Hi All, Has anyone got any information about Christain SUTHERLAND, do John SUTHERLAND and Isabell Hendrie. Christain was born on the 19th September 1736 in Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland and married William LARNACH abt 1753 somewhere in the Caithness area. They had one daughter, Hendrate LARNACH b abt 1753 (Chr 19 October 1753) in Watten. I presume that Christain must have died before 1756 when William married Merran MANSON. Does anyone know what happened to Hendrate LARNACH also. Kind Regards, Marilyn Parker WHITIANGA NZ

Hi All, I am hoping that someone has Merran (Mirran) MANSON daughter of Rhoderick and Jannet MANSON on their family tree. Merran married William LARNACH in Watten on the 18th December 1756. William was born about 1732 (chr 9 July 1732 in Wick) to William LARNACH and Elspet JOHNSTONE. I have seen a listing for the MANSON family on Ancestry Com and it states that Merran was born in Bower abt 1736. They had five children, William b abt 1767 (chr 10 May 1767) in Bower, Alexander b abt 1769 in Wick, George b abt 1771, Katharine Larnach b abt 1772 (chr 27 Sep 1772) in Bower and Magnus b abt 1776 in Bower. If anyone has any information on my Merran Manson I would love to hear from you. Kind Regards, Marilyn Parker WHITIANGA NZ

Hi All, I am wondering if anyone has a spare Elspet JOHNSTONE (could be spelt differently) on their family trees. My William LARNACH b abt 1698 was contracted to marry Elspet on the 22 November 1729 in Wick and married on the 18 December 1729 in Watten. They had four children, Alexander b abt 1730 (chr. 24 May 1730) in Wick, William b abt 1732 (chr 9 July 1732) in Wick, John b abt 1732 (chr 16 July 1732)Watten and Margaret Larnach b abt 1734 (chr January 1734) in Watten. If anyone has any information on Elspet (or William) I would dearly love to hear from you. Kind Regards, Marilyn Parker WHITIANGA NZ

Listers, Without writing individually to all of the over 30 persons who have responded so far to my message below, I'd like to express my thanks on each of their Lists for their help, and give each List an update on the answers. First, following is my original query. I'll continue at the end ....... ************* Date: 1/8/02 I'm writing this to several Lists, so my apologies in advance to those of you who will read this several times ....... Is there SKS with medical knowledge who can explain something for me? My GGgfather died in 1864 of what was loosely termed "damned foolishness" in the family. 30 years ago his last-surviving grandaughter used this term and explained to me that he had ridden on a railway locomotive on some inaugural run and caught a "chill" or something like that, and died of that. Then this past year I found his death certificate, which says the cause of death was "peritonitis". In my meagre medical knowledge I can think of no way to suffer peritonitis from getting a chill .... but am I missing something? I have found that these old family stories usually have a kernal of truth buried somewhere, and so can't help wondering whether there is a connection. I do know that he died very suddenly, aged 39, away from home, within 24 hours after writing a hasty Will. Any help appreciated. *************** Well, most Listers were just as puzzled as I was at any connection between a "chill" and peritonitis. But several suggested that the symptoms of the peritonitis (fever, shaking, etc) might have been assumed by the family to be a chill caught on the ride on the locomotive. Since there was such a large response, I am just barely sufficiently egocentric to think that you might want to know more details of what I think is an interesting story (my feelings won't be hurt if you use the "page down" and/or "delete" buttons at this point - but I will keep track of any of you who do so) ....... Over 30 years ago, my great Aunt told me that her grandfather had died (about 30 years before her birth) as a result of a chill caught while riding on an open-air locomotive on the inaugural run of some railway line or some new locomotive of which he was particularly proud, having been part of the design team involved in the undertaking. This was all I had for the next 25 years. I didn't know when or where he died. Then I found tucked in an old book on the history of Dumbarton parish (printed 1893 and presented to my Ggfather [son of the deceased] in 1895) an old photograph on a heavy card, with the remains of an embossed seal for some "Board", of a very ancient (but new at the time of the photo) locomotive, not far advanced from Stevenson's "Rocket". Three men are in the photo, but far too small to ever identify. The photo was probably kept for over a century for some reason, and that probably was that one of the men was my GGgfather, the deceased in question. I sent a copy of the photo to a "railway nut" (my apologies if you are reading this, Colin) who pointed out that the locomotive appeared to be so new that it had not yet had any railway name painted on it, nor any number for the loco. The horizontal brass boiler can be seen to be shining. He also said that he believed it to be about 1863 or 1864 vintage! However, he could not identify the site of the photo, although it clearly is in some railway yard. I still do not have the location identified. About this time, I found my Ggfather in the 1861 census, at the family home in Bowling, Dumbartonshire, and his widow in 1871 in Glasgow. I also found his employee's railway pass on the Edinburgh & Glasgow Railway, dated 1864, giving his occupation as "Locomotive Superintendant". The plot was thickening (and it wasn't even a dark and stormy night!). Skipping ahead a few years, I found his death certificate a couple of years ago, in September 1864, at the family home in the 1861 census, but the informant was a stranger to me, described as "occupier". And the cause of death was given as peritonitis!! Another pause, and then a few weeks ago I got his Will from the Scottish Documents site. Lo and behold, the Will gives his home address in Edinburgh, and his occupation as "Locomotive Superintendant, Edinburgh", and says that he was "visiting" the house where he died (but where his family lived just 40 months earlier). And it is dated the day before the death, and written by a brother-in-law who was a law clerk, noting that he was too ill to write it himself. My GGgfather was 39 at the time of his death. The fact that his death occurred away from home tends to support the family story that he died on some excursion. And to explain why no family member was informant. I suspect that the informant was a renter in the former home. In addition, it appears that no-one in the immediate family had time to travel from Edinburgh in order to see him before he died and so had to rely on 2nd-hand info about the circumstances of the death. The apparent speed of his death (from the hasty Will) supports the official cause of death of peritonitis. But I have no idea when the supposed ride on the locomotive took place. The "1863/4" photo now becomes more interesting. Was it the last (and only?) photo of him, taken as the locomotive (no carriages attached) left (from the Edinburgh area?) on its inaugural run, or to be delivered to its new headquarters, near Bowling? With him on board? There is no cabin on the locomotive, just an open-air deck with a brass boiler bolted on it. The whole trip would have been in the open air, wind-in-the-teeth, etc. Maybe the family were not that far off-base to suspect a chill ..... The locomotive was probably a real "bone-shaker", and if one rode it while starting to suffer appendicitis (but not wanting to miss the inaugural run of one's "baby"), could that have exacerbated the situation and accelerated a rupture? By the way, none of my Free Church ancestors would have said that he "died of damned foolishness". That was my own attempt at humour. But maybe not too far off the mark ..... So now I have a whole new set of questions, and may never get the answers. But then, look at how much I have learned in the past 30 years (really only the past 5 years). Any suggestions welcome ....... Unless specifically stated otherwise in this message, there is no intentional attachment on this e-mail transmission. Ken Harrison North Vancouver, Canada kenharrison11@cs.com

