I think you're all basically right. My American Heritage Dictionary says: "Having the same parents, or having the same grandparents on one side: cousin-german. Lat. germanus/germen, off-shoot." Kathleen VH On Nov 27, 2006, at 1:03 PM, Sheila Lafleur wrote: > Thanks kindly for the replys > > It is difficult enough trying to follow between natural children > and lawful > children who belongs to who :-) > > Not to mention the use of the same first names over and over . > > brothers german = full brothers > > This information will also definately help > > Cheers > > Sheila > >

Thanks Jim. They seem incredibly unusual names to start with in the first place. They were given as the maiden name of the wife of John McNEIL on the IGI site. I have done google searches on all of the variations, and not one hit!! A look at the original register might be enlightening...I think I may have to order the film!! Regards Lesley Melbourne, Australia

Ed Thompson wrote: > I wonder if anyone on the list has access to Post Office Directories > or > Electoral Registers for Seil (around 1942) and Oban (around 1945) -- > supposing they were published during the war, that is. If so, I am > looking > for help in clarifying or expanding on my very fragmentary memories: They are not in Oban Library unfortunately The place to ask is at the Lochgilphead archives http://www.benderloch.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=820 will give you all the contact details > > > At one period (possibly winter 1942) I was at a house or farm which I > remember vaguely as Easdale or Balvicar. The owner was perhaps a > widow, and > I think she had a son called Alex. Their surname may have been Low, > but I > may be muddled. I went briefly to a school, possibly at Clachan. > > > In Summer 1945 I was back in Argyll again, this time I think at > Ganavan > House. There was a retired Brigadier-General there who had Gurkha > kukris. > The Japanese surrender was announced at this time, and I understood > the atom > bomb was "about the size of a cricket ball." > > > It seems a bit odd to be part of one's own family history, but (a) I > was > very young, and (b) everyone else is dead. Any help would be most > welcome. It is experiences like this that I am encouraging in our Ardchattan parish project -- everyones memories of the time they spent here is evocative of the life here I hope you find the answer I will be seeing someone who may have an idea about the Ganavan house part this week - I will ask. I am not sure exactly what her connection is yet. regards Jill Bowis www.benderloch.org.uk/forum - Ardchattan history, geology, ecology, genealogy, weather, webcam, local forum www.kintaline.co.uk - where we are, what we do: Kintaline Plant and Poultry Centre

