This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ReC.2ACI/2464.2 Message Board Post: Hi My mother inlaw was a wood from port knokie, her name was Beatrice(Beaty) her family lived on Samson St.Beaty moved to Gt Yarmouth, England about1966. She had a sister Catherine (cathy) who still lives,a brother Leonard(Lenny) who lived in Cullen and died 2002. Beaty married an Air force guy called James Hamilton who was from Glasgow and had two chilren Michael Wood Hamilton and Tommy. I think these may be of some help to you.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Paterson, Donaldson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ReC.2ACI/2297.4.1 Message Board Post: Unfortunately, I don't think our Patersons are related. As for the Donaldsons, they came originally from Ross & Cromarty to Gamrie in the 1820s. The last I have in my tree is Jane b. 1855 in Monquhitter. She had 7 siblings born in Gamrie and Banff between then and 1871. Don't think there's a connection. Thanks anyway.

Can you give us some information on this line please I have Murdoch relations in Banff and surrounding area and most of them seem to be related to each other. Katie ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 06 December 2002 13:00 Subject: [Banff] Re: David Murdoch > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ReC.2ACI/482.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Hello Melissa Brady, > I am related to David Murdoch. I am descended from his son Alexander. > I have some information about the family. Perhaps I can be of help. > > > ==== SCT-BANFFSHIRE Mailing List ==== > ** Tired of this LIST? Going on vacation, holiday, a business trip? ** > Send an email with one word, UNSUBSCRIBE, in the Subject & Message > area to: [email protected] Digest? Make "L" a "D". > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Jim and Jenn, and is also in my line. I can't find a wedding for John Christie and Hellen Gordon yet but I have found 5 sons and 1 daughter. Hellen, Robert, Andrew, Adam, Charles and Alexander. Andrew and Hannah had 11 children that I know about. Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Mitchell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [Banff] TAYLOR - Fordyce and Portsoy > Hi Jenn > > >Helen Christie who married George Taylor 5 Jun.1869. Banff Scotland > > >is the grandaughter of my gt.gt grandparents John Christie & Helen Gordon. > > >Helen's parents are Andrew Christie & Hannah Hendry who married 23 Nov.1845 > Banff Scotland. > > >Regards Jim Mitchell West. Australia. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill & Jennifer" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 1:05 AM > Subject: Re: [Banff] TAYLOR - Fordyce and Portsoy > > > > Would you know who Helen Christie's parents are? I have interests in > > Fordyce through my Chisholm line. > > Thanks, > > Jenn Agar > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Alex Riach" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 3:42 PM > > Subject: [Banff] TAYLOR - Fordyce and Portsoy > > > > > > > Hi Howard, > > > > > > I have only started on this line but it makes interesting reading. The > > > only thing I will say is that the girls gave their children middle > > > names. From the CRE's for some of them (who survived) it relates to > > > the father of the child. (Ill - Illegitimate). > > > > > > James Taylor ma. Elizabeth Bowie > > > s. George Taylor b. 1837 ma. Helen Christie b. 1851 Ord, Banff > > > Their children James b.1869, Andrew Christie b.1871, Henry b.1873, > > > George b.1874, Mary Kidd b.1876, Helen b.1878, John b.1881, Elizabeth > > > b.1882, Alexander b.1884 d.1950 unm, Margaret b. 1890, Hannah b.1891, > > > Barbara b.1893, Charlotte b.1896 > > > > > > All the children were born at Redhythe Cottage, Fordyce except Hannah, > > > Barbara and Charlotte who were born at North Mains of Durn, Portsoy. > > > > > > Mary Kidd Taylor had the following children; > > > James Dow Taylor (Ill) b.1899 North Mains of Durn > > > Maggie Farquhar Taylor (Ill) b.1901 North Mains of Durn > > > Married George Taylor and had a son George Taylor > > > Mary died 1939 > > > > > > Helen Taylor had the following children > > > Jane Young Taylor (Ill) b.1901 died in infancy (?) 