I've just managed to find out that my gggrandfather was a joiner names Harry McIntyre (wife Christina no family known) on Ardkinglas Estate staying at East Lodge between 1908-1929. Do any of these scant details I have so far link in with anyone else out there? Katrina

Hello Janet, I read your message regarding your ancestors dying due to cholera in Jan.1854. Like you, I have found cholera was the reason several people died around this time. We found a husband and wife who died of cholera , within a day of each other, in Sep. 1854 in Montrose, Angus. This information came from the Montrose Parish Register. Regards, Keith (New Zealand)

Hi again, I've just sent a message about Betsy McGilp but realised that I've got the death date wrong. It should be 1945 not 1845. Sorry. Helen.

Hi listers, I'm trying to find relatives of my G.Grandmother. She was married twice,possibly three times.She was Betsy(Elizabeth) McGilp born in 1874,Kames,Kilfinan. She died in 1845 and is buried at Port Glasgow.She married Alexander Barr in Kilfinan,1895,he died before 1900 when she married Daniel McKinney. The other possible husband is Michael Kelly. If anyone has any information on any of these people or relatives please get in touch. Many Thanks, Helen.

Hi Janet Here is the address that I promised, hope it helps you. Argyll & Bute Council Development and Environmental Services Milton House Ferry Brae Dunoon Argyll PA23 7DX SCOTLAND Regards Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: <Tparkie@aol.com> To: <SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 2:18 PM Subject: [ARGYLL] Dunoon newspaper > My ancestors, Hector and Matilda GRAY, died of cholera within a day of each > other circa January 1854. I have been unable to find records of their deaths > and have exhausted any sources that I can think of. I am thinking that they > were buried in a Lyme pit. The one thing that I have not tried is a > newspaper account of their deaths. Is there a newspaper from this time > period (Jan 1854) that I might be able to find in a library in Dunoon? I > don't want to give up on this line. > > Thanks for any help that you can give. > Best wishes, > Janet in New York > > > ==== SCT-ARGYLL Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************* > GenUKI Argyll home page http://www.roe.ac.uk/genuki/argyll/index.html > >

Capturing in this missive, the sparing prose of Rambaud, <f2.1cab392f.2a320cb0@aol.com> and displaying the suave and sophisticated disposition of Archibald Leach, Tparkie@aol.com sgrìobh, >My ancestors, Hector and Matilda GRAY, died of cholera within a day of each >other circa January 1854. I have been unable to find records of their deaths >and have exhausted any sources that I can think of. I am thinking that they >were buried in a Lyme pit. The one thing that I have not tried is a >newspaper account of their deaths. Is there a newspaper from this time >period (Jan 1854) that I might be able to find in a library in Dunoon? I >don't want to give up on this line. > >Thanks for any help that you can give. >Best wishes, >Janet in New York Janet, the wee paper, www.dunoon-observer.co.uk -- Lachie Macquarie, "Norway, too, has noble wild prospects; and Lapland is remarkable for prodigious noble wild prospects. But, Sir, let me tell you, the noblest prospect which a Scotsman ever sees, is the high road that leads him to England!"

My ancestors, Hector and Matilda GRAY, died of cholera within a day of each other circa January 1854. I have been unable to find records of their deaths and have exhausted any sources that I can think of. I am thinking that they were buried in a Lyme pit. The one thing that I have not tried is a newspaper account of their deaths. Is there a newspaper from this time period (Jan 1854) that I might be able to find in a library in Dunoon? I don't want to give up on this line. Thanks for any help that you can give. Best wishes, Janet in New York

Dear Listers, Am I on the right list for folk in and around Dunoon? My road map doesnt even have Argyll anymore. Did it get the chop? If so it leaves me relying on distant memories. I am looking for the families above, Steven and Maria Chalmers nee McFarlane known to be in Dunoon 1881, along with Maria's parents Alexander and Ann nee Simpson along with son David and daughter Charlotte Maxwell Mcfarlane. Steven descends from James Chalmers and Janet Lauder. Janet descends from John Lauder, we know two of his brothers, Robert and William Murray Lauder but cant yet name his parents. The three brothers were born in St Ninians, so I expect I also need to contact a Stirlingshire list. Steven was a photographer. Does any one know if there if a local history soc in Dunoon which may have knowledge of a local photographer If any one recognises these families I'd be interested in trading information. I have dates etc for anyone wanting more detail. My knowledges stretches from 1782 John Lauder up to 1900 when Steven and his family left Dunoon as far as is known, (mostly for Rothesay). moira

Hello List, 1872 death certificate for Sarah MacFadyen (aged 72), who died Ardtun, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon Parish, Mull, shows parents as John and Catherine MacFadyen M.S. Macgilvray (spelling as on certificate). Does anyone recognise this family? Regards, Olwyn N.Z.

