Much of the early history of Orkney is in the "The Orkneyinga Saga" one of the early (12th century) Icelandic Sagas that documents the early Nordic history of Orkney. (see http://www.orkneyjar.com/history/saga.htm for much more information) Also check the library/archives in Kirkwall (see http://www.orkneylibrary.org.uk/) And a good general site for all thing Orcadian (see http://www.orkneyjar.com/) Sheila ----- Original Message ----- From: "Le Bateman" <LeBateman@netzero.net> To: <SCT-CAITHNESS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 4:24 PM Subject: Sigurd > Where can I find information on the Norse settlers of Caithness, and > Orkney. I am interested in Sigurd DIGI HOLDVIRSSON'S ancestry. He married > the daughter of Malcolm II. > Le >

For ALL things Caithness try here www.caithness.org Davie

Hi All, I am trying to find the parents of James Doull of Stemster. He was married to Margaret Durrand of Wick. The children that I have found to this couple are Margaret Doull b 27 Aug 1758 Stemster, Alexander Doull b 5 Oct 1760 Stemster, Elspet Doull b 15 Aug 1765, William Doull b 27 Sept 1767 Stemster. I am hoping to find that James parents were William Doull and Elspeth Craich but have had no luck at this stage making a connection. It could be that I am completely wrong. Hope someone can set me on the right path. Cheers. Pat

Hi Laura, I can't help you with any BREMNERs but perhaps you can help me. I am trying to find information on a Isabella BREMNER and John ROBSON who married in Canisbay about 1745-1750. I believe Isabella used Elizabeth as her name at the wedding. They had a son John in April 1750. One of my ancestors was John ROBSON married to Isabella ????? who appear in Elsdon Northumberland in 1750 with a son John born that year. I can't find any John ROBSON marrying an Isabella in Northumberland in a reasonable time scale so I am investigating the pair from Canisbay. Do you know of them? did they have any more children in Scotland? or did they emigrate to the colonies? If either of these possibities then they can be eliminated from my enquiries. John Robson

Colin I have just replied to Celeste's message re MORE family. James More b 1774 being my 3 g grandfather. His daughter Elizabeth b 1803 my 3g Aunt married Donald Anderson. I note you also have Cormacks. Mine go back to Magnus Cormack and Jean Taylor married 1739 in Watten. my 5g grandparents. Have you any further information on your Cormacks in 1700s. Take Care Tricia

Hi Celeste I have sent this also as a separate email to you. Yes the idea of a mailing list is helping one another where possible. I agree. With your posts re Petrie I had wondered if in fact you had links to Petrie > We are related although not via the PETRIE lines. > > Elizabeth More b 1803 was my ggg aunt. > Her parents James More and Helen Robson were my ggg grandparents. > > I am at work at this morning so I don't have all the information to hand. > > briefly my line goes this way > father Daniel b 1915 (know as Adin) More married to Margaret MacDougall > Grandfather Daniel Campbell More married to Annie Cormack Johnston > G Grandfather James More married to Christina Campbell > GG Grandfather John More married to Margaret Budge > GGG grandfather James More married to Helen Robson Look forward to hearing further from you. > > Tricia > Born Patricia MORE in WICK > currently living in Banbury England ----- Original Message ----- From: "n sabatini" <reiss@clara.co.uk> To: <SCT-CAITHNESS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 10:27 PM Subject: Re: PETRIE > Hi Tricia, > > I notice you are a MORE. I also have MORE in my family ... going back to > 1725 with James More (Sarclet). My ggg grandmother was Elizabeth More, born > 29 Dec 1803 Sarclet, and married to Donald Anderson, Sarclet. > Happy hunting, > Celeste >

Hello Celeste and Colin, I am very interested in your posts regarding the above. I have only recently discovered that my 4 X great grandfather was George OLL (Born C.1760) who married Janet SMITH (Born C.1765) in Wick in January 1787. Their son Alexander OAL (Born; C1790) was my 3 X great grandfather. He married Margaret MURRAY in Wick in November 1814. Their son, John OAL aka AULD (Born C.1817) was my g.great grandfather. During the 1800's the family appeared to change their name from OAL to AULD then back again as the mood took them. At the end of the century they seemed to finally settle on AULD. Do any of these connect with your OLL/OAL researches? I should be delighted to hear from you. Regards. Stuart, Edenbridge, Kent

i am researching the OAG surname (as originating in Caithness) concentrating on the female lines as much as possible. i don't have a whole lot of information other than that shared by Valerie Oag who has done a straight line back to Elspeth FARQUHAR and Alexander OAG. However, my ggrandfather was born William OAG in Pulteneytown, Wick, Caithness to John Oag (parents William O. and Margaret FORBES) and Isabella BREMNER (whose mother's maiden name was also BREMNER) (parents Alexander and Elizabeth BREMNER). Since the BREMNER cup also overfloweth, please send me any odd BREMNERs as well as OAGs you find lying about. :-) Namaste, Laurie in Ontario, Canada IBSSG, RAOGK Volunteer

