Sheila, More info for you. The Mary is obviously an earlier child who didn't survive. I couldn't find any of these people on Ancestry's 1861 census index. The 1851 census is from the Ancestry index. If you want the image you would need to get it off http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk Dunchagaig, Glassary, Argyll - Parish 511 ED 2 Page 21 Household 57 Line 7 Archd McKirdy 41 Head Ploughman b. Kilmartin Cathr McKirdy 34 Sister House Servant b. Kilmartin James McKirdy 12 Son Scholar b. Kilmartin Janet McKirdy 36 Wife b. Kilmartin Margt McKirdy 74 Mother Labourer's widow b. Kilmartin Mary McKirdy 10 Dau Scholar b. Kilmartin ========================= MARY CURRDIE Christening: 11 JUN 1836 Kilmartin, Argyll, Scotland Father: ARCHIBALD CURRDIE Mother: JANNET MCCALLUM JAMES CURRDIE Christening: 01 SEP 1838 Kilmartin, Argyll, Scotland Father: ARCHIBALD CURRDIE Mother: JANNET MACCALLUM -- Jo-Ann Croft

Sheila, I found the following marriage and child for Archibald KIRDY (sic) and Jannet McCALLUM. I will check a few other places and post if I find additional information. JANNET MCCALLUM Spouse: ARCHIBALD KIRDY Marriage: 14 DEC 1833 Kilmartin, Argyll, Scotland ================ MARGARET KIRDY Christening: 14 NOV 1834 Kilmartin, Argyll, Scotland Father: ARCHIBALD KIRDY Mother: JANNET MCCALLUM -- Jo-Ann Croft

Hi Listers, I'm very excited this morning as I've broken down a brick wall by finding the death of my g.grandfather. Mind you the way his name has been indexed at Scotland's People made things quite difficult by recording his name as ALEJXANDER. I had replaced some of the letters with an * but this didn't help so this time I didn't enter the Christian name and then his name came up, luckily there weren't all that many Boyd's who died in Oban between 1915 and 1929 and at the same time discovered that his first born was his stepson, so now I've been able to find his birth also. Sandy (Tasmania, Australia)

2008/6/23 Les Horn <leshorn@ythanonich.freeserve.co.uk>: > Hi all > Jill wrote > >> Morvern Mull according to the transcription on Ancestry Not like them to >> be nearly accurate > > 'fraid they're not accurate yet again. Morvern is NOT (in/on) Mull. I know and you know but if that is how Mr MacDonald described his place of birth as such to the enumerator in Anderson then that is how the enumerator will have written it. Even if he mis heard what was said. do you have a portion of the image of the census records for others to look at ? Have you found them in any other census before ? Jill

Hi all Jill wrote > Morvern Mull according to the transcription on Ancestry Not like them to > be nearly accurate 'fraid they're not accurate yet again. Morvern is NOT (in/on) Mull. Any other suggestions, please, as to where Moroon Wall is ? Regards Les

http://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/index.jsp Happened across this when searching for something else. It might be of interest to some of you. Joy/USA

BlankHi all Can anyone help ? Where on earth is Moroon Wall ? 1881 Census - Barony, Lanark, Psh 644-10 ED 55 pg 15 - 34A Elderslie St., Anderston Alexander MC DONALD Head M 66 Engineers Labourer b Moroon Wall, Argyll Christine MC DONALD Wife M 46 b Moroon Wall, Argyll John MC DONALD Son U 10 Scholar b Glasgow, Lanark Catherine MC DONALD Dau U 19 Sewing Machinist b Glasgow, Lanark William MC DONALD Nephew U 18 Shopman Grocers b Fenwick, Ayr Regards Les

My great grandmother was Mary Curdie born February 1841 to ... Curdie and Jannet McCallum. I obtained a copy of an extract from the Births and Baptisms Register which shows that her parents were of Baillemenach in the Parish of Glassary County of Argyll. The 1841 Census shows that there was a brother James (then aged 3) and a sister Margaret (aged 7). Mary married my great grandfather Samuel John Carpenter in London where they both were living on 11.12.1868. I do not know when Mary went to London or who accompanied her. The marriage certificate refers to her father as being 'Bailiff, deceased'. I would be grateful for any information relating to her siblings. I do not know when Archibald Curdie married Jannet McCallum as I haven't yet traced the family as far back as that marriage. I have a copy of the 1861 Census which shows Archibald then of Kilmichael-Glassary but no reference to the rest of the family. Sheila Riley

