This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ReC.2ACI/521.578 Message Board Post: i would like to make contact with any lumsden's of trinidad and tobago. wi. also of guyana. base on family information, the lumsden's of jamaica,trinidad, tobago. and guyana share a common heritage. it is this missing link i am searching for. merry christmas. and on exciteing new year to all. [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Smith, Ross, Fraser, Murray Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ReC.2ACI/252.258.259.264.267.271.785 Message Board Post: Ran across your messages responding to Brent Fraser. You seem to have more info regarding the Scottish area that I have been searching for one of my lines. My gggrandfather George Smith was B: 5 Aug 1820 in Auchenreath, Banffshire and my gggrandmother Jean (Jane) Ross B: by the River Spey and they were Married 12 Apr 1845 Free Church, Enzie, Banff. SC. There appears to be some connection through one of their parents to an Uncle named John Fraser. I have been unable to verify data on either of their parents. Jean Ross's Mother (when she was 85) came to the USA along with her son's Alexander and a John. One of the newspaper articles mentioned only her first initial "A" could be Ann??? Where would I find 'Records of the County of Banff' Spalding Aberdeen 1922 James Grant LL.B ???? It's late here so this may be confusing...

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Sutherland Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ReC.2ACI/2488 Message Board Post: My earliest Sutherland ancester in the United States was William born in Scotland in 1650 and came to America in 1684. He settled eventially in Orange Co., New York. I believe his father was Alexander Sutherland. I am told he had two brothers that came here with him. Can anyone make the connection to Scotland. I am playing with the idea that he was the son of Lord Alexander Duffus of Sutherland married to Margaret Forbes. The dates sort of fit and his situation in life, that is not rich but not poor, makes him a candidate for a younger son of a Lord. Hope for some help.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ReC.2ACI/2464.2.1.2.1.2.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Howard sorry it ook a while to reply, I'm also researching my mum's family 'Jopps of Aberdeen' my email is [email protected] speak to you soon with more info Louise

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: trail Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ReC.2ACI/1136.1406.1.1.1 Message Board Post: thanks kay, the names and dates are about right for my grandfather and grandmother, but our james trail married a meshac wharton daughter or meshac solmon, they could have went by solmon. gggrandfather came to america in 1852, and was here for the 1860 nj us census. i want to find out who meshac parents were, as well as our grandfaters james trail, born about 1835 in bombay india. i wanted to trace our trail ancestry on back as far as i can. i have hit a brick wall on james and elezabeth wharton solmon. if you run into any thing you think might connect to them, e mail me [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: JOPP Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ReC.2ACI/2484.2 Message Board Post: There was a superintendent at Aberlour Orphanage listed in the 1891 Cenus of the Parish of Aberlour in Banffshire. There was also sales of surplus clothing held at the Orphanage in the 1935 1945 era referred to as "Jopp Sales" Hope this helps! George Watt - Ottawa Canada.

Hi, Have you tried to find a marriage for George & (H)Ellen in England? I'm interested in H(Ellen) Eddie as I have "Eddie" connections in Banffshire. Jenn in BC ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 5:40 PM Subject: [Banff] George Innes > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: INNES / EDDIE > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ReC.2ACI/2487 > > Message Board Post: > > Looking for GEORGE INNES b. 1831 or 32 in Berwick upon Tweed. Married ELLEN (Helen) EDDIE c. 1855 in England. First 2 children were born in England - Eleanor 1856 and Alexander 1858. Emigrated to Canada between 58 and 60 as third child was born in Ontario - Henry b. 1860. There were 12 children in all. I cannot find the parents of either GEORGE or ELLEN, and would like to find out about any siblings. In the 1891 census in Ontario, ALEXANDER INNES b. 1818 or 19 is listed as living with the family in Draper Twp., Muskoka District. We believe this may have been a brother of GEORGE. > > > ==== SCT-BANFFSHIRE Mailing List ==== > NO Virus warnings, seasonal greetings or private 'chit-chat' on this > list! Other than that, anything pertaining to the lives and times of > those we seek goes, but MUST be kept within the List's *Golden Rule*. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: INNES / EDDIE Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ReC.2ACI/2487 Message Board Post: Looking for GEORGE INNES b. 1831 or 32 in Berwick upon Tweed. Married ELLEN (Helen) EDDIE c. 1855 in England. First 2 children were born in England - Eleanor 1856 and Alexander 1858. Emigrated to Canada between 58 and 60 as third child was born in Ontario - Henry b. 1860. There were 12 children in all. I cannot find the parents of either GEORGE or ELLEN, and would like to find out about any siblings. In the 1891 census in Ontario, ALEXANDER INNES b. 1818 or 19 is listed as living with the family in Draper Twp., Muskoka District. We believe this may have been a brother of GEORGE.

Hi James, The Church Street I mentioned is in Portsoy (the Fordyce 1881 census reference of "153-2" is Portsoy village). I have references (at various times) to family staying at these locations in Church St Portsoy: nos 7,8,9,11,12,15,16,36, 50,54 and various unnumbered. The Church St in Fordyce doesn't seem to have been numbered in the records I have, being for 1901 and 1933 (the latter may be to Elmbank, which I think is actually East Church St). There's also been family-owned cottages named Hawthorn Cottage, The Yardies and Roseau which may be West Church St rather than Church St. Sandy Riach says (see recent posting) that the numbers in Church St changed over the years, so I wouldn't know at present how to relate a specific number at a specific date to a specific dwelling. Regards Howard

Hi Howard Thanks for the information,not sure yet if this is my Campbell and Mckenzie. I am waiting for marriage certificates then I'll know a bit more. Is the Church Street you refer to in Fordyce or Portsoy as there is a Church Street in both these places. My grandmother Christina Campbell was born in Church Street Portsoy and on my mother's birth certificate it gives her father James Lyall's domicil as 9 Church Street Fordyce. regards James Brown

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Fetch, Gray, Lobban Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ReC.2ACI/1975.1967.1972.1987.1991 Message Board Post: John Fetch marr. Jannet Gray (1781). I've found Jannet's parents to be John Gray/Janet Lobban. Another of their children was James Gray (bap. 6.10.1742 at Grange). Is this your James Gray who marr. Jean Fetch? Have you managed to find anymore information on your line? My website is www.angelfire.com/realm/ggperry/ Glenn

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ReC.2ACI/1136.1406.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi there, My james trail came to New Zealand in 1865 and settled in the Auckland area. In 1851 census his wife was living in Glenmuick Abedeenshire with her mother elizabeth anderson. She was a soldiers wife. I have no idea at this stage where james was. kay davies

