Hi All Many thanks for the info supplied. As all of it related to the 1881 census, I presume that my understanding of there being an 1891 census index was incorrect. Sorry about duplicating the request, my omissions on my first one obviously didn't matter. Alan

Hi Listers I'm reposting this as I omitted to include a subject description and also my e-mail address in my original note. I understand that there is a name index for the 1891 Scottish Census. If this is correct then could sks do a lookup for me please. I'm looking for the whereabouts of a Charles STEWART and his brother William STEWART, aged about 54 and 51 respectively. It is likely that they were born in either the parish of Logierait, or Kilmallie. I'm sorry not to have more information with which to identify them. Can someone also tell me if the 1881 Census has a name index also. Thanking you in anticipation. Alan alan_greenhouse@lineone.net

Hi Bob : Coulaghailtro is a farm very close to Kilberry, I used to work there, the nearest graveyard would be at Kilberry , half a mile along the road, though there may well be others completly ovegrown in the woods round about, sadly I live in Aberdeen now ,otherwise I may have been able to have been of more use to you, though I may be going down that direction later on in the summer. Regards Stewart Campbell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Ward" <rnward@earthlink.net> To: <SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 6:05 PM Subject: [ARGYLL] Coulaghailtro > Hi all, > > I've traced some of my ancestors from the McMurphy/McMurchy line to the > little town of Coulaghailtro near Kilberry castle. Does anyone know what > graveyards, churches or other genealogical resources are there or nearby? > >From what I can gather, it looks like a pretty small place... > > Thanks a lot. > > Bob > > Bob Ward > Acting Principal Horn > San Francisco Symphony > > researching: > WARD, PHILLIPS, COLE, ROWE, WIGHTMAN, MCMURPHY, HARTMAN, RUSSELL, > WEYMOUTH, CURTIS, PUSHOR, HANSON, TRUE, CAMPBELL, MACOMBER, WEST > > > ==== SCT-ARGYLL Mailing List ==== > **************************************************************** > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Park/8997/index.html an index to "THE INHABITANTS OF ARGYLL ESTATE" by Eric Greegan : Duke of Argyll's 1779 estate census >

Thanks for the help with the occupation "mason". One more question. I have been reading testiments (1800-1840) in Argyllshire and my name, William Stewart shows up in several places. Once he is called a "mason" and another place there is a William Stewart as a "wright". In your experience, would this be two separate individuals and/or trades. Am I looking at two different people? Thanks Melonie

Hi all, I've traced some of my ancestors from the McMurphy/McMurchy line to the little town of Coulaghailtro near Kilberry castle. Does anyone know what graveyards, churches or other genealogical resources are there or nearby? >From what I can gather, it looks like a pretty small place... Thanks a lot. Bob Bob Ward Acting Principal Horn San Francisco Symphony researching: WARD, PHILLIPS, COLE, ROWE, WIGHTMAN, MCMURPHY, HARTMAN, RUSSELL, WEYMOUTH, CURTIS, PUSHOR, HANSON, TRUE, CAMPBELL, MACOMBER, WEST

I am trying to find details of a Neil Robertson marrying a Flora Struthers probably at Kilcalmonell & Kilberry ca 1798. I know they have a son Daniel/Donald born 3 December 1798. Can anybody help please? Mary

Hi Everybody I was wondering if anyone has any information of the where about of a James Campbell who was born in May 1943 in Dunoon. He may still be living in the area. Any information would be great. Thanks Lynnette

