Re-posting my interests. I am researching the BRODIE family, mostly descended from JOHN BRODIE (various spellings) from Rathlin Island who settled with his wife MARGARET KIARGAN and family in Campbeltown in the mid-1800s. I would be interested to hear from other descendants of this line, and even more delighted if anyone is able to give me information on John Brodie's own ancestry. Patsy Graham (Auckland, New Zealand)

Hi, just repeating my call for information on McLatchies from Campbelltown area - still trying to connect them with the ones from the area near old/New Cumnock etc in Ayrshire. Trisha McLatchie __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com

Looking for information on the Brown family. I am related to James b. 1864, Southend, Argylee married May Mary Bruce Polly b. 1865 Southend, Argyll married Henderson Here is my family line. GGGrandfather James Brown born? James Brown married Elizabeth Adamson Their children were: 1. Adam b. 1818 Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland 2. Margaret b.1826 Dysart, Fife 3. William b.1828 Kinghorn, Fife 4. Isabella b.1833 5. Peter Adamson b. 1835 S.Ronaldsay,Orkney 6. Thomas Adamson b.1839 S.Ronaldsay,Orkney (myGGrandfather-) married: Suzie Margaret Mein b. 1839 Edinburgh Parish Thomas Adamson Brown lived and worked as the Assistant Lighthouse Keeper Mull of Kintyre Lighthouse from 1862-1866 Children on Thomas: 1. Susan b. Glasgow 2. Jack b. 1858 in Edinburgh 3. James b. 1864, Southend, Argylee married May 4. Mary Bruce Polly b. 1865 Southend, Argyll married Henderson 5. Maggie Mein Margaret b. 1867 in Edingurg married Adamson 6. Helen b. 1870 in Leith married George Watson 7. Thomas b. 1875 8. William b. Glasgow married Maggie Johnston 9. George Mein Brown I b. 1872 Dalkeith, Schotland married Mary Agnes Johnston b. 1871 Antrim, Ulster Providence Ireland Here is my web site: http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/b/r/o/Cynthia-E-Brown/GENE12-0001 .html

Subject: McNaughton/Munroe > > > Looking for anyone interested in the following: > > MCNAUGHTON, Alexander born about 1788 North Knapdale > > married Margaret MUNROE > > Their children: > > Christiana born 12-04-1815 married James MCDONALD > > John born about 1817 married Margaret Clarke > > Neil Lawery born 1826 married Christiana Clark > > Kate McNaughton born 1829 married John McDonald > > Nancy born about 1829 > > Alexander born 11-16-1833 married Rhoda Robinson > > Mary born about 1835 married ? Jones > > Amelia born about 1837 > > The family moved to Ontario, Canada pre 1846 > > > > Marilyn > > Canada > > > > > > ==== SCT-ARGYLL Mailing List ==== > > ***************************************************************** > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Argyll is the > > GenConnect board for Argyll > > > > > > >

Looking for James Wilson (b Ireland abt 1837) married to Jane (Janet?) Hunter (b abt 1841 Tobormory, Argyll) married in Clackmannan 3 Jun 1867, children John Wilson b abt 1861 (may from 1st wife?) Nelston, Renfrew Andrew Wilson b abt 1868 Bothwell, Lanark Catherine White Wilson b 12 Oct 1870 Holytown/Bothwell Lanark James Wilson b 2 Jan 1873 Holytown/Bothwell Lanark tia Elisa Australia

Priscilla, You asked: > > Where might they have worshipped and celebrated christenings as a Free > Presbyterian in Argyllshire? In Scotland, the church is called the Free Church of Scotland. It became the United Free Church of Scotland after a merger in 1900. My ancestors were also members of this denomination. There appear to have been a number of Free Churches at that time in Argyll and elsewhere. > I've not been successful in locating any birth > records for either individual. Is that because they weren't members of the > Church of Scotland where there seemed to be more of an obligation to record > > and, in 1855, submit their registers to the civil government? Some of my ancestors show up on the records of both the Free Church and Church of Scotland. I haven't figured out exactly why yet, but I assume they were not baptized in both churches. :<) There are definitely records of the Free Church in the GRO, but they may not be there for all of the parishes. > Or am I not > finding them simply because it's too early for there to be consistent > records? That is possible, but you might also try the LDS Family Search site which also has the Scottish parish records from the GRO on their International Genealogical Index. Sometimes a different search engine looking at the same records will give you a different result. You might also look at surrounding counties. I'm not up on the historical geopolitics of Scotland, but the counties may have changed boundaries. Your ancestors claimed to come from Argyll, but when they were born, the boundaries may have been different. I'm thinking particularly of Bute or Buteshire. The current official name of the county is "Argyll and Bute."

My apologies to the list but I don't know where else to post the query. :-) My sister-in-law asked me the other day if I knew what tartan, if any, people by the name of Barclay would be entitled to wear. I have a reasonably good book on Scottish tartans but Barclay is a name not listed. Any help would be appreciated. Regards Peter, the older of the tworobbos @ Bairnsdale, gateway to the mountains, lakes, streams (and remnant forests) of East Gippsland

To Win MacKenzie If your ancestor from Lochaline MOR was a quarryman I would look at the census for Ballachulish because there were large slate quarries there. The Tourist Info Centre at Ballachulish has a historical museum with artefacts and photographs of these quarries and much of the beautifully manicured lawns near the Centre are built on landfill into the lake from the rubble from these quarries. Like many occupations this one gave the quarriers a very low life expectancy because of the dust and the extremely hard labour. Anne Maye.

Barclay The Barclay were a family which came over from France with the Norman Conquest.The first spelling of their name was 'de Berchelai,belved to be Anglo-Saxon version of beau,meaning beautiful ,and lee a meadow or field .The early settlers in Gloucesershire bore the Norman forenames of Roger and Ralph.Domesday Book list them as owining twenty hamlets between the River Wye and Usk. Yes tey have a TARTAN it yellow ,black ,brown .white stripes vertical Yellow stripes running vertical and Horzontal.

My Alexander MOODY b. Argylshire about 1800 immigrated to New Brunswick and subsequently married Margaret Elizabeth MORRIS in 1828 who was also born in Argylshire approx 1807. They are identified in the NB census as "Free Presbyterian." Where might they have worshipped and celebrated christenings as a Free Presbyterian in Argyllshire? I've not been successful in locating any birth records for either individual. Is that because they weren't members of the Church of Scotland where there seemed to be more of an obligation to record and, in 1855, submit their registers to the civil government? Or am I not finding them simply because it's too early for there to be consistent records? I've found only two Alexander MOODYs on ScotsOrigins in this time period. One in Glasgow and one in Prestonpans. Neither of those two locations would be included in Arglyshire, right? Any suggestion where else to look? Thanks all :) Priscilla

After a long period in the wilderness due to a hard drive failure. Researching BAXTER, HAMILTON, COLQUHOUN, McNAIR, JOHNSTONE, McCONNACHIE, CARLIN -all in West of Scotland/ Glasgow area; HAMILTON, BERTRAM, HANAN, DEANS in south/east Scotland. Glad to see all the lists still seem busy. Mary Hamilton

In response to the question about the marriage and marriage banns. A couple of things to consider. First the IGI (which is an index only to the records of members deceased ancestors, who have had temple ordinances performed for them,) would list the source of the information. If the LDS extracted the record from the parish register the source number would begin with 'M' indicating marriage (a christening record begins with 'C'). Secondly: Records of Banns are not normally extracted because that doesn't prove that a marriage ever took place. If the record was submitted by an LDS member for their deceased ancestor, the source number would usually begin with a number such as 77 or 82 or 86 for instance. This indicates the year the record was submitted for temple ordinances. If I find a record like this, I order the microfilm of the parish record to see for myself because I don't trust other people's research. With regards to birth/christening - the same thing applies - if the LDS extracted the information from the parish register, they would use the christening record. If an LDS member submitted the info. they may have the birth date from another record. There is so much confusion about the LDS records and what the IGI really is. I hope this helps. Happy Ancestor Hunting - Jura

Hi, I'm looking for information on the parents and siblings of Alexander McGILVRAY and Sarah CAMERON. Alexander was bc 1791 Ardnamurchan to parents Donald McGILVRAY and Mary LIVINGSTON. Sarah was b 1785 Perth to parents Duncan CAMERON and Sarah McGREGOR. Alexander and Sarah later emigrated to Australia in 1839. Can anyone help with any information on these families? Michelle Linneth Darwin Northern Territory AUSTRALIA

-----Original Message----- From: Sue Lund <sue@gil.com.au> To: 'sct-argyll-admin@rootsweb.com' <sct-argyll-admin@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, February 01, 2002 6:44 AM Subject: sct bdm update >The SCT BDM Exchange site has been updated again - it now holds 10,704 >records. > >The Marriages and Banns section won't be updated until the format changes >to Active Server Pages - at the rate I'm going, it could be a couple of >months. But please continue to send your marriage and banns info in, as >it's being added to the database, just not being updated. > >To view the site, go to - > >http://www.sctbdm.com/ > >Cheers >Sue Lund >

Marilyn Cameron wrote > On the IGI I have found 2 marriage dates for couples with the names Alan and Mary CAMERON One is Dec 5th 1815 in the Archarcle Parish. The other is Dec 27th 1815 listed for Morvern.I believe Morvern and Arharcle are in the same general area and wondered if this could be the same couple perhaps with Banns read in different churches or something simular What does anyone with a knowledge of marriage traditions for the area think? < Could replies to this be posted to the list as I too have an interest in this area. Regards Peter, the older of the tworobbos @ Bairnsdale, gateway to the mountains, lakes, streams (and remnant forests) of East Gippsland

Hi, At long last, on a Death Certificate that I received today, I have found the parents of my g g grandmother Sarah DEWAR who was born about 1803. She was married to Duncan MCPHAIL in 1825 in Glassary Parish. Her parents were John DEWAR - a farmer, and Christina MCGREGOR. Anyone researching this DEWAR family please get in touch. Regards, Penuel Ellis-Brown ( Mrs ) Bolney, W.Sussex, England Web-site at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~penuel/index.htm ****************************** NDFHS Member #10463 ****************************** Researching at present England Northumberland HERDMAN / ALMOND / BURNS / GOODMAN / GRAHAM / FLOCKER / CHARLTON Durham BURDON / HUNTER Lancashire- Liverpool / West Derby ELLIS / BROWN / GUNN Warwickshire- Kenilworth , Balsall, Radford Semele BROWN / LEATHERLAND Northamptonshire- Welford and surrounds KNIGHT / BILLING Yorkshire- ALMOND Scotland Ayrshire JOHNSTON(E) / ROSS / MCMILLAN Lanarkshire and Ayrshire BAILLIE / DUNSMORE Argyll SMITH / MCPHAIL / DEWAR Berwickshire- GUNN / PURVES Worldwide PENUEL / PENIEL/ PENWELL and variants as a forename or surname.

In response to the question about dates for marriage and banns: I have a couple who I think have a similar pattern. One is from Craignish parish, Malcolm MCPHERSON, and Marion/Sarah MCCALLUM is from Kilmartin. I've seen the microfilm from Craignish which looks like banns but no wedding date. Haven't yet had a chance to look at Kilmartin, but my guess is that is where they married. The actual quote from the microfilm image is: "March 16th 1782 Malcolm McPherson in this parish and Marrion McCallum in the parish of Kilmartin gave in their names to be proclaimed in order to marriage. John McPherson in Carranmore cautionary for the parties" Others conclude with "...and were married..." and give a date for the marriage. Since it appears that she lived in Kilmartin, I need to get that microfilm now to check. The LDS site doesn't make a distinction on their IGI listings between banns and marriage.. They also don't distinguish between birth and baptism dates which are sometimes apparent on the microfilms & sometimes not D.Lou Ritter

Dear List, On the IGI I have found 2 marriage dates for couples with the names Alan and Mary CAMERON One is Dec 5th 1815 in the Archarcle Parish. The other is Dec 27th 1815 listed for Morvern.I believe Morvern and Arharcle are in the same general area and wondered if this could be the same couple perhaps with Banns read in different churches or something simular What does anyone with a knowledge of marriage traditions for the area think? Or were there just so many Camerons in the area that it would be more likely they are two different couples? regards Marilyn Cameron

Does anyone know if employment records exist for construction on the Caledonia Canal? I haven't a clue where to start. Kevin Jones Whitefish, Mt

----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Jones" <cte64912@centurytel.net> To: <SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 6:33 AM Subject: [ARGYLL] McClardy Hi Kevin, When was the large canal project in that region? Could the family have been working that to end up there. The Canal was started in 1803 and ended in 1822, it employed 3,000 men, work started from both ends, most of the work at the Neptunes Staircase in Fort William was done about 1819. Stuart, .......50 miles due west of Fort William