Hello List, As a new member to the list I was looking in the archives and found references to a census of 1820 (I think) - of the Duke of Argyll's tenants - please can anyone tell me where it covered and how to find it? I am particularly interested in Gigha and the Mull of Kintyre. Many thanks, Mary in Australia Argyllshire:McNEIL, McGOUGAN Ayrshire: MORRISON, CAMPBELL, LOGAN, SLOAN, TEMPLETON, MacKAY (McKAY,McKEE, McKIE), GOLDIE, DUNBAR, BROWN.

Excerpt from "Scottish Snippets": MacCallum Curse Lifted After 450 Years According to legend, handed down through the generations, some time in the 1550s the members of the MacCallum clan were gathered in the church in Kilbride in Argyll for the Sunday service. But there were so many of them that when members of the rival MacDougall clan arrived, there was no room for them and they had to stand outside. This prompted Lady MacDougall (who had the gift of the "evil eye") to place a curse on the MacCallums to the effect that the sons and heirs would die off if they did not move from their home at Cologin. Sure enough, over the next few years, nine out of the 12 MaCallum sons died and the remainder fled to avoid the same fate. Now, in a ceremony at Grandfather Mountain, North Carolina, where a well-attended Highland Games take place each year, a MacDougall will try to lift the curse. The plan is to have a group of MacCallums blocking the entrance and then stand aside and invite them in. Not that there is a church handy - the ceremony will be held at a beer tent, but it's the thought that counts. Unfortunately, the Lyon clerk at the Court of the Lord Lyon in Edinburgh, responsible for all heraldry in Scotland, says that for the ceremony to be official, the clan chiefs would need to be present. But there is no head of the MacCallums - the small clan merged with the Malcom clan many years ago.

Margaret McNAIR was born about 1809. at Achantain in Kilmodan Parish. Her parents were Alexander MCNAIR and Elizabeth THOMPSON. Margaret married Daniel BROWN at Inverchaolin on 15 December 1831 and their son Donald BROWN was christened at Inverchaolain on 26 January 1833. It appears that Daniel died soon after that, since a second marriage is recorded to Duncan BAXTER on 12 May 1836. If anyone has information about Daniel's death or what happened to the child Donald, I would be delighted to hear from them. Margaret had 11 children to her second husband but Donald BROWN does not show among them in the subsequent censuses. Mary Hamilton

Hi All I have just updated my website with the complete transcripts of the World War 2 fallen from the Campbeltown War Memorial along with a few photos. I hope to have all World War 1 within the next couple of days. I have noted that there is a few problems with the pages and I am working on those issues but everything should be accessable and readable. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~djmack/ Dave MacKinven New Zealand davidj1947@xtra.co.nz Cuimhnich air na daoine bbo'n d'thanaig thu" - "Remember those from whom you spring"

Does anyone know if Memorial Inscriptions are available for the Kilchattan cemetery on the Isle of Luing? Jean

Sheila at esquipi@sofnet.com asked about Gilbert McINTYRE and his family at Ardchatten in the 1851 Census. . As I have access to the Ardchatten Census' I will look up her family for her, probably next week. . Les Onich Inverness-shire

Hi Steve, Thanks for those pages - they are very helpful. Best regards, Mary in Australia

Hi, Can anyone tell me if Dunadd is located within the parish of Glassary and would it be covered by the 1841 Census of Glassary ? I am looking for Malcolm MCKELLAR & Mary MCKELLAR (nee MCLACHLAN) married in 1831 with the following children. Mary born 1831 John born 1833 Angus born 1835 Neil born 1837 ===== Regards, David Wells Sydney, Australia There should be NO attachments associated with this e-mail. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

Hi, I'm confused! Was it at all normal to name your first son after your father in law? I've seen it several times and, whilst applauding the fathers tact, I've always thought they usually named the child after the fathers father? Could it have been because the wife's family was better off? Anthea Lowe Ceduna, South Australia Researching: HYMUS/ HYMAS(Essex, Cambridge,Bedford & worldwide), BARRETT/CRANE (Suffolk), CLAYDON/ WARREN/ STUBBING/ GROUT/ HART/ CLARK/ BREWSTER/CUMBERS/PIGGOTT/BUTTOLPH/CHAPMAN/SARGEANT/READER/WEBB (Essex); SMITH (Buckinghamshire); CHRISTIE (Lanarkshire);WEIR (Argyll & Glasgow); MCKECHNIE(Arnamurchan/Aharacle); RICHARDSON (West Indies, prev. Scotland); & Marie- Antoinette ANDERSON(West Indies). _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

I wonder if any kind soul out there has access to the 1851 census? I'm trying to confirm a family I found many years ago (and didn't keep proper notes about!). The family group would be in Ardchattan parish, Argyll, and included Gilbert MacIntyre, 74; Flory, 70; Donald, 47; Ann; Archibald, 42; and Cathrine, 25. Can anyone find this family and give me any details I've missed? TIA TIA TIA!! Sheila

hi anthea, if you (or others!) are interested, i have a page on my website (URL below) that gives a couple of descriptions of the "scottish naming patterns".... cheers, steve gilchrist seattle http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/namingse.htm ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ----- Original Message ----- From: "ANTHEA LOWE" <anthlow@hotmail.com> To: <SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 6:22 PM Subject: [ARGYLL] Re: Naming Patterns > Hi, I'm confused! > > Was it at all normal to name your first son after your father in law? I've > seen it several times and, whilst applauding the fathers tact, I've always > thought they usually named the child after the fathers father? Could it > have been because the wife's family was better off? > > Anthea Lowe > Ceduna, South Australia > > Researching: HYMUS/ HYMAS(Essex, Cambridge,Bedford & worldwide), > BARRETT/CRANE (Suffolk), CLAYDON/ WARREN/ STUBBING/ GROUT/ HART/ CLARK/ > BREWSTER/CUMBERS/PIGGOTT/BUTTOLPH/CHAPMAN/SARGEANT/READER/WEBB (Essex); > SMITH (Buckinghamshire); CHRISTIE (Lanarkshire);WEIR (Argyll & Glasgow); > MCKECHNIE(Arnamurchan/Aharacle); RICHARDSON (West Indies, prev. Scotland); & > Marie- Antoinette ANDERSON(West Indies). > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > ==== SCT-ARGYLL Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > Need an LDS film number to order a film at your local LDS library? Try > http://geocities.com/Heartland/Garden/1311/13300-scottishreference.htm >