Not so common nowadays but one alternative might be McIlwham. J McPherson ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 6:01 AM Subject: SCT-ARGYLL Digest, Vol 1, Issue 59 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Name Change Query McILOHOIM - McILAHOIMBIE - McIHERVIE To > LAMONT ? (david and lesley) > 2. Re: Name Change Query McILOHOIM - McILAHOIMBIE - McIHERVIE > ToLAMONT ? (a.stevenson) > 3. Re: Name Change Query McILOHOIM - McILAHOIMBIE - McIHERVIE > ToLAMONT ? (roderick) > 4. Re: Name Change Query McILOHOIM - McILAHOIMBIE - > McIHERVIEToLAMONT ? (david and lesley) > 5. Re: Name Change Query McILOHOIM - McILAHOIMBIE - > McIHERVIEToLAMONT ? (david and lesley) > 6. Re: Name Change Query McILOHOIM - McILAHOIMBIE > -McIHERVIEToLAMONT ? (a.stevenson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 21:28:06 +1100 > From: "david and lesley" <[email protected]> > Subject: [ARGYLL] Name Change Query McILOHOIM - McILAHOIMBIE - > McIHERVIE To LAMONT ? > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I am hoping someone with greater experience in the intricacies of Scottish > name changes/anglicising etc, could advise the likelihood of any of the > surnames McILOHOIM, McILAHOIMBIE, McHERVIE being an earlier version of > the > surname LAMONT. > I have just discovered that the parents of Sarah McNEIL were John McNeil > and > Flora LAMONT of North Knapdale. Whilst I have found one child of the > marriage on IGI (More McNeil in 1793), a John McNeil and Flora > McIlohoim/McIlahoimbie/McHervie were having children in the parish from > 1784. Is it possible it is the same couple, or am I way off base here?? > > Also, on the same theme..... is there another name interchanged with the > given names FLORA and MORE?? > > Thanks for any suggestions!! > > Regards > > Lesley > Melbourne, Australia > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 22:00:54 +1100 > From: "a.stevenson" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Name Change Query McILOHOIM - McILAHOIMBIE - > McIHERVIE ToLAMONT ? > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I have Janet McNEILL m. Allan McNABB in 1855 in the Parish of Abbey > Landward, County of Renfrew. Janet's parents were Alexander McNEILL & > Helen > HURT but I don't know where they came from only that Janet was born in May > 1829 in Eaglesham. Sandy (Wagga x 2) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "david and lesley" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:28 PM > Subject: [ARGYLL] Name Change Query McILOHOIM - McILAHOIMBIE - McIHERVIE > ToLAMONT ? > > >>I am hoping someone with greater experience in the intricacies of Scottish >> name changes/anglicising etc, could advise the likelihood of any of the >> surnames McILOHOIM, McILAHOIMBIE, McHERVIE being an earlier version of >> the >> surname LAMONT. >> I have just discovered that the parents of Sarah McNEIL were John McNeil >> and >> Flora LAMONT of North Knapdale. Whilst I have found one child of the >> marriage on IGI (More McNeil in 1793), a John McNeil and Flora >> McIlohoim/McIlahoimbie/McHervie were having children in the parish from >> 1784. Is it possible it is the same couple, or am I way off base here?? >> >> Also, on the same theme..... is there another name interchanged with the >> given names FLORA and MORE?? >> >> Thanks for any suggestions!! >> >> Regards >> >> Lesley >> Melbourne, Australia >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 22:07:01 +1100 > From: "roderick" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Name Change Query McILOHOIM - McILAHOIMBIE - > McIHERVIE ToLAMONT ? > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Lesley > My Gaelic isn't sufficiently advanced to make sense of that surname. But > re > the given names, Flory is an alternative to Flora, and More is a > mispelling > of Moire pronounced "moyra" (very loosely!) being the gaelic for Mary. > Hope this helps > Rod > Trentham Australia > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "david and lesley" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:28 PM > Subject: [ARGYLL] Name Change Query McILOHOIM - McILAHOIMBIE - McIHERVIE > ToLAMONT ? > > >>I am hoping someone with greater experience in the intricacies of Scottish >> name changes/anglicising etc, could advise the likelihood of any of the >> surnames McILOHOIM, McILAHOIMBIE, McHERVIE being an earlier version of >> the >> surname LAMONT. >> I have just discovered that the parents of Sarah McNEIL were John McNeil >> and >> Flora LAMONT of North Knapdale. Whilst I have found one child of the >> marriage on IGI (More McNeil in 1793), a John McNeil and Flora >> McIlohoim/McIlahoimbie/McHervie were having children in the parish from >> 1784. Is it possible it is the same couple, or am I way off base here?? >> >> Also, on the same theme..... is there another name interchanged with the >> given names FLORA and MORE?? >> >> Thanks for any suggestions!! >> >> Regards >> >> Lesley >> Melbourne, Australia >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 09:45:33 +1100 > From: "david and lesley" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Name Change Query McILOHOIM - McILAHOIMBIE - > McIHERVIEToLAMONT ? > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Rod, > > Thanks for your response. > > I will note both the options of Flory and Mary for future reference! > > I was also doing a bit of 'surfing' when I came across a site which lists > the angicised alternatives to Gaelic first names. > They had a listing for MOR as being a female name [ Gaelic for 'Great'] > which was most commonly anglicised to Sarah. As this was in fact the name > of my gggrandmother, I think I may have (happily) stumbled on to her > actual > baptismal record!! > > Regards > > Lesley > Melbourne, Australia > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 10:04:44 +1100 > From: "david and lesley" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Name Change Query McILOHOIM - McILAHOIMBIE - > McIHERVIEToLAMONT ? > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Sandy, > > the couple I originally queried about certainly had a son named Alexander > bap 7 April 1787 in North Knapdale parish Argyll. In fact my Sarah named > one > of her sons Alexander in 1826. HOWEVER, Alexander is a fairly common name, > and I'm sure there would be hundreds of Alexander McNeills in the > appropriate time frame all over Scotland. > If Alexander and Helen were still alive at the time of Janet's wedding, > there is an extremely good chance that their deaths will be included in > the > Statutory Records (ie:Death certificates issued), which are available > online > with scotlandspeople. This is a fantastic site, and the information > included > on them is much better than the English ones. If your Alexander is on > there, > it will include his both his parents names. This site also has the > Scottish > census's so if you can find Alexander on any of these (and Janet certainly > would be on the 1851 census) it will give you a good indication of where > he > was born. > > Hope this is of some help > > Regards > > Lesley > Melbourne, Australia > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 10:26:39 +1100 > From: "a.stevenson" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Name Change Query McILOHOIM - McILAHOIMBIE > -McIHERVIEToLAMONT ? > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Thank you for replying, I'll try Scotland's People as that's where I found > their names on Janet's wedding certificate. Sandy (Wagga x 2) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "david and lesley" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 10:04 AM > Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Name Change Query McILOHOIM - > McILAHOIMBIE -McIHERVIEToLAMONT ? > > >> Hi Sandy, >> >> the couple I originally queried about certainly had a son named Alexander >> bap 7 April 1787 in North Knapdale parish Argyll. In fact my Sarah named >> one >> of her sons Alexander in 1826. HOWEVER, Alexander is a fairly common >> name, >> and I'm sure there would be hundreds of Alexander McNeills in the >> appropriate time frame all over Scotland. >> If Alexander and Helen were still alive at the time of Janet's wedding, >> there is an extremely good chance that their deaths will be included in >> the >> Statutory Records (ie:Death certificates issued), which are available >> online >> with scotlandspeople. This is a fantastic site, and the information >> included >> on them is much better than the English ones. If your Alexander is on >> there, >> it will include his both his parents names. This site also has the >> Scottish >> census's so if you can find Alexander on any of these (and Janet >> certainly >> would be on the 1851 census) it will give you a good indication of where >> he >> was born. >> >> Hope this is of some help >> >> Regards >> >> Lesley >> Melbourne, Australia >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the SCT-ARGYLL list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the SCT-ARGYLL mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of SCT-ARGYLL Digest, Vol 1, Issue 59 > ***************************************** > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.16/552 - Release Date: > 26/11/2006 11:30 > >

I wonder if anyone on the list has access to Post Office Directories or Electoral Registers for Seil (around 1942) and Oban (around 1945) -- supposing they were published during the war, that is. If so, I am looking for help in clarifying or expanding on my very fragmentary memories: At one period (possibly winter 1942) I was at a house or farm which I remember vaguely as Easdale or Balvicar. The owner was perhaps a widow, and I think she had a son called Alex. Their surname may have been Low, but I may be muddled. I went briefly to a school, possibly at Clachan. In Summer 1945 I was back in Argyll again, this time I think at Ganavan House. There was a retired Brigadier-General there who had Gurkha kukris. The Japanese surrender was announced at this time, and I understood the atom bomb was "about the size of a cricket ball." It seems a bit odd to be part of one's own family history, but (a) I was very young, and (b) everyone else is dead. Any help would be most welcome. Ed Edward H. Thompson (email: [email protected]) (web: http://homepages.tesco.net/~eandcthomp/aaa.htm)

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Please hang on I have been waiting for ages to find any of my YOUNG family from Loch Nell and suddenly I have found one, or rather she found me and another large jigsaw piece is in place. Chris in Melbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen Van Heuit" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Name Change Query Dear David and Lesley et al.: Join the crowd. Kathleen VH, looking for the Grahams of Kirn/Dunoon, Argyll On Nov 25, 2006, at 5:36 PM, david and lesley wrote: > I am beginning to think that my family don't WANT to be found!!! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Kathleen, It can be done tho'....on my name line, after 25 years, I finally found our missing link through a younger brothers second marrige. On this one he put the REAL place he was from. SUCCESS......the bad news...the family didn't come there originally. so I have one generation further back, and the same brick wall...hmmmmmmm<lol> Lesley

Thanks Paul. I have bookmarked the sites, as I think they will be of ongoing use!! Regards Lesley Melbourne, Australia

Elinor, thank you, it has been a time since I visited the FreeCen site. What I meant previously is that, perhaps only on the handwritten originals of the Census, a dwelling's location or house name is occasionally given. I was hoping for something similar so that the particular location of the dwelling could be identified. Perhaps if one dwelling is identifiable, perhaps many pages prior to or subsequent to the dwelling in question, the more exact location could be deduced. I note from FreeCen that John Rankin's family is on Page 15 and Neil Rankin's is on Page 17 so, unless they all lived in a very large dwelling, they were fairly near neighbours but not at the same address. Is that correct? Page 1 of this Folio 11 is a large listing of names from all over, but those from the Duror Qs district are in the "Balachulish District". From Page 2 they are in "Balachulish". Could someone speculate that these may have been dwellings provided by the Ballachulish quarry company for the quarrymen? And, as I queried earlier, I wonder if the handwritten originals may give clues to a more precise location of the dwelling in Ballachulish. Bill. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elinor Hickey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 7:31 AM Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Rankin marriage to Downie 1835 > Hi Bill, > > I am not sure what you mean but if you go to > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl and put your family information > in, on the 1841 census, you can just search until you find what you are > looking for. Neil Rankin is on Folio 11 Page 17 at Ballachulish. I would > think Cathrin might be sister John and Neil. Unfortunately, the 1841 > census > did not give relationships. > > Best wishes, > Elinor. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks Rod, my family do not appear to have strictly followed the naming pattern. Sarah and Archibald had 8 children - 7 sons and 1 daughter. We do know that the first child was named John. This was the name of the maternal grandfather. (As we do not know the paternal grandfather's name, it is possible that he was also named John, which would throw the thing out!!) But son #3 was Malcom, #4 was Alexander, # 5 Hugh, # 6 Archibald, after the father. I am beginning to think that my family don't WANT to be found!!! Regards Lesley

Hi Bill, The only way you can see for yourself, the written census, is to order it from the LDS or go to scotlandspeople and paying for each page, which could be quite expensive. If ordered from LDS you pay for the whole census and are able to see if the information you are after, is there. Best wishes, Elinor.

