Thanks Heather I know Crombie place actually I have a photo of it where the famous Scottish writer Neil Munro was born, perhaps the Livingstones lived at Maltlands that is where some of my ancestors lived it was a community of estate workers houses at Inverary castle estate, the people were workers and tenants of the Duke of Argyll. "Jimmy McPherson" <templar_bb2461314@hotmail.com> > >Hi Jimmie > >The Elizabeth Livingstone is living along with good number of other >families >in an area that if my interpretation of the writing is correct is called >Ark. She is actually living in a house with an Archibald and Ann Fisher and >their family. > >Have also found 2 more Livingstone families >Dug 30 labr >Margt 25 >Colin 4 >Sally 2 >living in Crombie Place, Inveraray > >John 75 gardener >Janet 60 >Mary 35 >Dugald 25 labr >Janet 20 >living in Mul Lane (?), Inveraray > >Regards >Heather >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jimmy McPherson" <templar_bb2461314@hotmail.com> >To: <royw@flexi.net.au> >Cc: <SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 12:43 AM >Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] McNuire, Inverary > > > > Hi Heather, I don't have an Ann Livingstone but have an Elizabeth Born >or > > bap 27 May 1804 who may be the one you have in 1841(At what address?) > > > > I don't have any McNairs mine are McNuires( What I said was that at a >later > > date some McNuires changed there name to McNair)My McNuires don't match >the > > names you mentioned. > > > > Thank you for your message! Jimmy McPherson Great Gr Grandson of Hugh > > McPherson & Annabella Livingstone married 1819 Craignish, Mid Argyll > > > > > > >From: "Waites" <royw@flexi.net.au> > > [ARGYLL] McNuire, Inverary > > >Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 17:25:02 +1000 > > > > > >Hi Jim > > > > > >Saw your comment about LIVINGSTONE & McNAIR. > > >Have found a couple of them on the Inveraray 1841c. > > >Ann Livingstone was 25 and a servant to McLaurin's. > > >Elizabeth Livingstone was 40 and independant of means living with the > > >Fisher's. > > >Duncan McNair 50 wright, Catherine 15, John 20 labourer, Margaret 12. > > > > > >Don't know if any of these are of use to you. > > > > > >Regards > > >Heather. > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

Hello fellow listers, Just a quick thank you to everyone who got in touch with helpful advice. I feel I'm getting closer to solving this one. Thanks. Fiona

I don't know about anyone else but the one thing that has annoyed me for years is the English determination to pronounce Loch as Lock. Especially TV presenters, it makes me want to get into the TV and give them a good slap. (I'm not a lunatic, honest!) Katrina ----- Original Message ----- From: "J.D. McEachin" <jdm@synthcom.com> To: <SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Say it like it sounds/ Hebridean isles > On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, Lachie Macquarie wrote: > > > Softish. A bit like the German Ich. However, as the English keep > > reminding me, I sound as if I am about to expectorate. > > Thanks, Lachie. Say, while we're discussing pronunciation, can you tell > me how folks on your side of the pond pronounce McEachin? Over here, > people say everything from McKAYin to McKAN to McECKin to McEACHin. And > that's just the people named McEachin! The rest have found a seemingly > infinite number of ways to (mis)pronounce it. > > Jeffrey > > > > ==== SCT-ARGYLL Mailing List ==== > **************************************************************** > Please remember to send ALL list mail to SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com > >

On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, Lachie Macquarie wrote: > Softish. A bit like the German Ich. However, as the English keep > reminding me, I sound as if I am about to expectorate. Thanks, Lachie. Say, while we're discussing pronunciation, can you tell me how folks on your side of the pond pronounce McEachin? Over here, people say everything from McKAYin to McKAN to McECKin to McEACHin. And that's just the people named McEachin! The rest have found a seemingly infinite number of ways to (mis)pronounce it. Jeffrey

To all the kind folk who took the time to answer my questions about the Hebridies - many, many thanks for your help. I have to unsub while my computer goes to hospital for a week or so but will be back. Thank you all again for your kindness. Bev S

Capturing in this missive, the sparing prose of Rambaud, <001b01c27079$dc17dba0$6a7bf718@kzo.chartermi.net> and displaying the suave and sophisticated disposition of Archibald Leach, Donna Lou Ritter <drlulu@chartermi.net> sgrìobh, >In Gaelic is the "ch" always "soft" as in church or does it ever sound like >"k"?? So many place names seem to have a lot of "ch"es in them. >Lou Ritter Softish. A bit like the German Ich. However, as the English keep reminding me, I sound as if I am about to expectorate. So, it is produced from the back of the throat, even better if you can start from your lungs. -- Lachie Macquarie. Agricola pulchris puellis parvunm taurum dat.

Carla Salvata asked about the murder, in Campbeltown, on 2nd May 1897. . I had a quick look at the Oban Times for Sat 8th May 1897. Here's an extract of the article which appearon page 5: . WIFE MURDER AT CAMPBELTOWN . A profound sensation was created at Campbel- town on Sunday morning when it became known that during the night a shocking murder had been committed in the town. The scene of the tragedy is the Millknowe, in the west end of the town, The man supposed to have committed the murder, Wm. Galbraith, was lately employed as a distillery workman, and the murdered woman was his wife Margaret MacMillan or Galbraith. So far as can be ascertained, Galbraith came home late at night, and a quarrel arose between him and deceased. There was no one present but their three children, the youngest an infant of three months and the eldest about five years of age. Towards four and five o'cllock on Sunday morning Galbraith came to the house of a neighbour with his infant, and left it there. He said his wife was ill and he was going for a doctor. He did not come back. Suspecting something was wrong the neighbours went to the house, where they discovered Mrs Galbraith in a pool of blood quite dead. The house was upside down, the whole of the furniture was smashed, and the room bore traces of a great struggle having taken place. Galbraith and his wife were in the habit of quarrelling. Galbraith, who has since given himself up to the police, is about 25 years of age, and his wife was some 10 or 12 years his senior. . Hope this is of some use to you. I had a quick look at the following two weeks papers but could not find anything. Galbraith would appear in front of the Sheriff, in Campbeltown, and then at the High Court, possibly in Oban. I'm not sure what was the score back in the late 1800's. Today he would probably go to Glasgow. In any case he would have to be brought to court, for trial, on the murder charge within 6 months. . Good luck with your research. I'll look up the OT if you need. . Les Horn Onich Inverness-shire

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Greetings listers from Western Australia! Does anyone know where I can access information on an ancestor, Neil FLETCHER living in Macduff, Gamrie, Banffshire, who was a seaman for the early 1830s and may be late 1820s. In 1837 he was listed as being a Merchant, grocer and sp. dealer? I am wondering if there are official Mrchant and Seamen records that can be accessed? I hope someone can point me in the right direction. TIA Regards Nigel BOUNDY Western Australia --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, & more faith.yahoo.com

Capturing in this missive, the sparing prose of Rambaud, <004801c2706a$803b2800$507b8b90@default> and displaying the suave and sophisticated disposition of Archibald Leach, BJS <bstro1@bigpond.com> sgrìobh, >Hello to All, >I'm a newbie to the list and wondering if someone can help me with the >pronunciation of the names of the Islands of Uist(?) and Ulva. One of >these were the birthplace of one of my links. I would love to know how >to say them. >Bev S - Queensland, Australia The Hebridies and the shebridies from Forfar? Uist would be Youist and Ulva is Ul va. -- Lachie Macquarie. Agricola pulchris puellis parvunm taurum dat.

Hello to All, I'm a newbie to the list and wondering if someone can help me with the pronunciation of the names of the Islands of Uist(?) and Ulva. One of these were the birthplace of one of my links. I would love to know how to say them. Bev S - Queensland, Australia

In Gaelic is the "ch" always "soft" as in church or does it ever sound like "k"?? So many place names seem to have a lot of "ch"es in them. Lou Ritter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmy McPherson" <templar_bb2461314@hotmail.com> To: <SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 4:58 AM Subject: [ARGYLL] Say it like it sounds/ Hebridean isles > > Uist would sound like Yooist, my grandmother Christine McKiggan came from > North Boisdale, South Uist which in Gaelic sounds like Toyshka Oohishcha, > this island is in the outer hebrides chain also known as the long islands. > Jura in the Inner hebrides sounds like Joora, what names are you researching > in the isles? > > Jimmy McPherson > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > ==== SCT-ARGYLL Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > Need an LDS film number to order a film at your local LDS library? Try > http://geocities.com/Heartland/Garden/1311/13300-scottishreference.htm >

Hello fellow listers, Hoping someone out there can help me. I have a copy of a death certificate for 22nd September 1921 in Campbeltown on which no cause of death is given, only a vague time of death, and the informant is a Law Agent. In the margin is written something like, "See Registers of (......) entries, Vol III page 160 27 sept 1921. I am presuming there has been an inquest. How do I go about finding out the details? Who do I contact? Thank you. Fiona

