Thank you.My computer crashed and I' thought I had lost it all but had help recovering.My new address is now _Deerfieldborn@GMAIL.COM_ (mailto:Deerfieldborn@GMAIL.COM) Peggy In a message dated 2/24/2008 4:09:08 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, sct-argyll-request@rootsweb.com writes: Today's Topics: 1. Re: can anyone help me with this John Montgomery family, please? (Katie de Haan) 2. Re: SCT-ARGYLL Digest, Vol 3, Issue 27 (ARTISTINSC@aol.com) 3. Montgomery Campbell /Perthshire/Caithness (Katie de Haan) 4. Currie/McKellar Cemetary Markers (Karen Oliver) 5. John Campbell born C 1800 Argyllshire (Barbara Gurney) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 09:05:14 +0100 From: "Katie de Haan" <gallorosso@home.nl> Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] can anyone help me with this John Montgomery family, please? To: <sct-argyll@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <004401c875f2$d1cfc890$b07ba8c0@medion> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hello, >From your mail it's unclear who you are and what you want help with on 'this John Montgomery family' from the 1861 census, so I can only guess. There's enough information on that 1861 census return alone to point you in the right direction. As I read it, it is not the Montgomerie family, but the Keddie family in Peebles: John and Martha Keddie and their daughter Ann and a servant. Nephew John is also in the house, an apprentice flesher born Strachur c 1846. If you want to know more about John's background, the 1851 census for Strachur shows the Montgomery family in Clachan Strachur, grandfather William Montgomery head 75 born Perthshire, Dugald and Jane Montgomery son and daughter in law, children Dugald, John and William aged 3, 7 and 5, and a servant Margaret Kerr 15. It gives Clachan Strachur as the address, but does indicate that that William and Dugald the elder were smiths, so the smithy is a likely spot. In 1861, the couple who would seem to be John's parents, Dugald and Jane Montgomery, are still at Clachan Strachur with several of their children, but Dugald is now recorded as Postmaster; John is absent but has clearly moved on to Peebles. Then: the IGI turns up marriage proclamations for :- John Keddie and Martha Montgomery in Peebles and Strachur in July/August 1837 Dugald Montgomery and Jane McKenzie at Strachur March 1840; I imagine there's a fair chance these are John's parents. Much of this information can be verified and expanded by viewing the records on sites like Scotland's People and Ancestry.co.uk. And, to this day, I believe there are Montgomerys in the Strachur area who are or have been connected with the Smithy and Post Office . You can probably find out more about the locations and the buildings on the internet. The documents alone will give plenty of scope for following the fortunes of these and related families. Happy hunting! Katie de Haan The Netherlands MCVEAN SINCLAIR MCKELLAR CLARK MITCHELL MCINTYRE Argyll, Renfrew > LKS MCCALLUM MUNRO BEATON BETHUNE ROSS: Sutherland, Ross & Cromarty > LKS MCCALLUM Perthshire 1700s BEATON BETHUNE Skye pre 1670 KING PALMER LANGSTONE CARR POKINS HUTT Oxon/Berks UK KING JACKSON WEEDON Middlesex/London City/East End UK THACKWELL KEAT Worcs/Oxon/Berks/ ----- Original Message ----- From: <ARTISTINSC@aol.com> To: <sct-argyll@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 7:52 AM Subject: [ARGYLL] can anyone help me with this John Montgomery family,please? ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 03:18:45 EST From: ARTISTINSC@aol.com Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] SCT-ARGYLL Digest, Vol 3, Issue 27 To: sct-argyll@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <d09.2bdd851a.34f130e5@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Does this Campbell family have hurso,Caithness roots? My John Montgomery ,Strachur,Argyll, married a Barbara Allan Campbell born in Caithness and I wonder how they met. Peggy in SC,USA In a message dated 2/23/2008 3:11:24 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, sct-argyll-request@rootsweb.com writes: christineculling wrote: > I have John Campbell born in Argyle in 1804 the son of Alexander > Campbell of > Killin. > He was a farmer at Cabrachen,Loch Nell,Argyll. > Chris in Melbourne **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duff y/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 09:34:33 +0100 From: "Katie de Haan" <gallorosso@home.nl> Subject: [ARGYLL] Montgomery Campbell /Perthshire/Caithness To: <sct-argyll@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <005801c875f6$ea870160$b07ba8c0@medion> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Ah, so