In a message dated 15/04/03 22:27:44 GMT Daylight Time, reiss@clara.co.uk writes: > . I've also been taking a note of the name OAL as > I knew someone else was looking for information - I also have OAL in my > family. I've yet to put my OAL information on the Caithness mailing list. > > I notice you are a MORE. I also have MORE in my family ... going back to > 1725 with James More (Sarclet). My ggg grandmother was Elizabeth More, > born > 29 Dec 1803 Sarclet, and married to Donald Anderson, Sarclet. > Celeste Interesting . I have a Helen Oll ( b.abt 1700) m.to Donald Cormack in Keiss . They were my 6 x grt grand parents . Also my grandaughter on her father's side is the ggggg grand daughter of Elizabeth More and Donald Anderson .Her paternal granny has Anderson as a middle name and lives in Edinburgh . Colin frae Crieff

Hi Tricia, I don't have any link to PETRIE. I thought the idea of the Mailing List was that we help each other if at all possible. Whilst doing my own family research I noted down the PETRIE names that I found as I knew that George W. was seeking information. If I can, I don't mind helping anyone. I've also been taking a note of the name OAL as I knew someone else was looking for information - I also have OAL in my family. I've yet to put my OAL information on the Caithness mailing list. I notice you are a MORE. I also have MORE in my family ... going back to 1725 with James More (Sarclet). My ggg grandmother was Elizabeth More, born 29 Dec 1803 Sarclet, and married to Donald Anderson, Sarclet. Happy hunting, Celeste

Noticed the following obituary in the Toronto Star and thought it might be of interest to someone on this list: BREMNER, James Manson Sep 21, 1913 - March 23, 2003 Passed away in Edmonton, Alberta. Predeceased by his wife Helen in 1982 and by his five brothers and two sisters. Survived by his son Thomas and daughter in law Christine. Jim was born in Wick, Scotland. He served overseas with the Toronto Scottish Regiment and attained the rank of Regimental Sergeant Major during the Second World War. Jim's true passion was the Masonic Order and he attained Grand Rank in several orders. He was a benefactor of Brock University, St. Catherines, Ontario. Funeral services Saturday followed by interment at Glendale Memorial Gardens, Etobicoke, Ontario. Allison MacKay in Toronto

Hi Celeste The information you gave with the Caithness births and marriages is great thanks. I am linked to Petrie from Caithness. The marriage you listed of William Petrie to Catherine Gun. William is my half 4g Uncle. His parents were Donald Petrie b 1734 d 1775 and Mary Sutherland. Mary married again after Donald's death to Magnus Cormack my 4 g grandfather. There were no children from William Petrie and Catherine Gun. My Donald b 1734 most likely links to George Weston's line but we have yet to prove it. Very close though :) What is your link to the Caithness Petries? Tricia born Patricia MORE, Wick Caithness now in Banbury UK