Hello Listers, Some Caithness Folks from 1851 Midlothian Census. Sth Leith. Glove St. William RENDALL head married 48 cornmiller & agent in Orkney produce born Evie. Christiana RENDALL wife 45 born Castletown,Caithness. Magnus son 23 unm clerk in his fathers business born Sanday. Following children born Sanday- Ann 21, Eliza 19, John 17,clerk. Agnes 14. Last two born Sth Leith. Janet 8,Euphemia 5. Sth Leith. Pines Place. William LEVACH head married 46 London porter merchant born Thurso. Margaret wife 42 born Edinburgh Helen dau 178 dressmaker, William 13, John 4 all born Edinburgh. Sth Leith. Giles St. William SUTHERLAND head married 73 tailor born Thurso John son married 38 tailor born Thurso Jane his wife 28 born Sth Leith David married 28 Corkcutter born Sth Leith Jane his wife 25 born Kinross Jane his dau 1 born St Leith [the above written up differently than normal] St Leith. Merrilees Close. Mathew CORMACK head married 50 born Thurso Margaret Taylor wife 40 born Thurso Dianna CORMACK dau 15 dress & bonnetmaker born Thurso Margaret SUTHERLAND dau 8 born Thurso Sth Leith. Yard Head. Robert McADIO head married 23 journeyman joiner born Wick Ann wife 22 born Wick Benjamin DUNBAR lodger 19 App. plumber born Wick Robert MORRISON 17 lodger born Watten Sth Leith. Yard Head. William JACK head married 59 Publican born Caithness Margaret wife 57 born Caithness Elizabeth day unm 20 born Leith. Sth Leith. King St. Peter WRIGHT head married 43 journeyman cooper born Huna,Caithness Jane wife 46 born Wick Barbara Stirling