Hi, I am looking for any family of Angus MacDonald who in abt 1800 married Mary STEWART?.They had a son named Donald born abt 1805. Donald married Agnes DICKSON 13 February 143 at Earlston in Berwickshire. Their children were Alice, Daniel, Mary, Thomas, Robert, Allan, & Agnes. Donald & Agnes emigrated to New Zealand. Do they belong to your family? Helen McNamara Christchurch. New Zealand

Moira asked > On the 1804 baptism record is a town spelled Laegingoire> It could be in > Killean And Kilchenzie. My first reaction is that this is Largiemore which is in the southern, Kilchenzie, part of Killean & Kilchenzie. (GB Grid Ref NR 678 258 / OS Co-ordinates 167800,625800) Regards Les

I just wanted to thank everyone who responded about Agnes McKellar.  I don't think I have ever known a more helpful list.   Grace Bagwell

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On the 1804 baptism record is a town spelled Laegingoire> It could be inKillean And Kilchenzie. Thank you Moira

Hello Elizabeth I have numerous John McKellars however not yours. It would be more helpful if you have any detailed information about either person. My great uncle, also John, (John Campbell Mckellar)was very much into sailing and also had his own yacht on the Clyde. Interesting. Some of my ancestors were boat builders and one worked at Fyfe's of Fairlie who built early America's cup yachts. There is still a "McKellar's Slipway" at Kilcreggan!! Regards Lorna -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 299 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

My great-grandmother was Catherine McKechnie. Her grave-stone says "Native of Argyleshire, Scotland". Her birth date was February 18, 1837 in Argyle, Scotland. She died on February 10th, 1903 at age of Sixty-five (65) years. Her husband was Alexander "Sandie" Docherty, born about May 24, 1837 in Rutherglen, Lanarkshire, Scotland. I believe his full name could have been David Alexander Docherty because apparently my Father, and then I were his namesakes and that is our full names. According to the Ontario 1911 Census, both Catherine and Alexander emigrated to Canada in 1858, but I can't find any ship information or immigration info. Catherine McKechnie & Alexander (Sandy) Docherty (Dougherty/Doherty) were married in Toronto, Ontario, Canada, May 5, 1860. Catherine's parents were registered as Neil McKechnie and Margaret McKechnie, and Alexander's parents were registered as William Dougherty and Grace Hampsey. I believe Grace's name may have actually been spelled Hampsie as that name is used in a few instances as second names of descendants. Further, when looking over some old papers of my GMa Do(c)herty I came across McKillop associated with Catherine's name as well as McKecknie. I assumed up until now that it was possibly her name from an earlier marriage prior to her meeting Alexander, but now it's possible I guess that her name could have been Catherine McKillop McKechnie as I've seen references to other McKillop McKecknie's on the web. Any information on any of these individuals would be greatly appreciated. I've run into a block of any further info for a number of years now. My GPa Do(c)herty told me that our family was an old-old Scottish family, of no relation to the Irish Doherty's, but who's to know. David Alexander (Al Doc) Doherty Pickering, Ontario, Canada

I have a Flora Beaton who married Alexander McDonald on 14th June 1804 in Killean. According to IGI she was born abt 1787 in Campbeltown and Alexander abt 1785 also in Campbeltown. Can anyone give me a correct date of birth and possibly parents names for these two please. I've also been told that when Flora was married her address was Gaigan farm in Beachmenach in Killean does anyone know if this farm is still standing? Many thanks Gordon

Hello Katie - and Grace I can send you copies of Duncan Beaton's articles. I think I have them all!! I was in touch with him a while back and the last article is about a member of my family!! I'll try to get round to doing that sometime today. I have had a look for the Agnes McKellar in my own records but although I have a Duncan and Mary Mckellar and an Agnes as daughter of them, they belong to earlier generations. Regards Lorna -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 298 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Hello Lorna I understand that Duncan Beaton has written about the McKellars in Argyll. My McKellar family were from Argyll. My Great Grandfather Duncan McKellar emigrated from Kilmichael. Could I impose on you to share his articles with me also. Thanks kindly Jean (McKellar) Hammond, London, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorna van der Lijn" <LCMcK@xtra.co.nz> To: <SCT-ARGYLL@rootsweb.com>; "Katie de Haan" <gallorosso@home.nl> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Agnes McKellar birth 1790 in Argyll, Scotland > Hello Katie - and Grace > I can send you copies of Duncan Beaton's articles. I think I have them > all!! I was in touch with him a while back and the last article is about > a > member of my family!! > I'll try to get round to doing that sometime today. > I have had a look for the Agnes McKellar in my own records but although I > have a Duncan and Mary Mckellar and an Agnes as daughter of them, they > belong to earlier generations. > Regards > Lorna >