Hi George, More information for you on PETRIE that I have found while doing my own research. The following is taken from the Wick Parish Registers for 1820-1854. Page 8 May 12th 1820 George PETRIE, Shoemaker in Pulteneytown had by his wife Helen Malcom a daughter born 12th May, baptised 23rd May and named Janet. Witnesses: John Tait, Shoemaker and David PETRIE, Cartwright inPulteneytown. Page 18 July 22nd 1820 David PETRIE, Carter in Pulteneytown had by his wife Alexanderina Robertson a son born July 22nd, baptised Sptember 1st 1820 and named David. Witnesses: ...? Robinson/Robertson?, Fisherman in Pulteneytown and Helen PETRIE. Page 33 March 3rd 1821 George PETRIE, Shoemaker in Pulteneytown had by his wife Helen Malcom a son born 3rd March, baptised 12th March and named William. Witnesses: David Ross, Cooper in Pulteneytown and .......? Miller, Cooper in Wick. Page 35B Nov 2nd 1821 Donald PETRIE, Pensioner in Wick had by his wife Jean Darrak or Darrah (?) a daughter born 2nd November, baptised 9th November and named Margaret. Witnesses: David PETRIE, Carter and George PETRIE, Shoemaker, both there (i.e. both in Wick). Page 59 March 4th 1823 George PETRIE, Shoemaker in Putleneytown had by his wife Helen Malcom a daughter born 4th March, baptised 9th March and named Charlotte. Witnessed by the Congregation. Page 63 August 17th 1823 Donald PETRIE, Farmer in ..........? had by his wife Jean Darrak or Darrah (?) a son born August 17th, baptised September 19th and named John. Witnesses: John Riock or Rioch, Farmer in .........? and David PETRIE, Carter in Pulteneytown. Page 107 August 6th 1825 Donald PETRIE had by his wife Jean Darragh a daughter baptised and named Euphemia on 6th August. Page 137 February 9th 1827 Donald PETRIE, Pensioner in .........? had by his wife Jean Darrack or Darrach a son baptised and named Donald on February 9th. Page 151 1827 David PETRIE, Carter in Pulteneytown had by his wife Alexanderina Robertson the following children: Margaret baptised 7th May 1822 and James baptised 14th October 1825. Witnessed by the Congregation. Page 161 George PETRIE, Shoemaker in Pulteneytown had by his wife Helen Malcolm the following children: Elizabeth born 27th October(?) 1826 and Hellen born 27th November 1824. Page 234 David PETRIE, Carter in Pulteneytown had by his wife Alexanderina Robertson: June 22nd 1830 a daughter named Barbara, witnessed by the Congregation; and on March 23rd 1828 a son named George, witnesses George PETRIE, Shoemaker in Pulteneytown and William PETRIE. Page 234 George PETRIE, Shoemaker in Pulteneytown had by his wife Helen Malcom a son baptised and named David on 29th March, witnessed by the Congregation; and a daughter born 29th July 182(?)5 and named Alexanderina. Page 287 David PETRIE, Carter in Pultenytown had by his wife Alexanderina Robertson a daughter born 24th October 1832 and named Anne, witnesses George PETRIE and Wife, Pultenytown. Page 298 George PETRIE, Shoemaker in Pulteneytown had by his wife Helen Malcolm a child born July 19th 1828 and baptised Alexanderina, witnessed by the Congregation. Also born 1st April 1830 and baptised David Tait(?), witnessed by the Congregation. Also born 15th May 1833 and baptised John Tait(?), witnessed by the Congregation. MARRIAGE REGISTER ENTRIES... Page 12 September 14th 1822 William PETRIE, Manager of the Ropeworks in Pulteneytown was matrimonially contracted to Catherine Gun, daughter of the late Mr Gun ........................? .....? Cormack, Fishcurer in Pulteneytown, Court for the man and Robert Sandison, Shoemaker in Wick, Court for the woman. No marriage date is mentioned. Page 19 May 22nd 1824 William Nicol, Joiner in Pulteneytown was matrimonially contracted to Helen PETRIE there. George PETRIE, Shoemaker in Pulteneytown was Court for the man and David PETRIE, Carter there, for the woman. Page 102 January 29th 1841 George PETRIE Senior, Shoemaker in Pulteneytown was matrimonially contracted to Christina(?) Begg there. George Petrie Junior, Shoemaker in Pulteneytown, Court for the man and William Sutherland, Fisherman there, for the woman. No marriage date is mentioned. Page 178 Andrew Manson, Shoemaker in Pulteneytown and Janet PETRIE duaghter of George PETRIE, Shoemaker in Pulteneytown, were matrimonially contracted on 1st October and married by the Rev. William Taylor on 6th October 1852. Found no mention of Catherine PETRIE or Elizabeth Campbell. Have you considered that the marriage did not take place in Wick? Anyway, I'll take note of any further PETRIES I come across. Good luck Celeste

Hello Just back from a holiday in NZ. Whilst there we learnt of the Donald Sutherland who helped to open up Milford Sound. He came from Wick and as my husband has got Sutherland ancestors also from Wick, I wondered if anyone had more info on Donald Kay

I was researching my families in Volumes One and Two of "A Dictionary of Scottish Emigrants to Canada Before Confederation" (1867 for you out-of-towners) for the names of my folks: BURGESS, BANNERMAN, MCCALLUM, MCDONALD, MCLEAN and got them all. As a consequence, I've got extra names which appear on the pages I needed and can check for the following surnames in addition to the ones listed above. If your Scottish-Canadian surnames are covered in this, and you want them checked, reply to me at jcmclean@sprint.ca There is quite a lot of information available in the entries in this little gem. Here's what I have: VOLUME 1 SURNAMES : AULD to BARCLAY BRYDEN to BURNET MCBRIDE to MCCONNACHIE MCCUNN to MACDONELL MCLAREN to MACLELLAN VOL 2 SURNAMES: BAILLIE to BANKS BANNERMAN to BARROWMAN BUCHANAN to BYERS MACAULEY to MCCONNELL MCCULLOCH to MCDOUGALL MACKINNON to MCLEAY Note that Mc's and Mac's are both included

Why doesn't CAITHNESS appear in the listing then the subject like other rootsweb lists do? More than once I've almost deleted something thinking it was spam. Carol, in AZ