3 Loch Lane, > > > Portsoy > > > George Forsyth Taylor(Ill) b.1903 died in infancy 3 Loch Lane, Portsoy > > > George Howett Taylor(Ill) b.1904 3 Loch Lane, Portsoy (went to NZ) > > > Helen Howett Taylor(Ill) b.1908 3 Loch Lane, Portsoy > > > > > > Elizabeth Taylor > > > Jessie Pirie Taylor (Ill)b.1901 3 Loch Lane Portsoy ( went to NZ) (Had > > > a son John (Ill) b.1922 died at birth, 3 Loch Lane Portsoy) > > > William Mitchell Taylor(Ill) b.1907 3 Loch Lane Portsoy (went to NZ) > > > Helen McKenzie Taylor(Ill) b.1912 3 Loch Lane Portsoy CRE father > > > George McKenzie (Decree 19 May 1920) > > > Elizabeth died in 1952 > > > > > > Margaret Taylor > > > Two girls, both (Ill) born Smiddy Boyne 1923 and 1926 (CRE for both > > > fathers) > > > > > > Hannah Taylor > > > Helen McKenzie (Ill) b.1914 CRE father William McKenzie (not sure if > > > he was involved in WWI) 3 Loch Lane Portsoy > > > > > > Charlotte Taylor > > > She had 3 girls(Ill) and 2 boys (Ill) of which have CRE's naming the > > > fathers. 9 Church St Portsoy. Did eventually marry the father of her > > > last child. > > > > > > I do have the details of Charlotte and Margaret's children born > > > between 1914 and 1930. This was only the first pass. I have to look at > > > the boys of the family and their grand parents yet. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Sandy > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-BANFFSHIRE Mailing List ==== > > > ** Tired of this LIST? Going on vacation, holiday, a business trip? ** > > > Send an email with one word, UNSUBSCRIBE, in the Subject & Message > > > area to: [email protected] Digest? Make "L" a "D". > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-BANFFSHIRE Mailing List ==== > > ~~ SUBJECT LINES ~~ > > Think about it!! A picture's worth 1000 words; a Subject Line more! > > The 4 W's: Who? What? When? and Where? 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Hi Jenn >Helen Christie who married George Taylor 5 Jun.1869. Banff Scotland >is the grandaughter of my gt.gt grandparents John Christie & Helen Gordon. >Helen's parents are Andrew Christie & Hannah Hendry who married 23 Nov.1845 Banff Scotland. >Regards Jim Mitchell West. Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill & Jennifer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 1:05 AM Subject: Re: [Banff] TAYLOR - Fordyce and Portsoy > Would you know who Helen Christie's parents are? I have interests in > Fordyce through my Chisholm line. > Thanks, > Jenn Agar > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alex Riach" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 3:42 PM > Subject: [Banff] TAYLOR - Fordyce and Portsoy > > > > Hi Howard, > > > > I have only started on this line but it makes interesting reading. The > > only thing I will say is that the girls gave their children middle > > names. From the CRE's for some of them (who survived) it relates to > > the father of the child. (Ill - Illegitimate). > > > > James Taylor ma. Elizabeth Bowie > > s. George Taylor b. 1837 ma. Helen Christie b. 1851 Ord, Banff > > Their children James b.1869, Andrew Christie b.1871, Henry b.1873, > > George b.1874, Mary Kidd b.1876, Helen b.1878, John b.1881, Elizabeth > > b.1882, Alexander b.1884 d.1950 unm, Margaret b. 1890, Hannah b.1891, > > Barbara b.1893, Charlotte b.1896 > > > > All the children were born at Redhythe Cottage, Fordyce except Hannah, > > Barbara and Charlotte who were born at North Mains of Durn, Portsoy. > > > > Mary Kidd Taylor had the following children; > > James Dow Taylor (Ill) b.1899 North Mains of Durn > > Maggie Farquhar Taylor (Ill) b.1901 North Mains of Durn > > Married George Taylor and had a son George Taylor > > Mary died 1939 > > > > Helen Taylor had the following children > > Jane Young Taylor (Ill) b.1901 died in infancy (?) 3 Loch Lane, > > Portsoy > > George Forsyth Taylor(Ill) b.1903 died in infancy 3 Loch Lane, Portsoy > > George Howett Taylor(Ill) b.1904 3 Loch Lane, Portsoy (went to NZ) > > Helen Howett Taylor(Ill) b.1908 3 Loch Lane, Portsoy > > > > Elizabeth Taylor > > Jessie Pirie Taylor (Ill)b.1901 3 Loch Lane Portsoy ( went to NZ) (Had > > a son John (Ill) b.1922 died at birth, 3 Loch Lane Portsoy) > > William Mitchell Taylor(Ill) b.1907 3 Loch Lane Portsoy (went to NZ) > > Helen McKenzie Taylor(Ill) b.1912 3 Loch Lane Portsoy CRE father > > George McKenzie (Decree 19 May 1920) > > Elizabeth died in 1952 > > > > Margaret Taylor > > Two girls, both (Ill) born Smiddy Boyne 1923 and 1926 (CRE for both > > fathers) > > > > Hannah Taylor > > Helen McKenzie (Ill) b.1914 CRE father William McKenzie (not sure if > > he was involved in WWI) 3 Loch Lane Portsoy > > > > Charlotte Taylor > > She had 3 girls(Ill) and 2 boys (Ill) of which have CRE's naming the > > fathers. 