Hi Joy Would be grateful for any assistance. If you want to send me your e-mail address I will tell you what I have so far. Doreen

Hullo List Is anyone out there related to Alexander McKinlay born Campbeltown 1850-60? I have found in my great grandfather's belongings a letter from him in very fond terms written when my great grandad left Argyll for Australia in 1886 Thanks, Linda Hepburn lindah@gil.com.au Australia

I am having trouble tracing any information at all on a John Ferguson born around 1855/57 in Kilmorich. His parents were John Ferguson and Isabella McCallum. John Jnr. later married in Oban in 1884 to an Ann Sinclair but I can still find no record of his parents, neither marriage certificate or death certificates for either parent. Anyone any ideas. I have searched Scotlands people and also tried Edinburgh Records Office. Any help would be appreciated. Doreen doreen@irdor.fsnet.co.uk

I have the same problem Joy with my Grahams . My Mary Graham (Kilbrandon) married Duncan McIntosh about 1776 . I know no more and hope one day that I can link up with my Grahams. My only hope I feel is matching with someone who is researching Graham from the are . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy" <beatsme@netins.net> To: <SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 1:21 AM Subject: [ARGYLL] Kilninver McIntyre's > Is anyone working on their McIntyre families who were from Kilninver > Parish? I have one family group with scant information besides my > primary line. > The family I hope to trace is: > John McIntyre m Mary Graham 26 Oct 1763 Kilbrandon > Children: Ann 1 oct 1776 Kilninver & Kilmelford > Elizabeth b 28 Mar 1779 Kilninver ** > Donald 14 Jul 1781 Kilninver > Effy 16 Sept 1784 > > I suspect that Kilbrandon may have been the brides parish, wonder if > there were other children as these were the OPR entries I located, > (large gap between 1763 & 1776). I do have information on Elizabeth, > but that's all. > > Any connections would be appreciated. > Joy, USA > > > > > ==== SCT-ARGYLL Mailing List ==== > ******************************************************************* > http://members.aol.com/theweeharp/argyll.htm is the Argyll GenWeb site > >

Is anyone working on their McIntyre families who were from Kilninver Parish? I have one family group with scant information besides my primary line. The family I hope to trace is: John McIntyre m Mary Graham 26 Oct 1763 Kilbrandon Children: Ann 1 oct 1776 Kilninver & Kilmelford Elizabeth b 28 Mar 1779 Kilninver ** Donald 14 Jul 1781 Kilninver Effy 16 Sept 1784 I suspect that Kilbrandon may have been the brides parish, wonder if there were other children as these were the OPR entries I located, (large gap between 1763 & 1776). I do have information on Elizabeth, but that's all. Any connections would be appreciated. Joy, USA

Harold C Buckmaster was general manager of the British Aluminium Company and Loch Leven Water and Electric Power Company from early 1908 until mid-1910. His wife's maiden surname is believed to have been Macdonald. At that time they had at least one son - Harold (Harry) Ronald. Can any one on this list say anything of the parentage of Harold C Buckmaster, his wife or their descendants? Donald Maclean.

Hello Donald, Originally I am from Kinlochleven, not very often there are many queries about it! I have a couple of books on Kinlochleven as well, but none give the names of any of the folks, my own grandfather was there at the time you question about, and from what I gather it was a pretty wild place, through research etc. My guess is that the lady are looking for comes from Ballachulish way, just a guess though, it does say that the men who were there took their wives from surrounding areas, as there were very few women in Kinlochleven. One suggestion I have if you cannot find the appropriate certificates from Scotlands People, is that you check out a small museum in Kinlochleven, it is called the Aluminium Story. It may have something about him since he was manager. I cannot find the address anywhere, but I imagine Les Horn who is a member of this list will be able to accommodate you with the postal address. As a footnote in January 1911 the total population of Kinlochleven was 1,189. a split of 803 males and 386 females. Christine Joudrey Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald Maclean" <donald.maclean@virgin.net> To: <SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 5:38 PM Subject: [ARGYLL] BUCKMASTER at Kinlochleven > Harold C Buckmaster was general manager of the British Aluminium Company and Loch Leven > Water and Electric Power Company from early 1908 until mid-1910. His wife's maiden > surname is believed to have been Macdonald. At that time they had at least one son - > Harold (Harry) Ronald. > Can any one on this list say anything of the parentage of Harold C Buckmaster, his wife or > their descendants? > > Donald Maclean. > > > > ==== SCT-ARGYLL Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************* > GenUKI Argyll home page http://www.roe.ac.uk/genuki/argyll/index.html > >

