Joy, There is a farm called Killipoll on an early 1800s map of Kintyre, but I see that there has been a lot of forestry work and dam-building done in that area on a modern map. To point out where it was: if you draw a line straight southwest from Ardnacross (on the east coast of Kintyre) and another straight northwest from Campbelltown, they will intersect about where Killipoll was. It was also straight east from Tangy farm. I hope that helps - Marcia Joy wrote: > > I have been browsing a CD I ordered - Argyll Courts by WFL Bigwood > (available on Amazon.com UK) It's been fascinating reading, even if I > never acquire any of my specific family information. > > My question is in reference to a place spelled Kelipole in these old > court records. Although the particular record is recent (about 1819) > compared to most of what is contained on the CD (1700's) it makes > reference to a place spelled Kelipole. I want to say this is likely the > same as Colipole (on Luing) but am not sure. Can anyone advise? > All help is appreciated. > Joy, USA > > ==== SCT-ARGYLL Mailing List ==== > ******************************************************************* > http://members.aol.com/theweeharp/argyll.htm is the Argyll GenWeb site > > _____________________________________________________ > This message scanned for viruses by CoreComm

I have been browsing a CD I ordered - Argyll Courts by WFL Bigwood (available on Amazon.com UK) It's been fascinating reading, even if I never acquire any of my specific family information. My question is in reference to a place spelled Kelipole in these old court records. Although the particular record is recent (about 1819) compared to most of what is contained on the CD (1700's) it makes reference to a place spelled Kelipole. I want to say this is likely the same as Colipole (on Luing) but am not sure. Can anyone advise? All help is appreciated. Joy, USA

Jo-Ann Croft, bless you heart. I don't know what induced you to post something about Dumfries on the Sct-Argyll list, but I, for one, are most grateful that you did. I belong to Argyll list because of my Campbells but right now I am researching the Little side of my family and they came from Dumfriesshire and I was at an insurmountable brick wall and could not get past but now because of your generosity I am no longer lost. Thanks from the bottom of my heart. Judi from Tacoma, WA, USA In a message dated 4/13/03 Jo-Ann Croft writes: > List, > > The D&G Council Information Services has put the 1851 census for Dumfries, > Kirkcudbright and Wigtownshire on-line at the following url. > http://www.dumgal.gov.uk/services/depts/comres/library/census_search.asp (snipped) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Judi ~~ a Proud Canadian living in Lakewood/Tacoma, WA, USA Researching LITTLE in: Langholm,Dumfries,Scotland;...Longtown,Cumberland,England;... Brighton, Sussex, England;...Nottinghill, Middlesex, England;...South and North Stockton, Yorkshire, England;...Middlesbrough, Yorkshire England;...and Tomahawk and Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Researching STIMSON in Buckinghamshire, England Researching OLIVER & HOGG in Dumfries, Scotland Researching FOWLER in Buckinghamshire Researching WILSON in Northumberland, England Researching CORRIE in Cumberland, England Researching CAMPBELL & WALLBRIDGE in Ontario, Alberta and Scotland *Cha dhuine duine na h'onar (Gaelic for Man on his own is no man)*

Hi List, Below is a list of immigrants from Argyleshire to New South Wales as transcribed by Jenny Myers. Bounty Immigration. NSW 1828 to 1842 Surname: Patten Given name: Ruth Age: 30 Year: 1838 Ship: Brilliant Native place: Dunoon Argyllshire Scotland Occupation: Laundress and House Servant Religion: Church of Scotland Notes: Dau of Jas McLaren on same ship. Wife of Andrew Reel: 1288 Surname: Patten Given name: James Age: 3 Year: 1838 Ship: Brilliant Native place: Dunoon Argyllshire Scotland Occupation: Religion: Church of Scotland Notes: Son of Andrew and Ruth Patten. Reel: 1288 Surname: Patten Given name: Andrew Age: 1 Year: 1838 Ship: Brilliant Native place: Dunoon Argyllshire Scotland Occupation: Religion: Church of Scotland Notes: Son of Andrew and Ruth Patten. Reel: 1288 Digger - Bounty Immigration. NSW 1828 to 1842 The following do not have specified place of birth........ Surname: Wallace Given name: Frances Age: Year: 1832 Ship: Arundel Native place: Scotland Occupation: Surgeon Religion: Notes: Vol 1A -No 4/4823-From London Reel: 1286 Surname: Weir Given name: Eliza Age: 25 Year: 1839 Ship: Royal Admiral Native place: West Scotland Occupation: House Servant Religion: Presbyterian Notes: Dau of Fergusson and Jane Niven his wife. Wife of George Reel: 1306 Good Luck, Linda.

List, The D&G Council Information Services has put the 1851 census for Dumfries, Kirkcudbright and Wigtownshire on-line at the following url. http://www.dumgal.gov.uk/services/depts/comres/library/census_search.asp As the notes explain, they are still missing some Wigtownshire parishes. To the left on the page is a list of other Historical research pages. Search Chamberlain's Accounts Search Shipping Registers Search Dumfries Kirk Session Search Mouswald Kirk Session Search Jail Index Search Dean of Guild Plans -- Jo-Ann Croft

Hi Craig, 1841 Census http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~relys4u/ 1881 Census for Ships and Crews in British Ports http://www.angelfire.com/de/BobSanders/81Intro.html Good Luck, Linda. ----- Original Message ----- From: "cvcporter" <cvcporter@btopenworld.com> To: <SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 2:47 AM Subject: [ARGYLL] Fw: Unidentified subject! > I know that I can get 1881, 1891 and 1901 on Scotland's People. Anyone know > if any (parts of) previous censuses/cense are on-line anywhere - for > Scotland and er, England > > Craig >

Looking for descendents of John McAlester. Born 28 May, 1821 at Campbeltown. Parents were Angus McAlester and Mary McCallum, married 24 Aug. 1820 at Campbeltown. 4 of John's younger brothers(James, Angus, Duncan & Neil) emmigrated to Alabama, but as far as I know, John did not. There was one other brother, Alexander born 12 June 1828 as well as two sisters: Elizabeth, 19 Nov 1825, and Isabella, 8 Apr 1835 who apparently all stayed in Campbeltown? Brian email: brimartin10@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com

Hi Joy, The 1881 Scottish census is not online at LDS, however, I have it on CD if you would like a look-up. Kate The Netherlands _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Thanks to everyone who answered my question regarding the 1881 census. I think I just forgot Scotland was absent from that series of records. For those of you who may have the set & will do lookups you might contact Random Acts of Genealogy Kindness www.raogk.com and volunteer. A cousin hosts the site & the volunteers you encounter are wonderful. Also, other records - I know I have a 1861 census on line at rootsweb for Kilbrandon & Kilchattan Parish, Argyll. Such a tiny parish, few are searching there! But I have also transcribed 1841 & 1871 for the same parish. I hope to have all three data bases on line before too long. Will let you know when they are available to search. Joy USA

I know that I can get 1881, 1891 and 1901 on Scotland's People. Anyone know if any (parts of) previous censuses/cense are on-line anywhere - for Scotland and er, England Craig Craig Porter Cirencester, UK

Joy, The General Registrar for Scotland has refused to allow the 1881 Scottish census to be available on the LDS website. Presumably this is because GROS is already charging to see it on their website! Alison Scotland _________________________________________________________________ Overloaded with spam? With MSN 8, you can filter it out http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=32&DI=1059

Hi Can anybody tell me were I can find out more information on Kilmalieu Cemetery Inveraray as my great great grandfather buried there Thank Jim

The LDS did not receive permission to put the 1881 census of Scotland online. You can access it on the government's pay-to-view site. http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk The LDS can still sell the census on CD, but I believe you have to buy the whole UK. I can do lookups for you, as I have that CD set. -- Jo-Ann Croft

Craig, I have found this site very useful: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~relys4u/ Shane Preedy Rossland, BC shane&deb@telus.net

