about the last eight years of his life (1925-1933), his lifestyle is causing great difficulty in discovering anything about his earlier years. My belief is that he was born about 1856 and my hope is, that the information he has given on my Grandmother's birth certificate was at last fact rather than fiction and that Pulteney Town or somewhere in Caithness is actually where he may have been born! Any one out there who can help me or point me in the right direction? Anne (Desperate)

Hi Norma and list, I've been continuing my research into the PETRIE family in Wick, but my success has been nil! Just to bring my interests up to date, I'm searching for my G Grandmother's parents. My GGrandmother was Catherine PETRIE born about 1850 in Wick. The first record for her is the 1861 census for Wick where she is listed as a farm servant on the farm of a family named BREMNER called Barnyards. I'm told this is just south of Wick about a mile. She is listed as a cowherd, and also listed as 12 years of age, birthplace Wick. The next record is her marriage in 1872 to Andrew MOYES in Glasgow. On that certificate she lists her parents as George PETRIE, Blacksmith, and Elizabeth CAMPBELL, both deceased. Again this record would result in a birth of Catherine between 1849 and 1851. Review of the census data for Wick in 1851 there are two possible George PETRIEs. One the son of a George PETRIE and Helen MALCOLM. Both father and son are listed as shoemakers. Also there is an Irish farm laborer listed boarding at one of the houses in Wick. The other George PETRIE that is a possibility is the oldest son of Jane DALLAS and Donald PETRIE who were married in Glasgow and after the birth of their oldest son George in Glasgow, moved ?back? to Wick where their other children were born. The only record I have for George is his birth in Glasgow and the fact that he was listed on Jane DALLAS' death certificate in 1855. That document also states that she resided in Wick for 30+ years and is buried there. I just received information from a lady whose gggg Grandmother was married to a Donald PETRIE of Wick. This Donald was born 19 May 1734 and died in 1775. He married Mary SUTHERLAND on 9 Feb 1771 in Watten and they had one child, Jennett PETRIE born 7 July 1772. When Mary SUTHERLAND remarried Magnus CORMACK in 1777, George PETRIE, brother of Donald was one of the witnesses. This George PETRIE was born 11 Feb 1728. Other siblings of Donald were Christian born 15 Mar 1724, Helen born 18 Apr. 1725, Isabell born 17 Oct 1722, and Mary born 4 Apr 1731. If any of this stirs those PETRIEs looking for Caithness ancestors I would appreciate hearing from you! George Weston Suisun CA, USA

I am researching the name Mackay in Lathon Caithness early 1900s. Sinclair John Caithness 1912 to Sinclair John and Elizabeth. Any connection??? Kaye Vernon Beacon Hill Australia go to the genealogy site at http://www.bananatv.com