Hello I am trying to trace some ancestors. Alexander MCLACHLAN married Caroline PORTER 1857 in Sydney, Australia. According to his marriage cert he was born in Fort William about 1833. I have found a christening on 14/4/1833, Ballachulish His father's occupation was given as a Mariner but there was no christian name. His mother's name was Margaret Cameron. I have found a marriage for a Lachlan MCLACHLAN and a Peggy CAMERON in 1827,Kilmallie,Argyll. I have no idea how Alexander arrived in Australia, whether he had siblings or even if his mother and father came with him or stayed in Scotland. Any help would be appreciated. Thankyou Anne Bain

I should really at my age have learned not to dash off provocative emails. However, I wanted to draw attention to something which is a misunderstanding which has been so frequently repeated to the point that it is regarded as 'true'. The misunderstanding arises from what Black says in his book The Surnames of Scotland. He starts his article on Baxter by saying that it meant 'originally a woman that baked.,' and then goes on to relate the ending of the Old English word bæcestre to the agent suffix ster. What, however, he does not say is what he means by 'originally', because this word was already used in Anglo-Saxon times for a male baker. The truth of the matter is that, by the time surnames were coming into existence in Scotland, the word baxter referred usually to a male baker. What is of much more significance to those studying families in the past is that baxter belongs to a family of words ending in -ster and referring to occupations, which survived in Scotland far longer than they did in England and several of which became surnames. Others are brewster, dempster (the person who gave out the sentence in a criminal trial), dyster, huckster, kemster ( wool-comber), litster (dyer), maltster, sewster, spinster and webster . Almost all, except dempster, could be used for both men and women, but kemster, sewster and spinster most often referred to women. The surnames derived from these give Lowland surnames but the actual names for the occupations can all be found in Argyll documents of the 18th century and earlier. Frank Bigwood

Hello All, Could some one please help with the location of a Glenshira or Glamshira, Inverary. I'm not sure whether this is a farm or maybe a small village. I'm looking for any information available on a Donald McGilvray who is recorded as living there in 1898. Donald was born on the Isle of Mull in 1856 and was the son of Donald McGilvray and Mary Lamont. Which parish would this location come under? Your help is very much appreciated, Jan McGilvray-Peasnell Sydney/Oz

The inlet of Loch Fyne at Inveraray is called Loch Shira, and the glen running more or less northwest from there is Glen Shira. The parish is Inveraray and Glenaray. Iain McKenzie ----- Original Message ----- From: "janice mcgilvray-peasnell" <jam1may@hn.ozemail.com.au> To: <SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 12:22 PM Subject: [ARGYLL] Donald McGilvray Inverary > Hello All, > > Could some one please help with the location of a Glenshira or Glamshira, Inverary. > > Which parish would this location come under? > > Your help is very much appreciated, > > Jan McGilvray-Peasnell > Sydney/Oz > > > ==== SCT-ARGYLL Mailing List ==== > ***************************************************************** > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Argyll is the > GenConnect board for Argyll > > >