I'm writing this to several Lists, so my apologies in advance to those of you who will read this several times ....... Is there SKS with medical knowledge who can explain something for me? My GGgfather died in 1864 of what was loosely termed "damned foolishness" in the family. 30 years ago his last-surviving grandaughter used this term and explained to me that he had ridden on a railway locomotive on some inaugural run and caught a "chill" or something like that, and died of that. Then this past year I found his death certificate, which says the cause of death was "peritonitis". In my meagre medical knowledge I can think of no way to suffer peritonitis from getting a chill .... but am I missing something? I have found that these old family stories usually have a kernal of truth buried somewhere, and so can't help wondering whether there is a connection. I do know that he died very suddenly, aged 39, away from home, within 24 hours after writing a hasty Will. Any help appreciated. Unless specifically stated otherwise in this message, there is no intentional attachment on this e-mail transmission. Ken Harrison North Vancouver, Canada kenharrison11@cs.com HARRISON Yorkshire, Staffordshire, London (Highgate/Hampstead) POTCHIT Yorkshire FISHER London (Highgate/Hampstead) GRIFFIN Staffordshire STANLEY Staffordshire SMELLIE Lanark, Orkney, Glasgow, Tasmania STIRRAT Ayrshire & Glasgow BAIN Caithness MILLER Caithness, Swaziland SPENCE Orkney TRAILL Orkney SELKRIG Lanark WICKETSHAW Lanark MORRISON Perthshire, Islay, Dumbarton, Glasgow, Australia (Vic) BAIRD Renfrew HAM Australia (Vic) THOMPSON Suffolk AGGUS Suffolk BRIGHTWELL Suffolk LAWSON Clackmannan McNABB Islay MURRAY Dumfries, Renfrew GILLESPIE Dumfries HENDERSON Dumfries TICKET (TAKET) Dumfries CALDWELL Tyrone, Renfrew GRAHAM Tyrone, Ontario Genealogists never die ... they just lose their census.

Hi Everyone, Is this of any use to anyone? Next to my husband's grandmothers grave in Logie Kirk, Stirling there is the grave of a gentleman by the name of George McKay from Watten. Here's his MI: In Loving Memory of George McKay Clackmannan County Police Born at Watten Caithness May 1886 Died 20th Feb 1933 age 47 and his second son Alexander died 26th April 1935 age 21 and his wife Lizzie Jane Rosie died 7th Aug 1960 age 73 her sister Mary Rosie died 22nd Jan 1966 age 75 their daughter Isabella McKay died 14th Aug 1982 age 59 Hope its of some use to someone. By the way, I'm researching the HENDERSONS of Stemster in Bower. A Large landowning family in Caithness. Anyone related? Bye for now Sara Donaldson

My perennially missing persons: McKINNON -- Seeking birthplace and family of Angus John McKINNON, "born Scotland" circa 1837 who married and died in Nova Scotia. Possibly Roman Catholic. Children's given names: Nelson, Mary Lydia, Annie Mary, Lilly [Eulalia], John A., Charles Francis, Alberta [Bertha] and Mabel. SUTHERLAND -- Seeking marriage and death information for John "Ian Beag" SUTHERLAND in Caithness. Born approximately 1765-1775. Youngest son of John SUTHERLAND and Betty SUTHERLAND of Kildonan Parish, SUT. Elder brothers John SUTHERLAND (married Catherine GRANT; emigrated to Canada in 1813 on the Hudson Bay Co. ship Prince of Wales) and Donald 'mor' SUTHERLAND died 1858, Kildonan. Married a widow with property in "Glutt of Braemore," Caithness. Widow's identity unknown. With thanks in advance for any help with geography or genealogy, Frances Bishop bishad@direct.ca PS - Were there any Catholic communities in Caithness in the early 1800s?

new to list, Looking for any info on David Manson and Elizabeth Reid in 1860 David was farming at east mey about 6 miles from john o'Groats. they had the following family Isabella 1841( My GG granmother) Janet 1842 M- MacKay David 1844 Mary 1846 M - Sinclair John 1848 worked in Manchester(england) Magnus 1850 worked in Glasgow Elizabeth 1852 M - Dunnet Alexander 1857 Barbara 1860 m- Mowat Any contacts of past and present welcomed and appreciated Wayne Abel New Zealand. Also searching in Aberdeenshire Abels,Wilsons,Taylors, Howies,Duffs,Wallace, Booth;Edwards,Donald.

