Hello, Alison What sort of information are you looking for and do you already have all the census information on the family? I ask because there are (at least) two James Litsters indexed in the Dunoon area on the 1891 census, one said to be born c1809 and one c1869. Which one was an elder and died in 1892, I wonder, so if you have any more information at all, it might be easier to narrow him down. James LITSTER b c1809 at Tollcross Lanarkshire is living on private means at Clover Bank Dunoon with daughters Agnes 33 and Isabella M 30 James LITSTER b c1869 is a joiner b Bridgeton Lanarkshire, living at Kirn Bank Cottage with his mother Margaret S Litster 64 born Cathcart Renfrew The only William LITSTERs I see even vaguely in the area are visitors to Inverchaolain, also from Glasgow, one aged 29 a wine merchant with the Hamilton family at Inverchaolain Shooting Lodge with wife Margaret and their five-month old son, also born Glasgow. I suppose it's possible that William the elder and James the younger were brothers. This is only from an initial perusal of the 1891 census index. If you could say whether any of these is 'your' LITSTER family, then I could delve further later on. HTH Katie de Haan The Netherlands ----- Original Message --From: "Roland & Alison deCaen" <decaenr@shaw.ca>To: <SCT-ARGYLL@rootsweb.com>Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 4:16 PM Subject: [ARGYLL] LITSTER IN KIRN-DUNOON AREA Looking for any information on the LITSTER family who lived in or around Dunoon & Kirn. James Litster was an elder in the church at Dunoon He died in 1892. His brother William also lived in the area. Their descendents were there until the late 1900s Alison
Alison, Further to my earlier mail trying to find the James LITSTER about whom you asked, here is what else I saw on LITSTERs in Dunoon. I first thought that the fact that James the Younger's mother Margaret was with him both times suggested he is not the same immediate family of James the Elder. A cousin at the most. (However, this query is resolved further down as you will see.) 1891 James LITSTER the Younger b c1869 is a joiner b Bridgeton Lanarkshire, living at Kirn Bank Cottage with mother Margaret S Litster 64 b Cathcart RFW. In 1901, this James is at Shore Road, Kirn Bank Cottage his mother is still there 76, but he has married Martha Cumming 24 b Grangemouth Stirlingshire and has two children Margaret S Litster 2 and Alexr C Lister under 1 month. 1891 James LITSTER the Elder b c1809 at Tollcross Lanarkshire is living on private means at Clover Bank Dunoon with daughters Agnes 33 and Isabella M 30 In 1901 none of this family group appear in Dunoon, which is not surprising if this was the James who died in 1892. 1891 See my last mail and above. 1881 James the Elder is at Shore, Clover Bank Dunoon, recorded as a house factor from Glasgow LKS. With him are Mrs. Litster 60 William Litster 33 Music Teacher b Glasgow Agnes 23 a Music Teacher b Kirn Isabella 20 and Fraser C Litster 5 grandson b Aberdeen City 1871 Not found James the Elder yet. Aha! Mystery of missing brother solved: in 1871, this is James the Younger at the same address age 3, with his parents Margaret Litster 45 and WILLIAM LITSTER 70, so this could be the brother of James the Elder. Wm is from Jobcross [sic] Lanark, (which is probably Tolcross as for James the Elder in 1891). 1861 Strange, James the Elder may be weirdly indexed in 71, because in 1861 they are there are 44 Sea Shore Dunoon as follows: James Litster 52 agent Mary Litster 40 William Litster 13 Ellen Litster 7 Agnes Litster 3 Isabella M Litster 1 mo (Agnes & Isabella born Kirn, the others including Ellen all Glasgow). In 1851 the family appears to be at 4 Dale Street Calton Lanarkshire with a couple more children who may or may not have survived James Litster 42 spirit dealer Mary Litster 33 Mary Litster 14 servant William Litster 3 Robert Litster 8 months Not far away at 136 Dalmarnock Road Calton, is a William Litster 50 b Tolcross, 'spins' merchant (another spirit merchant perhaps?' Helen 32 James 19 Helen 17 Wm 14 James 12 George 7 Elizabeth Douglas [Puzzling/intriguing index; might be interesting to see the original in an attempt to track down who's whose child and whether they are the family you are trying to trace. And if James 12 is the guy with Mother Margaret at the end of the century, in Dunoon, where is she now?] 1841 First I thought I couldn't find them in 1841, but this has to be the same household: James LITSTER 30 a Sp Deal in Dale Street Margaret Litster 30 and James LITSTER 6 months. I don't know when you'll see this, but I hope you can work out whether and which if any of these are the family in which you are interested, Alison. And how many wives James the Elder had and which children they mothered... If you're interested, the statutory records will doubtless tell you more. Happy hunting, Katie de Haan The Netherlands