This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Packman becomes Russell Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ReC.2ACI/2475 Message Board Post: Dear Howard, did some searching through the L.D.S. couldnt find Joseph Russells date of birth, however I did find Joseph Packman born April 1860,mother Eliz. 1881 Census.... dwelling Quarryhead 10acres head Joseph Russell,born april 1860 Grange mother housekeeper, elizabeth packman nephew age 9yrs. so how did joseph packman, become joseph russell his mother didnt marry, can you solve this one Howard margaret ps anyone can join in all e-mails will be ans. thank you.