Hello Les and List. Thank you very much for the responses to my Culton query. I have the CD set put out by the LDS Church for the 1881 Census. The source is listed as FHL Film 0203679 Volume 644-13 EnumDist 35 Page 11. The family lived at 5 Gloucester ST., Govan, Lanark, Scotland. Robert Fraser is listed as the head, age 49 with his birthplace as Culton, Argyll, Scotland. His occupation is listed as Engine Driver. I hope this information is of help to you Les. I am very thankful for any help or suggestion. It would be wonderful if my Robert Fraser were the same as the one Les referrs to as son of William Fraser and Janet Cameron. What is the source of your information Les? I am sure that Mariam Ross is infact my Marion Robb, the wife of Robert Fraser. I did not know who her parents (namely her father) were but suspected thru correspondence with the Kirkconnel Heritage Society that she was somehow tied to Agnes Turnbull and Marion Laidlaw there. My Great Grandfather was David Fraser, son of Robert Fraser and Marion Robb. David Fraser married Helen Clark. Their first daughter was my grandmother, Janet Gardner Fraser. She came to the USA along with her brother Robert. She worked in New York as a maid for the Rockefellers for awhile, married my grandfather and they settled in southwestern Connecticut. Again, thank you for all your help and information. What you have provided has already solved a few mysteries I had! Best Regards, Melissa Buckley ----- Original Message ----- From: Les HORN To: Doug & Melissa Buckley Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Culton/Fraser Hi Melissa I'm a researcher in North Argyll. Other than the Calton in Kintyre, north of Campbeltown ARL, I can't think of another ~ Culton in ARL. Unfortunately you don't say in which 1881 Parish/ED you found the Census information. However, I've had a dig about for Robert & Marion and have come up with the following; about which you may already be aware. Robert FRASER b17/1/1833 c 18/3/1833 Corpach Kilmallie ARL (near Fort William) - prnts William FRASER + Janet CAMERON m 29/7/1867 Tradeston, Glasgow LNK Mariam ROSS c 4/8/1832 Kirkconnel by Sanquhar DFS - prnts William ROBB + Agnes TURNBULL | David FRASER b 27/1/1868 Tradeston, Glasgow LNK | James FRASER b 19/6/1870 Tradeston, Glasgow LNK | John FRASER b 1/8/1872 Tradeston, Glasgow LNK Which of the FRASERS came out to the US., when & where to ? If you can say which 1881 Census/Parish/ED/Place you got the information from I will, if I can get sight of it, have a see if I can interpret the Culton for you. Best wishes Les ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug & Melissa Buckley" <dbmeesa@together.net> To: <SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 2:14 AM Subject: [ARGYLL] Culton/Fraser > Hello. I am a new subscriber to the list and am searching for my direct ancestor Robert Fraser according to the 1881 census was born approx. 1832 in Culton, Argyll, Scotland. I have not been able to find a town called Culton. Does anyone know of Culton and/or the Frasers there? I know that my Robert Fraser married Marion Robb of Kirkconnel, Dumfries, Scotland in 1867 in Tradeston Glasgow. > > Many Thanks. > > Melissa Buckley > USA > > ______________________________

Hi Lists Thought you might be interested in the following; especially if you're researching the McCOWANs who emigrated to Canada. In any case it makes good reading. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3030889.stm Best wishes Les --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Frank Bigwood wrote : > Although I do not disagree with Les Horn's comments on Baker, I would wonder > where he got the idea that 'baxter' was a female baker. It is well attested as > the normal Scots word for 'baker' from the 15th to the 19th century, during > which it was gradually replaced in general usage by the English form. A little bit of research into the Scots form BAXTER, of the name BAKER, reveals : Baxter - from Old English baecestre "a female baker". In Middle English it changed to Baxster; and old Scottish Latin records list is as Pistor. Best Wishes Les ----- Original Message ----- From: <Wflbigwood@aol.com> To: <SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 8:10 PM Subject: [ARGYLL] Re: SCT-ARGYLL-D Digest V03 #90 > > Frank Bigwood >

> My gr gr gr grandmother was Barbara McSporran, born c 1812 in Killean & > Kilchenzie parish. I think her parents were Peter McSporran and Barbara > Brochlan. I'd never made the connection to Purcell before - thanks! > If anyone has any information on Barbara or Peter McSporran, I'd be most > appreciative. Barbara married Duncan Morrison and had, I believe, six > children. I have reason to believe that Barbara and Duncan lived at the > farm at Killacraw. Neill married Catherine Campbell, born in Southend, but > part of the Campbells from Big Kiln. Neill and Catherine were parents to my > great grandmother, Mary Agnes Morrison, later Mary Grant. My grandmother was > sent to stay for a time with her uncle Neil, Mary's brother, in Carradale. > Anyone know anything? > > Erica > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Purcell2" <dcpurcell@earthlink.net> > To: <SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:53 PM > Subject: [ARGYLL] MacSporran and Purcell Surnames > > > > Another surname change of interest was the name MacSporran which was > anglicized to Purcell or Pursell. The Purcells were the keepers of the purse > for the McDonald clan. I understand that MacSporran means "son of the purse > bearer" (correct me if I am wrong) so you can see the connection between the > surnames MacSporran and Purcell. > > > > I am very interested in this surname connection so would appreciate > hearing from anyone with similar interests. > > > > Doug Purcell > > Eufaula, Alabama > > > > > > ==== SCT-ARGYLL Mailing List ==== > > ***************************************************************** > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Argyll is the > > GenConnect board for Argyll > > >

Looking for information on a David Stewart who married Janet McMillan in Kilcalmonel Parish around 1826. David was the son of David Stewart & Betty McGill. Believe family lived at a farm called Refleuch/Refliuch Farm on the east coast of Kintyre. Any help you be appreciated. Deb adamsp@magma.ca

Although I do not disagree with Les Horn's comments on Baker, I would wonder where he got the idea that 'baxter' was a female baker. It is well attested as the normal Scots word for 'baker' from the 15th to the 19th century, during which it was gradually replaced in general usage by the English form. Frank Bigwood

Heheh... indeed, given the recent discussion about Shipka Pass! Though Melissa wrote that the census entry indicated "Culton, Argyll", so I only looked in the Gazetteer listing for Argyll for something similar to Culton. :-) Regards, Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmy McPherson" <templar_bb2461314@hotmail.com> > Further to the suggestion that Culton might be a misspelling of calton near > Campbletown, there is also the district of Glasgow in the east end called > Calton! > > >From: "Donna Smillie" <dms@zetnet.co.uk> > > > >I wonder if "Culton" might be a mis-transcription of "Calton"? There is a > >Calton at the north end of Campbeltown on the Kintyre peninsula. > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Doug & Melissa Buckley" <dbmeesa@together.net> > > > > > Hello. I am a new subscriber to the list and am searching for my direct > >ancestor Robert Fraser according to the 1881 census was born approx. 1832 > >in > >Culton, Argyll, Scotland. I have not been able to find a town called > >Culton. Does anyone know of Culton and/or the Frasers there? I know that > >my Robert Fraser married Marion Robb of Kirkconnel, Dumfries, Scotland in > >1867 in Tradeston Glasgow.

I wonder if "Culton" might be a mis-transcription of "Calton"? There is a Calton at the north end of Campbeltown on the Kintyre peninsula. The Gazetteer at http://www.old-maps.co.uk is really useful for this - you can scroll through lists of place names, and look for something that is similar to the name you have. Then you can either view the location on the old maps on that website, or go to http://www.streetmap.co.uk and look for the same place on a modern map. It's not foolproof of course, but it's a useful resource when you're trying to find a town or village and you're not sure if you've got quite the right spelling. :-) Hope that helps... Regards, Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug & Melissa Buckley" <dbmeesa@together.net> To: <SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 2:14 AM Subject: [ARGYLL] Culton/Fraser > Hello. I am a new subscriber to the list and am searching for my direct ancestor Robert Fraser according to the 1881 census was born approx. 1832 in Culton, Argyll, Scotland. I have not been able to find a town called Culton. Does anyone know of Culton and/or the Frasers there? I know that my Robert Fraser married Marion Robb of Kirkconnel, Dumfries, Scotland in 1867 in Tradeston Glasgow. > > Many Thanks. > > Melissa Buckley > USA > > > ==== SCT-ARGYLL Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > Need an LDS film number to order a film at your local LDS library? Try > http://geocities.com/Heartland/Garden/1311/13300-scottishreference.htm > >

Further to the suggestion that Culton might be a misspelling of calton near Campbletown, there is also the district of Glasgow in the east end called Calton! Jim McPherson >From: "Donna Smillie" <dms@zetnet.co.uk> >To: SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] CULTON (place name) - possibly CALTON? >Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:41:39 +0100 > >I wonder if "Culton" might be a mis-transcription of "Calton"? There is a >Calton at the north end of Campbeltown on the Kintyre peninsula. > >The Gazetteer at http://www.old-maps.co.uk is really useful for this - you >can scroll through lists of place names, and look for something that is >similar to the name you have. Then you can either view the location on the >old maps on that website, or go to http://www.streetmap.co.uk and look for >the same place on a modern map. It's not foolproof of course, but it's a >useful resource when you're trying to find a town or village and you're not >sure if you've got quite the right spelling. :-) > >Hope that helps... > >Regards, >Donna > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Doug & Melissa Buckley" <dbmeesa@together.net> >To: <SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 2:14 AM >Subject: [ARGYLL] Culton/Fraser > > > > Hello. I am a new subscriber to the list and am searching for my direct >ancestor Robert Fraser according to the 1881 census was born approx. 1832 >in >Culton, Argyll, Scotland. I have not been able to find a town called >Culton. Does anyone know of Culton and/or the Frasers there? I know that >my Robert Fraser married Marion Robb of Kirkconnel, Dumfries, Scotland in >1867 in Tradeston Glasgow. > > > > Many Thanks. > > > > Melissa Buckley > > USA > > > > > > ==== SCT-ARGYLL Mailing List ==== > > ********************************************************************** > > Need an LDS film number to order a film at your local LDS library? Try > > http://geocities.com/Heartland/Garden/1311/13300-scottishreference.htm > > > > > > >==== SCT-ARGYLL Mailing List ==== >********************************************************************* >GenUKI Argyll home page http://www.roe.ac.uk/genuki/argyll/index.html > _________________________________________________________________ On the move? Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile