I know that there is a King's House on Rannoch Moor- and I have enjoyed the odd drink in it- but has anybody heard of the Kingshouse, Glenorchy? Mary McDiarmid, the daughter of my ancestor Henry Tyson, died there in 1872. She had been living wih her son -who was a schoolmaster in Glenorchy -at the time of the 1871 census. I was also wondering if she was buried in the churchyard in Dalmally. Does anybody know is there is a list of monumental inscriptions for this graveyard? Rosemary ===== In the heart of lovely Kinross-shire __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

Dear all Please note that I've change my ISP and may now be contacted at : leshorn@ythanonich.freeserve.co.uk My old Bushinternet address will be left open for a while. Best wishes Les Onich inverness-shire

looking for date of death and location of David Douglas born in Scotland (Yetholm Roxburgh I think but not sure) in the year 1770. Spouse,Aimey Turner <married 1795 >Also,how would I find David`s parents? thanks in advance,Nancy Nan@webtv.net

Forwarded by List Admin, please respond to <jecroft@att.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: <jecroft@att.net> To: <SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 9:16 PM Subject: {not a subscriber} COLQUHOUN - Duror area > Looking for information on the parents of > Hugh COLQUHOUN, born abt 1843, Duror, Argyll, Scotland > At the time of the 1881 census, Hugh was a Police Lieutenant in Govan. > > married 23 Nov 1866, Milton, Glasgow > Jeannie (Jane) Blane Brownlee, born abt 1847, Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland > > Children: > Robert Morris Brownlee COLQUHOUN, born 7 Sep 1867, Anderston, Glasgow > Margaret McColl COLQUHOUN, born 28 Dec 1868, Anderston, Glasgow > Mary Wallace Cunningham COLQUHOUN, born 24 May 1870, Milton, Glasgow > Cuthbert Ewing Duncan COLQUHOUN, born 7 Aug 1872, High Church, Glasgow > Jeannie (Jane) Blane Lamont COLQUHOUN, born 17 Sep 1874, High Church, Glasgow > George B. COLQUHOUN, born abt 1877, Glasgow > Hew Alexander COLQUHOUN, born Jun 1880, Glasgow > > NOTE: The name "Hew" spelled in that manner seems to have some significance, > as the oldest son, Robert, named his eldest son, Hew Black. > > -- > Jo-Ann >

Hi All Im looking for Alexander Blair (Farmer) married Jane Breckenridge in 1700s don't know the year they had a son George born around 1796 died 6th may 1871 age 75 McDonald's Land Inverary (both deceased when George died) So any information on Alexander or Jane would be great I think its around the Inveraray area ????( Blair could have been spelt different then one of the ones iv got is balir) and can you tell me were McDonald's Land is I know it must be in inverary but were

forwarded by list admin - please respond directly to "jeanc" <jeanc@onetel.net.uk> ----- Original Message ----- From: "jeanc" <jeanc@onetel.net.uk> To: <SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 3:54 PM Subject: McIlriach > "My" McIlriachs, from Taynuilt area, changed their name to MacDonald around 1850. Why they did so at that time is a puzzle.Sìne >

forwarded by list admin - please respond directly to "Les Hewett" <ljhewett@ihug.co.nz> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Les Hewett" <ljhewett@ihug.co.nz> To: <SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 7:49 PM Subject: {not a subscriber} CRACKNELL AT DUROR > > Any lister aware of descendants of Donald and Frances Cracknell, buried > in Duror cemetery. Donald d. 1995; Frances 2002. Les and Gloria Hewett, > Napier, New Zealand. >

Hi: I have encountered McIlraith in Canada, I think in Nova Scotia. By the way, my source insists that McVurrich is the Gaelic version of McPherson!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Sinclair" <neil.sinclair2@virgin.net> To: <SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 10:40 AM Subject: [ARGYLL] McIlreach > Re the subject of Gaelic names changing, can anyone help with the name McIlreach,MacIllreach,McIlriach or other spellings? This name seems to have died out in the Lorn area of Argyll. Does anyone know if it could have been changed to something else? > > Regards, > > Sheila. > > ______________________________

Eileen, This makes sense of things. I have a Peggy(Margaret) McDonald married to Peter Sinclair, living in Ardchattan. It is McDonald on her children's marriage certificates, but on her death certificate in 1864,(I'm now pretty sure this is the same person as everything ties in) her name is Margaret McIlriach. Interesting! Thanks for your info. Sheila. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eileen" <eileen@j51.com> To: <SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 07 November 2002 19:03 Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] McIlreach > Sheila: > > I have an Archibald McIlleriaich who used Archibald McDonald after Culloden. > Gaelic was forbidden, so those keeping records often entered both names. > > Eileen > > > Re the subject of Gaelic names changing, can anyone help with the name > McIlreach,MacIllreach,McIlriach or other spellings? This name seems to have > died out in the Lorn area of Argyll. Does anyone know if it could have been > changed to something else? > > > > Regards, > > > > Sheila. > > > > > > ==== SCT-ARGYLL Mailing List ==== > > ***************************************************************** > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Argyll is the > > GenConnect board for Argyll > > > > > > ______________________________

I repled to your mail address Glynis, but it bounced, my reply was to the effect that Appin is in the county of Argyllshire but not in the county of Ayrshire. Jimmy McPherson _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Re the subject of Gaelic names changing, can anyone help with the name McIlreach,MacIllreach,McIlriach or other spellings? This name seems to have died out in the Lorn area of Argyll. Does anyone know if it could have been changed to something else? Regards, Sheila.

