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    1. Re: [ARGYLL] Donald /Daniel interchangeable first names?
    2. Sarah Jane Mckenzie
    3. Has anyone ever seen the name Siddie? I was wondering if it could have been Liddie in the census instead of Siddie. With Liddie, could her name have been Lydia? Jane -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kathleen Van Heuit Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 6:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Donald /Daniel interchangeable first names? That is a great website--http://www.whatsinaname.net. I also would like to add that my gggrandmother was Sarah O'Neill, born in Ireland. I found a copy of the marriage papers for her daughter where her signature looks more like "Settie" than anything else. I figure that's a phonetic spelling of "Sadie", one pet name for "Sarah". Kathleen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.17/505 - Release Date: 10/27/2006

    10/28/2006 01:36:20
    1. [ARGYLL] Donald /Daniel interchangeable first names?
    2. Jean Hammond
    3. Hi Sheila My Grandfather was named and christened Donald, but everyone called him Dan. I also have a grandmother named Janet, who went by the name Jean. I am named after her and a couple of older people in the family have sometimes called me Jennie. Jean >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sheila Lafleur" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 8:39 PM >> Subject: [ARGYLL] Donald /Daniel interchangeable first names? >> >> >> > Hi List >> > >> > I was wondering if anyone on list knows... of interchangeable >> > first >> > names.. >> > I have run across Jean - Jane.. to discover they are the same >> > person >> > now >> > that jean/ Jane are interchangeable I wonder how many other first >> > name >> > are >> > as well. >> > >> > Would the same apply also to Donald/ Daniel ? As these 2 names >> > are >> > confusing me in 2 different generations. >>

    10/28/2006 11:47:45
    1. Re: [ARGYLL] Donald /Daniel interchangeable first names?
    2. Kathleen Van Heuit
    3. On Oct 28, 2006, at 4:13 PM, Peter Dillon wrote: > > Finlay / Philip are the same Really? that's amazing. And 'Findley' would be a form of 'Finlay', wouldn't it? Does anyone know where 'Findley' originated, or where that spelling predominates? Is it more Scottish than Irish? I am doing some research for a Findley friend, but so far can't get the family back across the pond - from the south-east part of the US. Thanks for any information, Kathleen VH > > Ewan / Ian / John, etc can be interchangeable >

    10/28/2006 11:38:46
    1. Re: [ARGYLL] Donald /Daniel interchangeable first names?
    2. Kathleen Van Heuit
    3. That is a great website--http://www.whatsinaname.net. I also would like to add that my gggrandmother was Sarah O'Neill, born in Ireland. I found a copy of the marriage papers for her daughter where her signature looks more like "Settie" than anything else. I figure that's a phonetic spelling of "Sadie", one pet name for "Sarah". Kathleen