Listers, I apologize to those who will get this on more than one List. I will be unsubscribing soon, to take a month's R&R. If you want to write to me, please do so off List. And don't say anything interesting while I'm gone :-) I plan to be back in May Unless specifically stated otherwise in this message, there is no intentional attachment on this e-mail transmission. Ken Harrison North Vancouver, Canada HARRISON Yorkshire, Staffordshire, London (Highgate/Hampstead) POTCHIT Yorkshire FISHER London (Highgate/Hampstead) GRIFFIN Staffordshire STANLEY Staffordshire SMELLIE Lanark, Orkney, Glasgow, Tasmania STIRRAT Ayrshire & Glasgow BAIN Caithness MILLER Caithness, Swaziland SPENCE Orkney TRAILL Orkney SELKRIG Lanark WICKETSHAW Lanark MORRISON Perthshire, Islay, Dumbarton, Glasgow, Australia (Vic) BAIRD Renfrew HAM Australia (Vic) THOMPSON Suffolk AGGUS Suffolk BRIGHTWELL Suffolk LAWSON Clackmannan McNABB Islay MURRAY Dumfries, Renfrew GILLESPIE Dumfries HENDERSON Dumfries TICKET (TAKET) Dumfries CALDWELL Tyrone, Renfrew GRAHAM Tyrone, Ontario Genealogists never die ... they just lose their census.

I believe that this list is fairly close to accurate, but would be interested in connecting with someone else to compare notes... Wendy Descendants of: David Henderson 1 David Henderson b. ABT 1760 m. Christian Stephen m. 21 Feb 1782 Canisbay, Caithness, Scotland b. ABT 1760 2 Jean Henderson b. BEF 19 Oct 1783 Freswick, Canisbay, Caithness, Scotland 2 Sinclair Henderson b. BEF 28 Apr 1786 Freswick, Canisbay, Caithness, Scotland 2 Magnus Henderson b. 14 May 1787 Freswick, Canisbay, Caithness, Scotland m. Helen KENNEDY m. 24 Dec 1819 Canisbay, Caithness, Scotland 3 Helen Henderson b. 26 Jan 1823 Freswick, Canisbay, Caithness, Scotland 3 David Henderson b. 2 Jul 1825 Freswick, Canisbay, Caithness, Scotland 3 John Henderson b. 23 May 1828 Freswick, Canisbay, Caithness, Scotland 3 Magnus Henderson b. BEF 28 Apr 1831 Freswick, Canisbay, Caithness, Scotland 3 Bell Henderson b. 25 Jan 1835 Freswick, Canisbay, Caithness, Scotland 2 John Henderson b. 12 Sep 1789 Canisbay, Caithness, Scotland 2 Donald Henderson b. BEF 25 Nov 1792 Freswick, Canisbay, Caithness, Scotland 2 David Henderson b. 27 Jan 1796 Freswick, Canisbay, Caithness, Scotland d. AFT 1871 m. Isobel (Bell) Manson m. 8 Feb 1839 Watten, Caithness, Scotland b. BEF 20 May 1803 Watten, Caithness, Scotland d. BEF 1851 [daughter of James Manson and Christan GEORGESON] 3 James Henderson b. 24 Nov 1839 Freswick, Canisbay, Caithness, Scotland d. 29 May 1918 Vancouver, BC, Canada m. Margaret Wallace m. 14 Nov 1873 Port Perry, Reach Township, Ontario County, Canada b. 25 Mar 1854 Scotland or Ireland d. 10 Mar 1938 2304 OxfordSt., Vancouver, BC, Canada [daughter of William or Alexander or David Wallace and Mary Baggot] 3 Magnus Henderson b. 16 Feb 1841 Freswick, Canisbay, Caithness, Scotland 3 Donald Henderson b. 26 Feb 1843 Freswick, Canisbay, Caithness, Scotland > > > Subject: Re: HENDERSON > Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 00:17:24 EST > From: Gwbrews@aol.com > To: SCT-CAITHNESS-L@rootsweb.com >

Susie I think that they are the same couple, marrying twice. Some of the responses I've had indicate that the dates are for banns called in both parishes. The bride's name was Elizabeth. In one parish she used Elizabeth & in the other Betty, which is the short form of Elizabeth. So no-one is researching this family? :( regards Lyn ----- Original Message ----- From: <Spmarjan@aol.com> To: <SCT-CAITHNESS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 9:09 AM Subject: Re: Multiple Marriages > Re: Mulitple marriages, > > Are we looking at a legal marriage, then a common-law one? Or two illegal > ones with one man and two ladies here? > > Curious, > > Susie. >

Hi List Would you please put replies to the list as I would be very interested to see the comments on this situation. I have found two instances of the same thing and in both cases one of the partners came from Latheron and the other from Halkirk. Regards Jim Yeoman Herbert New Zealand