Not so common nowadays but one alternative might be McIlwham. J McPherson ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 6:01 AM Subject: SCT-ARGYLL Digest, Vol 1, Issue 59 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Name Change Query McILOHOIM - McILAHOIMBIE - McIHERVIE To > LAMONT ? (david and lesley) > 2. Re: Name Change Query McILOHOIM - McILAHOIMBIE - McIHERVIE > ToLAMONT ? (a.stevenson) > 3. Re: Name Change Query McILOHOIM - McILAHOIMBIE - McIHERVIE > ToLAMONT ? (roderick) > 4. Re: Name Change Query McILOHOIM - McILAHOIMBIE - > McIHERVIEToLAMONT ? (david and lesley) > 5. Re: Name Change Query McILOHOIM - McILAHOIMBIE - > McIHERVIEToLAMONT ? (david and lesley) > 6. Re: Name Change Query McILOHOIM - McILAHOIMBIE > -McIHERVIEToLAMONT ? (a.stevenson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 21:28:06 +1100 > From: "david and lesley" <[email protected]> > Subject: [ARGYLL] Name Change Query McILOHOIM - McILAHOIMBIE - > McIHERVIE To LAMONT ? > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I am hoping someone with greater experience in the intricacies of Scottish > name changes/anglicising etc, could advise the likelihood of any of the > surnames McILOHOIM, McILAHOIMBIE, McHERVIE being an earlier version of > the > surname LAMONT. > I have just discovered that the parents of Sarah McNEIL were John McNeil > and > Flora LAMONT of North Knapdale. Whilst I have found one child of the > marriage on IGI (More McNeil in 1793), a John McNeil and Flora > McIlohoim/McIlahoimbie/McHervie were having children in the parish from > 1784. Is it possible it is the same couple, or am I way off base here?? > > Also, on the same theme..... is there another name interchanged with the > given names FLORA and MORE?? > > Thanks for any suggestions!! > > Regards > > Lesley > Melbourne, Australia > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 22:00:54 +1100 > From: "a.stevenson" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Name Change Query McILOHOIM - McILAHOIMBIE - > McIHERVIE ToLAMONT ? > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I have Janet McNEILL m. Allan McNABB in 1855 in the Parish of Abbey > Landward, County of Renfrew. Janet's parents were Alexander McNEILL & > Helen > HURT but I don't know where they came from only that Janet was born in May > 1829 in Eaglesham. Sandy (Wagga x 2) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "david and lesley" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:28 PM > Subject: [ARGYLL] Name Change Query McILOHOIM - McILAHOIMBIE - McIHERVIE > ToLAMONT ? > > >>I am hoping someone with greater experience in the intricacies of Scottish >> name changes/anglicising etc, could advise the likelihood of any of the >> surnames McILOHOIM, McILAHOIMBIE, McHERVIE being an earlier version of >> the >> surname LAMONT. >> I have just discovered that the parents of Sarah McNEIL were John McNeil >> and >> Flora LAMONT of North Knapdale. Whilst I have found one child of the >> marriage on IGI (More McNeil in 1793), a John McNeil and Flora >> McIlohoim/McIlahoimbie/McHervie were having children in the parish from >> 1784. Is it possible it is the same couple, or am I way off base here?? >> >> Also, on the same theme..... is there another name interchanged with the >> given names FLORA and MORE?? >> >> Thanks for any suggestions!! >> >> Regards >> >> Lesley >> Melbourne, Australia >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 22:07:01 +1100 > From: "roderick" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Name Change Query McILOHOIM - McILAHOIMBIE - > McIHERVIE ToLAMONT ? > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Lesley > My Gaelic isn't sufficiently advanced to make sense of that surname. But > re > the given names, Flory is an alternative to Flora, and More is a > mispelling > of Moire pronounced "moyra" (very loosely!) being the gaelic for Mary. > Hope this helps > Rod > Trentham Australia > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "david and lesley" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:28 PM > Subject: [ARGYLL] Name Change Query McILOHOIM - McILAHOIMBIE - McIHERVIE > ToLAMONT ? > > >>I am hoping someone with greater experience in the intricacies of Scottish >> name changes/anglicising etc, could advise the likelihood of any of the >> surnames McILOHOIM, McILAHOIMBIE, McHERVIE being an earlier version of >> the >> surname LAMONT. >> I have just discovered that the parents of Sarah McNEIL were John McNeil >> and >> Flora LAMONT of North Knapdale. Whilst I have found one child of the >> marriage on IGI (More McNeil in 1793), a John McNeil and Flora >> McIlohoim/McIlahoimbie/McHervie were having children in the parish from >> 1784. Is it possible it is the same couple, or am I way off base here?? >> >> Also, on the same theme..... is