Hi Howard, Loch Lane, I think is next to Roseacre Street and Loch Street. Durn Road is along from them and then its the Cullen Road (A98). It does exist as my father and my grandmothers cousin can testify. It leads down to Loch Soy. I am going to visit there tomorrow and take a few photo's I will also be visiting other addresses that I have links with. I know that Church Street numbers have changed and I'm going to try and get a copy of an old town plan (if they still exist). I need a look at the 1901 census also and that will be a visit to Elgin. From the CRE, I have found from the NAS that Elizabeth TAYLOR and George MCKENZIE were both working at Upper Blairock, Deskford in 1910-1911. There is also a William MCKENZIE father to Hannah TAYLOR's illegitimate daughter, Helen, could be related to the above George? I'll have look out for the other bits a pieces you have mentioned below. I have another for you, Elizabeth, my ggrandmother had another son, who went to New Zealand, by the name of William MITCHELL TAYLOR. He went there with his sister Jessie PIRIE TAYLOR and his cousin George TAYLOR. The went to North Island around Rotorua. I have been speaking to a cousin of my grandmother who gave me this information. I don't know if any of the listers can put me in touch with Elizabeth Lusby who is out there? Howard, I'll send you some photo's off list. Regards, Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Geddes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 9:48 AM Subject: [Banff] Re: TAYLOR - Fordyce and Portsoy, plus WATSON, LITTLEJOHN, MORRISON, SMITH, CLARK, MCKENZIE, MITCHELL > Hi Sandy. > > I have only started on this line but it makes interesting reading. The > > only thing I will say is that the girls gave their children middle > > names. From the CRE's for some of them (who survived) it relates to > > the father of the child. (Ill - Illegitimate). > It certainly does make interesting reading. That's quite a family! > > I can't see any connections with my line, but a couple of the addresses are > interesting. Perhaps someone on the list may elucidate. I also chucked in > some surnames to see if any ring any bells: > > 3 Loch Lane: in 1881, I can only find Loch Street in Portsoy, the only Loch > Lane being in Boyndie. Do you know where Loch Lane was in Portsoy? Sounds to > me as though it would be an offshoot off Loch St. My modern map has neither. > One of 'mine', Jessie MORRISON, was in Loch St in 1881 as a dom serv, and in > the 1840s William WATSON my gg-gdfather was a blacksmith in Roseacre St > which I think is very close by Loch St. > > 9 Church St: I have neighbourly references to 8 Church St (in 1941 and > 1942), in context of Jessie Watson MORRISON(who was born illeg as Jessie > Morrison WATSON, and mentioned above, the mother Margaret WATSON later > marrying the father Alexander MORRISON) and her sister Jane MORRISON (who > was born illeg as Jane Morrison WATSON - she married William Forbes > LITTLEJOHN). In fact, it was Jessie Watson MORRISON of whom Ann SMITH (of 2 > Schoolhendry St, Portsoy) said she was a cousin when she was born on > 1-12-1864 in Chapel St, Ann Smith being the informant. > > Redhythe: Another coincidence is that an Ann SMITH age 20 (whom I think was > Ann Smith above) was living at Redhythe in 1841 as a female servant. I don't > know with which family - but your Taylors were there in later years. Another > coincidence of names is that my Ann Smith had an illeg dau Jane Ann > LITTLEJOHN born 1851 to Alexander LITTLEJOHN. > > I cannot fathom where Ann SMITH fits with my Watson/Morrison/Littlejohn > lines. When she died in 1907 her parents were given as "George Smith general > merchant (deceased) and Jane Scott ms Mitchell (deceased)" - can't identify > them either. And another thing: she had a grandaughter Isabella CLARK born > 2-7-1858 Schoolhendry Portsoy illeg, parents: George CLARK farm servant and > Margaret MCKENZIE domestic servant. So which parent was her child, if > either?! > > As one or two may have noticed, I'm stumped. Help! > > Regards Howard > > > ==== SCT-BANFFSHIRE Mailing List ==== > ----------> ALL CAPS or UPPER CASE Letters Permissible Use <---------- > When typing a surname? YES! Absolutely! A must! For general text? NO! > It's shouting, bad manners (Netiquette) and hard to find surnames. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Sutherland Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ReC.2ACI/115.118.2 Message Board Post: My first ancester in USA was William Sutherland I. He came here in 1684 with two brothers I understand. Could this be any relation. Thanks.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ReC.2ACI/2481.2.2 Message Board Post: I have a Jane Watson, born 05.03.1868 at Rathven, father was George Watson and mother Jane Watson m.s. Donaldson. Is this your line?

Hi James. Their marriage certificate should tell you their respective parents. My interest in this is through Mary F Murphy (see below), since I have an Alexander Murphy / Elspet Geddes family and Murphy is not a common name in the immediate area, and she and William Murphy are just about the only two outwith 'my' Murphy line; furthermore the names Robertson and McKenzie and Morrison and even Nicol all turn up in my search for my early Robertson/Moir/Geddes/Watson in Portsoy. What can you add? This is surely Angus Campbell in 1881: Dwelling: School Hendry, Fordyce (Portsoy), Banff, Scotland Volume 153-2 EnumDist 4 Page 31 Catherine NICOL M 41 F Inverness Wife (Head) Ag Labs Wife Betsy MORRISON U 16 F Inverness Dau Dom Ser * Mary F. MURPHY 9 F Portsoy, Banff Dau Scholar * John NICOL 2 M Portsoy, Banff Son * Robert ROBERTSON U 29 M England Bord Plumber Angus CAMPBELL 25 M Duthil, Inverness Bord Ag Lab Might this be Isabella McKenzie in 1881? Dwelling: Church Street, Fordyce (Portsoy), Banff, Scotland Volume 153-2 EnumDist 3 Page 24 Isabella MC KENZIE U 31 F Portsoy, Banff Head Dom Serv Alexander R. MC KENZIE U 13 M Portsoy, Banff Son Scholar ** George ROBERTSON 6 M Portsoy, Banff Son Scholar ** Isabella G. MCKENZIE 3 F Portsoy, Banff Dau * Elizabeth Morrison was born 17-11-1865 Inverness to Donald Morrison and Catherine McIntosh, who married 22-5-1857 Knockbain, Ross&Cromarty. (So there must be other children - not checked.) * Mary Flora Murphy was born 4-2-1872 Fordyce to William Murphy and Catherine McIntosh, who married 10-12-1866 Keith (as William Murphy and Catherine Morison). As William Murphy and Catherine McIntosh they had two other children: Catherine Murphy 12-5-1867 Keith and Forbes Murphy 11-2-1868 Fordyce (presumably Portsoy). * It would seem that Catherine McIntosh married a third time, this time to a Nicol, and had another son. ** Alexander Ross McKenzie was born 6-2-1868 Fordyce to Isabella McKenzie, therefore I presume illeg. ** George Robertson was born 18-8-1874 Fordyce to Hugh Robertson and Isabella McKenzie, also presumably illeg for I have not found a marriage and I reckon the father turns up unmarried in 1881 boarding in Old Deer. Regards Howard Geddes

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Geddes, Wood, Mair Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ReC.2ACI/2464.2.1.2.1.2.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Louise. I was indeed in Portknockie in 2000, when Davie Mair helped me find the wreck of my gt-gduncle James Watson's ship in the sand in Cullen Harbour, and I was in Cullen Cemetery talking to a Bob Geddes who was tending the area and very kindly brought out the Burial Register so I could find said James Watson's grave and MI. But I don't recall any visit to or meeting in Portknockie Cemetery! I don't have records of any of the people you mention. If I'm right James Geddes Wood and Caroline Mair appear in the 1881 census - he is a fisherman, born as James Wood on 28-1-1842 Portknockie to John Wood and Helen Wood. Since all my Geddes folks are farmfolk, I'm wondering if you're mistaking me for someone else?! Can you expand a bit - I simply cannot see any linkage at present and am certainly curious. By the way, I tried to e-mail you off-board but it bounced as being undeliverable. Regards Howard

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Donaldsons of Fordyce Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ReC.2ACI/2481.2.1 Message Board Post: Thank you Alan Davidson,it does appear we are connected how nice of youto respond,with me being so far across the pond it makes it difficult trying to tie up the different members of the family.. Alan I would appreciate if you would enlighten with the Donaldson clan. You mentioned reading my inquiry about Russell/Packman Im trying to solve that one with no success. If you like Alan you can e-mail me at [email protected] Trust you and your family are well Best Regards Margaret

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ReC.2ACI/2486 Message Board Post: I apologize for being a newbie here. Am slowly putting things together. Are there any kind souls back in the Glasgow area that could help me? My great grandfather's name was Adam Wright. He had a son (David James), with his...girlfriend, I guess...Sophia Crawford, in Govan, Plantation District. I found an Adam born in Banff District 1-18-1876. My grandfather told me his dad died at sea. I found a death certificate for an Adam Wright in 1914...marine returns. The numbers add up, however, I'm not sure if this Adam Wright is my great grandfather or not, because I didn't see any birthdates for him on either my Grandpa David's bith cert, OR, the death cert for Adam. Having some additional info on Adam's birthdate would tie everything together. Thanks

Grateful for any information on Angus Campbell married Isabella McKenzie on the 29th April 1881 in Portsoy. They may have stayed in Church Street Portsoy in 1884 James.