    10/28/2006 11:30:08
    1. Re: [ARGYLL] Donald /Daniel interchangeable first names?
    2. Sheila Lafleur
    3. Thank you kindly Martyn I was just given a wonderful site from Sandra on our list http://www.whatsinaname.net/ peter/patrick...... duncan/dougal ....... daniel/donald... I see them all there as interchangeable... and names I find often in my STEWART line. and as you wrote Agnes/ Nancy I often wondered how my ggg grandmother Agnes ended up being called "Nancy" now I know :-) I learned something new today *smiles* Much thanks Sheila ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martyn Taylor" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Donald /Daniel interchangeable first names? > Sheila > > It's not always easy to distinguish between (1) different names used > interchangeably, like Donald/Daniel, (2) common shortenings, like > Archibald/Archie, and (3) simple spelling variations, like > Catherine/Catharine/Katherine/Katharine. Names that I have seen > interchanged, which may belong to the first of these three categories, > include Ann/Agnes/Nancy, Christian/Christina, Emily/Amelia, > Janet/Jessie/Jean (as well as Jane), and Peter/Patrick. There are many > others, I am sure. > > Martyn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sheila Lafleur" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 8:39 PM > Subject: [ARGYLL] Donald /Daniel interchangeable first names? > > > > Hi List > > > > I was wondering if anyone on list knows... of interchangeable first > > names.. > > I have run across Jean - Jane.. to discover they are the same person > > now > > that jean/ Jane are interchangeable I wonder how many other first name > > are > > as well. > > > > Would the same apply also to Donald/ Daniel ? As these 2 names are > > confusing me in 2 different generations. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/28/2006 10:49:45
    1. Re: [ARGYLL] Donald /Daniel interchangeable first names?
    2. Sheila Lafleur
    3. Thank you Sandy for the website... I will besure to read threw it, and try to connect a few more dots :-) Sheila ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra McLellan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 3:49 PM Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Donald /Daniel interchangeable first names? > I have seen several instances of Donald/Daniel being interchanged in my > line. > > see http://www.whatsinaname.net/ > > Sandy McLellan > [email protected] > > >Hi List > > > >I was wondering if anyone on list knows... of interchangeable first names.. > >I have run across Jean - Jane.. to discover they are the same person now > >that jean/ Jane are interchangeable I wonder how many other first name are > >as well. > > > >Would the same apply also to Donald/ Daniel ? As these 2 names are > >confusing me in 2 different generations. > > > > > >Thanks for you help > > > >Sheila Stewart- Lafleur > > > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/28/2006 10:14:39
    1. Re: [ARGYLL] Donald /Daniel interchangeable first names?
    2. Sheila Lafleur
    3. thanks ughhhhhh a short drive too DAHUNTDIX ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Donald /Daniel interchangeable first names? > Absolutely !! > And it will drive you nuts :-)) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/28/2006 10:12:04
    1. Re: [ARGYLL] Donald /Daniel interchangeable first names?
    2. Sandra McLellan
    3. I have seen several instances of Donald/Daniel being interchanged in my line. see http://www.whatsinaname.net/ Sandy McLellan [email protected] >Hi List > >I was wondering if anyone on list knows... of interchangeable first names.. >I have run across Jean - Jane.. to discover they are the same person now >that jean/ Jane are interchangeable I wonder how many other first name are >as well. > >Would the same apply also to Donald/ Daniel ? As these 2 names are >confusing me in 2 different generations. > > >Thanks for you help > >Sheila Stewart- Lafleur > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

    10/28/2006 09:49:16
    1. Re: [ARGYLL] Donald /Daniel interchangeable first names?
    2. Absolutely !! And it will drive you nuts :-))

    10/28/2006 09:47:22
    1. [ARGYLL] Donald /Daniel interchangeable first names?
    2. Sheila Lafleur
    3. Hi List I was wondering if anyone on list knows... of interchangeable first names.. I have run across Jean - Jane.. to discover they are the same person now that jean/ Jane are interchangeable I wonder how many other first name are as well. Would the same apply also to Donald/ Daniel ? As these 2 names are confusing me in 2 different generations. Thanks for you help Sheila Stewart- Lafleur

    10/28/2006 09:39:14
    1. [ARGYLL] Interchangeable 1st names
    2. Jane Sherwood
    3. Hi Shelia, My great-aunt was named Mary Ann but was always called Polly, it was supposed to be a common name for those named Mary Ann. I also have Henry and Harry being interchanged. On some census Henry is used and on another census Harry is used. I never knew my Uncle Harry's name was really Henry until I started this project. Jane Jane Sherwood [email protected] EarthLink Revolves Around You.

    10/28/2006 09:16:55
    1. [ARGYLL] FW: Counties of Scotland
    2. Sarah Jane Mckenzie
    3. This is a great resource page. IT is also quite interesting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counties_of_Scotland

    10/24/2006 12:51:41
    1. Re: [ARGYLL] lookup "Inhabitans of the Argyll Estates" McKenzie
    2. retreat64
    3. Dear Ian, Are there any John McKenzie and Lillias McKenzie couple in this record around 1790 - 1800 + years? How big was this estate? Can I get this book in Australia do you think will ask at the Brisbane Library too. Yours Maria McKenzie Queensland Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Phillips" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] lookup "Inhabitans of the Argyll Estates" McKenzie > > Hi Lorna, > > These are the John MacKenzie. > > Glenchrepusdale > > John McKenzie cottar and daughter > > Aross (Mull) > > John McKenzie innkeeper age 64 > Duncan his son 36 > Angus McArthur his servant 50 > His wife, daughter and two servant-maids > > Achdashenaig (Mull) > > Angus McKenzie tenant age 34 > John his son 12 > Duncan his son 5 > Archibald his son 3 > Hugh his son 1 > His wife > > Ian > > ---------------------------------------------- > This mail sent through http://www.ukonline.net > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.5/485 - Release Date: 19/10/2006 > >

