Thank you so much to all who responded to my quest for more information on the Dictionary of Scottish Emigrants to Canada Before Confederation by Donald Whyte. I now have all the information I need to track the volumes down. Thank you again. Lorraine Ontario, Canada

In a message dated 6/19/02 5:03:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, SCT-ARGYLL-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > any history scholars who could tell us what life was like for working folk > in the second half of the 18th century? > While I'm not a history scholar, you might try <A HREF="http://edina.ac.uk/cgi/StatAcc/StatAcc.cgi">The Statistical Accounts of Scotland</A> These were written by the ministers of each parish in Scotland in the 1790s and again in 1845. They were apparently given a series of questions to answer and each responded in his own way. Some are very short and others provide a fascinating and detailed glimpse into where and how our ancestors lived. Select Argyll and the year and then the parish.

Recently I saw a book recommended on which I would like more information. It was titled A Dictionary of Scottish Emigrants to Canada Before Confederation. It was written by Donald Whyte and published in 1986, if I am correct. I contacted my local library and they don't have it. Can anyone tell me where it might be available and add any other information such as publisher that is available. Thank you, Lorraine Ontario, Canada

Trying to put a pen picture of the Duror area together. Would appreciate any additions or amendments to this draft for the benefit of wider family who will never get there.Population? What is there at Duror now? Regards and thanks from 12000 miles away. Les and Gloria. Who were John and Cissie Duff ? When we visited Casino, NSW, in 2001, Jean Attwell, a descendant of William Duff, provided us with two photographs of a Scottish railway station (location unknown) that had been sent to the family at Casino by "Cousin John Duff" and his wife Cissie (Cecilia?). It appears they visited the Duff families in Northern NSW, 1915-20(?), and the story was confirmed by Jim Duff of Lismore. He said he could remember their visit as a child and the Duff children followed John and Cissie about listening to the "funny accent." If the relationship is correct this would indicate that Thomas Duff Senior had a brother at least who remained in Scotland. Copies of the two photos: John Duff in a stationmaster's uniform, standing on a platform in front of the station building; the other of his wife standing on the steps of an unnamed building, the rear of the station, which indicated accommodation on the first floor. It was suggested that the cap-badge indicated the Caledonian Railways and the ph! otos were sent to the Caledonian Railways Association in Scotland, a group undertaking the preservation of this Railway company. After much delay it was determined that the station was Duror, Parish of Lismore-Appin, Argyll, on the Connel Ferry/Oban - Ballachulish branch line. This line was originally owned by the Callander-Oban Railway Company, and operated for them by the Caledonian Railway Company. Ballachulish is a small town, near the famous Glencoe, and Ben Neavis mountain. Each year this area is visited by thousands of tourists. It was also known for its slate and granite quarries and these materials were sent by rail south to Oban, passing through Ballachulish Ferry (road link to Fort William to the north); Kentallen; Duror; Appin; Creagan; Barcaldine Goods; Benderloch; North Connel; Connel Ferry Junction and on to Oban. This line appears to have been completed about 1901. It appears that the hamlet(?) of Duror consisted of the station (now a house), two Churches, a ! school, hotel/inn, and in earlier times, possibly a ferry to Ballachulish and Fort William, as all these places are situated on the eastern shore of Loch Linnhe. This loch is linked by Loch Lochy and a canal to the also famous Loch Ness and Inverness to the north. These lochs nearly separate the western highlands from the rest of Scotland, being formed through early Ice-Age glacial action. (Research continuing.)

Hello listers Having had no luck with any information re Archibald McCALLUM thought I'd try his wife Anne GILLIES. They were married in Kilmodan on 8th August 1776 and I am assuming that Anne was of that parish - the wedding being from the brides home as is usual nowadays - but perhaps that was not the case in the 18th century. Someone more knowledgeable than me can perhaps let the list know. How far would people travel in that era for work? - perhaps I've been wrong to imagine Archibald came from Kilmodan too. In an newspaper article printed in 1895, Archibald and Anne's grandson (also Archibald McCALLUM b 1816) states his "grandfather lived until 99 years and 9 months old, and remembers him dilating upon herding cattle on Loch Lomondside in the time of Prince Charlie, protecting them from being taken or stolen by either of the rebel forces." I'm no historian but I thought Prince Charlie was about 1745 and these dates don't really tally with me. True story or the ramblings of an elderly gentleman?? So - anybody researching GILLIES? any history scholars who could tell us what life was like for working folk in the second half of the 18th century? Eagerly await your replies Kay

