Sandy I have only just picked this message up, as I have been away from home. I don't *know* the answer to your question, but I strongly suspect that these are all the same place - and the same too as "Port na Chro", a pair of semi detached cottages that are now let out as holiday cottages by the Skipness estate, located on a beach at a tiny one-time harbour north of Skipness Point. I also believe them to be the same as "Port Chro" where an Elizabeth (and several variants of that Christian name) TAYLOR was living until 1817, having until then been a regular recipient of parish charity, as evidenced by the Kirk Sessions minutes - this Elizabeth TAYLOR *may* have been the same as my great great great grandmother of that name (maiden surname THOMSON). I would be interested if you could let me have, on or off the list, a note of the OPR entries where you have found this place referred to, under all its spelling variants, in case it helps me better to pin down Elizabeth's identity. Martyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra McLellan" <priestner@attbi.com> To: <SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 1:54 AM Subject: [ARGYLL] Port Na Gro, Skipness Parish > Does anyone know if Port Na Gro near Skipness is the same place as > Portaero/Protero/Portachro/Portachrow found in the OPR records in > Skipness Parish? > > Sandy McLellan > Priestner@attbi.com

Peter MacAuslan

Hi, I am looking for any info on the family of James Campbell who left Scotland in 1720 via England to Va. He was a Minister. it took him two yrs to arrive at Va.(1722) I believe that other family members or descendants could be Archibald, Hugh, Colin,John and Mary Campbell. They were all in the early migration to America. Thanks, Karen

Does anyone know if Port Na Gro near Skipness is the same place as Portaero/Protero/Portachro/Portachrow found in the OPR records in Skipness Parish? Sandy McLellan Priestner@attbi.com

Gabrielle, Forgive me - I've deleted the original message so am responding to the list. If you have not found suitable maps yet, I have some that I purchased a few years past. If I'm thinking properly, they were from the Institute of Heraldic and Genealogical Studies. Set of two, quite large - A. S. Argyll & Adjoining Counties (Greater Part of Argyll with Stirling, Dumbarton and Renfrew B. W. Inverness & N. Argyll They are pretty neat in the aspect that they outline the Parishes and give dates of the inception of OPR records which is quite handy. If I'm thinking correctly today, you probably desire to have these for the Free Census site? If so, I can scan them & send them over to you - but they will be in four parts. Otherwise, I hope to have them on my little web site in a few days. Best regards, Joy USA http://www.genealogy4you.com/hobbyco/

Could SKP please do a look up in 1841/ 51 or 61 census I am looking for Neil and Flora McCallum living in Campbeltown Kintyre.Neils dob 1797.1st child Frances born 1830. Thanks Gordon

Aberdeen & north east Scotland Family history society sell county maps showing all the established church or Church of scotland parishes look for there website on www.google.com they have a shop visitor centre in Aberdeen city. Jimmy McPherson >From: Gabrielle Baker <gbake@unimelb.edu.au> >To: SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [ARGYLL] Maps >Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 11:08:30 +1000 > >HI, >Does anyone know where I can find an online map of Argyll showing the >parishes locations. The ordinance survey is a bit too detailed for my >needs. > >regards > > >gabrielle > > >==== SCT-ARGYLL Mailing List ==== >******************************************************************* >http://members.aol.com/theweeharp/argyll.htm is the Argyll GenWeb site > _________________________________________________________________ Tired of 56k? Get a FREE BT Broadband connection http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband

HI, Does anyone know where I can find an online map of Argyll showing the parishes locations. The ordinance survey is a bit too detailed for my needs. regards gabrielle

Check out: http://www.nls.uk/digitallibrary/map/early/index.html I found the 1832 maps by John Thompson quite helpful. Shane Preedy Rossland, BC shane&deb@telus.net

Diarmid This may be of no use to you at all because I am not at all sure of the geography of Scotland and there fore I do not know how close Knapdale and Auchindrain are, but my family's history is documented in the 40+ page manuscript entitled "The Campbells from Auchindrain" by Emily Campbell Price. Auchindrain, Argyllshire is now a open-air museum of farming life. In that manuscript several of my ancestors are said to have lived in Knapsdale and South Knapsdale. This manuscript is available thru your FHC and further information can be reviewed at the following website. <A HREF="http://geovisualbusinessmaps.com/f_auchin.htm"> http://geovisualbusinessmaps.com/f_auchin.htm</A> or can be obtained from Ted Lollis, my cousin who is the owner of the website. His email address is <A HREF="mailto:GeoVis@erols.com">GeoVis@erols.com</A> Hope this is of some help to you. Judi McRae Tacoma WA ~~~~~~~~~~~~ In a message to Sct-Argyll mailing list Diamid Campbell writes: > From: "Diarmid Campbell" <diarmid@diarmid.fsnet.co.uk> > To: SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <001701c31588$8854cbe0$504b883e@l8n9s3> > Subject: [ARGYLL] Knapdale Families > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Dear Argyll List > > I am new to the List but live in Argyll. > > I am writing an up-dated (sponsored) history on South Knapdale with emphasis > on Loch Caolisport - and the Castle Sween to Kilberry coastal communities. > > I am most interested to know of any research people would be willing to > share on families there, particularly those who emigrated to Australia, > North America or New Zealand, Rhodesia/Zimbabwe etc. But I am also > interested to include any local families here in Argyll or Glasgow etc. > whose families had connections with Loch Caolisport or lower Loch Sween and > down to Kilberry or either of the Leargnahensions. > > I have used Somerled MacMillan's 'Families of Knapdale' and 'The MacMillans > and Their Septs' and also 'North Knapdale in the 17th and 18th Centuries' by > (Rev) Alexander Fraser BD. I also have the fundamental paper by David > Sellar of Edinburgh University on the Families of Knapdale descended from > the Irish prince Anrothan who came over to Argyll in about 1050 and was > ancestor of the MacSweens, MacGilchrists, MacSorleys, MacLachlans and > Lamonts. > > I have also been provided with the research of Heather McFarlane in the > Yukon about Loch Caolisport families. > > Looking at the leading families - Anrothan kindred c. 1050-1262 > Menteiths of > Knapdale1262-1360 (died out reverted to crown) > Crown overlordship > 1360-1376 > Lords of the Isles > 1376-1475 (Earldom of Ross taken away) > Crown overlordship > 1475-1481 > Lords of the Isles > 1481-1493 (part of Knapdale re-granted, then forfeit) > Crown overlordship > 1493-1499 (Argyll made Bailie of royal lands) > Earl of Argyll > overlord 1502-etc. > > These have fair outlines researched and written about them. What is less > easy to document is the life of the people they were responsible for and > their descendants who made their own choices in life. > > Any thoughts, suggestions, advice or material would be appreciated. > > Diarmid Campbell, Tullich Cottage, Kilmelford, Argyll PA34 4XA SCOTLAND - > diarmid@cruachan.net > >

Hi - If anyone has get either 1841-51-61 census for the Kilmore Kilbride area would they be happy to do some lookup's for me?. The family I am interested in (more than) is : John Campbell ..Of Craigingtaggart, - Kilbride Farm ?? family : Duncan C. born 1829 Ann C. born 1831 John C. born 1833 Archibald C born 1835 Dugald C born 1838 The above Dugald, I have made some progress on, but the others I have not traced to date - the mother to these children was a Catherine McLachlan, and if my hunch is correct, she died at Kilmore Nr Oban, on the 18 Jun 1841. Any help in following this family, will be much appreciated. Regards Stewart Campbell

Joy, that is REALLY impressive.I have been looking for McCalmans in this area, but now wonder if MCHELMAN or MCCOLEMAN could be alternative versions of that name. Does anybody have any opinions? Also, Cottlellocon as a name(hamlet or farm?) doesn't ring any bellls. Can anybody help with this? Transcribing all those names must have been a nightmare. Well done! Rosemary ===== You don't get to choose how you're going to die. Or when. You can only decide how you're going to live. Now. Joan Baez __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Plus For a better Internet experience http://www.yahoo.co.uk/btoffer

Hi Joy Many thanks for your work on the Kilbrandon & Kilchattan Census'. It'll make having to trawl through the Microfilm much easier. I note your comment about making a plain text file if one does not have MSExcel. For your information it is possible to download an official MS Excel viewer from their Download Center. http://office.microsoft.com/downloads/2000/xlviewer.aspx Best Wishes Les

----- Original Message ----- From: Linda Hepburn To: SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2003 9:15 AM Subject: Letter from the Brethren of Campbeltown Hi List, Just found amongst my scottish ggrandfathers belongings, an intriguing letter from the Brethren of Bolgam Street, Campbeltown dated 1885; a letter wishing him a safe and prosperous future in Australia. He was James StClair Matheson, born 1860. Linda Hepburn, Rosewood, Queensland, Australia

Hi List, Just found amongst my scottish ggrandfathers belongings, an intriguing letter from the Brethren of Bolgam Street, Campbeltown dated 1885; a letter wishing him a safe and prosperous future in Australia. He was James StClair Matheson, born 1860.

Hi All ~ I’m just dropping in to say “Hello” to friends and possible relatives. I promised that I would let you folks know when I had my little census data bases up and running for Kilbrandon and Kilchattan Parish, years are 1841, 1861 and 1871. I am hosting an Open House for any of you that want to browse on over. It has taken me a bit, but I hope that each of you who view the pages will find them functional and useful. If you encounter any difficulties, please advise. ‘Nuff said ~ give it a go: http://www.genealogyforyou.com/hobbyco/ Best regards, Joy, USA

Hello readers is anyone researching this line of Campbell's? Duncan Campbell b 1838, Dallaveck Argyll, died 1888 in Port of Menteith, married 1857 in Kirkmichael, Glassery Argyll, Maqry Stewart born 1830 Callander Per. died after 11 Jul 1893. Children:- [1] John b 1858 in Kilninver marr aft 1881 Polly Mary Ann Cater; [2] unknown Campbell b 20 may 1860 in Kilninver; [3] Robert b 1862 Kilninver M date unknown Kate Stewart; [4] James b 1863 Kilninver; [5] Hugh b 1865 Ardchattan m 1897 Ann McNaughton; [6] Duncan b 1867 Ardchattan; [7] Margaret Jane Drummond b 1868 & d 1868; [8] Elizabeth Stewart b 1871 m 1893 in Glasgow Lks. James William Dunlop, I would like to hear from anyone researching this line Malcolm

Dear Argyll List I am new to the List but live in Argyll. I am writing an up-dated (sponsored) history on South Knapdale with emphasis on Loch Caolisport - and the Castle Sween to Kilberry coastal communities. I am most interested to know of any research people would be willing to share on families there, particularly those who emigrated to Australia, North America or New Zealand, Rhodesia/Zimbabwe etc. But I am also interested to include any local families here in Argyll or Glasgow etc. whose families had connections with Loch Caolisport or lower Loch Sween and down to Kilberry or either of the Leargnahensions. I have used Somerled MacMillan's 'Families of Knapdale' and 'The MacMillans and Their Septs' and also 'North Knapdale in the 17th and 18th Centuries' by (Rev) Alexander Fraser BD. I also have the fundamental paper by David Sellar of Edinburgh University on the Families of Knapdale descended from the Irish prince Anrothan who came over to Argyll in about 1050 and was ancestor of the MacSweens, MacGilchrists, MacSorleys, MacLachlans and Lamonts. I have also been provided with the research of Heather McFarlane in the Yukon about Loch Caolisport families. Looking at the leading families - Anrothan kindred c. 1050-1262 Menteiths of Knapdale1262-1360 (died out reverted to crown) Crown overlordship 1360-1376 Lords of the Isles 1376-1475 (Earldom of Ross taken away) Crown overlordship 1475-1481 Lords of the Isles 1481-1493 (part of Knapdale re-granted, then forfeit) Crown overlordship 1493-1499 (Argyll made Bailie of royal lands) Earl of Argyll overlord 1502-etc. These have fair outlines researched and written about them. What is less easy to document is the life of the people they were responsible for and their descendants who made their own choices in life. Any thoughts, suggestions, advice or material would be appreciated. Diarmid Campbell, Tullich Cottage, Kilmelford, Argyll PA34 4XA SCOTLAND - diarmid@cruachan.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Muir" <barry@muir.clara.co.uk> To: <SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 12:15 PM Subject: [ARGYLL] Genealogical Website > Hello List > Someone, earlier this year, sent reference to the List of an informative > Website which seemed to link all the recognised sites into one grouping, if > you were searching on a Surname basis. > Unfortunately !!, I have lost my Argyll folder and I was wondering, if this > site rings any bells with anyone, if they could kindly let me know. > I can only reiterate the old cry - keep regular backups. > > Many thanks and best wishes. > Barry > > Barry Muir > Kingston Bagpuize with Southmoor, Abingdon, Oxon, > e-mail:- barry@muir.clara.co.uk >

Hello List Someone, earlier this year, sent reference to the List of an informative Website which seemed to link all the recognised sites into one grouping, if you were searching on a Surname basis. Unfortunately !!, I have lost my Argyll folder and I was wondering, if this site rings any bells with anyone, if they could kindly let me know. I can only reiterate the old cry - keep regular backups. Many thanks and best wishes. Barry Barry Muir Kingston Bagpuize with Southmoor, Abingdon, Oxon, e-mail:- barry@muir.clara.co.uk

Hi, I am trying to complete the family picture and would love to know about the history and localities of any of the above. My Marr family at some point were based in Argyllshire. I have the following information. William Marr b. 1838 in Aberdeen, wife Mary Ann Taylor b. 1841 in Aberdeen. William Marr was a settmaker/journeyman, so I'm pretty sure he was following the work availbale in the quarries at that time. For a few years the family was based in Kilspindie, Perthshire and William worked at the Pitroddie Quarry. Two of their daughters were born there. One of their son's, Alexander Marr b. Ben Aur, Argyll; a daughter; Mary Ann Marr b. Furnace, Argyll and another daughter Ann Marr b. Ben Awe, Argyll. Daughter Mary Ann may well be the same Mary Ann I have found b. in Culmodden, Argyll in 1873. When William Marr and Mary Ann Taylor's son William (b.1861 in Aberdeen) got married in Kilspindie in 1881, the marriage certificate shows an address of Ardchattan, Argyllshire for both him and his parents and that William had followed his father's footsteps and worked as a stone-dresser. Can anyone shed some light on these addresses and their histories? Has anyone else got stonedressing ancestors who worked these quarries and may have come across my family members? many thanks, Karen