9 Church St Portsoy. Did eventually marry the father of her > > last child. > > > > I do have the details of Charlotte and Margaret's children born > > between 1914 and 1930. This was only the first pass. I have to look at > > the boys of the family and their grand parents yet. > > > > Regards, > > Sandy > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-BANFFSHIRE Mailing List ==== > > ** Tired of this LIST? Going on vacation, holiday, a business trip? ** > > Send an email with one word, UNSUBSCRIBE, in the Subject & Message > > area to: [email protected] Digest? Make "L" a "D". > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-BANFFSHIRE Mailing List ==== > ~~ SUBJECT LINES ~~ > Think about it!! A picture's worth 1000 words; a Subject Line more! > The 4 W's: Who? What? When? and Where? Don't leave home without 'em! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ReC.2ACI/2297.4 Message Board Post: Hello, I've got a William James Pat(t)erson born in scotland, was a fireman, married Helen mcArthur born inscotland, emigrated to new jersey 1800's and Donaldsons who hooked up in end 1800's Any ties?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Burkett, Ford, Martin, Alexander, Reinhardt, Bernhardt, Violenus Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ReC.2ACI/243.269.464.1 Message Board Post: He married into the Cherokee Nation. There is information on his descent line. I will E-mail it to you. You can E-mail me privately.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ReC.2ACI/482.1 Message Board Post: Hello Melissa Brady, I am related to David Murdoch. I am descended from his son Alexander. I have some information about the family. Perhaps I can be of help.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hislop, Sullivan, Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ReC.2ACI/1823.1822.1958 Message Board Post: Looking for info. on Andrew Edward Hislop, born-May 1887, Scotland- father Peter Edward Hislop, mother Sarah Jane (Jones) Hislop- Peter born Feb. 1854 Ssctland - Sarah born Aug. 1867 Whales. Andrew married Ellen Sullivan born New York,Oct.1886. Thanks for your help in advance, Cecil Hislop

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ReC.2ACI/2479 Message Board Post: I am looking for any information about Charlotte Barclay, married to Jack Brady, parents of Mary E Brady. She married John William Smiddy. Mary was born June 1873.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ReC.2ACI/171.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: HELLO, IAM NEW AT THIS . MY GREAT GRANDMOTHER WAS LETTIE ABILGAIL ABERNATHY. SHE MARRIED JOHN MACK GULLETT. ARE WE CONNECTED. SHEREE ANN MASON DICKEN

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ReC.2ACI/2478 Message Board Post: Hello, I'm looking for information on John Troup born abt. 1865 in Illinois. He married Eva(Evalyn) Cousin from Indiana. They lived in Purcell, McClain county, Oklahoma. They had at least nine children. My grandmother, Ida Gertrude Troup(Ida Goff then Ida Crawford of Alamogordo, NM), was perhaps the youngest of the nine. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Would you know who Helen Christie's parents are? I have interests in Fordyce through my Chisholm line. Thanks, Jenn Agar ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Riach" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 3:42 PM Subject: [Banff] TAYLOR - Fordyce and Portsoy > Hi Howard, > > I have only started on this line but it makes interesting reading. The > only thing I will say is that the girls gave their children middle > names. From the CRE's for some of them (who survived) it relates to > the father of the child. (Ill - Illegitimate). > > James Taylor ma. Elizabeth Bowie > s. George Taylor b. 1837 ma. Helen Christie b. 1851 Ord, Banff > Their children James b.1869, Andrew Christie b.1871, Henry b.1873, > George b.1874, Mary Kidd b.1876, Helen b.1878, John b.1881, Elizabeth > b.1882, Alexander b.1884 d.1950 unm, Margaret b. 1890, Hannah b.1891, > Barbara b.1893, Charlotte b.1896 > > All the children were born at Redhythe Cottage, Fordyce except Hannah, > Barbara and Charlotte who were born at North Mains of Durn, Portsoy. > > Mary Kidd Taylor had the following children; > James Dow Taylor (Ill) b.1899 North Mains of Durn > Maggie Farquhar Taylor (Ill) b.1901 North Mains of Durn > Married George Taylor and had a son George Taylor > Mary died 1939 > > Helen Taylor had the following children > Jane Young Taylor (Ill) b.1901 died in infancy (?) 