Dorothy Further to postings advising you of the location of Loch Etive, the parishes which border on Loch Etive are Ardchattan on the northern shores and Muckairn [centred on the village that nowadays is called Taynuilt] on the southern shores. My gg grandmother was Mary MacCOLL b circa 1828 at 'Balindore', Muckairn. She married John MacNIVEN on 4 September 1846. Mary MacCOLL's parents were John MacCOLL & Ann MUNRO but I don't have any other details on them, as I am yet to research them. Elizabeth Shearer 'Balindore', Palmerston North, New Zealand ----- Original Message ----- From: Dorcatomc@aol.com If anyone has the time will you please tell me where Loch Etive is located. John McColl was born there in 1764 and I am hoping to find that he is my ancestor. Thank you, Dorothy

Can anybody help me with the following family? Edward MITCHELL born 1804 in Campbeltown married Barbra MCCALLUM in 1835. They had the following children (all dates are christening dates and all were in Campbeltown) Hamilton 1836 Mary 1838 Alexander 1840 Agnes 1842 Daniel 1844 Mary 1847 Jessie 1849 Edward 1853 Neil Agnew 1855 Daniel married Margaret Cameron in 1866. They had the following children (dates are birthdates and all in Campbeltown) Edward 1866 Catherine 1868 Hugh Cameron 1870 Barbara 1872 Euphemia 1874 Daniel Maggie Hugh Cameron MITCHELL married Jean (Jane) Allan McCORMICK in 1892. These are my great-grandparents. Thanks for all your help, Debbie Debbie Dickson Sydney, Australia

My grandfather's brother Alexander HENDERSON married in 1907 in NZ a cousin JESSIE DAVIDON HENDERSON born maybe in Oban about 1880. Jessie's brother a sailor evidently visited NZ around 1907. Is anybody else researching HENDERSONs? Alexander's father was Archibald born in Tobermory 1838. He also had a brother Alexander born 1836 in Tobermory. Jane in Auckland _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

Greetings everyone This is my first message. My grandparents were ALEXANDER and ELIZABETH MACFARLANE. Elizabeth nee MACNAIR My late mother ALEXANDRINA MACFARLANE had two brothers WALTER AND WILLIAM and in her young days they all lived in Campbelltown. I can find nothing on the family at all, its a bit like Smith and hard to work out. Mum was born 1900 so I am looking prior to that. All advice VERY MUCH appreciated Jean Tuckey New Zealand

------=_Part_1529_4886340.1024354828054 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > -----Original Message----- > From: margaretkipp@rogers.com (Margaret Kipp) > Sent: Sun Jun 16 16:03:40 BST 2002 > To: leshorn@bushinternet.com (Les Horn); SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] 1881 CENSUS DUROR Margaret Kipp wrote : > Can someone explain what a quod sacra parish is? Everyone seems to know >but me! thank you > Margaret in Toronto . A Quod Sacra Parish is effectively a Parish within a Parish. The old Sottish Parishes were established pre 1800 and were that area around a Parish curch from which its attendees/parishioners came. During the late 17th/early 19th century there was a lot of movement of people in and out of Parishes and, where the population grew too large for a particular church it was the practise to establish a further church in a Quod Sacra Parish. . The dictionary definition of Quod Sacra is : . "as far as concerns sacred matters of a church disjoined for ecclesiastical purposes only" ; Hope this helps. I'm sure if it doesn't Wilf Bigwood will come up with an alternative definition. . Best Wishes . Les ------=_Part_1529_4886340.1024354828054 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: <mail@bushtv-2.mail.telinco.net> Return-path: <margaretkipp@rogers.com> Envelope-to: leshorn@bushtv-2-internal.mail.telinco.net Delivery-date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 16:09:59 +0100 Received: from bushtv-1.mail.telinco.net ([212.1.128.182]) by bushtv-2.mail.telinco.net with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 17JbfD-000FVo-00 for leshorn@bushtv-2-internal.mail.telinco.net; Sun, 16 Jun 2002 16:09:59 +0100 Received: from [66.185.86.71] (helo=fep01-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com) by bushtv-1.mail.telinco.net with esmtp (Exim 3.14 #7) id 17JbfF-00022D-00 for leshorn@bushinternet.com; Sun, 16 Jun 2002 16:10:01 +0100 Received: from cr266171a ([24.103.131.201]) by fep01-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com (InterMail vM.5.01.04.13 201-253-122-122-113-20020313) with ESMTP id <20020616150923.YAKZ161368.fep01-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@cr266171a>; Sun, 16 Jun 2002 11:09:23 -0400 Message-ID: <003d01c21546$fff474e0$c9836718@ym.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> From: "Margaret Kipp" <margaretkipp@rogers.com> To: "Les Horn" <leshorn@bushinternet.com>, <SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com> References: <4081527.1024135773227.JavaMail.root@bushtv-java-2.server.telinco.net> Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] 1881 CENSUS DUROR Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 11:03:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH LOGIN at fep01-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com from [24.103.131.201] using ID <margaretkipp@rogers.com> at Sun, 16 Jun 2002 11:09:23 -0400 Can someone explain what a quod sacra parish is? Everyone seems to know but me! thank you Margaret in Toronto ------=_Part_1529_4886340.1024354828054--