Looking for ANGUS Donald b 1843 Thurso, married Margaret MANSON (c1846-c1879) Any help would be appreciated Jenny C

Hello I'm new to the list and would appreciate any help in finding the Malcolm family in Caithness. Campbell Malcolm c. 16 Sept. 1798 Canisbay Caithness m. 7 Jan. 1826 Mary Laird Canisbay, Caithness children: Catherine Malcolm c. 24 Feb. 1827 Wick, Caithness George Malcolm Children: Campbell Malcolm - c. 24 Feb. 1827 b. 15 May, 1861 Wick, Caithness Canisbay m. 26 June, 1857 d. 6 Jan. 1920 Victoria B.C. Canada m. 8 June 1883 Canisbay, Caithness Jane/Catherine Cumming Margaret Manson b. 6 Oct. 1859 c. 10 April, 1832 Wick ?? Canisbay, Caithness d. 30 July 1935 Victoria B.C. Canada Campbella Malcolm c. 7 Feb. 1829 Canisbay, Caithness John Manson Malcolm b. 17 May, 1865 Canisbay, Caithness d. 27 April 1950 Sidney B.C. Canada m. 27 Jan. 1894 Victoria B.C. Canada Emma Simpson b. 3 Mar. 1868 South Saanich B.C. Canada d. 11 April 1943 Victoria, B.C. Canada Sinclair Malcolm b. 16 July, 1868 Canisbay, Caithness William Manson Malcolm b. 7 June, 1871 Canisbay, Caithness George Malcolm b. Appx.. 1877 Canisbay, Caithness In the Campbell Malcolm Family there were four children born in Scotland: Jennie Malcolm b. 16 Aug. 1883 Margaret Malcolm 'b. 16 Aug. 1885 Robert Cumming Malcolm b.15 Jan. 1888 Kate Malcolm b.12 Oct. 1889 I have the four birth certificates for the four born in Victoria. B.C. Elizabeth Manson Malcolm b. 21 Aug. 1891 John Manson Malcolm b. 1 Feb.. 1893 William Sinclair Malcolm b. 19 Dec. 1894 Mabel Thomas Malcolm b. 1 April 1897 Thanks for your help Donna Jack Saanichton B.C. Canada

Sheila, How interesting! Margaret Mckenzie married Alexander Sutherland in Latheron in 1796. Don't think it the same family but there can't have been many Mackenzie families marrying into Sutherland families there at that time. Regards, Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sheila Fields" <faireach@earthlink.net> To: "Mark Sutherland-Fisher" <info@highland-family-heritage.co.uk> Cc: <SCT-CAITHNESS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 2:45 AM Subject: Re: Mackenzie (any spelling) in Latheron > Mark, > > I have MacKenzies in Achanacraig (Latheron Parish) in 1798- but no Margaret > that I know of. However, I do not know who James's parents were - only that > he had a brother named Roderick. > > James MacKenzie (b 1772 - d. before 1851) m Christian Sutherland (b 1771 - d > 1855) > married in Lanark May 29, 1791 > c Catherine Mackenzie b.1792 in Lanark > Donald MacKenzie b.1793 in ? > John MacKenzie b.1795 in ? > Benjamin MacKenzie b. 1798 in Achanacraig, Latheron > James MacKenzie b. 1800 " > Helen MacKenzie* b. 1802 " > Grizel MacKenzie b. 1805 " > Jean MacKenzie b. 1807 " > William MacKenzie b.1809 " > Alexander MacKenzie b. 1812 " > > Sheila > *I am descended from Helen MacKenzie. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Sutherland-Fisher" <info@highland-family-heritage.co.uk> > To: <SCT-CAITHNESS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:51 PM > Subject: Mackenzie (any spelling) in Latheron > > > > Ho folks, > > Just a quickie. Does anyone have any Mackenzies in Latheron Parish on > either their trees or any they have seen. Particularly looking for a Margaret > born around 1770-1780. > > Regards, > > Mark > > > >

I am looking for information about: Robert Campbell, farmer, of Caithness, and his daughter Robina in the late 1700s, early 1800s Donald Georgeson, early 1700s, William Georgeson, Latheron, mid 1700s, married Jean Doul Alexander Georgeson, crofter, Watten, married Isabella Doull, Knapperfield, Watten 1801, parents of Alexander Georgeson born Watten, 1804 I am also looking for information about Kapperfield, and possibly a photo. Many thanks, Sue Wragg, Melbourne, Australia

Seeking information regarding the family of Robert McKay (1795-1872) who married Elizabeth McPherson in 1821 at Halkirk. According to IGI , their family included: Donald b. 1824, Peter b. 1826, Neil b. 1829 all at Halkirk. The family moved to Latheron where William was born in 1832 and James in 1834. Robert and his son Neil immigrated to Grey County, Ontario, Canada in 1857. Appreciate any information about this family.

Still looking for parents for John DUNNET born about 1803. He married Eleanor/Helen/Ellen UNSTON in 1825 and had children, John 1826, Jane/Jean 1828, Margaret 1829, William 1831, James 1834, Katherine 1837, Helen 1839, all born Canisbay, Mary Ann 1841 & Barbara 1844, born Wick. John married Christina SHEARER and they came to Australia about 1853 with Christina's parents, John SHEARER & Ann GEDDES. Sandra Qld Australia _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

Hello All, Would like to add my research interests:- BREMNER Wick, Caithness - -1800's REID Wick, Caithness - 1800's GRANT Kilmster > abt 1850 (formerly of Elgin, Moray) CRUICKSHANK < pre 1850 Elgin, Moray My GGGrandmother, Jean GRANT (nee CRUICKSHANK) died at Kilmster in 1867 (according to a card announcing her death sent to her daughter in Australia). I am not exactly sure where this is but believe it to be in or near Caithness. My apologies if I am wrong and the area is not covered by this list. Would love to hear from anyone who may be connected. Best wishes, Beverley, NSW, Australia

Mark, I have MacKenzies in Achanacraig (Latheron Parish) in 1798- but no Margaret that I know of. However, I do not know who James's parents were - only that he had a brother named Roderick. James MacKenzie (b 1772 - d. before 1851) m Christian Sutherland (b 1771 - d 1855) married in Lanark May 29, 1791 c Catherine Mackenzie b.1792 in Lanark Donald MacKenzie b.1793 in ? John MacKenzie b.1795 in ? Benjamin MacKenzie b. 1798 in Achanacraig, Latheron James MacKenzie b. 1800 " Helen MacKenzie* b. 1802 " Grizel MacKenzie b. 1805 " Jean MacKenzie b. 1807 " William MacKenzie b.1809 " Alexander MacKenzie b. 1812 " Sheila *I am descended from Helen MacKenzie. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sutherland-Fisher" <info@highland-family-heritage.co.uk> To: <SCT-CAITHNESS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:51 PM Subject: Mackenzie (any spelling) in Latheron > Ho folks, > Just a quickie. Does anyone have any Mackenzies in Latheron Parish on either their trees or any they have seen. Particularly looking for a Margaret born around 1770-1780. > Regards, > Mark >

Hi, Here are my MILLER/MOWAT lines. Thomas MOWAT m. Elizabeth COOK or Cock their daughter Mary was my 2xggrandmother she was b. abt 1804 Wick d 1865 Kirkstyle Wick. Alexander MILLER b abt 1767 d aged 85 yrs. 1853/5 Stirkoke he m. Elizabeth HARPER 1794 in Wick she d 1846 aged 75 yrs. Children were William c. 1796....James c. 1801....John c.1803....Christian c. 1806....Alexander c. 1810......Donald c. 1813. Mary MOWAT m James MILLER 1826 Wick Children were, Catherine c. 1828....Elizabeth b. abt 1831....Mary b.1832(my ancestor)....Alexander b. abt.1836.....Thomas b abt. 1838....James c. 1841....John c. abt 1847. Thomas MILLER later immigrated to Australia. Any connections? Mary Germany. > I'm afraid I've been sitting in the weeds on this list but you got my > attention with Miller, Mowat and Harper all at once as they happen in mine > also. > > Mine are: (all Caithness) > > John MOWATT m. Margaret MILLER abt.1790 > > Children include my ancestor Donald MOWATT b. 1810 who married Margaret > SINCLAIR abt.1833 > > Children include my ancestor John MOWATT (b. 1835) who married Christina > TULLOCH widow of Alexander HARPER. > > Connections anyone? > > Sharon > Ontario > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <tamiz_moon@hotpop.com> > To: <SCT-CAITHNESS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 12:35 PM > Subject: Re: [SCTCDN] Time for a roundup! (Roll Call) > > > > Hi all... **smiles** > > > > Looking for the following branches... > > > > MILLER - Caithness, Scotland > > CALDER - Caithness, Scotland > > MOWAT - Caithness, Scotland > > HARPER - Caithness, Scotland > > MURRAY- Aberdeenshire, Scotland to Nova Scotia and Quebec, Canada - Early > > 1900's > >>

Hello All, First posting to list. Caithness names I am searching include: William McDonald, married Margaret Henderson in Halkirk, 1872. Parents, Robert McDonald/Ann Manson and David Henderson/Ann Andrew. Children of William and Margaret, William Henderson McDonald, born in Reay? about 1872. (Still searching for birth record) Ann Andrew, Robert, David, Margaret and James. All born in Edinburgh. Regards, Jodi Finch Australia.

CHRISTIE family were living at Brims Head c1830-1850. Carol