Does anybody have the Ancestors list for DONALD MACDERMID dod c 1992. He was married to Grace McLean from the Isle of Tiree, they lived in a house called " Burbank" at either Kilchoan or Glenmore and both Donald and Grace died as the result of this house catching fire some 8--10 years ago. My reasoning for this request is that my wifes mother was Beatrice Annie Macdermid dob 1891 who was a direct decendant of Donald Macdermid & Mary Stewart both c 1793.who came to Australia with their family in 1839 from Tobermory in the ship "George Fife" I am endeavouring to ascertain if Donald who died c 1992 is related and if so how. I do have very good Australian records of the Macdermid family who came out on the "George Fife" which I am prepared to exchange. Rregards Bob Davis. Brisbane Australia

Hi Frank & Fellow listers I have not been active on the Argyll track for a while as I have been searching other areas. I was very interested in your explanation regarding the CURRIES, as I have some documents, which were sent to my Aunt (not sure who by) of which I have copies. My Maiden name is McMurrich, which I understand at some time were a Clan in their own right. I also believe that the origin of the name may have come from the Mhuirichs, the former may also have prior connections with the MacPhersons and had broken away after offending their chief. The names also appear as MacMureach and McVurich. The Curries as you say dropped the Mac and took on the anglicised verson, I also understand that the The Clan Currie were anciently, the Clan Mac Mhuirich. What you say does support a great deal of the information which makes it all the more interesting. I have spent a good deal of time finding ancestors of the McMurrich family, without really concentrating on the origin of the name itself. Regards Lynda ----- Original Message ----- From: <Wflbigwood@aol.com> To: <SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 8:37 PM Subject: [ARGYLL] Re: SCT-ARGYLL-D Digest V02 #179 Margaret in Toronto "Martyn" is correct up to a point. In the 18th century and early 19th century the name is quite often found as McCurry which was then reduced to Curry. (The loss of Mac is very common in names in Argyll). You should also know that the name is also became McMurchy or McMurchie in Kintyre, although that name elsewhere derives from MacMhurchaidh and not MacMhuirich. (mh represents the sound v in Gaelic). However, you are also correct in that the MacPhersons of Badenoch were known as Clann Mhuirich. Be warned that one must be very careful when dealing with Gaelic names a) because a common clan name may hide a variety of names which were used for particular parts of the clan or for different individuals in it - for example the many different names which are used for the various branches of the Campbells (Mac Cailein Mór - the Duke of Argyll, Mac Dhonnchaidh - Campbell of Inverawe, Mac Iomhair - Campbell of Asknish etc.) ; and b) because the same name in Gaelic could have several different equivalents when used in English and the same form used in English could represent several quite different Gaelic names. Frank Bigwood ==== SCT-ARGYLL Mailing List ==== ***************************************************************** http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Argyll is the GenConnect board for Argyll

Sheila: I have an Archibald McIlleriaich who used Archibald McDonald after Culloden. Gaelic was forbidden, so those keeping records often entered both names. Eileen > Re the subject of Gaelic names changing, can anyone help with the name McIlreach,MacIllreach,McIlriach or other spellings? This name seems to have died out in the Lorn area of Argyll. Does anyone know if it could have been changed to something else? > > Regards, > > Sheila. > > > ==== SCT-ARGYLL Mailing List ==== > ***************************************************************** > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Argyll is the > GenConnect board for Argyll > >

Judith, Claggan certainly exists on modern maps and is in Morvern. The Skye version would not be in Morvern even in 1841, but probably would have been in Inverness I have Agnes McIntyre born in Morvern married Robert Finlay in Eastwood Parish on 29 May 1832. Have not been able to trace Agnes' birth. Any connection? Mary Hamilton.

Lou Claonaig (the spelling I most often see) is a small group of houses a mile or two down the road (south) from Skipness village. I don't think it was ever a parish in its own right. The position as I understand it is that in 1753 a new parish, Saddell and Skipness was formed on the east coast of Kintyre by separating Skipness from Kilcalmonell and Kilberry, and Saddell from Killean. Before then the parish church serving Skipness had been at Clachan to the west. To serve the new parish (very long and narrow, with poor road communications) a new church was built at Claonaig in 1756. My g.g. grandfather, Peter TAYLOR, was born at Creggan, a farm very close to Claonaig church, in about 1789. Martyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Lou Ritter" <drlulu@chartermi.net> To: <SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 11:39 PM Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] McIntyre in Claigin, Claigan or Claggan > Does anyone know if the parish of Skipness might have been known as the > parish of Clonaig in 1796? I have a marriage of Niell McNish of > Kilcalmonell & Kilberry parish to Christine McQuilkan of Clonaig Parish. > Lou Ritter >

Hi List! I have finally broken through a "brick wall" here in Aus and have now proven my link back to Scotland! Alas, for an Aussie, I am a clean skin, as this link now extinguishes any hope of a convict background to call my own!! It appears, that my gggggf, John Douglas, was a single man - a Cabinet Maker, a member of the Church of Scotland and aged 28 yrs in 1838. His native place on the Shipping records indicate that Elgin was his native place and that his mother, was shown as Jane Leslie (h'keeper same place). His father's name isnt indicated.. However he sailed on the Lady Kennaway and arrived "down under" of his own free will on 12 August, 1838. I have absolutely NO clue where to start looking in Elgin for any records - and I would be appreciative of any tips that people can give me eg websites etc. A nice part of the story was that he met a 21yo lady called Hellen Forsythe on board, and married when they arrived in Sydney in Dec 1838 and had quite a few children! She was from Minerd, Argyle and was a Dressmaker and house servant, in the care of William and Christian Brice. Her parents names are Synclair Forsyth and Catherine ? Again - very little clue where to start! Anyway, it is nice to be able to look at a map of Scotland and know where your ancestors walked before you... Thanking everyone for their assistance! Really is appreciated! Thanks Liz Toowoomba, Queensland, Aus.

Does anyone know if the parish of Skipness might have been known as the parish of Clonaig in 1796? I have a marriage of Niell McNish of Kilcalmonell & Kilberry parish to Christine McQuilkan of Clonaig Parish. Lou Ritter ----- Original Message ----- From: "david watson" <bbqman@alphalink.com.au> To: <SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 5:19 AM Subject: [ARGYLL] McIntyre in Claigin, Claigan or Claggan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: david watson <bbqman@alphalink.com.au> > To: judith <judith@chidlow.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 9:17 PM > Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] McIntyre in Claigin, Claigan or Claggan > > > > Hi Judith, > > probably just a coincidence, but I have an Archibald McIntyre, > > schoolmaster in the 1841 census at Clonaig, in the parish of Skipness (the > > north east coast of Kintyre) Argyll. Do you have any further info on > > Donald?? Any connections to Kilmichael Glassary or South Knapedale?? > > > > Lesley > > Melbourne, Australia > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: judith <judith@chidlow.com> > > To: <SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 3:11 PM > > Subject: [ARGYLL] McIntyre in Claigin, Claigan or Claggan > > > > > > > On the 1841 census (Morvern, section 4) I find Donald > > > McIntyre, schoolmaster, living at Claigin, which had > > > 2 households at the time. Two years earlier, his > > > location had been given as Claigan. Those must be the > > > same with allowance for spelling variation. Now all I > > > can find on maps is a place called Claggan, near > > > Lochaline. Would this be the same place? Was there a > > > school there or nearby? Can anyone fill me in on the > > > place? > > > > > > Judith > > > Port Moody, BC, Canada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-ARGYLL Mailing List ==== > > > ******************************************************************* > > > http://members.aol.com/theweeharp/argyll.htm is the Argyll GenWeb site > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-ARGYLL Mailing List ==== > **************************************************************** > Please remember to send ALL list mail to SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com >

Judith I recommend that you try to get hold of Philip Gaskell's Morvern Transformed (which has been recently re-issued) which will help you to understand something of the life of the area in the 19th century and will also answer your question (p.91) about a school at Claggan. Frank Bigwood

Margaret in Toronto "Martyn" is correct up to a point. In the 18th century and early 19th century the name is quite often found as McCurry which was then reduced to Curry. (The loss of Mac is very common in names in Argyll). You should also know that the name is also became McMurchy or McMurchie in Kintyre, although that name elsewhere derives from MacMhurchaidh and not MacMhuirich. (mh represents the sound v in Gaelic). However, you are also correct in that the MacPhersons of Badenoch were known as Clann Mhuirich. Be warned that one must be very careful when dealing with Gaelic names a) because a common clan name may hide a variety of names which were used for particular parts of the clan or for different individuals in it - for example the many different names which are used for the various branches of the Campbells (Mac Cailein Mór - the Duke of Argyll, Mac Dhonnchaidh - Campbell of Inverawe, Mac Iomhair - Campbell of Asknish etc.) ; and b) because the same name in Gaelic could have several different equivalents when used in English and the same form used in English could represent several quite different Gaelic names. Frank Bigwood