Hi Alan, This is all I could find in the 1881 census from the information you gave. Hope it helps. Sheena. Dwelling: 515 Newcity Rd Census Place: Barony, Lanark, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203663 GRO Ref Volume 644-9 EnumDist 77 Page 21 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Charles STEWART M 42 M Logierait (G), Perth, Scotland Rel: Bro (Head) Occ: Carter Margaret STEWART M 45 F Dull (G), Perth, Scotland Rel: Wife John F. STEWART 13 M Glasgow Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Charles STEWART 11 M Glasgow Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Alexander STEWART 6 M Glasgow Rel: Son Dwelling: Tombuie Census Place: Logierait, Perth, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203508 GRO Ref Volume 376 EnumDist 1 Page 3 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Alexander STEWART M 63 M Dull, Perth, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Farmer Of 34 Acres Arable Mary STEWART M 58 F Logierait, Perth, Scotland Rel: Wife Occ: A Stewarts Wife Susan STEWART U 20 F Logierait, Perth, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Charles STEWART U 18 M Logierait, Perth, Scotland Rel: Son John STEWART U 17 M Logierait, Perth, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Mary STEWART U 15 F Logierait, Perth, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Maggie MC CALLUM 21 F Fortingall, Perth, Scotland Rel: Servant Occ: Domestic Servant Dwelling: Ballinluig Census Place: Dull, Perth, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203500 GRO Ref Volume 324 EnumDist 8 Page 3 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Wm. STEWART U 68 M Logierait, Perth, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Farmer (8 Acres Arable) Robt. STEWART U 64 M Logierait, Perth, Scotland Rel: Brother Occ: Farm Servant Isabella STEWART U 54 F Logierait, Perth, Scotland Rel: Sister Occ: Housekeeper Dwelling: Balachraggan Census Place: Logierait, Perth, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203508 GRO Ref Volume 376 EnumDist 6 Page 15 Marr Age Sex Birthplace William STEWART M 60 M Logierait, Perth, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Wood Labourer Barbara STEWART M 40 F Dowally, Perth, Scotland Rel: Wife James STEWART U 17 M Logierait, Perth, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Wood Labourer John STEWART U 8 M Logierait, Perth, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar William STEWART U 5 M Logierait, Perth, Scotland Rel: Son

Hi Alan: These are the entries for all Charles and William Stewart on the 1881 census for Argyll. I have also sent the index listings for all Charles Stewart born c.1837 (using a +1 & -1 year search) and the same for William Stewart born c.1840 to your private e-mail address because the list is too long to post here. If you see any entries you would like the details for, please e-mail me and I will send them to you. Sincerely, Lynne Kemp, Canada. STEWART, William Head <1790> Birth: Argy Campbeltown Census: Argy Campbeltown STEWART, William Head <1809> Birth: Renf Neilston Census: Argy Kilchoman STEWART, William Head <1810> Birth: Argy Campbeltown Census: Argy Campbeltown STEWART, William Head <1815> Birth: Argy Clachan Census: Argy Saddell & Skipness STEWART, William Head <1818> Birth: Dumf Census: Argy Kilmartin STEWART, William Head <1839> Birth: Argy Kilmartin Census: Argy Kilmore & Kilbride STEWART, Wm. Head <1847> Birth: Argy Campbeltown Census: Argy Campbeltown STEWART, William Head <1848> Birth: Kilcalmonell Whitehouse Census: Argy Kilcalmonell STEWART, William Son <1849> Birth: Argy Kilmartin Census: Argy Kilmartin STEWART, William Head <1856> Birth: Aber Old Machar Census: Argy Dunoon STEWART, William Bord <1859> Birth: Lana Carnwarth Census: Argy Campbeltown STEWART, William Bro <1859> Birth: Argy Campbeltown Census: Argy Campbeltown STEWART, William Son <1859> Birth: Argy Morven Census: Argy Morven STEWART, William Serv <1870> Birth: Argy Kilchoman Islay Census: Argy Bowmore STEWART, William Son <1873> Birth: Argy Inveraray Census: Argy Inveraray MC KAY (STEWART), William StSon <1874> Birth: Argy Tyree Census: Argy Tyree STEWART, William Robt. GSon <1876> Birth: Argy South Knappdale Census: Argy Glassary STEWART, William Son <1877> Birth: Argy Campbeltown Census: Argy Saddell & Skipness STEWART, William Adop <1880> Birth: Argy Campbeltown Census: Argy Campbeltown STEWART, William GSon <1880> Birth: Glasgow Census: Argy Inveraray STEWART, Charles Head <1801> Birth: Argy Ardnamurchan Census: Argy Ardnamurchan STEWART, Charles Head <1808> Birth: RoCr Ferintosh Census: Argy Kilmallie STEWART, Charles Gerard Son <1839> Birth: Indo Census: Argy Campbeltown STEWART, Charles Head <1852> Birth: Argy Oban Census: Argy Kilmore & Kilbride STEWART, Charles Son <1872> Birth: Lana Partick Census: Argy Kilmore & Kilbride STEWART, Charles GSon <1874> Birth: Argy Lismore Census: Argy Lismore STEWART, Charles Son <1880> Birth: Argy Campbeltown Census: Argy Campbeltown _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

Hi Listers I understand that there is a name index for the 1891 Scottish Census. If this is correct then could sks do a lookup for me please. I'm looking for the whereabouts of a Charles STEWART and his brother William STEWART, aged about 54 and 51 respectively. It is likely that they were born in either the parish of Logierait, or Kilmallie. I'm sorry not to have more information with which to identify them. Can someone also tell me if the 1881 Census has a name index also. Thanking you in anticipation. Alan

Alan, There is a name index to the 1881 Census on CD-ROM from Family Search. The cost is very low and includes a transcription of the census and the index. A quick search shows a number of possible matches which you would have to check against your other data for these brothers. Charles Stewart and William Stewart were popular names in Scotland.

I am keen to contact descendants of Hector McLEAN born 1802 Nth Knapdale who married Christian FISHER born 1807 Kilchrenan Dalavich on 16th Jan 1833 Their children are Neil born 16 11 1833 Duntaynish Nth Knapdale Christian born 6 10 1836 Auchish Sth Knapdale Malcolm born 10 Jan 1838 Auchish Sth Knapdale married Mary Lauder 1 1 1866 Greenock moved to Jarrow Newcastle Upon Tyne James born 9 3 1843 Duntaynish Nth Knapdale married Mary ? Isabel born 5 6 1845 Duntaynish Nth Knapdale Flora born 17 12 1847 married John Gordon born Kilfinanan 1840-1866 in Greenock 17 5 1866 moved to Dundee & emigrated to New Zealand abt 1912 Hector McLean was the son of Malcolm McLean & Katherine Graham of Nth Knapdale Flora (grand daughter of above Flora) New Zealand

------=_Part_880_7901909.1014571610563 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can anyone help Lynnette > lynnette@tarlogie.fsnet.co.uk > She replied > > Yes they are related > James was born in Dunoon in 1943 > Frances was James Mother also from Dunoon DOB unknown > Florence was Frances Mother DOB unknow > This is about all the information that I have. > > > On Sun 17th Feb Lynette Campbell wrote : > > > > > > Does anyone have any of the following in their family tree. > > > Florence Campbell > > > Frances Campbell > > > James Campbell > > > If any of the above ring any bell with anyone then let me know thanks. ------=_Part_880_7901909.1014571610563 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: <mail@bushtv-2.mail.telinco.net> Return-path: <lynnette@tarlogie.fsnet.co.uk> Envelope-to: leshorn@bushtv-2-internal.mail.telinco.net Delivery-date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 22:50:51 +0000 Received: from bushtv-1.mail.telinco.net ([212.1.128.182]) by bushtv-2.mail.telinco.net with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 16eOWf-0000wZ-00 for leshorn@bushtv-2-internal.mail.telinco.net; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 22:50:49 +0000 Received: from [195.92.193.215] (helo=mail12.svr.pol.co.uk) by bushtv-1.mail.telinco.net with esmtp (Exim 3.14 #7) id 16eOm3-000BZF-00 for leshorn@bushinternet.com; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 23:06:43 +0000 Received: from modem-1281.tiger.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.213.1] helo=lynnettesmith) by mail12.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 16eOm2-00033O-00 for leshorn@bushinternet.com; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 23:06:42 +0000 Message-ID: <004e01c1bbf5$2ba06c80$01d5883e@lynnettesmith> From: "lynnette smith" <lynnette@tarlogie.fsnet.co.uk> To: "Les Horn" <leshorn@bushinternet.com> References: <5767103.1014404315676.JavaMail.root@bushtv-java-2.server.telinco.net> Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Re: Campbell Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 23:03:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Hi Les Yes they are related James was born in Dunoon in 1943 Frances was James Mother also from Dunoon DOB unknown Florence was Frances Mother DOB unknow This is about all the information that I have. Cheers Lynnette ----- Original Message ----- From: "Les Horn" <leshorn@bushinternet.com> To: "lynnette smith" <lynnette@tarlogie.fsnet.co.uk> Cc: <sct-arl-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Re: Campbell > On Sun 17th Feb Lynette Campbell wrote : > > > > Does anyone have any of the following in their family tree. > > Florence Campbell > > Frances Campbell > > James Campbell > > If any of the above ring any bell with anyone then let me know thanks. > > > Could she please "give us a clue" > . > Are they related ? > Approximately when were they alive ? > . > Best Wishes > Les > Onich > Inverness-shire ------=_Part_880_7901909.1014571610563--