I'm afraid Scottish returns for the 1881 census aren't included in the LDS data. When they first announced that the 1881 census for the UK was available, I tried it, then emailed them to ask about this. They replied that the 1881 census for Scotland is available on the ScotlandsPeople website, so not included in the data LDS have made available. I pointed out that it was therefore misleading to say that they provide access to data for the UK since their data totally excludes one of the countries that make up the UK, and that it would be more accurate to say they've got census data for England, NI and Wales, but I never got a reply to that email. Sigh. Regards, Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy" <beatsme@netins.net> To: <SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 1:41 AM Subject: [ARGYLL] Census Question - LDS on line > Does anyone know why I can't find Scotland in the Census data base for > 1881 at the LDS website? > I thought they had previously been there, but certainly are missing now, > tho the counties, etc. are listed. > > Thanks, > Joy > > > ==== SCT-ARGYLL Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > Need an LDS film number to order a film at your local LDS library? Try > http://geocities.com/Heartland/Garden/1311/13300-scottishreference.htm > >

GROS will not allow the LDS to use it on their website as GROS have it on theirs, or to put it another way GROS want to charge us for it - the LDS is of course free! edward Limpsfield, Surrey

Hi list I recommend Angus Stewart's web-site for its excellent paintings of various views of Mull. Even if you don't buy any of them it's worth making a favourite so that you can browse the views occasionally. http://www.mullart.com/ Best wishes Les --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Does anyone know why I can't find Scotland in the Census data base for 1881 at the LDS website? I thought they had previously been there, but certainly are missing now, tho the counties, etc. are listed. Thanks, Joy

Hi Lists Sorry to spoil the party and stop this supposition by all of you. I've just checked the actual 1841 Census for Kilfinichen & Kilvickeon on Mull. In ED 8 pg 2 is the entry for Hugh & Mary McPHAIL and family, including Flory, at what appears to be "Allrat." I'm afraid that the Enumerators 'U' looks like 'Al' in a number of entries and his 'r' is probably a closed up 'v.' However the convincing thing is the fact that it appears between the entries for Torbeck and Ardvergnish; which is just where "Ulvalt" is at the head of Loch Scridian. Best Wishes Les ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cathy & Vin Di Pietro" <vdpcom@warwick.net> To: <SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 7:57 PM Subject: Fw: {not a subscriber} Re: [ARGYLL] Spelling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lachie Macquarie" <boorach@mail.rootsweb.com> To: <SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 2:07 PM Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: [ARGYLL] Spelling > Jean Reynolds <Jean.Reynolds1@Btinternet.com> sgrìobh, > >The name is Ulva and it is a small island to the west side of the Isle of > >Mull > > > >Jean > > > Uluvalt is also a township at the top of Loch Scridain, God only knows > if Allratt could be transmogrified into Uluvalt, as Bjork says, > "possibly maybe". > > >> Hi Jim > >> > >> ' .. a Flora McPhail born at Uluvalt, sometimes Ulvalt, on > >> Mull. Is it possible that Allratt could be Ulvalt?' > >> > >> Anything is possible in interpreting hanbdwriting. Also, some of > >> these records were dodgily recorded in the first place with someone > >> unfamiliar interpreting oral information. > >> > >> You can also have someone 'official' translating gaelic into english > >> .. or somewhere in between. > >> > >> Anne Maye > > -- > Lachie Macquarie > Nauta agricolae malam puellam dat? > ______________________________

The name is Ulva and it is a small island to the west side of the Isle of Mull Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Maye" <bmaye@ozemail.com.au> To: <SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 5:30 AM Subject: [ARGYLL] Spelling > Hi Jim > > ' .. a Flora McPhail born at Uluvalt, sometimes Ulvalt, on > Mull. Is it possible that Allratt could be Ulvalt?' > > Anything is possible in interpreting hanbdwriting. Also, some of > these records were dodgily recorded in the first place with someone > unfamiliar interpreting oral information. > > You can also have someone 'official' translating gaelic into english > .. or somewhere in between. > > Anne Maye >