3 Loch Lane, > Portsoy > George Forsyth Taylor(Ill) b.1903 died in infancy 3 Loch Lane, Portsoy > George Howett Taylor(Ill) b.1904 3 Loch Lane, Portsoy (went to NZ) > Helen Howett Taylor(Ill) b.1908 3 Loch Lane, Portsoy > > Elizabeth Taylor > Jessie Pirie Taylor (Ill)b.1901 3 Loch Lane Portsoy ( went to NZ) (Had > a son John (Ill) b.1922 died at birth, 3 Loch Lane Portsoy) > William Mitchell Taylor(Ill) b.1907 3 Loch Lane Portsoy (went to NZ) > Helen McKenzie Taylor(Ill) b.1912 3 Loch Lane Portsoy CRE father > George McKenzie (Decree 19 May 1920) > Elizabeth died in 1952 > > Margaret Taylor > Two girls, both (Ill) born Smiddy Boyne 1923 and 1926 (CRE for both > fathers) > > Hannah Taylor > Helen McKenzie (Ill) b.1914 CRE father William McKenzie (not sure if > he was involved in WWI) 3 Loch Lane Portsoy > > Charlotte Taylor > She had 3 girls(Ill) and 2 boys (Ill) of which have CRE's naming the > fathers. 9 Church St Portsoy. Did eventually marry the father of her > last child. > > I do have the details of Charlotte and Margaret's children born > between 1914 and 1930. This was only the first pass. I have to look at > the boys of the family and their grand parents yet. > > Regards, > Sandy > > > > ==== SCT-BANFFSHIRE Mailing List ==== > ** Tired of this LIST? Going on vacation, holiday, a business trip? ** > Send an email with one word, UNSUBSCRIBE, in the Subject & Message > area to: [email protected] Digest? Make "L" a "D". > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: MUTCH, RIDDELL Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/mbexec/msg/5538/ReC.2ACI/2477 Message Board Post: Hi listers, I really hope there is someone out there who can help me get some where. I am trying to trace my father's line and would appreciate any info anyone can come up on the following two people. Jeanie Hay Mutch (born in marnoch) parents unknown possibly around 1920. She had my father Alexander Riddell Mutch and his brother Edward (died young age unknown) whilst living in Aberchirder (foggieloan) and the father is believed to be an Alexander Riddell. My father traced a half sister called Evelyn who has since died but i believe she may have lived in Ellon. there is also believed to be another half brother. My grandmother then left Aberchirder, leaving my father and brother with my granny chrissie who lived on main street I believe and who brought my father up as one of her own. I believe my grandfather also lived on main street but this is from word of mouth via my mother. jeanie then was traced to dingwell, the black Isle where it is believed she got married to (unknown) Fleming and had further children of which there were twins. she died in 1962 from cancer aged 42 hence the approximate birth date.She was buried in a churchyard in dingwall although I have no name of which one. my grandfather is believed to have died around 1993 although it could have been later and is buried in the marnoch churchyard. I believe my fathers brother Edward is also buried in the marnoch churchyard. he died from asthma at an early age. I really hope someone can help me out here. I've tried searching the LDS for both but haven't come up with anything. maybe they are too recent or something. Any help would be greatfully recieved. Thanks in advance Adele wallwork [email protected]

Hi Sandy. I cannot add anything about the Riachs in Deskford - the name simply hasn't cropped up there for me previously, most likely because the earliest I have got back with my Reids is after your Riachs seemed to departed Deskford. What follows is trying to figure some linkage between our respective Reids in Deskford. The only fitting parents to my main-line James REID (h/o Janet CLARK) are James REID and Elizabeth GRANT who married 8-10-1757 Deskford, so he was born late-1757 Cairntown Deskford. I have found three Deskford-born siblings: John, Jean, Margaret, born Cairntown or Cairstown. I've taken all this to refer to Carestown Deskford, rather than, say, Cairnton Fordyce. Reid witnesses to the four baptisms are: Jean (twice), John, Elspet, Jane. Your Isabel and Janet Reid could be sisters of the above James Reid (senior), but the IGI doesn't come up with such a trio of siblings (at least I couldn't find such) and there is clearly quite a Reid presence in Deskford around the 1720/30s so they could easily be from different families. However, one interesting family turns up: John Reid and Janet Mill had two children (per IGI): Isobel bpt 15-10-1727 Deskford and Janet bpt 27-9-1729 Deskford. And two of my Reid witnesses were John Mill and Elspet Mill. There are no other coincidences of surnames that I can see, so maybe there's a clue there. [I've since found more children of this couple - it's somewhat aggravating to find that the IGI search engine is somewhat random at the moment - some search criteria return nil-results when it's blatently obvious they shouldn't.] The best fit I can find for my James Reid is s/o John Reid and Janet Simpson, their children all bpt Deskford (per IGI): JANET REID 28 MAY 1728 JEAN REID 15 DEC 1729 JAMES REID 03 DEC 1732 <---- a fit ISOBEL REID 23 DEC 1734 ELSPET REID 26 DEC 1737 JOHN REID 01 SEP 1739 WALTER REID 25 JUN 1741 Another James Reid fit is s/o Alexander Reid and Janet Stables, bpt 25 JUN 1728 Deskford. The rest of their family is in the IGI - they clearly moved from Keith to Grange to Deskford. I wouldn't be surprised that a brother of James Reid is John Reid who married Elspet Milton in 1758 and had a large family all in Deskford - I haven't looked at the OPR for this family - it might give some clues. As for Elizabeth Grant, I don't know, but she is surely related to David Grant who married Margaret Wilson (1760, Keith and Deskford - no children that I can find), for both those names turn up as witnesses to Reid/Grant children. David Grant was probably the one bpt 19-10-1734 Deskford to John Grant and Mary Bower (also no other children found: a John Grant also turns up as witness). Doesn't help much with our respective Reids though. That's about all I can add at the moment. > Howard, around 18 and 19 century there were churches around that as of > this day (that I am aware of, it may have changed) have not released > their records. I know that Graham Wilson, the archivist in Elgin > managed to get the Catholic records - do you know if any more have > been released? I may take a trip up there in the next few days. Re your final point above: I don't know! A chunk of the early Deskford records in the IGI are from personal submissions, with all that that implies. Hope some of the above babbling contains something useful! Regards Howard

Hi Sandy. > I have only started on this line but it makes interesting reading. The > only thing I will say is that the girls gave their children middle > names. From the CRE's for some of them (who survived) it relates to > the father of the child. (Ill - Illegitimate). It certainly does make interesting reading. That's quite a family! I can't see any connections with my line, but a couple of the addresses are interesting. Perhaps someone on the list may elucidate. I also chucked in some surnames to see if any ring any bells: 3 Loch Lane: in 1881, I can only find Loch Street in Portsoy, the only Loch Lane being in Boyndie. Do you know where Loch Lane was in Portsoy? Sounds to me as though it would be an offshoot off Loch St. My modern map has neither. One of 'mine', Jessie MORRISON, was in Loch St in 1881 as a dom serv, and in the 1840s William WATSON my gg-gdfather was a blacksmith in Roseacre St which I think is very close by Loch St. 9 Church St: I have neighbourly references to 8 Church St (in 1941 and 1942), in context of Jessie Watson MORRISON(who was born illeg as Jessie Morrison WATSON, and mentioned above, the mother Margaret WATSON later marrying the father Alexander MORRISON) and her sister Jane MORRISON (who was born illeg as Jane Morrison WATSON - she married William Forbes LITTLEJOHN). In fact, it was Jessie Watson MORRISON of whom Ann SMITH (of 2 Schoolhendry St, Portsoy) said she was a cousin when she was born on 1-12-1864 in Chapel St, Ann Smith being the informant. Redhythe: Another coincidence is that an Ann SMITH age 20 (whom I think was Ann Smith above) was living at Redhythe in 1841 as a female servant. I don't know with which family - but your Taylors were there in later years. Another coincidence of names is that my Ann Smith had an illeg dau Jane Ann LITTLEJOHN born 1851 to Alexander LITTLEJOHN. I cannot fathom where Ann SMITH fits with my Watson/Morrison/Littlejohn lines. When she died in 1907 her parents were given as "George Smith general merchant (deceased) and Jane Scott ms Mitchell (deceased)" - can't identify them either. And another thing: she had a grandaughter Isabella CLARK born 2-7-1858 Schoolhendry Portsoy illeg, parents: George CLARK farm servant and Margaret MCKENZIE domestic servant. So which parent was her child, if either?! As one or two may have noticed, I'm stumped. Help! Regards Howard

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ReC.2ACI/2269.2277 Message Board Post: Would they have had a daughter named Jane Reid?

Howard, I've tweaked my database and come up with the following assumption. Given the information, this could be quite plausible but it will need more research John Riach ?ma. Isobel Adame 5 children between 1662 - 1674 son James ma. Elspeth Mortimer 3 children between 1682 - 1693 (a bit thin, he would be 20) son William ma. Marjory Gowan 6 children between 1686 - 1708 son James ma. Margaret Matheson 6 children between 1686 - 1704 The above James had possibly three children James, John and Alexander. James married Isabel Reid 14 Jun 1745 in Deskford Alexander married Janet Reid 2 Aug 1753 in Deskford William Riach and Elspeth Robertson had 8 children between 1725 - 1742 but I'm not sure who he is the son of. John Riach and Isobel Cobban had 4 children between 1735 - 1734 and again I don't know who he is the son of After this the Riach's seem to disappear from Deskford. At the same time as James Riach and Isabel Reid are making babies in Deskford, there is a James Riach and an Isabel Reid making babies in Rathven. Mostly with the same name but a few years later? Need to look at the OPR's for that one - unless you have any ideas Graham? There is still something that bugs me about John Riach (1806) on his death certificate his mother noted at Margaret Hay. There was a Margaret Hay born in the parish of Cullen on 27 Mar 1784 f. William Hay m. Janet Kemp. Howard, around 18 and 19 century there were churches around that as of this day (that I am aware of, it may have changed) have not released their records. I know that Graham Wilson, the archivist in Elgin managed to get the Catholic records - do you know if any more have been released? I may take a trip up there in the next few days. Enough for tonight, z time Regards, Sandy

Hi Howard, I have only started on this line but it makes interesting reading. The only thing I will say is that the girls gave their children middle names. From the CRE's for some of them (who survived) it relates to the father of the child. (Ill - Illegitimate). James Taylor ma. Elizabeth Bowie s. George Taylor b. 1837 ma. Helen Christie b. 1851 Ord, Banff Their children James b.1869, Andrew Christie b.1871, Henry b.1873, George b.1874, Mary Kidd b.1876, Helen b.1878, John b.1881, Elizabeth b.1882, Alexander b.1884 d.1950 unm, Margaret b. 1890, Hannah b.1891, Barbara b.1893, Charlotte b.1896 All the children were born at Redhythe Cottage, Fordyce except Hannah, Barbara and Charlotte who were born at North Mains of Durn, Portsoy. Mary Kidd Taylor had the following children; James Dow Taylor (Ill) b.1899 North Mains of Durn Maggie Farquhar Taylor (Ill) b.1901 North Mains of Durn Married George Taylor and had a son George Taylor Mary died 1939 Helen Taylor had the following children Jane Young Taylor (Ill) b.1901 died in infancy (?) 3 Loch Lane, Portsoy George Forsyth Taylor(Ill) b.1903 died in infancy 3 Loch Lane, Portsoy George Howett Taylor(Ill) b.1904 3 Loch Lane, Portsoy (went to NZ) Helen Howett Taylor(Ill) b.1908 3 Loch Lane, Portsoy Elizabeth Taylor Jessie Pirie Taylor (Ill)b.1901 3 Loch Lane Portsoy ( went to NZ) (Had a son John (Ill) b.1922 died at birth, 3 Loch Lane Portsoy) William Mitchell Taylor(Ill) b.1907 3 Loch Lane Portsoy (went to NZ) Helen McKenzie Taylor(Ill) b.1912 3 Loch Lane Portsoy CRE father George McKenzie (Decree 19 May 1920) Elizabeth died in 1952 Margaret Taylor Two girls, both (Ill) born Smiddy Boyne 1923 and 1926 (CRE for both fathers) Hannah Taylor Helen McKenzie (Ill) b.1914 CRE father William McKenzie (not sure if he was involved in WWI) 3 Loch Lane Portsoy Charlotte Taylor She had 3 girls(Ill) and 2 boys (Ill) of which have CRE's naming the fathers. 9 Church St Portsoy. Did eventually marry the father of her last child. I do have the details of Charlotte and Margaret's children born between 1914 and 1930. This was only the first pass. I have to look at the boys of the family and their grand parents yet. Regards, Sandy

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