I am interested to know if any 1841 Census records exist for the Parish of Morvern, Argyll as I am looking for any LIVINGSTONE entries. My gt grandmother Ann LIVINGSTONE (b. ca 1822), sister Jean (b. 1823) and brother Robert LIVINGSTONE, (b. 1825) may still be in the Parish at this time. Their father was Adam LIVINGSTONE, a Miller of Savary, Morvern and mother, Margaret 'Peggy' McDONALD. TIA, Daryl Povey Daryl Povey, Ballarat, Aus - http://www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au South-West Victoria - http://www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/digby/ [ update anti-virus software at least weekly ]

If either of you is on this mailing list - the email addresses that I have for you on the Skipness parish web site are bouncing. Could you send me your latest email address for the page? I have: Sharon Hawkins - hawkins@fan.net.au Collin VanHorne - vanhorne1@island.net Sandy McLellan Priestner@attbi.com http://home.attbi.com/~priestner/Skipness/Skipness.htm

Hello List I am searching for Peter McQUEEN born c.1845 probably in the Argyll, Bute, Ayr area. Peter McQUEEN was a plasterer and his father Hugh McQUEEN was a wool merchant. Peter McQueen married Esther Sarah POTTER in London 1868. He returned to Rothesay in the mid 1870s and lived at 97 Montague Street, Rothesay. In 1877 his 4th daughter Lottie Leveniana was born. Any information please as I am at a dead end. Linda Pye Lancashire

Hi there, The Skipness parish web site is moving to http://home.attbi.com/~priestner/Skipness/Skipness.htm My email has also changed. Sandy McLellan Priestner@attbi.com

Have been busy lately and only lurking, but have to put in my two bob's worth. Getting these certificates can be useful but may be a disappointment, whether before 1855 or after. There are many errors, (I agree with the lister who suspected a wee dram on the way to the registry was correct) as well as the usual transcription problems with dialects being heard by someone other than a native speaker. I also suspect that there were speech impediments that we remedy these days. Examples I have found from OPRs are that on a page that gives scant name and parish one entry will suddenly note 'baptised in the manse', or an address other than the church, or a time of day for a ceremony, or an occupation when other entries do not state these. Another gives the time of day for a christening and the date of the parents' marriage as an extra footnote, and occupation at the time. Anne Maye

There is much talk on this and other lists on whether or not to obtain original OPR entries and whether its worth the cost or not. I know it to be a gamble - it seems to me that the amount of information you might find depends very much on the whim of the person who made the entry. Whereas they largely might only contain the names of the pertinent people and or parish there are enough surprises for gaining access to the original entry to be worthwhile. I have two that while my instincts tell me they are likely mine I can`t ever be sure - no occupation for one. But I have been researching a freinds ancestors some of whom where in Wandell and Lamington around the 1850`s and found that over a two year period in this small village the minister was unknowingly making himself a star in the family historians world - names and occupations yes, but also what time of day the event took place, what local building whether the kirk or the schoolhouse, fathers names and other brilliant clues to local connections. In the case of one death I felt I could go there and find the spot - yards between this building and that building where given. But I reiterate the gamble - I recently found an entry in 1840 for a couple who are probably my great-great-great grandparents Charles Pryce and Grace Ward - right wifes names and husbands christian name, right occupation and right location, right date - only trouble is the mans surname was given as Bryson.. by some stretch of the imagination you could see how the Irish accent might cause this problem.. Try saying Charles Pryce `n Grace Ward in an Irish accent and you can see what I mean! Not easy to say people should obtain the entries or not where cost is involved - but I would - just in case.. Anne

Hi, Seeking any details on John Taylor, born 14 Jul 1918, Calton, Glasgow . Died 1976 in hospital, in Lochgilphead, Argyll, buried in local cemetry, Lochgilphead. Believed to be a Farm Labourer. Hoping that someone may have known of him, and can supply some details of family, if any. Many thanks. Best regards, Alex Brown