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Hi listers ,my name is Terry Murphy {new to the list] and was wondering if some one can point me in the right ?direction, as i am hoping to carry out some research into my GGG,grandfather a John Wilson [b?1825+ -] and parents were John Wilson [carpenter ][m] Isabella Colquhoun . when i sent for his death cert ,here in Brisbane 1884 all it said was he was born in the Highlands ,but on the shipping register states from Ballachullish ? noy knowing any thing re a parish , also he was married the 9-3-1845 at Gorbals Glasgow ,so is ?there any way of searching for his birth also his parents marriage ? Yours sincerely Terry Murphy researching names Reid /Darragh =Glasgow Thomson = Killmarnock Wilson = Ballachulish

Good evening, SKS recently identified from George Black's Scottish Surnames an additional ancient family of McCalls in Bute, M'Kails and M'Kaills. This is cross referenced to ancient McCalls of Dumfries-shire, which identifies Robert M'Kawele in 1370. M'Kerlie in "Lands and Owners of Galloway" on page 169 mentions Malcolm M'Kaill of Cantyre (or Bute) in 1306 fighting at Loch Ryan and the MacDougalls capturing and beheading him. Earlier writings mention Edgar M'Kaill or M'Kawele named Earl in Girvan by King David. Coming from 190 AD in Armagh after the assassination of the King of Lenister? and famine, MacCathmhaoil are raiding into Galloway and Wales. Around 450 AD there is a split of MacCathal of Hy and the Cholla Brothers who move to Argyll and later become MacColl and the MacCathal are listed as Kings in Connacht up to time of Edgar in Girvan. I'm trying to find the connection from Connacht to Ayrshire with King David. In a book on Castles in Scotland, I find several Land Grants to Irish Lords by King David, but haven't found this connection. Does SKS have any info? On a warm summer day in Carolina, Ron McCall www.clanmccall.org

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I don't who W32.Klez.Hmm is, but whoever you are, you have a virus. I have received 4 messages with your signature this week, and my virus scanner stopped all of your messages. Just thought you'd like to know. Lynn in Baltimore marylindsay1@comcast.net

My great grandmother (Jessie ARMSTRONG) was born on the Ardkinglas Estate in approx 1826. She was christened on 17 June 1827, Canobie,Dumfries. The birth information came from her death certificate and the Christening from the LSD Site. Oral Family History says that she was related to the Campbell's and back to the Duke of Argyll, however I have not been able to establish this, but I did find a site on the Internet that said the ARDKINGLAS Estate was owned by the Campbell's and wonder if this is where the 'Myth???" arose. A cousin here in Australia has a linen tablecloth which was apparently a wedding present from the Campbell's when Jessie married George ANNAND in Largs, County Ayr on 20 August 1852 (I have the original certificate) It is also said that Lady Janet Campbell went to Greenock, Glasgow to farewell the couple when they sailed for Australia on 11 September 1852 aboard the 'Aberfoyle'. Other confirmed family members are ALEXANDER ARMSTRONG b 12 Jan 1821 Stirling and JANE ARMSTRONG (who married Robert Porteous) I am seeking any information re 1. Ardkinglas Estate 2. Are all these places in close proximity.... 3. Any information about Jessie, her parents and siblings Thank you Helene Helene J Hayes Pakenham, Victoria, Australia helenh@nex.net.au

Ardkinglas house didn't exist until 1907 when it was built by a man called Robert Lorimer but I'm not sure if the actual estate existed before that date. Ardkinglas is on the east shore of Loch Fyne next to the village or Cairndow (Kilmorich and Lochgoilhead parish) but would come under the lands of the Duke or Argyll and in distance is very close to Inverary where the family seat is.(+/- 5 miles). These days Ardkinglas house is open for corporate events and as a location for film and tv (the dramatisation of Iain Banks 'The Crow Road' was set around it and the gardens have been turned into woodland walks. There is a website, www.ardkinglas.com with a contact email address. Katrina Halsey Mungungo wrote: > My great grandmother (Jessie ARMSTRONG) was born on the Ardkinglas Estate > in approx 1826. She was christened on 17 June 1827, Canobie,Dumfries. The > birth information came from her death certificate and the Christening from > the LSD Site. > > Oral Family History says that she was related to the Campbell's and back to > the Duke of Argyll, however I have not been able to establish this, but I > did find a site on the Internet that said the ARDKINGLAS Estate was owned > by the Campbell's and wonder if this is where the 'Myth???" arose. A cousin > here in Australia has a linen tablecloth which was apparently a wedding > present from the Campbell's when Jessie married George ANNAND in Largs, > County Ayr on 20 August 1852 (I have the original certificate) It is also > said that Lady Janet Campbell went to Greenock, Glasgow to farewell the > couple when they sailed for Australia on 11 September 1852 aboard the > 'Aberfoyle'. > > Other confirmed family members are ALEXANDER ARMSTRONG b 12 Jan 1821 > Stirling and JANE ARMSTRONG (who married Robert Porteous) > > I am seeking any information re > 1. Ardkinglas Estate > 2. Are all these places in close proximity.... > 3. Any information about Jessie, her parents and siblings > > Thank you > > Helene > > Helene J Hayes > Pakenham, Victoria, Australia > > helenh@nex.net.au > > ==== SCT-ARGYLL Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************* > GenUKI Argyll home page http://www.roe.ac.uk/genuki/argyll/index.html

Melanie With all due respects I would suggest that before circulating Virus Warnings you do a little checking. If you go to http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/jdbgmgr.exe.file.hoa x.html you will find that it is a hoax. Dave MacKinven Auckland New Zealand davidj1947@xtra.co.nz Cuimhnich air na daoine bbo'n d'thanaig thu" - "Remember those from whom you spring"

This is not a virus in the ordinary sense. It is a combination of a 'quasi' virus and a hoax exhorting the unsuspecting to delete a common bona fide file. for more info go to www.symantec.com. regards gabrielle >Sorry Guys... >But I just received a message from one of my contacts that my >address book may have been infected by a virus >(called jdbgmgr.exe) >not detected by Norton or McAfee antivirus systems. >The virus stays quiet for 14 days before damaging the system. It is >sent automatically by the Messenger and by the address book, whether >or not you sent e-mails to your contacts. >I don't know when I got it but we checked, found and deled it. >YOU should do the following: >1. Go to start, Find or search option >2. In the Files/folder option, write the name jdbgmgr.exe >3. Be sure you search in you C:drive >if you have more that one hard drive >go to MY Computer >4. Click "Find now" >5. The virus has a little bear icon with the name jdbgmgr.exe >DO NOT OPEN IT >6. Right click and delete it (it will then go to the Recycle Bin) >7. Go to the Recycle Bin and delete it there as well, or empty the bin. > >IF YOU FIND THE VIRUS YOU MUST CONTACT ALL THE PEOPLE IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK. >SO THEY CAN ERADICATE IT IN THEIR ADDRESS BOOKS. > > >==== SCT-ARGYLL Mailing List ==== >***************************************************************** >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Argyll is the >GenConnect board for Argyll -- Ms Gabrielle Baker Finance Officer General Manager's Office Faculty of Education University of Melbourne Phone: 8344 3439 Fax: 8344 8542 Email: gbake@unimelb.edu.au

To all Listers THIS IS A BOGUS HOAX. DO NOT FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS TO DELETE ANYTHING OR NOTIFY ALL YOUR ADDRESSES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melonie Crnich" <mcrnich@allwest.net> To: <SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:22 AM Subject: [ARGYLL] Virus Warning > Sorry Guys... > But I just received a message from one of my contacts that my address book may have been infected by a virus > (called jdbgmgr.exe) > not detected by Norton or McAfee antivirus systems. > The virus stays quiet for 14 days before damaging the system. It is sent automatically by the Messenger and by the address book, whether or not you sent e-mails to your contacts. > I don't know when I got it but we checked, found and deled it. > YOU should do the following: > 1. Go to start, Find or search option > 2. In the Files/folder option, write the name jdbgmgr.exe > 3. Be sure you search in you C:drive > if you have more that one hard drive > go to MY Computer > 4. Click "Find now" > 5. The virus has a little bear icon with the name jdbgmgr.exe > DO NOT OPEN IT > 6. Right click and delete it (it will then go to the Recycle Bin) > 7. Go to the Recycle Bin and delete it there as well, or empty the bin. > > IF YOU FIND THE VIRUS YOU MUST CONTACT ALL THE PEOPLE IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK. > SO THEY CAN ERADICATE IT IN THEIR ADDRESS BOOKS. > > > ==== SCT-ARGYLL Mailing List ==== > ******************************************************************* > http://members.aol.com/theweeharp/argyll.htm is the Argyll GenWeb site >

Sorry Guys... But I just received a message from one of my contacts that my address book may have been infected by a virus (called jdbgmgr.exe) not detected by Norton or McAfee antivirus systems. The virus stays quiet for 14 days before damaging the system. It is sent automatically by the Messenger and by the address book, whether or not you sent e-mails to your contacts. I don't know when I got it but we checked, found and deled it. YOU should do the following: 1. Go to start, Find or search option 2. In the Files/folder option, write the name jdbgmgr.exe 3. Be sure you search in you C:drive if you have more that one hard drive go to MY Computer 4. Click "Find now" 5. The virus has a little bear icon with the name jdbgmgr.exe DO NOT OPEN IT 6. Right click and delete it (it will then go to the Recycle Bin) 7. Go to the Recycle Bin and delete it there as well, or empty the bin. IF YOU FIND THE VIRUS YOU MUST CONTACT ALL THE PEOPLE IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK. SO THEY CAN ERADICATE IT IN THEIR ADDRESS BOOKS.