have you tried writing to Inverary jail who keep court records of prisoners tried at Inverary, I don't know when this prison closed? Jimmy >To: SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [ARGYLL] Re: Campbeltown Murder >Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 22:35:43 +0100 > >Thanks to everyone who wrote with suggestions about finding out more about >a >murder in Campbeltown. I visited Campbeltown last weekend but it turns out >that older copies of the paper are kept in Oban and I didn't have time to >go >there. > >I managed to get to the Mitchell Library for a short time and found a small >piece in the Glasgow Herald which makes me think that more local papers >would have had a lot more. There was a piece in the Monday paper detailing >the murder events which took place in the early hours of Sunday 2nd May >1897 >but says that the husband who killed his wife ran off. In Tuesday's paper >it >detailed that he was still on the run from the police and there was nothing >for the remainder of that week which was all I had time to check. > >It will be very difficult for me to get to Oban and I wondered if anyone >who >lived locally would be able to do the research on my behalf either for a >fee >or I could do some research in Glasgow in return either at the Mitchell >Library or at Park Circus. > >If anyone is interested could they contact me privately at >casalveta@ntlworld.com > >Thanks again to everyone who replied to me before. > > >Carla (Scotland) _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

Uist would sound like Yooist, my grandmother Christine McKiggan came from North Boisdale, South Uist which in Gaelic sounds like Toyshka Oohishcha, this island is in the outer hebrides chain also known as the long islands. Jura in the Inner hebrides sounds like Joora, what names are you researching in the isles? Jimmy McPherson _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

Thanks to everyone who wrote with suggestions about finding out more about a murder in Campbeltown. I visited Campbeltown last weekend but it turns out that older copies of the paper are kept in Oban and I didn't have time to go there. I managed to get to the Mitchell Library for a short time and found a small piece in the Glasgow Herald which makes me think that more local papers would have had a lot more. There was a piece in the Monday paper detailing the murder events which took place in the early hours of Sunday 2nd May 1897 but says that the husband who killed his wife ran off. In Tuesday's paper it detailed that he was still on the run from the police and there was nothing for the remainder of that week which was all I had time to check. It will be very difficult for me to get to Oban and I wondered if anyone who lived locally would be able to do the research on my behalf either for a fee or I could do some research in Glasgow in return either at the Mitchell Library or at Park Circus. If anyone is interested could they contact me privately at casalveta@ntlworld.com Thanks again to everyone who replied to me before. Carla (Scotland)

Hi Heather, I don't have an Ann Livingstone but have an Elizabeth Born or bap 27 May 1804 who may be the one you have in 1841(At what address?) I don't have any McNairs mine are McNuires( What I said was that at a later date some McNuires changed there name to McNair)My McNuires don't match the names you mentioned. Thank you for your message! Jimmy McPherson Great Gr Grandson of Hugh McPherson & Annabella Livingstone married 1819 Craignish, Mid Argyll >From: "Waites" <royw@flexi.net.au> [ARGYLL] McNuire, Inverary >Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 17:25:02 +1000 > >Hi Jim > >Saw your comment about LIVINGSTONE & McNAIR. >Have found a couple of them on the Inveraray 1841c. >Ann Livingstone was 25 and a servant to McLaurin's. >Elizabeth Livingstone was 40 and independant of means living with the >Fisher's. >Duncan McNair 50 wright, Catherine 15, John 20 labourer, Margaret 12. > >Don't know if any of these are of use to you. > >Regards >Heather. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

Greetings: I'm quite new to the list, so please forgive any errors in protocol. I wonder if anyone has information on James Silvia (I believe that was his middle name) MILLOY, who died in Toronto, York Co (he was from Erin, Ontario) on June 27, 1916. I believe he emigrated from Scotland (Killean and Kilchenzie, Argyllshire) to Canada, but have no information on dates. He was married twice -- the first to Julia BROWN (not entirely sure of this name), and second to Maud Amelia MCALISTER. Siblings of James Milloy include: Hugh Milloy, Archibald Milloy, and a sister (Julia?)... possibly more that I am unaware of. Family rumour says that a brother died while on the trip from Scotland to Canada. To complicate matters (or possibly make them easier), I have been told, by a veritable angel, that James MILLOY may be linked back to: Hugh Milloy and Margaret Beaton (Beton?), m. 17 April 1787 in Killean and Kilchenzie, children: Florence (b. 1787), Catherine (b. 1790), Archibald (b. 1792), John (b. 1794), Margaret (b.1796) Hugh (b. 1798), Mary (b. 1800), Barbara (b.1802), Janet (b. 1804) Sarah (Marion) (b. 1806) I'm not sure if all this information is helpful. I would assume that I'm missing two generations between Archibald/John/Hugh and the James Silvia Milloy who was my great grandfather. Any tips, suggestions? Cheers, Mike

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Hello I am trying to find ancestors who lived and died on Easdale. Their names were Duncan McCowan & Peggy Campbell. They were born abt. 1805. I've already looked on familysearch.com and the scotlandspeople gov.uk site. Both these sites list these individuals but their are no clues as to their parents. Suggestions? Thanks. Judy