    10/23/2006 04:18:51
    1. Re: [ARGYLL] Middle Names and the minister
    2. Janet
    3. Very glad I raised my query because of the interest it has generated. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "JEAN REYNOLDS" >I think you may have solved one of my mysteries - why my aunt who was the > second youngest of my grandparents eleven children had as her middle name, > the name of the minister's wife (his surname was the same as my > grandmother's as he was a relative so his wouldn't have been significant. > > Jean from Hampshire England

    10/22/2006 02:05:36
    1. [ARGYLL] Middle Names and the minister
    2. JEAN REYNOLDS
    3. I think you may have solved one of my mysteries - why my aunt who was the second youngest of my grandparents eleven children had as her middle name, the name of the minister's wife (his surname was the same as my grandmother's as he was a relative so his wouldn't have been significant. Jean from Hampshire England ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 6:01 AM Subject: SCT-ARGYLL Digest, Vol 1, Issue 43 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Parish registers (Mary Paton) > 2. Re: Use of middle family name (Sarah Galbraith) > 3. Re: Use of middle family name (BT) > 4. Re: Use of middle family name (Ron & Mary Harris) > 5. Re: Morvern birth & Muckairn baptism (Les Horn) > 6. CURRIE / MACKAY / KENNEDY ([email protected]) > 7. CRAWFORD Family in Kilmun, Blairmore and Strone (Kim Rossleigh) > 8. Re: Surnames as middle names (Brian Maye) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 13:51:07 +0800 > From: Mary Paton <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Parish registers > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > Hello List, > > Morag asked the question below a while back and has had no replies. I > am interested in the same question so I wonder if there is an answer > out there? Post-1855 PRs could still be very interesting. > > Many thanks, > Mary in Oz > >>I've done much family research in England and used the parish >>registers way past the date of civil registration in England of 1837 >>(infact into the 1930's). Do parish registers in Scotland continue >>after civil registration in 1855? and if so can they be viewed? >>(and where). Also burial records are sparse for the parishes I am >>interested in in Argyll, would these have been recorded after >>1855? and if so are they held anywhere. I know that scotlandspeople >>provide civil death's after this date. But often parish registers >>can reveal other things. Although it is true in England that after >>1813 they become somewhat more formal. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 11:06:56 +0100 > From: "Sarah Galbraith" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Use of middle family name > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Re middle names in general, rather than ones that appear later in life... > > In some parts of Argyll, particularly Kintyre, there was a custom related > to > middle names which might have been designed to confuse family historians. > > The FIRST child baptised by a minister, after he took up his post in a new > parish, would be given the minister's name as his or her middle names. > This > can sometimes lead to a child of Argyll parents having up to three extra > middle names - none of which might have any family significance at all. > > I've come across an example of this while researching my own family, but > because the child in question was not related to me, I did not note the > names - sorry. > > I do not think that this custom was very long-lived, but my mother > remembers > a Carradale man born in the early 1900s who was given the non-local middle > names of Somerville McLeod - the name of the minister who baptised him. > She > described it as "the done thing" at one time. > > Best regards > > Sarah > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 13:02:50 +0100 > From: "BT" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Use of middle family name > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Sarah > > Yes I agree entirely with what you say, and it's a very good point , as I > also know people who were given - not only a middle name but on some > occasions first names after the midwife , nurse, or GP, who was in > attendance at the birth. > > Regards > Stewart > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sarah Galbraith" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 11:06 AM > Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Use of middle family name > > >> Re middle names in general, rather than ones that appear later in life... >> >> In some parts of Argyll, particularly Kintyre, there was a custom related > to >> middle names which might have been designed to confuse family historians. >> >> The FIRST child baptised by a minister, after he took up his post in a >> new >> parish, would be given the minister's name as his or her middle names. > This >> can sometimes lead to a child of Argyll parents having up to three extra >> middle names - none of which might have any family significance at all. >> >> I've come across an example of this while researching my own family, but >> because the child in question was not related to me, I did not note the >> names - sorry. >> >> I do not think that this custom was very long-lived, but my mother > remembers >> a Carradale man born in the early 1900s who was given the non-local >> middle >> names of Somerville McLeod - the name of the minister who baptised him. > She >> described it as "the done thing" at one time. >> >> Best regards >> >> Sarah >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.3/474 - Release Date: 13/10/06 >> >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 09:57:02 -0400 > From: "Ron & Mary Harris" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Use of middle family name > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi again, > > I think we have discussed this fact before (or was it on another list?), > but > children were often given middle names that came from the father's > employer > too. > > My great great great grandfather, Hugh MCGREGOR (1802 - 1874) came from > Balquhidder, Perth in the mid 1830s to work as overseer at 2 CAMPBELL > owned > farms, Inverneill & Taynish. (It is possible that the CAMPBELLs were some > relative to Hugh, but no proof of that yet.) His son, my great great > grandfather, was christened Dugald Campbell MCGREGOR in 1849. Another son > was called Joshua Bowden MCGREGOR. I have heard that a Mrs. CAMPBELL was a > BOWDEN by birth. A sister was called Ann Banner MCGREGOR but I have found > no > origins for the BANNER name yet. > > Mary > in Canada > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 21:44:01 +0100 > From: "Les Horn" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Morvern birth & Muckairn baptism > To: "Argyll Rootsweb" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi List > > I found the following, which may be of use to someone, whilst looking at > the Muckairn OPR : > > 1832 Born in the Parish of Morvern Alexander son > Oct 20th to Donald MacIntyre, Airdeny, and Janet > . MacFie his spouse. Baptised 6 Jany 1839. > > Regards > Les > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:32:12 EDT > From: [email protected] > Subject: [ARGYLL] CURRIE / MACKAY / KENNEDY > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > > Hi Win > > I contacted you direct about 2 weeks ago but my email got lost in your > filtering system. I attach my original post (in normal type) with some > additions > (in italics). > > <I hope it's OK to contact you direct. I came across some messages on > the > Argyll email list from March 2005 concerning Christina and Murdoch > CURRIE. > > I am not related to the CURRIEs but Christina CURRIE (MS KENNEDY) was > the > sister of my gg grandfather and Murdoch CURRIE was the informant to the > death > of my gg grandfather. > > Therefore my interest in Murdoch C is only peripheral. However I was > interested enough to track Murdoch's parents - John Currie and Janet > Mackay. I > note from searching IGI that John CURRIE and Janet MACKAY had 4 children > born in > Morven - Peggy, Anne, Cirsty and Janet. Where was Murdoch born? I did > find > a Murdoch Currie born in Torosay to corretly named parents but I don't > know > if this is your Murdoch? Is it?> > > You posted recently that Murdoch and Hector were born in Torosay with 6 > additional children born in Morven. Can there be any doubt that the > Murdoch > CURRIE who married Christina KENNEDY is your Murdoch C from Torosay? I > am > descended from her parents - Neil KENNEDY and Flora M/S MacKAY. > > <In your message to the Argyll list 18 months ago you mentioned that you > had > no info on Murdoch CURRIE's descendants. I assume you have info now but, > just in case, I have found - again through searching the Morven records > of IGI > - 4 children born to Murdoch and Christina: > > Neil CURRIE: b 10 Sep 1830 Morven to Murdoch Currie and Cirsty Kennedy > John CURRIE b 7 Aug 1834 Morven > Archibald CURRIE b 23 Dec 1834 Morven > Flory CURRIE B 11 July 1839 Morven > > Again I hope it's OK to contact you direct, the info is of some interest > and > that you have info on Murdoch's birthplace. > > If I can be of any more help please contact me.> > > If you have any info you can forward re the birth of Murdoch CURRIE and > his > marriage to Christina KENNEDY I'd be very happy. I have info re death > of > both and re Murdoch's second marriage. > > Again thanks for your help and if I can do anything for you please let me > know. > > John S > > John S > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 08:32:50 +1000 > From: "Kim Rossleigh" <[email protected]> > Subject: [ARGYLL] CRAWFORD Family in Kilmun, Blairmore and Strone > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > Hi List Members > > This is my first posting. I am trying to find any members with connections > to ROBERT CRAFORD / CRAWFORD who christened in 1737 in Dunoon. He married > AGNES / ANN TURNER / TURNOR BORN 1741, daughter of JOHN TURNER in 1759 in > DUNOON AND KILMUN. > > Their children were JANET 1761, ISOBEL 1765, ANDREW 1767, DONALD 1769, > ALEXANDER 1770 (who I descend from), PATRICK 1774 and MARY 1777. > > Also whenever I look up information on the Mormon internet site it gives > place of birth, marriage etc as "Dunoon and KIlmun". Was this a parish > name? > It sounds like 2 places! Sorry for my ignorance of this! > > Thanking you > > Regards > > Kim in Sydney Australia > > _________________________________________________________________ > House hunt online now! > http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Erealestate%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Frsearch%3Fa%3Dbhp%26t%3Dres%26cu%3DMSN&_t=758874163&_r=HM_EndText_Oct06&_m=EXT > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 10:10:43 +1000 > From: Brian Maye <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Surnames as middle names > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected][192.168.0.2]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > > It seems that apart from tradition, the use of the name of a > grandparent or ggparent was a distinguishing tool where there were so > many people with the same forenames and surnames. Much the same goes > for the terms 'mor' for big which was not just descriptive but > distinguishing a certain person from another. > > This can sometimes create difficulties in AUS where often a person > called 'Tiny' or 'Lofty' is the very opposite. > > Anne Maye > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the SCT-ARGYLL list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the SCT-ARGYLL mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of SCT-ARGYLL Digest, Vol 1, Issue 43 > ***************************************** >

    10/22/2006 01:49:53
    1. Re: [ARGYLL] CURRIE / MACKAY / KENNEDY
    2. a.stevenson
    3. Hi Win, my Samuel (Haugh) Biers b. Abt 1844 Kirk Andrews, Borgue, Kirkcudbright. m. Hannah Currie June 1869 Mainshill. Hannah Currie b. 15 Dec 1835 Mauchline Ayr, daughter of William Currie b. Abt 1803 Auchiltree, Ayr. Mother Elisabeth Merry/ie July 1807 Mauchline Ayr. Her parents were John Merry/ie b. May 1790 Mauchline, Ayr and mothe Hannah Gillespie. Sandy (Australia) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Win MacKenzie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] CURRIE / MACKAY / KENNEDY > Hello again, > > [email protected] wrote: > >> Hi Win > > >I came across some messages on the >> Argyll email list from March 2005 concerning Christina and Murdoch >> CURRIE. >> >> I am not related to the CURRIEs but Christina CURRIE (MS KENNEDY) was >> the >> sister of my gg grandfather and Murdoch CURRIE was the informant to the >> death >> of my gg grandfather. >> >> Therefore my interest in Murdoch C is only peripheral. However I was >> interested enough to track Murdoch's parents - John Currie and Janet >> Mackay. I >> note from searching IGI that John CURRIE and Janet MACKAY had 4 children >> born in >> Morven - Peggy, Anne, Cirsty and Janet. Where was Murdoch born? I did >> find >> a Murdoch Currie born in Torosay to corretly named parents but I don't >> know >> if this is your Murdoch? Is it? > > I believe it is the same Murdoch. > >> You posted recently that Murdoch and Hector were born in Torosay with 6 >> additional children born in Morven. Can there be any doubt that the >> Murdoch >> CURRIE who married Christina KENNEDY is your Murdoch C from Torosay? I >> am >> descended from her parents - Neil KENNEDY and Flora M/S MacKAY. > > Because of the time frames we are researching there can always be > doubts. Murdoch, like his father John was born Torosay. I haven't found > another Murdoch Currie with the same parents. On all the censuses that > I have found him 1851, 1861, 1881 he was born Torosay, lived in Morvern. > I did not find him or his father on the 1841 census, although > they were both still living. Nor have I found Murdoch on the 1871 > census. I have assumed that he was away at sea, or just missed. > > Do you have some reason to doubt that the Murdoch Currie who married > Cirsty/Christina Kennedy is the same Murdoch who was the brother of my > great-great grandmother Janet Currie ? It would have been nice if the > second marriage record had showed WHO Murdoch had been married to before. > >> <In your message to the Argyll list 18 months ago you mentioned that you >> had >> no info on Murdoch CURRIE's descendants. I assume you have info now >> but, >> just in case, I have found - again through searching the Morven records >> of IGI >> - 4 children born to Murdoch and Christina: >> >> Neil CURRIE: b 10 Sep 1830 Morven to Murdoch Currie and Cirsty Kennedy >> John CURRIE b 7 Aug 1834 Morven >> Archibald CURRIE b 23 Dec 1834 Morven >> Flory CURRIE B 11 July 1839 Morven > > There were more children (taken from census info) > Jessie b 1842 (9 in 1851) > Mary b 1846 (5 in 1851) > Donald b 1849 (3 in 1851) > Ketty b 1854 (7 in 1861) > > Also daughter Christian CURRIE who married James MERRY Torosay 1855. > > I THINK that this Christina or Christian was with her Grandmother Janet > MacKAY CURRIE for the 1841 census, Knock. She was listed as being 8 > years old. In 1841 the rest of Murdoch and Christina KENNEDY's family > were in Lochaline, which I believe is close to Knock. > > Other than Christina I have not gone any further in tracing the children > of Murdoch and Christina, although I have been looking for them. I did > find a reference once that Flory had gone to Australia, but couldn't > find that now. > >> If you have any info you can forward re the birth of Murdoch CURRIE and >> his >> marriage to Christina KENNEDY I'd be very happy. I have info re death >> of >> both and re Murdoch's second marriage. > > I did take a copy of Murdoch's birth record off the Torosay film, but I > cannot find it. I'm sure it was just a one-liner as per the usual OPR > entry of that time frame. > > There is not a record of Murdoch CURRIE and Christina KENNEDY's marriage > on the OPR for Morvern. (LDS film 102383) > Children listed on this film were Neil, John, Archibald and Flory just > as listed in the IGI. Neil and Archibald were born Knock and either > John's place of birth was not listed or I did not write it down. Flory > was born Lochaline. The other children are not listed. > > If you can add anything further to this please let me know. > > Regards, > Win MacKenzie > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    10/22/2006 11:00:33
    1. [ARGYLL] Fw: Postings without a Subject
    2. Les Horn
    3. Hi Listers Could I make a plea to you to ensure that you put a Subject to your Postings; as most Spam filters will cull out e-mails where the Subject is left blank. It also makes problems for the List to file your e-mail without a Subject. Remember that postings are linked by Subject in the List Archive. Thanks Les

    10/22/2006 06:31:31
    1. Re: [ARGYLL] Surnames as middle names
    2. Brian Maye
    3. It seems that apart from tradition, the use of the name of a grandparent or ggparent was a distinguishing tool where there were so many people with the same forenames and surnames. Much the same goes for the terms 'mor' for big which was not just descriptive but distinguishing a certain person from another. This can sometimes create difficulties in AUS where often a person called 'Tiny' or 'Lofty' is the very opposite. Anne Maye

    10/22/2006 04:10:43
    1. [ARGYLL] CRAWFORD Family in Kilmun, Blairmore and Strone
    2. Kim Rossleigh
    3. Hi List Members This is my first posting. I am trying to find any members with connections to ROBERT CRAFORD / CRAWFORD who christened in 1737 in Dunoon. He married AGNES / ANN TURNER / TURNOR BORN 1741, daughter of JOHN TURNER in 1759 in DUNOON AND KILMUN. Their children were JANET 1761, ISOBEL 1765, ANDREW 1767, DONALD 1769, ALEXANDER 1770 (who I descend from), PATRICK 1774 and MARY 1777. Also whenever I look up information on the Mormon internet site it gives place of birth, marriage etc as "Dunoon and KIlmun". Was this a parish name? It sounds like 2 places! Sorry for my ignorance of this! Thanking you Regards Kim in Sydney Australia _________________________________________________________________ House hunt online now! http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Erealestate%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Frsearch%3Fa%3Dbhp%26t%3Dres%26cu%3DMSN&_t=758874163&_r=HM_EndText_Oct06&_m=EXT

    10/22/2006 02:32:50
    1. Re: [ARGYLL] CURRIE / MACKAY / KENNEDY
    2. Hi Win Thanks for your reply. Win said: <Do you have some reason to doubt that the Murdoch Currie who married Cirsty/Christina Kennedy is the same Murdoch who was the brother of my great-great grandmother Janet Currie ? > No, I have no reason to doubt. The info I had strongly suggested they were the same Murdoch C but I just didn't have anything to confirm that they were the same person. Kindest regards John S

    10/21/2006 11:28:34