Dear Col Many thanks for this information. Every bit helps to complete the picture. What a shame it was demolished. I'd love to have seen it. I'm busy acquiring information and wills left by Robert's descendants in an attempt to locate any living today. I'm descended from Robert's brother. Again many thanks Lori Australia -----Original Message----- From: CaledonC@aol.com [mailto:CaledonC@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 6:44 PM To: SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ARGYLL] North Bar(r) In a message dated 11/09/02 23:21:47 GMT Daylight Time, SCT-ARGYLL-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > Does Northbar still exist? I understand it was a mansion-like house in it's > day. Also, where exactly is/was it? > Groome's Gazetteer ( 1883 ) listsNorth Barr as being in Inchinnan in Renfrewshire " The estate of North Barr was purchased originally in 1670 by Donald McGilchrist who claimed descent from the Lord of Tarbert of Robert the Bruce's time . Part of it passed to the family of Balfour but the greater part was in 1741 acquired by Lord Semphill .An old baronial fortalice on it has since been demolished . " Col frae Crieff