Hi Listers, As people seem to be posting their great grandparents to the List, thought I would add mine. Sorry if this is going to be a nuisance to those of you who do not subscribe to the Digest form of the List, but here goes: My husband's great grandparents were: 1. Thomas Henry BROWN,bricklayer and then Clerk of Works, born in Kenilworth,Warwickshire, 1842, son of John BROWN and Mary LEATHERLAND. He was married in1874 at St. Mary the Virgin, Welford, Northampton to 2. Emily KNIGHT, born in Welford, Northamptonshire, 1851, daughter of Thomas KNIGHT and Louisa BILLING. The BROWNs moved to West Derby, Liverpool sometime after their marriage. 3. John ELLIS, Master butcher and Justice of the Peace, born in Liverpool, 1862, son of John ELLIS ( from Flint, Wales ) and Frances WOOLLEY ( from Cheshire ). He was married in 1883 at Christ Church, Kensington, Liverpool to 4. Mary Jane GUNN, born in Eyemouth, Berwickshire, 1860, daughter of Daniel / Donald GUNN and Mary PURVES. 5. ? McCRUMLISH born possibly in Killyclogher, Co. Tyrone 6. unknown at this time Their daughter was Rose- Anne McCRUMLISH born in Omagh, Tyrone in 1884. Rose-Anne married Patrick TRAYNOR abt. 1907. 7.unknown TRAYNOR 8.unknown My great grandparents were: 1. Neil SMITH, shipwright, born in Kilmartin, Argyllshire, Scotland, 1844, son of Angus SMITH and Margaret ORR. He was married in 1872 at 10 Terrace Road, Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland to 2. Jane MCPHAIL born in Lochgair, Argyllshire in 1845, daughter of Duncan MCPHAIL and Sarah DEWAR. 3. James McMillan JOHNSTONE, journeyman enginefitter, born in Old Cumnock, Ayrshire, Scotland in 1859, son of John JOHNSTONE and Jean Mitchell MCMILLAN. He was married in 1882 in Old Cumnock, Ayrshire to 4. Penuel Baillie ROSS born in Old Cumnock, Ayrshire in 1857, the daughter of Alexander ROSS and Margaret DUNSMORE 5. Archibald Carr BURNS, marine engineer, born in Tynemouth, Northumberland in 1860, son of Andrew BURNS and Susan GOODMAN. He was married in 1888 at St. Stephen's Church, Low Elswick, Newcastle-upon-Tyne to 6. Mary Graham HUNTER,born in Newcastle in 1866, daughter of John Thomas Burdon HUNTER and Mary GRAHAM. 7. William ALMOND, fish auctioneer, born in Hepscott, Morpeth, Northumberland in 1863, son of Wright ALMOND and Ruth Julia COWANS. He was married in 1892 in Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland to 8. Lizzie Isabel HERDMAN, born in Seaton Delaval, Bebside, Co. Durham in 1866, daughter of William HERDMAN and Elizabeth Mary MARSHALL. If anyone has any connection to any of the above, please get in touch. Regards, Penuel Ellis-Brown

My MacCALLUMs come from Black Croft/Connell Ferry area. July 1813 Dugald MacCALLUM and Janet MacILRIACH both in this parish (of Ardchattan) gave in their names in order to marriage the 24th of July and were married 2 August (1813). May 1816 Dugald MacCALLUM and Janet MacILRIACH at Achnairimore had a child born the 8th of May and bapt. 12th, named Donald. (Parish of Ardchattan) Janet was born August 1796 in Muckairn, Argyl to Colin MacILRIACH and Janet MacCALLUM. I am trying to locate information on the MacILRIACH family please. TIA Claire Cook Houston Texas

Hi List While searching for a place name in Scotland I came across this great site http://www.scan.org.uk/knowledgebase/search/gazetteer_indexnew.asp It has farm names ,house names etc, as well as town names Still no luck with my Swanhurst or Sevanhurst in Argyle though Regards Marilyn Cameron

Researching this family that lived in the Parish of Kilfinichen, Isle of Mull, :- Alan McCormick m Ann Morison (dates unknown) Their family that I have found. Mary b1805 Duncan b1813 m 4/4/1836 Catherine Campbell b c1811 (based on census records) Their family Mary b1838 Donald b 1842 John b 1842 Christina b 1846 Allan b 1849 Charles b 1855 d c1856 Archibald b 1856 At the time of Duncan's birth the family was living in Siaba. Duncan & Catherine lived in Shiaba & the surrounding area also. Duncan was listed in the 1851 census as a carrier & is mentioned in the book "The Island of Mull" written by John Mac Cormick. A signed copy was sent to my grandfather in 1925. Archibald was my grandfather & emigrated to New Zealand in 1879. I have details of his brothers & sisters families except for John & Allan. It is generally understood that both J ohn & Allan emigrated also bit we have been unable to establish where. Am seeking any imformation regarding John and or Allan. Malcolm McCormick Ashburton, New Zealand

Hello Argyll, I am new to this list and would be thrilled if anyone has any connections with or ideas regarding my Argyllshire ancestors. My GGG-Grandmother was Mary McNeil born on the Isle of Gigha in 1799. She had somehow reached Ayrshire and married Ronald Morrison there in 1824. Her parents were Murdoch McNeil and Catherine McGougan who married in 1789 in Killean and Kilchenzie. They seem to have produced many children on Gigha but I don't know how to follow them. I can't find Murdoch McNeil's birth nor Catherine McGougan's either. I've sent for the Gigha PRs but they have not arrived yet. Many thanks for any help. Mary in Australia

The Book you are referring to, A Dictionary of Scottish Emigrants to Canada, is available from AddAll.com for various different prices. The descriptions tell you a little about the contents of the book. "Biographical/genealogical notes on 11,213 Scots who settled in Canada in the period prior to Confederation (1867)." I hope this helps. Grace Macdougall Mynatt

Going on holiday ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorraine Dunning" <taydun@sympatico.ca> To: <SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 4:48 PM Subject: [ARGYLL] book search > Recently I saw a book recommended on which I would like more information. It was titled A Dictionary of Scottish Emigrants to Canada Before Confederation. It was written by Donald Whyte and published in 1986, if I am correct. I contacted my local library and they don't have it. Can anyone tell me where it might be available and add any other information such as publisher that is available. > Thank you, > Lorraine > Ontario, Canada > > > ==== SCT-ARGYLL Mailing List ==== > ******************************************************************* > http://members.aol.com/theweeharp/argyll.htm is the Argyll GenWeb site > > >

Hello Listers, I have just received a transcript of an 1858 marriage between these people - Archibald DOWNIE aged 30 of Tonisdale, Parish of Karadale, to Flora THOMSON aged 29 of Scotmill, Parish of Kilcalmonell. Archibald's parents were James DOWNIE & Jane MCALISTER Flora's parents were Neil THOMSON & Grace MCCALLUM If either of these names are on your tree, I would like to hear from you. Many thanks Ailsa Petrie Hamilton New Zealand

Hi All, My name is Jackie and I live in Scottsdale, Arizona. My Mother is from Paisley and my Father from Glasgow. (My Father's family was from Argyll.) They immigrated with my 2 brothers in the 1950's to Canada and then immigrated to the USA. I have done a lot of research on my family and have gathered many birth/death/marriage certificates. I have been on the list for a while, but due to an illness and death in the family, I have not been actively researching and I am just getting around to posting my surname interests now. I apologize to anyone who receives this twice. I am going to post all my surnames now (with spelling variants I have found in parenthesis) and will come back and post specifics for each name in individual emails. If anyone on the list is researching the same names as I am, let me know, and I will start "getting specific" on those names first. IN ARGYLL: In Oban, Kilmore and Kilbride: McKINNON McLEAN In Auchnabreck, Glassary: CAMPBELL McINTOSH McTAVISH IN RENFREW: IN LANARK: In Glasgow 1880-Present: STOKES McKINNON McLEAN In Greenock 1840-1900's: STOKES (STOAKES) LAIRD KILLEN McLACHLAN (McLAUCHLAN) In Paisley 1600-1800: HODGERT (HOGGART, HODGART, HOGARTH, HOGSYEARD, HODGYEART, HOGSHEART, etc) ARTHUR (ARTHURE, ARTHOUR) CLARK (CLERK) CRAIG HENRY ROBERTSON WILSON CUMMING (CUMIN, CUMINE) In Paisley 1740-1890: GEMMELL (GEMMILL, GAMEL, GIMMEL, GEMELE, etc) RUSSELL BOAG (BOOG, BOG) ORR SLOAN DOUGLAS In Paisley (from Ireland after the Potato Famine of 1845-1852) to 1900's: McGHEE (McGEE) (Pre Potato Famine from Fermanagh, Ireland) MULHOLLAND (MULHOLM, MEIKLEHOLM) KEENAN (KEENON, CAINON) RITCHIE TAYLOR MARTIN JONES (Pre Potato Famine from Fermanagh, Ireland) MURRAY McINNES (Pre Potato Famine from Fermanagh, Ireland) SUMMERS GILLAN KILLEN LAIRD In Housten and Killellan 1850-1900's: CARRUTH (also Paisley) McLATCHY IN SCOTLAND: THORP (THORPE) (Pre 1900) IN ENGLAND (Newcastle?): STOAKES (STOKES)