Hello List, I bought a copy of 'Gigha: The Flourishing Island' by Kathleen Philip some time ago but it has two pages completely blank! I am wondering if anyone has the book or access to it and would be so kind as to scan those two pages for me. It was self-published in 1979 and I bought it second hand so I have no chance of getting back to the publisher. I don't know whether she is still alive or not. The missing pages are 12 and 51 and I need to read them! I'll be most grateful for any help. Best wishes, Mary

Dont know if im in right list My interest is in Minard on the banks of Loch Fyne The Adam family so im told come from here they were fishermen before leaving for Perth early 1900's has anyone any info on them i think Alexander is the male name thanks keith _________________________________________________________________ Discover Bird's Eye View now with Multimap from Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354026/direct/01/

The Archives Department of Argyll & Bute Council, Manse Brae, Lochgilphead, holds a collection of over 500 family history documents, some dating back to the mid-1600s, that are of particular interest to genealogists with ancestral links to Argyll. The Archives Department has permitted the publication of the complete indexes of these documents, as at 23 July 2008, and these can now be viewed at www.tireegenealogy.com/AB.html and www.mullgenealogy.co.uk/a&bfh.htm . In a collaborative project between Isle of Tiree Genealogy and Mull Genealogy, transcriptions or extracts of selected documents are being prepared, which will be linked to the indexes on the websites as they are completed. Our grateful thanks are due to the staff of the Archives Department, especially Jackie Davenport, Archives & Administration Manager, and Marina Campbell, Archives Assistant, for their help and cooperation, and to Flo & Andy Straker, our emissaries to Lochgilphead. ____________________________________ Keith Dash Sydney, Australia Isle of Tiree Genealogy www.tireegenealogy.com Isle of Coll Genealogy www.collgenealogy.com

Looking for details of this years Mid Argyll show which is on this weekend coming, I found their website which has a history section that people here might find interesting http://www.mid-argyllshow.co.uk/history01.html This first show took place at Lochgilphead on 13 May 1887 under the auspices of Lochgilphead Agricultural Society -- regards Jill Bowis www.benderloch.org.uk/forum - Ardchattan Archive : - history, geology, ecology, genealogy, weather, webcam, local forum www.kintaline.co.uk - where we are, what we do: Kintaline Plant and Poultry Centre www.lorn.org.uk Local Origins Rural Network - bringing local produce to the community

Hi Edward, Yes - Kilcalmonell is a good way from Campbeltown but I've come to the conclusion that the folk back then travelled on the sea rather like we whizz along the freeway. Even to the extent of relatively frequent drowning accidents of groups of young folk on boats. So many people were drawn to Campbeltown in those days - I know less about Southend. Malcolm McPhail, who married my gg-grandmother's sister from Gigha, was definitely from South Knapdale as it said so at their marriage on Gigha and I'm pretty sure that is him that I found. They went to Campbeltown and he was a farm labourer at the times of the births of his first 3 or 4 children. Then became a mariner and recorded as such on his gravestone. Similarly the subsequent generations were drawn to Glasgow - and I have some sad drownings on the Clyde too. I think it is significant that your Colin's first son was called Duncan. I can't see any Colins born between 1797 and 1803 in Argyll. On her death certificate, were Marion's parents John and Flora, as the naming system suggests to me? Cheers, Mary

Mary Paton wrote: >> Hi Edward, >> >> Yes - Kilcalmonell is a good way from Campbeltown but I've come to >> the conclusion that the folk back then travelled on the sea rather >> like we whizz along the freeway. Absolutely, the maritime highway was the main artieral connection for the western seaboard for centuries. >> >> So many people were drawn to Campbeltown in those days Its good land around there, possibly able to sustain more people, maybe a little further from the influence of the Campbells, and close to Ireland for escape if you needed it. There are probably lots of other good reasons. regards Jill Bowis www.lorn.org.uk Local Origins Rural Network www.kintaline.co.uk - where we are, what we do: Kintaline Plant and Poultry Centre www.benderloch.org.uk/forum - Ardchattan history, geology, ecology, genealogy, weather, webcam, local forum

I also have a McPhail family from Campbeltown that I'm stuck on. The family eventually moves to Glasgow, but I'd be interested to know if anyone else is familiar with this family: Colin McPhail Life Range: 1802 - 1841-1851 Spouse: Marion Campbell (1800-1878). Born in Campbeltown, Argyll. Died on 8 Dec 1878 in 220 Main Street, Bridgeton, Glasgow.1802 Birth: Campbeltown, Argyll. 11 Feb 1826 Marriage: Marion Campbell (1800-1878). In Southend, Campbeltown, Argyll. Colin McPhail, Servant Tonrioch Grid Ref NR 692 198 of Campbeltown Parish and Marion Campbell Machremoremill of this Parish.1 Apr 1826 Child born (#1): Flora McPhail (1826- ). Born in Machremoremill, Southend, Argyll. 16 Mar 1828 Child born (#2): Donald McPhail (1828-1891). Born in Campbeltown Parish, Argyll. Died on 26 Jun 1891 in 21 Washington Street, Glasgow, Lanarkshire.14 Sep 1829 Child born (#3): Mary McPhail (1829- ). Born in Campbeltown Parish, Argyll. 29 May 1832 Child born (#4): Duncan McPhail (1832- ). Born in Ballybroanan, Southend, Argyll. 2 Dec 1834 Child born (#5): Margaret McPhail (1834-1915). Born in Glasgow, Lanarkshire. Died on 8 Dec 1915 in Eastern District Hospital, Glasgow.11 Jul 1837 Child born (#6): John McPhail (1837- ). Born in Glasgow, Lanarkshire. 1840 Child born (#7): Colin McPhail (1840- ). Born in Glasgow, Lanarkshire. 1841-1851 Death: 8 May 1842 Child born (#8): Alexander McPhail (1842- ). Born in Anderston, Barony, Glasgow, Lanarkshire. 1841 Census: 622/00 001/00 011. Bishop Street, Anderston, Glasgow, Lanarkshire. Regards edward Mary Paton <em.paton86@iinet.net.au> wrote: Hello List, I've just had what I think is a major breakthrough and then run aground. So I'm frantic. My ggg-aunt Catherine McNeill from Gigha married Malcolm McPhail in 1816 and went to live in Campbeltown where they about 5 children. Some were seamen whom I failed to find, some died young and I have no ongoing history for any of them. Catherine died in 1858, already a widow, and her death was reported by her son Duncan. I have never found Duncan's birth but have now discovered a Duncan McPhail on the 1851,61,71 and 81, a Tide Waiter/Customs officer born Gigha. The last place I find him is Bowmore 1881, a widower, Principal Coast officer for HM Customs, living with his unmarried daughter Catherine, a piano teacher. His only son Charles Colvill McPhail died of Pthisis in 1872, aged 19. Duncan's wife was Margaret Paterson whom he married in 1843. She must have died in the 1870s. I have hunted on Scotlandspeople for his death and although there are several Duncan McPhails of appropriate age they are all over the place, none that I have checked is the right man. I can't claim this fellow until II see his death cert saying he's the son of Malcolm McPhail and Catherine McNeill! I've also searched Harold Ralston's brilliant site and can't find him there either. It seems amazing that I can't find any Memorials for any of this family - he seems to have had a steady enough job to put up a stone! Is there any place that retired/retiring Customs officers would go to live? I suppose he could have emigrated but 60+ isn't the usual age is it? Any clues, suggestions or McPhail researchers would be brilliant. Cheers, Mary ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ARGYLL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No trees were destroyed in the sending of this email but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.

Thanks to Nivard Ovington, this lost Argyll lad might find a home amoungst us. Happy Ancestor Hunting, Cathy DiPietro List Admin Sct-Argyll ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> To: SCT-ARGYLL-admin@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:37:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Argyleshire stray in Northumberland BTs Hi I am not a subscriber to your list hence this mail Whilst looking for some information on the Wolsingham BTs I cam across the following stray >From Wolsingham Durham BTs Alexander Cambell MACFARLON born Sept 15th 1810 baptised Jan 13th 1811 1st son of Alexander Cambell MACFARLON of Wolsingham Dyer, Native of the Parish of Kilfeenon Argyleshire North Britain by his wife Dorothy daughter of John BROWN of the Parish of Haltwhistle Northumberland I presume the Parish is Kilfinan ? Perhaps you could forward it to either the list or someone that may find use for it Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK)

Hi Katie and Martyn, Thanks for your suggestions but I have put in a search both for the years 1855 - 1871 and also for the exact year and got no sign of her. I am sure I have spelled the name as recorded and also I found the other two people on the page. As I said I found it when I was actually in Edinburgh a few years ago but want to see and enlarge it online. Her death was registered 30th Dec 1858. Best regards, Mary <<You say Duncan's mother's 25th December death is not showing up on Scotland's People. I'm sure you've probably thought of this already but, just in case, have you checked 1859 as well?>>

Hard to say this without sounding condescending, but use the soundex to cover a wider area of possibilities. I found this for Catherine in the death index on scotlandspeople - 1858 MCPHAILL CATHERINE MCGOUGAN MCNEILL F 64 CAMPBELTOWN /ARGYLL 507/00 0144 Note that using the soundex option supplied a death where the surname was spelled with two "l"s. -- Jo-Ann Croft

Hi Cliff and Jill, Thanks for your ideas. Duncan's mother (as I believe, Catherine [McNeill] Mc Phail) did erect a memorial for his father and some of her children in Kilkerran. I'm surprised there's no memorial at least for Duncan's wife and son but perhaps there was and it was destroyed by the weather. I'll try to find him in England or overseas next I think, but am not convinced that the record is failing to appear on the website. I have been looking (as a check) for his mother's death on scotlandspeople and it isn't showing up. I know she died December 25th 1858 and have definitely seen the certificate in Edinburgh so it exists - must be something wrong with the program. Best regards, Mary

Mary Although it's implied in Katie's message, it's perhaps worth making the point explicitly, The dates in Scotlands People are years of registration, not the years of the events. It's therefore entirely possible - even probable - that an event on 25 December would not be registered and recorded until the following year. Martyn> From: gallorosso@home.nl> To: sct-argyll@rootsweb.com; em.paton86@iinet.net.au> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:08:21 +0200> Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] McPHAIL Duncan (+McNeill, Paterson) - missing death records?> > Hello Mary,> > You say Duncan's mother's 25th December death is not showing up on > Scotland's People. I'm sure you've probably thought of this already but, > just in case, have you checked 1859 as well?> > It was a long time before I found my great great grandmother's death, even > knowing the name and date and place. She is one of the few ancestors of > mine for whom there is a monumental inscription and so I "knew" Duncan > McCallum's wife Mary Munro died at Melvich, Sutherland, in December 1814. > Still, no sign of her on Scotland's People until, in one of those rare > flashes of inspiration that carry our research way forward - or rather, > backward - I eventually stumbled upon her down the road in Strathy, > registered three weeks later in Reay (Caithness), in January 1915!> > So, a different month, year and even a different county from where I'd been > looking but hardly surprising in retrospect, given shifting administrative > boundaries and the bleak winter conditions on the northern coast.> > Good luck!> Katie de Haan> The Netherlands

Hello Mary, You say Duncan's mother's 25th December death is not showing up on Scotland's People. I'm sure you've probably thought of this already but, just in case, have you checked 1859 as well? It was a long time before I found my great great grandmother's death, even knowing the name and date and place. She is one of the few ancestors of mine for whom there is a monumental inscription and so I "knew" Duncan McCallum's wife Mary Munro died at Melvich, Sutherland, in December 1814. Still, no sign of her on Scotland's People until, in one of those rare flashes of inspiration that carry our research way forward - or rather, backward - I eventually stumbled upon her down the road in Strathy, registered three weeks later in Reay (Caithness), in January 1915! So, a different month, year and even a different county from where I'd been looking but hardly surprising in retrospect, given shifting administrative boundaries and the bleak winter conditions on the northern coast. Good luck! Katie de Haan The Netherlands MCVEAN SINCLAIR MCKELLAR CLARK MITCHELL MCINTYRE Argyll, Renfrew > LKS MCCALLUM MUNRO BEATON BETHUNE ROSS: Sutherland, Ross & Cromarty > LKS MCCALLUM Perthshire 1700s KING PALMER LANGSTONE CARR POKINS HUTT Oxon/Berks UK KING JACKSON WEEDON Middlesex/London City/East End UK THACKWELL KEAT Worcs/Oxon/Berks/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Paton" <em.paton86@iinet.net.au> To: "Hardy Plants" <farm@kintaline.co.uk>; <sct-argyll@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 3:20 AM Subject: [ARGYLL] McPHAIL Duncan (+McNeill, Paterson) > Hi Cliff and Jill, > > Thanks for your ideas. Duncan's mother (as I believe, Catherine > [McNeill] Mc Phail) did erect a memorial for his father and some of > her children in Kilkerran. I'm surprised there's no memorial at least > for Duncan's wife and son but perhaps there was and it was destroyed > by the weather. > > I'll try to find him in England or overseas next I think, but am not > convinced that the record is failing to appear on the website. > > I have been looking (as a check) for his mother's death on > scotlandspeople and it isn't showing up. I know she died December > 25th 1858 and have definitely seen the certificate in Edinburgh so it > exists - must be something wrong with the program. > > Best regards, > Mary > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ARGYLL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Listers, I have changed my e-mail address from :- claymore@cogeco.ca TO claymore67@yahoo.ca Wilma - Canada

Hello List, I've just had what I think is a major breakthrough and then run aground. So I'm frantic. My ggg-aunt Catherine McNeill from Gigha married Malcolm McPhail in 1816 and went to live in Campbeltown where they about 5 children. Some were seamen whom I failed to find, some died young and I have no ongoing history for any of them. Catherine died in 1858, already a widow, and her death was reported by her son Duncan. I have never found Duncan's birth but have now discovered a Duncan McPhail on the 1851,61,71 and 81, a Tide Waiter/Customs officer born Gigha. The last place I find him is Bowmore 1881, a widower, Principal Coast officer for HM Customs, living with his unmarried daughter Catherine, a piano teacher. His only son Charles Colvill McPhail died of Pthisis in 1872, aged 19. Duncan's wife was Margaret Paterson whom he married in 1843. She must have died in the 1870s. I have hunted on Scotlandspeople for his death and although there are several Duncan McPhails of appropriate age they are all over the place, none that I have checked is the right man. I can't claim this fellow until II see his death cert saying he's the son of Malcolm McPhail and Catherine McNeill! I've also searched Harold Ralston's brilliant site and can't find him there either. It seems amazing that I can't find any Memorials for any of this family - he seems to have had a steady enough job to put up a stone! Is there any place that retired/retiring Customs officers would go to live? I suppose he could have emigrated but 60+ isn't the usual age is it? Any clues, suggestions or McPhail researchers would be brilliant. Cheers, Mary

Mary Paton wrote: >> It seems amazing that I can't find any Memorials for any of this >> family - he seems to have had a steady enough job to put up a stone! Don't be surprised. There are still very few stones erected for this time, relative to the number of deaths. He could be anywhere, and he could quite easily emigrate to nieces and nephews or others. SO many people had left and at 60 he could have another 20 years working life in him, for this area. regards Jill Bowis www.benderloch.org.uk/forum - One Place Study on Ardchattan history, geology, ecology, genealogy, weather, webcam, local forum www.kintaline.co.uk - where we are, what we do: Kintaline Plant and Poultry Centre www.bowis.co.uk - all our family trees and a One Name Study on Bowis

In a marathon effort, Ian Scott in Melbourne, Australia, has produced the complete set of indexes of baptisms and marriages in the Coll Old Parish Registers 1776-1855. Many of the later baptism entries also record the date of birth. I am proud to announce that the indexes, in searchable Excel format, are available on the Isle of Coll Genealogy website at www.collgenealogy.com. My congratulations to Ian on the successful completion of this project, which has taken months of concentrated and painstaking work, and my thanks for his generosity in sharing it with us. ____________________________________ Keith Dash Sydney, Australia Isle of Tiree Genealogy www.tireegenealogy.com Isle of Coll Genealogy www.collgenealogy.com

Hi I am looking for info/descendants of William Galbraith b1869 at Corrilach nr Southend. William served in the Seaforth Highlanders during WW1, possibly attaining the rank of Colonel, and was married. He returned to the UK after the war, and had at least 2 daughters, Janet & Lorna. Janet was married and died in the 1980's in Devon. She spent several years caring for her sick husband, and died shortly after he passed away. Would love to know if William (b1869) died in England or Scotland, and whom he was married to. William's parents were William Galbraith & Helen Campbell; they were married 22/6/1869 at Southend. Any info would be very much appreciated. Flo Straker

This is my first post, my interest is in the McLACHLAN family who lived at Camusnagaul (opposite Fort William) from at least 1841 to 1881: Donald McLACHLAN c 1773 - 1857 m Ann CAMERON son: John McLACHLAN 1809 - 1881 m Elizabeth (Betty) McPHERSON 1823 - 1896 grandchildren: Ann McLACHLAN 1844 - 1885 m David Dickie John McLACHLAN 1845 - 1922 m Jessie Cameron (died in Queensland Australia) Flora McLACHLAN 1848 - 1861 Jessie McLACHLAN 1851 - 1926 Would love to hear from anyone who has any of these in their tree. Steve

Hello List, I've been going through the OPR for Gigha and came across a sign which looks like Sin.m with the m high up to the right. It is part of the title of John McNeill Sin.m Esq. of Gigha. Does anyone know what it would mean? I can send a copy as took a snap of it if anyone willing to look. I think it must be a convention of some sort. Cheers, Mary