Greetings All, Would anyone be kind enough to look up 1841 and later Glasgow census returns please? I'm seeking data on some Sinclair siblings, possibly Phillip, Donald, Margarate and Jean/Jane. In March 1840, John Sinclair, who the previous year, with wife, three children and three sisters, had arrived in Adelaide on the Palmyra, wrote to a brother and sister in Glasgow about the voyage and the death of a son. I would like to know who these Glasgow siblings were! The only known sisters of John went to Australia with him, and one would hardly have had time to return to Scotland by March. Could the 'sister' have been a sister-in-law?? I have no knowledge of the death of a son on the Palmyra. The only known son of John was born in Edinburgh shortly before sailing, and died in Australia in 1911. Perhaps he was a twin!! Any data would be greatly appreciated. With thanks, John McIntyre, Australia.

John McIntyre. wrote: >> Greetings All, >> Would anyone be kind enough to look up 1841 and >> later Glasgow census returns please? I'm seeking data on some >> Sinclair siblings, possibly Phillip, Donald, Margarate and >> Jean/Jane. >> In March 1840, John Sinclair, who the previous year, with wife, >> three children and three sisters, had arrived in Adelaide on the >> Palmyra, wrote to a brother and sister in Glasgow about the voyage >> and the death of a son. I would like to know who these Glasgow >> siblings were! Hi John Thanks to the splendid system of the GROs to digitise the records for all to see, you can search these and all the cousins on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk regards Jill Bowis www.benderloch.org.uk/forum - One Place Study on Ardchattan history, geology, ecology, genealogy, weather, webcam, local forum www.kintaline.co.uk - where we are, what we do: Kintaline Plant and Poultry Centre www.bowis.co.uk - all our family trees and a One Name Study on Bowis

Hi all Having previously been reluctant to put their publications on-line there are now some on-line as .pdf docs. Have a look at this URL for SRS publications you can view on-line. It names each of 39 publications. http://openlibrary.org/a/OL2533482A/Scottish-Record-Society?books_page=0 Altenatively this URL gives access to 55 which, unfortunately, are not indexed and the Keywords: for most of them are "Registers of births, etc. -- Scotland" http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22Scottish%20Record%20Society%2C%20Edinburgh%22 Regards Les ========================== Lochaber and North Argyll Family History Group - http://tinyurl.com/y6te7n e-mail - landnafhg@fsmail.net ==========================

Catherine DiPietro wrote: >> Greetings Listers, >> >> What do lightning, children and sticky snacks have in common? They >> are all potentially FATAL to your data. Those years and years of >> researching, travelling, corresponding, digging, mystery solving, >> interviewing and irreplaceable photo scans - gone. We're talking >> from >> laptop to doorstop in nothing flat. It happened to me - it can >> happen to you. Ask computor geek at specialist puter shop to rescue data for you. It is in fact rare that it cannot be found, it can be expensive. But you are absolutely right. External hard drives are wonderful and now inexpensive. (my data don't fit on a memory stick any more <g> ) regards Jill Bowis www.benderloch.org.uk/forum - One Place Study on Ardchattan history, geology, ecology, genealogy, weather, webcam, local forum www.kintaline.co.uk - where we are, what we do: Kintaline Plant and Poultry Centre www.bowis.co.uk - all our family trees and a One Name Study on Bowis

Greetings Listers, What do lightning, children and sticky snacks have in common? They are all potentially FATAL to your data. Those years and years of researching, travelling, corresponding, digging, mystery solving, interviewing and irreplaceable photo scans - gone. We're talking from laptop to doorstop in nothing flat. It happened to me - it can happen to you. Get vaccinated! Copy those files to CD's or data sticks now! Have no clue what I'm talking about - no worries. When the grandkids come over waving kool-aid around your keyboard - have their parents archive your system first. Ask the geek in the local computer store how to use a memory stick. You should just happen to have the computer in the car in case he gets so exasperated explaining that he offers to do it himself - tee hee. Save a copy of your data - You can do it, you should do it, so go do it. Have a great summer! Cathy DiPietro, list admin

Hi Les, Thanks for both sites - as I said to Philip I thought it would be the same but the OPR definitely says Knocknahall. The reference is interesting and it also shows that Rhunahaorine was on the Largie estate. I still want to find an inhabitant or tenant list for the Largie Estate but when I wrote to them by snail mail I got no reply. >As Philip says this is Knocknaha (GB Grid Ref NR689179) >http://getamap.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/getamap/frames.htm > >Have a look at this URL : http://tinyurl.com/Knocknahall Pages 85 & 86 >give details of Knocknahall in 1777. Best wishes, Mary

Hi List, Thanks for the scotlandspeople advice, Les, it will be very useful. Does anyone know where Knocknahall is - I imagine probably a farm around Campbeltown? Best wishes, Mary

Mary asked > Does anyone know where Knocknahall is - I imagine probably a farm around > Campbeltown? As Philip says this is Knocknaha (GB Grid Ref NR689179) http://getamap.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/getamap/frames.htm Have a look at this URL : http://tinyurl.com/Knocknahall Pages 85 & 86 give details of Knocknahall in 1777. Regards Les ========================== Lochaber and North Argyll Family History Group - http://tinyurl.com/y6te7n e-mail - landnafhg@fsmail.net

Knocknaha perhaps? on the Southend road Philip Maddocks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Paton" <em.paton86@iinet.net.au> To: "Argyll Rootsweb" <sct-argyll@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 6:23 AM Subject: [ARGYLL] Knocknahall, Campbeltown > Hi List, > > Thanks for the scotlandspeople advice, Les, it will be very useful. > > Does anyone know where Knocknahall is - I imagine probably a farm > around Campbeltown? > > Best wishes, > Mary > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ARGYLL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all Various Listers have commented on the OPR & Death records (1538-1854) now to be found on the (Scottish Government's) ScotlandsPeople web-site. Unlike Baptisms and Marriages it was not a legal requirement (by the Kirk) of the Session Clerks to keep a record of deaths/interments within their Parishes consequently few did so. Hence our reliance on pre 1855 MIs (Memorial Inscriptions). NB There was no requirement for the Minister to keep any such records. To find out which Parishes did keep Death/burial records enter the ScotlandsPeople web-site http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ but DO NOT Log-in. Click on "Deaths and Burials 1538-1854" this will take you to the "What's In Ihe Database" tab. Click on Extant OPRs to give a List of Parish Registers. If you page down there is a List of OPR's by parish within each county. Click on the relevant OPR Reference ie 492-551 for Dunbartonshire & Argyll. This will give you the dates of bmd's by Parish within these Counties. Click on OPR Death Years by parish to see the available death/burial event years in the registers. Hope this helps those who are not au-fait with ScotlandsPeople which I personally recommend over certain Commercial web-sites. Regards Les ========================== Lochaber and North Argyll Family History Group - http://tinyurl.com/y6te7n e-mail - landnafhg@fsmail.net ==========================

Hi Scott, the OPR death and burial records added to the Scotlandspeople site appear to focus on long established urban parishes. Rod McPherson Victoria Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott MacPherson" <macpherson@gmail.com> To: <sct-argyll@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 1:34 AM Subject: [ARGYLL] New OPR Death and Burial records > ScotlandsPeople sent out an email announcing new OPRs from 1538 to > 1854 for deaths and burials. Does anyone know if any of these are > from Argyll? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ARGYLL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi all, If a family came from Campbeltown, Argyll on the Isle of Kintyre, which parish register would they be located in and where are there burial places and how many in Campbeltown? Unfortunately I cannot establish who Alexander McPherson's parents were and when he was born. I have his marriage to Marion McNeill on 2nd December 1845 and they came to Australia around 1854. I also cannot find his death here in Victoria. His wife died in 1875. Any leads for me would be appreciated. Thank you. Sandra Victoria, Australia

Hi John, My Ann GILLIES married John CAMERON, James Houston married Helen Hastings. Any connection. Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Montgomery" <johnmontgomery4@bigpond.com> To: "David and Chris" <chris.david.mack@xtra.co.nz> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Interests:MacKechnie, Cameron, Leitch, Houston, Gillies,Hastings > Hi Christine, my G G G Grandfather was an Alexander GILLIES who married a > Mary CAMERON . They had 3 Children, Neil born1803, Donald born 1804 and > Mary born 1808. > They lived in Kildalton and Jura areas of Argylle. My G G Grandfather Neil > came out Australia in approx 1838. If this is the family you are looking for > please let me know and I'll send you information on them. > Regards John Montgomery. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David and Chris" <chris.david.mack@xtra.co.nz> > To: <Sct-argyll@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 6:56 AM > Subject: [ARGYLL] Interests:MacKechnie, Cameron, Leitch, Houston, > Gillies,Hastings > > > >I am interested in the following families for Argyllshire possibly > > Lochgilphead area. > > > > MacKechnie, Leitch, Cameron, Houston, Gillies, Hastings, if anyone is also > > researching any of these names i would love to hear from you. > > Thanks > > > > Christine ( New Zealand) > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> SCT-ARGYLL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SCT-ARGYLL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Hi Sheila, My interests are: MARY LEITCH married ARCHIBALD MacKECHNIE ANGUS CAMERON married ELIZABETH HOUSTON 1888 Parents were JOHN CAMERON married ANN GILLIES and JAMES HOUSTON married HELEN HASTINGS. Any connection Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "S Tryk" <wombat@ecarthage.com> To: "David and Chris" <chris.david.mack@xtra.co.nz>; <sct-argyll-l@rootsweb.com> Cc: "S Tryk" <wombat@ecarthage.com> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Interests:MacKechnie, Cameron, Leitch, Houston, Gillies,Hastings > Christine, > I have a Janet Leitch "from Glenorchy" according to family story. She seems > to be the one baptised in Kilchrenan October 13 1771, the daughter of Angus > Leitch and Anne MacArthur. > Janet married John MacKinnon around 1790. Their daughter Margaret was born > around 1793 -- no record found. She married Alexander MacNiven. Any > connections? > I also have tons of Camerons, but they're pretty hard to trace in > Cameron country, when they're all named John, Alexander and Mary! > Sheila > >

Scott Log into Scotlands People, click on Old Parish Registers: Deaths & Burials, then on Extant OPRs, to find out more. The short answer seems to be Yes, but only a few. Martyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott MacPherson" <macpherson@gmail.com> To: <sct-argyll@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 4:34 PM Subject: [ARGYLL] New OPR Death and Burial records > ScotlandsPeople sent out an email announcing new OPRs from 1538 to > 1854 for deaths and burials. Does anyone know if any of these are > from Argyll?

ScotlandsPeople sent out an email announcing new OPRs from 1538 to 1854 for deaths and burials. Does anyone know if any of these are from Argyll?

Does anyone know if Nancy Black, who wrote FROM A HOLLOW ON THE HILL, a very good book about Nether Lorn and Forgingall is still active on the list?  In that book she wrote about Campbells of Barnayarrie and Grahams too.from Kilninver area. Both families are in my direct line  Duncan McIntosh 

Christine, I have a Janet Leitch "from Glenorchy" according to family story. She seems to be the one baptised in Kilchrenan October 13 1771, the daughter of Angus Leitch and Anne MacArthur. Janet married John MacKinnon around 1790. Their daughter Margaret was born around 1793 -- no record found. She married Alexander MacNiven. Any connections? I also have tons of Camerons, but they're pretty hard to trace in Cameron country, when they're all named John, Alexander and Mary! Sheila

I am interested in the following families for Argyllshire possibly Lochgilphead area. MacKechnie, Leitch, Cameron, Houston, Gillies, Hastings, if anyone is also researching any of these names i would love to hear from you. Thanks Christine ( New Zealand) > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ARGYLL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jill: I always think its worth while sharing; searching experiences bearing in mind that criteria changes and its worth trying again. I agree also the "show options" link might cause an expectation that is worth a caution. It doesn't block all the negative links we might find having clicked on that "show options" as if being led to something else is a positive excitement to information we want to find and see. Not necessarily so as others will agree with what they have experienced and found. I think we need to heed what our fellow hobbyists find. I really do think that for as much as websites might appear user friendly we should treat them with the same caution as we treat Family Search,that it might be a useful start for our searches. For the same reasons, always pursing better and more reliable record of what we are pursuing Has to be the best record we require for inserting into our GEDCOM which requires source records each year of our searches against the name of the individual. Maybe something I have said has caused someone to question what they are doing in a positive way. I think its worthwhile if we share information and how to record and substantiate the source of that record. I am willing to help where I can but I know there are people like Gill who are well able to do so also. In any event its what the hobby genealogy is all about that we join forces to help others where we can. As an example Les Horn found my Gt grandfather working as a Butler away from his birth place, and with the aid of Ancestry I was able to trace his footsteps and his finding my Gt grandmother working away from her birth place in Mull to up to the date of their marriage and stabilised marriage to be able to raise a family together to support my records, which is well worth it. Its the quality information such as this which is so worthwhile rather than finding a gap in time to the date of death without realising how they ended their last years. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hardy Plants" <farm@kintaline.co.uk> > > A recent new feature in google is a Timeline. > This throws up finds from all sorts of documents and books and such. > > beware -- a serious time eater. so many scrummy resources, put in your place > of interest and see what comes up. > > Instructions given from another group > Do the usual Google web search. When the results page comes up, you should > also get a "show options" link top left of the page. Click on that, and then > timeline at the bottom of the options. > In many places, where it referred to a Google-scanned book that they didn't > give full access to, could find the same book in full from a different > depositer on the Internet Archive