it's Peggy, One more thing, and then I'll get off your case :-) You wonder how John Montgomery met his wife who came from Caithness. I had similar questions about my ancestors in Perthshire it may be worth bearing the following in mind. Mine were from Perthshire but went through Ross-shire and mid 1800s they were in Sutherland at the Caithness border. I was curious until I realised that all the places they settled or stayed were crucial points along the cattle droving roads: most of them were cattle drovers, dealers and fleshers. I noted that your John Montgomery maybe came from a family of smiths, but he by 1861 he was an apprentice flesher/butcher/cattle man in Perthshire. There was amazing mobility up and down these drove roads. No guarantees, but a fair chance these trails may have had something to do with John's meeting his wife from Caithness. Census returns and old parish records may tell you more about the movements of your families and it's amazing how they got around, especially these cattle people, even if they were more settled as the nineteenth century proceeded. Enjoy the trail, Katie de Haan The Netherlands ----- Original Message -- From: <ARTISTINSC@aol.com> To: <sct-argyll@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] SCT-ARGYLL Digest, Vol 3, Issue 27 > Does this Campbell family have hurso,Caithness roots? My John Montgomery > ,Strachur,Argyll, married a Barbara Allan Campbell born in Caithness and > I > wonder how they met. > > Peggy in SC,USA > In a message dated 2/23/2008 3:11:24 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > sct-argyll-request@rootsweb.com writes: > christineculling wrote: >> I have John Campbell born in Argyle in 1804 > the son of Alexander >Campbell of >Killin. He was a farmer at > Cabrachen,Loch Nell,Argyll. Chris in Melbourne ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:42:51 -0500 From: "Karen Oliver" <koliver-@msn.com> Subject: [ARGYLL] Currie/McKellar Cemetary Markers To: <sct-argyll@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <BLU136-DAV66022D27F592285B854DA881F0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" My name is Karen Buttery-Oliver. I live in Michigan. I have just started my research on my tree. Many of my grandfather's relatives were from Rothesay, Bute, Scotland. So I am looking for the older cemeteries in the Bute area. I had listed a Kilmichael cemetery?? Has anyone heard of the Kilmichael cemetery?? Has anyone been there? I am looking for Curries, McKellar's Colin Currie's mother was Elizabeth McKellar born abt. 1845 died 25 Feb 1909 Rothesay. Her parents were: Elizabeth Currie born 18 Jan 1814, in Kilmichael, Bute, Scotland died 15 April 1885 North Bute, Scotland. Elizabeth Currie married Duncan McKellar born: 12 Jan 1818 in Kilfinan, Argyle, Scotland. Duncan McKellar belonged to Kintyre. He had a coal boat and a fishing boat and lived at the Straad, north of the island. I found out that in 7 Feb 1856 he had drowned with one of his sons, while in his boat. There was a dangerous current between the Straad and Inchmarnock. He died off Inchmarnock North Bute. I am trying to find their cemetery markers. Hope I did not confuse you. Thanks for your time. -:?:- Karen Buttery Oliver:?:- Commerce,Michigan -:?:- ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 14:30:14 +1100 From: "Barbara Gurney" <blgurney@iinet.net.au> Subject: [ARGYLL] John Campbell born C 1800 Argyllshire To: <SCT-ARGYLL@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000001c87695$9225bad0$7a17a8c0@home98583478> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Thank you to those Listers who replied to my query about the family origins and Craignish connections of my G G Grandfather John Archibald Campbell. I am no further ahead, but I forgot to mention in my first email that we have copies of letters written by him from London less than 2 weeks either side of the 1871 Census. This man is so elusive, I cannot find him anywhere in the UK census and I have tried searching under soundex for surname and various spellings and combinations of Christian names. My search (and searches by other contacts in London) cannot find him and he is not listed at the address given on his letters. We have searched all of the records for 1871 in England, Scotland and vessels as we know he was also visiting Scotland during his travels that year. I have also searched through Ancestry.com all the UK census records. Can any lister offer any suggestions where to from here? Thanks Barbara Gurney No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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