Grace, I haven't yet found any records corresponding to this Agnes McKellar, but I would initially expect any early records for her to be in Argyll, and particularly the Cowal including Kilfinan, as many McKellars were on the Cowal Peninsula area of Argyll in the relevant time frame. I certainly have quite a few among my ancestors and generally feel that all the Cowal and beyond branches must have been connected somewhere up or down the line. I understand Duncan Beaton has written some really worthwhile articles on the McKellars. I still want to read them myself, if I knew where to apply for them. Maybe Duncan or someone else could point me in the right direction. And perhaps you would find them interesting, too. I wouldn't expect Ross-shire to be an obvious port of call for Agnes/Anne, unless she married a Daniel/Donald Ross from that part of the country, maybe a cattle drover or someone else who got about a bit. And maybe the marriage would have been recorded in parishes in Argyll and Logie Ross-shire? Names: I'm no expert, but I understand and experience has shown me that Agnes and Anne were often interchangeable and so certainly possible on different records for one and the same person. If I come across anything I'll let you know. Katie de Haan The Netherlands MCVEAN SINCLAIR MCKELLAR CLARK MITCHELL MCINTYRE Argyll, Renfrew > LKS MCCALLUM MUNRO BEATON BETHUNE ROSS: Sutherland, Ross & Cromarty > LKS MCCALLUM Perthshire 1700s THACKWELL KEAT Worcs/Oxon/Berks/ KING PALMER LANGSTONE CARR POKINS HUTT Oxon/Berks UK KING JACKSON WEEDON Middlesex/London City/East End UK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grace Bagwell" <gmbagwell@yahoo.com> To: <SCT-ARGYLL@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 4:30 AM Subject: [ARGYLL] Agnes McKellar birth 1790 in Argyll, Scotland I am searching for the correct parents for Agnes McKellar. According to her she was born 20 Apr 1790 in Kilenin, Argyll, Scotland and her parents were Duncan and Mary McKellar. I did find an Ann McKellar christened in Kilfinan, Argyll, Scotland on 8 Apr 1790 with parents Duncan McKellar and Mary McCallum. Agnes later married Daniel Ross in 1814 in Cowel in Bute, Argyll, Scotland and emigrated to the United States in 1851. On a church record her birth is listed as 1791 in Glennan, Calphanson, Argyle, Scotland. Because some of the places are not quite accurate in my opinon and because the name is given in the christening record as Ann not Agnes, I am not certain I have found the right parents. I would appreciate any advice on the matter. Grace ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ARGYLL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Husband Daniel ROSS Birth: 1789 Parish Of Logie, , Ross And Cromarty, Scotland Christening: Marriage: 28 APR 1814 Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah Death: 26 SEP 1859 Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wife Agnes MCKELLAR Birth: 20 APR 1790 Kilfinan Or Cowa, , Argyll, Scotland Christening: 20 APR 1790 Kilinen, , Argyll, Scotland Marriage: 28 APR 1814 Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah Death: 28 APR 1857 Ogden, Weber, Utah Burial: 30 APR 1857 Ogden, Weber, Utah MOTHER FATHER DUNCAN MC KELLAR Wife MARY MILLER Children -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. AGNES MC KELLER Female Birth: 20 APR 1790 <Kilfinan Or Cowal, , Argyll, Scotland> Christening: Death: 28 APR 1857 Burial: Agnes MCKELLAR Sex: F Event(s) Birth: 20 Apr 1790 Crowel Bute,Loggyshire,,Scotland Death: 28 Apr 1857 Ogden,Weber,UT Burial: 1857 Ogden Cemetery,Weber,UT -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents Father: Duncan MCKELLAR Mother: Mary Miller -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriage(s) Spouse: Daniel Ross Hope this is of help to you variations of spelling of name place good luck Jim Grace Bagwell wrote: > I am searching for the correct parents for Agnes McKellar. According to her she was born 20 Apr 1790 in Kilenin, Argyll, Scotland and her parents were Duncan and Mary McKellar. I did find an Ann McKellar christened in Kilfinan, Argyll, Scotland on 8 Apr 1790 with parents Duncan McKellar and Mary McCallum. Agnes later married Daniel Ross in 1814 in Cowel in Bute, Argyll, Scotland and emigrated to the United States in 1851. On a church record her birth is listed as 1791 in Glennan, Calphanson, Argyle, Scotland. Because some of the places are not quite accurate in my opinon and because the name is given in the christening record as Ann not Agnes, I am not certain I have found the right parents. I would appreciate any advice on the matter. > > Grace > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ARGYLL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >