----- Original Message ----- From: "Greenwood" <scotquester@bartnet.net> To: <SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 2:48 AM Subject: {not a subscriber} Livingston/e relatives galore ! > Keith - have gathered quite a bit of data on this family from the Indexes for BMDs in Scotland. > Filming of the actual registration certs ended in 1875, with only 1881 and 1891 as later filmed > years. What I have found is from Index hits only. With Kilfilan as the Parish, there seems to have > been at least 2 separate families in that parish during the child-rearing years. I started with the > names you sent and found many others living in the same parish. Certainly they were related. > Census returns will tell a lot more of the story. Someone can surely send you the 1881 Census hits > for this family. I'd log onto ScotlandsPeople.com and get the census hits for 1891 and even 1901. > If you are near a Family History Center, the films for the 1891 census of Kilfinan can be ordered. > It is parish number 518. You will need this number if you order Kilfilan BMDs online, or if you find > a Researcher to do the same for you. Be mindful that a Researcher can charge you a lot less than > ordering these certs from the GRO. > > The BMD books are arranged by DATE of REGISTRATION, not date of event. A December event may not be > registered until Jan of the next year. Usually this Registration was done within a week of the B, M > or D, but that wasn't always the case. This explains why an event found below in the Indexes seems > to be in the wrong year. You may have the event date right, but it wasn't Registered until after > Jan 1 of the new year. The date of the actual B, M or D is on the individual Registration entry > [also called the Certificate]. > > You will see LivingstoN and LivingstonE for the same family. > > Marriages > 1875, John LIVINGSTON, Kilfinan #5. > 1875, Christina McLEAN, Kilfinan #5. > > Deaths > 1870, none in Kilfilan > 1871, Jane LIVINGSTON, 28, Kilfinan #2 > 1872-76, none in Kilfilan > 1877, Donald LIVINGSTON, 11, Kilfinan #18 > 1878, none in Kilfilan > 1879, Allan LIVINGSTON, 0, Kilfinan #20 > 1879, Catherine LIVINGSTON, 43, Kilfinan #50 > 1880 & 81, none in Kilfilan > 1882, Robert LIVINGSTON, 55, Kilfinan #17 > 1883, Dugald LIVINGSTON, 62, Kilfilan #12 > 1883, Margaret Martin LIVINGSTON, 1, Kilfilan #25 > No more deaths in Kilfinan for LIVINGSTON through 1891. > > Births [more than 1 family here] > 1871, Agnes Young LIVINGSTON, Kilfinan #2 > > <skipped to near marriage year, 1875> > 1875, John LIVINGSTON, Kilfilan #53 > 1876, none > 1877, Christina Weir LIVINGSTON, Kilfilan #21 > 1878, John, Kilfilan #29 [or perhaps #20] > 1879, Allan LIVINGSTON, Kilfilan #22 > 1879, Annie LIVINGSTON, Kilfilan #3 > 1880, none > 1881, Alexander LIVINGSTON, Kilfillan #9 > 1881, Jane Hunter LIVINGSTON, Kilfilan #39 > 1882, Janet LIVINGSTONE, Kilfillan #43 Twin ? > 1882, John LIVINGSTONE, Kilfilan #42 Twin ? > 1883, Margaret Martin LIVINGSTON, Kilfilan # 37 > 1884, Nicole Duncan LIVINGSTON, Kilfilan #21 > 1885, Duncan LIVINGSTONE, Kilfilan # 1 > 1885, Margaret Martin LIVINGSTONE, Kilfilan #48 > 1886, none > 1887, Annie Margaret LIVINGSTONE, Kilfilan #38 > 1887, Robert LIVINGSTON, Kilfilan #48 > 1888, none > 1889, none > 1890, Emma Henderson LIVINGSTON, Kilfilan #1 > 1891, none > 1892, Archibald Douglas LIVINGSTON, Kilfilan #14 > no more found until I ceased looking at the end of 1895. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Note the Weir middle name for the 1877 Birth of Christina ! This indicates that perhaps WEIR is a > surname from a previous generation. Occasionally I note it occuring as an 'honor' to a local church > figure or a well known doctor, etc. to have someone's child named after them. > > All 8 children you mentioned are noted above, have to wonder if there was ONE other family or TWO ? > Too many dates conflict for this to be one Huge family. > > You can order the films for Argyllshire into the local FHC if you wish, but only for 1875 Births, > and 1875 Marriages along with 1871 Marriages and the 2 1881 Births. The rest were not filmed and > will probably remain unfilmed. > > I hope you can sift through the bundle of LIVINGSTONs here, reply if I can clarify anything. > > Meg Greenwood in Oklahoma, USA > > Original Message : > I am still trying to trace various family members. My grandmother Agnes > Young Kelshaw , nee Livingston, was born in Kilfinian, Argylshire in 1870. > She was the last child of her mother Jean Hunter Livingston. Her mother died > shortly after her birth. Her father remarried five years later to Christina > MacLean. My grandmother was raised by her stepmother whom she adored. > Christina MacLean Livingston bore eight children, John, Christina, Jeanie, > Margaret, Anne, Robert, Emma, and Archie. > <snip> > Thanks, Keith Thomas >