there another name interchanged with the >> given names FLORA and MORE?? >> >> Thanks for any suggestions!! >> >> Regards >> >> Lesley >> Melbourne, Australia >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 09:45:33 +1100 > From: "david and lesley" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Name Change Query McILOHOIM - McILAHOIMBIE - > McIHERVIEToLAMONT ? > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Rod, > > Thanks for your response. > > I will note both the options of Flory and Mary for future reference! > > I was also doing a bit of 'surfing' when I came across a site which lists > the angicised alternatives to Gaelic first names. > They had a listing for MOR as being a female name [ Gaelic for 'Great'] > which was most commonly anglicised to Sarah. As this was in fact the name > of my gggrandmother, I think I may have (happily) stumbled on to her > actual > baptismal record!! > > Regards > > Lesley > Melbourne, Australia > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 10:04:44 +1100 > From: "david and lesley" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Name Change Query McILOHOIM - McILAHOIMBIE - > McIHERVIEToLAMONT ? > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Sandy, > > the couple I originally queried about certainly had a son named Alexander > bap 7 April 1787 in North Knapdale parish Argyll. In fact my Sarah named > one > of her sons Alexander in 1826. HOWEVER, Alexander is a fairly common name, > and I'm sure there would be hundreds of Alexander McNeills in the > appropriate time frame all over Scotland. > If Alexander and Helen were still alive at the time of Janet's wedding, > there is an extremely good chance that their deaths will be included in > the > Statutory Records (ie:Death certificates issued), which are available > online > with scotlandspeople. This is a fantastic site, and the information > included > on them is much better than the English ones. If your Alexander is on > there, > it will include his both his parents names. This site also has the > Scottish > census's so if you can find Alexander on any of these (and Janet certainly > would be on the 1851 census) it will give you a good indication of where > he > was born. > > Hope this is of some help > > Regards > > Lesley > Melbourne, Australia > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 10:26:39 +1100 > From: "a.stevenson" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Name Change Query McILOHOIM - McILAHOIMBIE > -McIHERVIEToLAMONT ? > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Thank you for replying, I'll try Scotland's People as that's where I found > their names on Janet's wedding certificate. Sandy (Wagga x 2) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "david and lesley" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 10:04 AM > Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Name Change Query McILOHOIM - > McILAHOIMBIE -McIHERVIEToLAMONT ? > > >> Hi Sandy, >> >> the couple I originally queried about certainly had a son named Alexander >> bap 7 April 1787 in North Knapdale parish Argyll. In fact my Sarah named >> one >> of her sons Alexander in 1826. HOWEVER, Alexander is a fairly common >> name, >> and I'm sure there would be hundreds of Alexander McNeills in the >> appropriate time frame all over Scotland. >> If Alexander and Helen were still alive at the time of Janet's wedding, >> there is an extremely good chance that their deaths will be included in >> the >> Statutory Records (ie:Death certificates issued), which are available >> online >> with scotlandspeople. This is a fantastic site, and the information >> included >> on them is much better than the English ones. If your Alexander is on >> there, >> it will include his both his parents names. This site also has the >> Scottish >> census's so if you can find Alexander on any of these (and Janet >> certainly >> would be on the 1851 census) it will give you a good indication of where >> he >> was born. >> >> Hope this is of some help >> >> Regards >> >> Lesley >> Melbourne, Australia >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the SCT-ARGYLL list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the SCT-ARGYLL mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of SCT-ARGYLL Digest, Vol 1, Issue 59 > ***************************************** > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.16/552 - Release Date: > 26/11/2006 11:30 > >

Thanks Jim. They seem incredibly unusual names to start with in the first place. They were given as the maiden name of the wife of John McNEIL on the IGI site. I have done google searches on all of the variations, and not one hit!! A look at the original register might be enlightening...I think I may have to order the film!! Regards Lesley Melbourne, Australia