Francis Hunter, could you please contact me off list. E-mail 'replied' to your address are being returned. The e-mail you sent me was blank. Col Dewar

H ello, My Gt. Grandmother, Janet Provan , was born at Cretshengan in 1864. Her Father was Andrew Provan b. 1837 in Paisley, and her Mother was Mary Provan nee Martin. Her Grandparents were Margaret Martin nee Gillies and John Martin. By 1881, John had died; but Margaret Martin was still living at Cretshengan that time. She was my 3xGt. Grandmother. It seems that there were 7 dwellings at Cretshengan in 1881. We are hoping to visit there soon. Does anyone know if these dwellings are still there and where we can find out which one the Martins lived in? Andrew Provan was later the County Blacksmith for Renfrewshire. He and his family lived in Govan in 1881. Was he perhaps the Blacksmith on a local estate at Cretshengan, or did he and my Gt Gt GrandmaMary Provan [nee Martin] go home to her Mother for the birth of my Gt Grandmother? Mysteries to solve. Can anyone help, please? Kindest regards, Beryl.

Loch Etive is just north of oban on the west coast and runs inland from the sea. Katrina Dorcatomc@aol.com wrote: > If anyone has the time will you please tell me where Lock Etive is located. > John McColl was born there in 1764 and I am hoping to find that he is my > ancestor. > Thank you, > Dorothy > > ==== SCT-ARGYLL Mailing List ==== > ***************************************************************** > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Argyll is the > GenConnect board for Argyll

If anyone has the time will you please tell me where Lock Etive is located. John McColl was born there in 1764 and I am hoping to find that he is my ancestor. Thank you, Dorothy

I am looking for Campbell's in or around Lochgoilhead. All I have to go by is a Catherine Campbell who married there in 1863. Evidence suggests she came from this area and was probably born late 1830's early 1840's. I know this is pretty broad, but it is all I have to go on at the present. I don't even know if there were Campbell's in the area at the time. If any one can shed any light on this name, it would be greatly appreciated. Colin Dewar Brisbane, Australia

Can someone explain what a quod sacra parish is? Everyone seems to know but me! thank you Margaret in Toronto

Would appreciate pen picture/memories of Duror at any time. Based on my scant understanding of what I have picked up in recent days it was a way station: main line and passing loop; two churches, school, and an Inn/Hotel where the ferry used(?) to go to Fort William. Did the locals "come down out of the hills" to go to church and school as I can find very few born/living at Duror in the Appin census 1881? Any assistance appreciated. Les and Gloria, Napier, NZ.

Good Morning, Brenda found this in 1851 census, Marchhouse, Penpont Thomas Mccall, Head, widower,56, carter, born Penpont Sarah, daughter, 19, employed at home, born Penpont Thomas, son, 17, farm servant, born Penpont ( moved to New Cummock) James, son, 14, farme servant, born Penpont ( became Blacksmith at Keir) Since Kier is not a large town, he likely worked for McMillans after they invented the bicycle? Since the information on the ancient Mccalls of Bute in Black's Surnames, the family of Sir John McCall is beginning to be found in Kenmore. John McCaill christened 27 August 1648 in Kenmore, Perth, Scotland. His parents were John McCaill and Catrein Neichlearich. From IGI Batch number C113602. Still looking for Edgar, Earl of Girvan in 1124 Hope you all have a great Father's Day and Simon can announce the Clan McCall at GMHG anytime. Ron McCall www.clanmccall.org

Hello Listers , I'm new to your list . My surname interests in Scotland are Wykes / Coupland . Wykes from UK and Coupland from Scotland .I would love to hear from anyone researching these names . Regards , David Wykes , Melbourne ,Australia .

Does any one have information on Margaret (More) McSporran, born about 1773 in Campbeltown. She married John McSporran on 16 August 1797, Campbeltown. They had the following children - John, Barbara, Christin, Christina and Archibald.