Thank you, Elinor. That is them. Neil was John's older brother. May I just further ask if it is possible to more precisely identify where that address was: Enumeration Dist. 5, Civil Parish Duror Qs, Folio 11 Page 15, Address: Ballachulish. From the sequence of recordings by the enumerator, can the address be placed relative to others? Now I only have to wonder who is Cathrin, b +/- 1820. Appreciatively yours Bill. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elinor Hickey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 11:44 PM Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Rankin marriage to Downie 1835 > Hi, > > Here is a 1841 census for John Rankin, from the FreeCEN > > Place Lismore & Appin, Argyllshire, Enumeration Dist. 5, Civil Parish > Duror > Qs, Folio 11 Page 15, Address: Ballachulish > > Rankin John M 30 Quarrier Born Argyllshire > Rankin Chirsty F 25 Born Argyllshire > Rankin Cathrin F 20 Born Argyllshire > Rankin Chirsty F 5 Born Argyllshire > > Also at the same Address > > Rankin Neil M 30 Quarrier Born Argyllshire > Rankin Mary F 25 Born Argyllshire > Rankin Rachael F 10 Born Argyllshire > Rankin Donald M 5 Born Argyllshire > Rankin Ann F 5 Born Argyllshire > Rankin Mary F 1 Born Argyllshire > > The ages on the 1841 census are up or down to the nearest 0 or 5. except > for > children. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Bill A search of the online 1841 census doesn't find John Rankin & Christian Downie. Have no suggestions why. Rod Victoria, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Websters" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 9:22 PM Subject: [ARGYLL] Rankin marriage to Downie 1835 > Hello all > > Could some kind souls please attempt to verify from original parish > records > an IGI entry, Batch 115252, hopefully with more details: > > JOHN RANKIN marriage to CHRISTIAN DOWNIE > > Lismore & Appin Parish, 06 DEC 1835. > > > It is thought this couple had a daughter Christian/Christina, whose age is > given as 6 on her arrival with her parents in Sydney aboard the "HERALD" > in > Janmuary 1844. Her parents' ages at the same time were given as 32 and > 30. > > > Can this couple and child be located in the 1841 Census? I re4alise John > and Christian were very common names and Rankin was common especially in > the > Glencoe region. > > > John Rankin is thought to have been born 12 JUN 1814, baptised 18 JUN > 1814, > second child of Donald Rankin and Ann McDougall of Glenn Leac na Muidhe, > Glencoe. > > > Thanks in anticipation, > > Bill. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Could SKS with access to the origianal 1841 Census, reference 1841 Census Lismore & Appin Parish 525 - Duror ED 5 p.17 - Ballachulish ARL/OPR please check the following entry: Neil RANKIN 30 b ARL - b 21/12/1812 Kinlochmore ARL Mary RANKIN 25 b ARL - c 5/11/1814 Lismore & Appin ARL Rachel RANKIN 10 b ARL - b-c 1/5/1833 Lismore & Appin ARL Ann RANKIN 5 b ARL - b 16/12/1837 Lismore & Appin ARL Donald RANKIN 5 b ARL - b 16/12/1837 Lismore & Appin ARL Mary RANKIN 1 b ARL to see if the birth year for Neil could possibly have been 1810, and not 1812. Many thanks Bill.

Hello all Could some kind souls please attempt to verify from original parish records an IGI entry, Batch 115252, hopefully with more details: JOHN RANKIN marriage to CHRISTIAN DOWNIE Lismore & Appin Parish, 06 DEC 1835. It is thought this couple had a daughter Christian/Christina, whose age is given as 6 on her arrival with her parents in Sydney aboard the "HERALD" in Janmuary 1844. Her parents' ages at the same time were given as 32 and 30. Can this couple and child be located in the 1841 Census? I re4alise John and Christian were very common names and Rankin was common especially in the Glencoe region. John Rankin is thought to have been born 12 JUN 1814, baptised 18 JUN 1814, second child of Donald Rankin and Ann McDougall of Glenn Leac na Muidhe, Glencoe. Thanks in anticipation, Bill.

Hi, While searching for other things, I came accross the website of a group researching the roots of the Argyll natives who first settled their region of North Carolina, USA. They seem to have gathered quite a bit of info. that would be useful to all researchers of Argyll natives (not just the ones who emigrated to NC). In particular, they have back issues of their newsletter for sale, containing articles about specific families, old maps, burial records, old letters etc. If you want to have a look ... http://www.theargyllcolonyplus.org/ You never know what you might find. Mary in Canada p.s. What I was originally looking for was burial records for Inverneill. Looking for my ggggrandparents Hugh MCGREGOR & Mary HOUSTON.

Dear David and Lesley et al.: Join the crowd. Kathleen VH, looking for the Grahams of Kirn/Dunoon, Argyll On Nov 25, 2006, at 5:36 PM, david and lesley wrote: > I am beginning to think that my family don't WANT to be found!!!

Hi Rod, I'm an Alexandra from the Wagga area. My g.grandfather was Alexander Boyd and my father was David Alexander Wilson, taking both grandfather's first names. Sandy (Wagga x 2) ----- Original Message ----- From: "roderick" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Name Change Query McILOHOIM -McILAHOIMBIE-McIHERVIEToLAMONT ? > Hi Sandy & Lesley > There seems to be an excess of Alexanders! Some info which might help > separate the sheep from the goats (so to speak) is the Highland naming > pattern. In my own case I have found Argyll McPhersons stuck fairly > closely. > 1st son named after paternal grandfather 1st dau after maternal > grandmother > 2nd son after maternal grandfather 2nd dau after > paternal grandmother > 3rd son after father 3rd > daughter > after mother > Additional childrn free choice. > As you can see, it can be possible (no gaurantee) to identify both sets of > grandparents, assuming there were at least 2 sons & daughters. Hope this > is > helpful > > Rod > Victoria, Australia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "a.stevenson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 10:26 AM > Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Name Change Query McILOHOIM - > McILAHOIMBIE-McIHERVIEToLAMONT ? > > >> Thank you for replying, I'll try Scotland's People as that's where I >> found >> their names on Janet's wedding certificate. Sandy (Wagga x 2) >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "david and lesley" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 10:04 AM >> Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Name Change Query McILOHOIM - >> McILAHOIMBIE -McIHERVIEToLAMONT ? >> >> >>> Hi Sandy, >>> >>> the couple I originally queried about certainly had a son named >>> Alexander >>> bap 7 April 1787 in North Knapdale parish Argyll. In fact my Sarah named >>> one >>> of her sons Alexander in 1826. HOWEVER, Alexander is a fairly common >>> name, >>> and I'm sure there would be hundreds of Alexander McNeills in the >>> appropriate time frame all over Scotland. >>> If Alexander and Helen were still alive at the time of Janet's wedding, >>> there is an extremely good chance that their deaths will be included in >>> the >>> Statutory Records (ie:Death certificates issued), which are available >>> online >>> with scotlandspeople. This is a fantastic site, and the information >>> included >>> on them is much better than the English ones. If your Alexander is on >>> there, >>> it will include his both his parents names. This site also has the >>> Scottish >>> census's so if you can find Alexander on any of these (and Janet >>> certainly >>> would be on the 1851 census) it will give you a good indication of where >>> he >>> was born. >>> >>> Hope this is of some help >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Lesley >>> Melbourne, Australia >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Sandy & Lesley There seems to be an excess of Alexanders! Some info which might help separate the sheep from the goats (so to speak) is the Highland naming pattern. In my own case I have found Argyll McPhersons stuck fairly closely. 1st son named after paternal grandfather 1st dau after maternal grandmother 2nd son after maternal grandfather 2nd dau after paternal grandmother 3rd son after father 3rd daughter after mother Additional childrn free choice. As you can see, it can be possible (no gaurantee) to identify both sets of grandparents, assuming there were at least 2 sons & daughters. Hope this is helpful Rod Victoria, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "a.stevenson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Name Change Query McILOHOIM - McILAHOIMBIE-McIHERVIEToLAMONT ? > Thank you for replying, I'll try Scotland's People as that's where I found > their names on Janet's wedding certificate. Sandy (Wagga x 2) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "david and lesley" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 10:04 AM > Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Name Change Query McILOHOIM - > McILAHOIMBIE -McIHERVIEToLAMONT ? > > >> Hi Sandy, >> >> the couple I originally queried about certainly had a son named Alexander >> bap 7 April 1787 in North Knapdale parish Argyll. In fact my Sarah named >> one >> of her sons Alexander in 1826. HOWEVER, Alexander is a fairly common >> name, >> and I'm sure there would be hundreds of Alexander McNeills in the >> appropriate time frame all over Scotland. >> If Alexander and Helen were still alive at the time of Janet's wedding, >> there is an extremely good chance that their deaths will be included in >> the >> Statutory Records (ie:Death certificates issued), which are available >> online >> with scotlandspeople. This is a fantastic site, and the information >> included >> on them is much better than the English ones. If your Alexander is on >> there, >> it will include his both his parents names. This site also has the >> Scottish >> census's so if you can find Alexander on any of these (and Janet >> certainly >> would be on the 1851 census) it will give you a good indication of where >> he >> was born. >> >> Hope this is of some help >> >> Regards >> >> Lesley >> Melbourne, Australia >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >