Hello. I am a new subscriber to the list and am searching for my direct ancestor Robert Fraser according to the 1881 census was born approx. 1832 in Culton, Argyll, Scotland. I have not been able to find a town called Culton. Does anyone know of Culton and/or the Frasers there? I know that my Robert Fraser married Marion Robb of Kirkconnel, Dumfries, Scotland in 1867 in Tradeston Glasgow. Many Thanks. Melissa Buckley USA

Hello listers, I have just learnt of an Argyll 1779 Census. My family comes from Donoon, according to the family memory. I wonder if this census is available or accessible. Luis. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM).

Hi Listers >Nicole Pickett wrote "is Baker an Argyll surname?" BAKER is, of course, along with SMITH one of those widespread "occupation" Surnames which are difficult to tie down; as it will appear from "Land's End to John O'Groat's." The first BAKERs came to Killarrow (aka Bowmore), Islay, Argyll in the mid 1700's. There were BAKERS from then on in Kilchoman and Portnahaven, on Islay, on Gigha and in Southend. However, it must be born in mind that BAXTER (a female baker) existed alongside BAKER as a Surname in particular in the Cowal Parishes [Inverchaolin, Dunoon & Kilmun, Kilmodan and Kilfinian]. There are today BAKERs in Kilmore & Kilbride, Campbeltown, Dunoon, Bowmore and Kildalton. Best wishes Les

Does any one have access to census records for 1841 & 1851 for Kilmun and Dunoon? According to her obituary my gr-gr grandmother Margaret ROSS married Hugh MUIR on 22 Jan 1833. An IGI entry lists two people of those names married on that date in Dunoon and Kilmun. The obituary also indicated that the family immigrated to the US in 1842, and that when she died (in 1878) she left two children (not named, sex not given) living in Glasgow. I've seen no evidence that these children ever lived with their parents in the US and so am assuming they were born between 1833 and June 1842 and remained in Scotland, possibly with relatives. Can any one find Hugh and Margaret in the 1841 census? Can any one find any "extra" Muir children in this area in 1851? Is any one else researching Muirs in this area? Thanks, Jeanne Allan

Hi people Here's a summary of some death records from Dunoon & Kilmun parish / District of Dunoon that I've picked up over the past few months. Let me know if you are interested in any of the following, and I'll be happy to post the relevant extracted details from the register. 1869 Thomas CHRISTIE (married to Mary RUSSELL, f. William CHRISTIE, m. Mary RUSSELL) - note: wife's name is an error - he was actually married to Elizabeth Wilson HETHERINGTON Donald Brotchie CAMPBELL (single, f. Neil CAMPBELL, m. Isabella SCOTT) Jane WALKER (single, f. Robert WALKER, m. Martha McFARLANE) 1892 Mary SINCLAIR (married to 1. William THOM, 2. Robert Leslie SMITH, f. Walter SINCLAIR, m. Margaret SUTHERLAND) Duncan McGREGOR (married to Isabella RIDDELL, f. Robert McGREGOR, m. Margaret ???) James McLINTOCK (married to Margaret BRYCE, f. Peter McLINTOCK, m. Mary BUCHANAN) 1894 David RALPH (single, f. James RALPH, m. Mary McINTYRE or RALPH) Elizabeth Wilson HETHERINGTON (widow of Thomas CHRISTIE, f. Robert HETHERINGTON, m. Catherine CRUIKSHANKS) Thomas HARKNESS (married to ??? ???, f. John HARKNESS, m. Isabella McLEAN) 1902 Robert Leslie SMITH (widower of Mary SINCLAIR or THOM, f. James SMITH, m. Agnes LESLIE) Janet Burnet CAIR (single, f. Thomas CAIR, m. Alice BLYTH) Donald SCRIMGEOUR (single, f. William SCRIMGEOUR, m. Grace JOHNSTON) 1919 William FERGUSON (married to 1. Elizabeth TIERNEY, 2. Margaret BOYD, f. William FERGUSON, m. Annie SCOULAR) Agnes Leslie SMITH (married to William CHRISTIE, f. Robert Leslie SMITH, m. Mary SINCLAIR or THOM) Walter RIDDELL (widower of Isabella DOUGLAS, f. James RIDDELL, m. Isabella LILICO) 1921 William MACNICOL (single, f. Duncan MACNICOL, m. Mary BELL) William CHRISTIE (widower of Agnes Leslie SMITH, f. Thomas CHRISTIE, m. Elizabeth HETHERINGTON) Margaret Skeldon JOHNSTON (widow of 1. Daniel McPHERSON, 2. James ALGIE, f. Duncan JOHNSTON, m. Grace SKELDON) Regards, Donna -- Donna Smillie The Leslie Smith Family http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/dms/lsfamily/

>From: "Donna Smillie" <dms@zetnet.co.uk> >To: SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [ARGYLL] Extras, deaths, Dunoon >Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 08:57:24 +0100 > >Hi people > >Here's a summary of some death records from Dunoon & Kilmun parish / >District of Dunoon that I've picked up over the past few months. Let me >know if you are interested in any of the following, and I'll be happy to >post the relevant extracted details from the register. Donna, I've put up a few pages of the Kilmun Kirkyard on my web site (photos and some notes about the types of gravestones and some photos of the stones). This is an ongoing project and will be added to from time to time. If you are interested open up the front page, scroll down the left to 'HISTORY' and then follow the links to Kilmun Kirkyard. The pics are 200 res and are available for anyone who wants to use them. http://home.btconnect.com/brucecampbell Bruce Campbell _________________________________________________________________ Get mobile Hotmail. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp

Hi Nicole, if you go to Scotlands People www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ you can do a name search for the surname Baker which will tell you the statisitics on there numbers from 1552 to 1952. If you then register you can do a search for Bakers in Argyll, and elsewhere. Jimmy McPherson >From: Nicole Pickett <krsnick@yahoo.com> >Hello list > >I have been reading some books about scottish >emigration to North Carolina and learned that many of >the emigrants came from Argyll. One book mentions two >men with surname Baker as possibly being from >Scotland. Has anyone on this list ever heard Baker >mentioned as being an Argyll surname? > >Nicole _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool emoticons - download MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger

Hi people Here's a summary of some birth records from Dunoon & Kilmun parish / District of Dunoon that I've picked up over the past few months - parents' names given in brackets after each name. Let me know if you are interested in any of the following births, and I'll be happy to post the relevant extracted details from the register. 1856 Agnes Leslie SMITH (Robert Leslie SMITH and Mary SINCLAIR or THOM) Alexander Campbell SMITH (Alexander Campbell SMITH and Christina JOLLY) Jane McCULLOCH (Henry McCULLOCH and Margaret FLEMING) 1887 Alexander BLUE (John BLUE and Mary BARCLAY) Thomas CHRISTIE (William CHRISTIE and Agnes Leslie SMITH) Margaret Young WILSON (Martin WILSON and Margaret YOUNG) 1891 John THOMSON (Robert THOMSON and Lilias CROW) Isabel Seaford LOGAN (William LOGAN and Agnes HERBERT) Robert Leslie SMITH (James Robert Leslie SMITH and Martha Hannah POTTS) 1892 Samuel GALBRAITH (William GALBRAITH and Margaret McKAY) Margaret Graham SMITH (James Robert Leslie SMITH and Martha Hannah POTTS) Thomas BROWN (John BROWN and Jame FRAME) Susan TAIT (George TAIT and Agnes HOWARD) - twin Joseph TAIT (George TAIT and Agnes HOWARD) - twin Robert Leslie Smith CHRISTIE (William CHRISTIE and Agnes Leslie SMITH) 1894 David McKerrow HUNTER (Alexander Stewart Dees HUNTER and Jessie McKERROW) Walter Sinclair SMITH (James Robert Leslie SMITH and Martha Hannah POTTS) William Alexander MACINTYRE (Alexander MACINTYRE and Susan MURRAY) 1895 Mary P??? Walker McLAREN (William McLAREN and Sarah CLOWSON) Patrick HALFERN (James HALFERN and Cecilia MALCON?) James Robert Leslie SMITH (James Robert Leslie SMITH and Martha Hannah POTTS) Jane Agnes Kinney POLLOCK (Arthur POLLOCK and Jane KINNEY) Gilbert Cuthbert KIRKALDIE (Thomas KIRKALDIE and Janet WALKER) William Hetherington CHRISTIE (William CHRISTIE and Agnes Leslie SMITH) 1897 Jane Harvie McLEAN (James McLEAN and Margaret LOCHHEAD) John CHALMERS (George CHALMERS and Mary HUNTER) John Graham SMITH (James Robert Leslie SMITH and Martha Hannah POTTS) 1900 Eric Sinclair SMITH (James Robert Leslie SMITH and Martha Hannah POTTS) John Hingland Martin STENHOUSE (David STENHOUSE and Jeannie Fallows MARTIN) George Wylie GILMOUR (Alexander GILMOUR and Isabella WYLIE) Regards, Donna -- Donna Smillie The Leslie Smith Family http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/dms/lsfamily/

Another site which is useful as well as interesting is on by Hugh Wallis > based on IGI batch numbers > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/index.htm Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: <SCT-ARGYLL-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <SCT-ARGYLL-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:00 AM Subject: SCT-ARGYLL-D Digest V03 #88

Another site which is useful as well as interesting is on by Hugh Wallis based on IGI batch numbers http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Les HORN" <Leshorn@ythanonich.freeserve.co.uk> To: <SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 11:30 PM Subject: [ARGYLL] Re: Names > Hi Listers > > With all the discussion on interchange of names thought you might find this web-site useful : > > http://www.crosswinds.net/%7Edaire/names/main.html > > Best wishes > Les > > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ > > > ______________________________

Another surname change of interest was the name MacSporran which was anglicized to Purcell or Pursell. The Purcells were the keepers of the purse for the McDonald clan. I understand that MacSporran means "son of the purse bearer" (correct me if I am wrong) so you can see the connection between the surnames MacSporran and Purcell. I am very interested in this surname connection so would appreciate hearing from anyone with similar interests. Doug Purcell Eufaula, Alabama

This suvject of surname changes is becoming really interesting to me. I know of a person whose forbears were named McChoinnich (from Argyll) and when they moved to Glasgow, they changed the name to Buchanan. Together with what has been said in this list, I am tempted to gather that changing surnames must have had a very specific cause. Any comments? Luis. Jimmy McPherson <templar_bb2461314@hotmail.com> wrote: A number of years ago I attended a lecture at The Glasgow & West Of Scotland FHS, the speaker was Bill Lawson of Isle of Harris, who is a specialist on outer hebridean ancestry, he spoke of the many surname changes owing to anglicanisation of Gaelic surnames,he has his own website at www.seallam.com/coleisthu.htm he spoke of one instance in the 1841 census of Islay where the enumerator was an Frenchman who spoke good enough English but had no knowledge of the Gaelic, he asked what the meaning of the name McGowan was Smith was the answer, or to put it more exactly Humphy backed Smith,( round shouldered) so thereafter he would enter all McGowans as Smith in the census. He went on to give several other instances of surname changes. Jim McPherson >From: "Margaret Kipp" >Subject: [ARGYLL] Name switches McCombich / Stewart >While we are on the topic of name switches, and since this is the Argyll >List, can anyone provide information on the reason /background for the >following: > >The name McCombich (various spellings) is found almost exclusively in >Argyll >and Perthshire. My Stewarts are in Perthshire but (according to family >legend) emigrated from Argyll about 1650. Shortly after they began to use >McCombich (Gaelic for companion) as a surname and then reverted to Stewart. >I have documents ancestors who were baptized McCombich and married as >Stewart. We believe that there is some connection with our family's >immigration to Perthshire with the legendary Lady of Lawers. > >Margaret > > >==== SCT-ARGYLL Mailing List ==== >********************************************************************** >Need an LDS film number to order a film at your local LDS library? Try >http://geocities.com/Heartland/Garden/1311/13300-scottishreference.htm > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool emoticons - download MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger ==== SCT-ARGYLL Mailing List ==== ********************************************************************** Need an LDS film number to order a film at your local LDS library? Try http://geocities.com/Heartland/Garden/1311/13300-scottishreference.htm --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM).

A number of years ago I attended a lecture at The Glasgow & West Of Scotland FHS, the speaker was Bill Lawson of Isle of Harris, who is a specialist on outer hebridean ancestry, he spoke of the many surname changes owing to anglicanisation of Gaelic surnames,he has his own website at www.seallam.com/coleisthu.htm he spoke of one instance in the 1841 census of Islay where the enumerator was an Frenchman who spoke good enough English but had no knowledge of the Gaelic, he asked what the meaning of the name McGowan was Smith was the answer, or to put it more exactly Humphy backed Smith,( round shouldered) so thereafter he would enter all McGowans as Smith in the census. He went on to give several other instances of surname changes. Jim McPherson >From: "Margaret Kipp" <margaretkipp@rogers.com> >Subject: [ARGYLL] Name switches McCombich / Stewart >While we are on the topic of name switches, and since this is the Argyll >List, can anyone provide information on the reason /background for the >following: > >The name McCombich (various spellings) is found almost exclusively in >Argyll >and Perthshire. My Stewarts are in Perthshire but (according to family >legend) emigrated from Argyll about 1650. Shortly after they began to use >McCombich (Gaelic for companion) as a surname and then reverted to Stewart. >I have documents ancestors who were baptized McCombich and married as >Stewart. We believe that there is some connection with our family's >immigration to Perthshire with the legendary Lady of Lawers. > >Margaret > > >==== SCT-ARGYLL Mailing List ==== >********************************************************************** >Need an LDS film number to order a film at your local LDS library? Try >http://geocities.com/Heartland/Garden/1311/13300-scottishreference.htm > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool emoticons - download MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger

Hello list I have been reading some books about scottish emigration to North Carolina and learned that many of the emigrants came from Argyll. One book mentions two men with surname Baker as possibly being from Scotland. Has anyone on this list ever heard Baker mentioned as being an Argyll surname? Nicole __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com

While we are on the topic of name switches, and since this is the Argyll List, can anyone provide information on the reason /background for the following: The name McCombich (various spellings) is found almost exclusively in Argyll and Perthshire. My Stewarts are in Perthshire but (according to family legend) emigrated from Argyll about 1650. Shortly after they began to use McCombich (Gaelic for companion) as a surname and then reverted to Stewart. I have documents ancestors who were baptized McCombich and married as Stewart. We believe that there is some connection with our family's immigration to Perthshire with the legendary Lady of Lawers. Margaret

Hi Chris: Peggy or Peg are often used as short forms for Margaret. Margaret in Toronto ----- Original Message ----- From: "J.C.Christopher Glass" <chris@jccglass.fsnet.co.uk> To: <SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 7:43 AM Subject: [ARGYLL] re: Mothers names > Can Any one advise what Pegg is short for > I have a > Margaret/Maria/Pegg/Peggy COLQUHOUN > in Kilmalie > and im hoping they are all the same mother > > CHRIS GLASS RUISLIP UK > > check out > my family trees > http://www.geocities.com/jccglass > > Yorkshire Trees > > >From Hull , Bridlington; > Richardson , Jagger , Brown , Caton(&lincs) > Barron , Swift > > >From Nafferton, Lowthorpe, Thorneholme, Driffield; > Crompton , Elgey , Jefferson , Hyde , Richardson > > >From Wakefield, Wrenthrope,Sandal Magna; > Roberts, Hampshire, Sugden, > Blackburn, Pearson, Chatterton, Firth, > Ramsden , Helme , Colley , Saville , Sutcliff, Eastwood > > > SCOTLAND > >From Kinross, Grandtuly , Ballachulish , Stathmiglo; > Glass, White , Moncur , Miller. > Campbell, Robertson , McFarlane , MacIntyre, > Cameron,Colquhoun > > NewZealand > >From Auckland, Devonport, Lawrence Otago, New Plymouth; > Glass, Clarke , Lowe , Mann, Gunson, Waddel > Campbell , Cameron, McBeath, Guillard, Moncur, > > NON GEN jazz! > http://www.geocities.com/jazzupstairs > > ______________________________

Extract from today's "Scottish Snippets: >"MacDonalds Revenge" The massacre of 38 Macdonalds in Glencoe in 1692 by government forces led by Captain Robert Campbell, reverberates still in Scotland, especially amongst MacDonalds, many of whom blame the clan Campbell for the incident. The latest evidence for this cropped up this week when Andrew McDonald, general manager of the Edinburgh Dungeon visitor attraction, sent out letters to over 1,000 Campbells in the telephone directory to tell them about their new feature "Clan Wars" which is based on the massacre at Glencoe. But the letter went on to say that as an "act of extracting a modicum of revenge" the Campbells were being given a voucher which entitled them to "one ticket for the price of two". But instead of taking the letter as a publicity stunt, a number of the Campbell recipients complained and now Mr McDonald has been reprimanded by his head office. McDonald commented: "The fact that so many Campbells complained about the tongue-in-cheek letter proves the feud between the clans is still on-going." Of course, the publicity about the letter will probably mean more people going to the new presentation, so Mr McDonald may get a letter of commendation as well?

Re: Pegg=Margaret my thanks to Edward and Helen for confirming my suspicions chris Glass ruislip uk

Hi Listers With all the discussion on interchange of names thought you might find this web-site useful : http://www.crosswinds.net/%7Edaire/names/main.html Best wishes Les --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi all, Does anyone know where the Poor Law Applications for Oban are located? I know the libraries in both Paisley and Glasgow hold their respective Applications and that you can look them up there. Does anyone know if Oban records are located in Oban Public Library and can you do lookups? I would appreciate any help. Thanks, Jackie