Hi List, Can someone advise me on the use of some descriptive Gaelic words attached to some of my ancestors? “Og” , “Oig” and “Oigh” meaning small or young “Mor “ and “Mhor” meaning large, old or great “Dg” meaning nothing that I can determine “Dhu” meaning dark or black I realise that these words may be used in sentences but my concern is when they are inserted between given names and surnames. What are the differences between spellings? Gender? When used in names, should they be capitalized? I have seen the letter “o” with either grave or acute accents and sometimes with none. Any help from the Gaelic speakers would be appreciated.

Should have mentioned the dates I was interested in were in records between 1822 and 1844. I was looking for Hugh Watson, his wife Jane McMillan Watson, and their children. They were identified in the recreated records which were compiled sometime in the 1800's. Betty

Not only is your information about missing records true, in 1990 with my own eyes I saw some of the duplicated records. I have done research in the Argyll area 5 times and have made some valuable local contacts in Campbeltown. My distant relative, Duncan Colville, now deceased, became a friend and mentor. His father was an "antiquarian" and a pack rat. He provided much information from original records to me. He didn't have records which I needed to cover a 12-year period of my family history where records had been destroyed by the out-of-wedlock minister. (In the original church records, such children are described as "born of fornification--" kind of a mean thing to inscribe in a church record. ) Some duplicate copies of the destroyed records do exist. Duncan paved the way for my husband and me to visit Ian MacDonald at his home in Clachan, Argyll, Scotland. I Mr. MacDonald had copies of records which were recreated from the results of research and transcription done by a Glen Barr schoolmaster named Robert McNiven. McNiven was able to reconstruct 333 pages of records from various other sources. For this great work, McNiven was paid 2 pounds, 10 shillings sterling, by the clerk session of Killean. I do not have the date the records were recreated, but it must have been some time in the 1800's. McNiven transcribed all the pages by hand, and the writing is similar to other records in the 1800's. His recreations were accurate according to our family Bible and other sources. There is no reason to doubt the additional information he provided, which we did not have--such as the name of the farm where the family lived. I did not have access to a copy machine and tried to copy by hand as much information as I could without intruding too long in the home of the MacDonalds. I cannot provide an exact address for Mr. MacDonald at this time. It is possible it is buried somewhere in all the pieces of paper I need to get in order in my genealogy material. However, Clachan is just a village. If he is still living there, mail might reach him. But, I promise you this: The story of the records being destroyed is TRUE. Betty

Hi Bill Webster, I was just up to putting this lot on computer and "googling" McTaggart and Appin just in case someone from cotland was reasearching this lot and there you were. Did Mary McGregor have parents? Ch. are Hugh/Ewan 1811 Renfrew mar. Rebecca Beaton (ended up in Glasgow but son John lived with Dorothy Beaton and aunt Margaret Beaton in Co. Invernes at least till 1861), Sarah/Marion 1812 Renfrew unmar 28 years 1841 census, Mary 1814 recorded as McIntaggart Appin, Rachel 1816 (well depends what you read but 20 to 24 years 1841 census and fits here mar. Wm Muir came to Victoria, Cath 1818 mar. McPherson, Alex mar. Martha Austin, Angus 15 to 19 1841 census, John 1825 came to Victoria with Rachel and William and mar. here., Nancy 14 1841 census became Ann and born in 1830 unmar. living with sister Cath and her family 1881 census and Margaret. Now unless I am missing one Margaret or Sarah mar. John McPhee? Regards, Irene., Melbourne, Aus.

Dear all, not wanting to unnecessarily prolong or widen this issue, the following reply to another list to which I subscribe gives a perspective that I have not previously seen. Perhaps our administrator would like to comment. We are not having the difficulties at this other list that we seem to be having here. Best wishes Bill. Marie It is not up to rootsweb how messages are replied to. This is a matter for the list owner. I am a list owner myself and have set things up such that replying to messages go to the list. Other list owners set things up such that replying to messages go only to the original sender. It is the list owners decision and not rootsweb. Victor [email protected] wrote: > RootsWeb when they changed software no longer automatically sends you a > copy > of your own posting, even though you are on the list. Makes it terribly > difficult for one to know if the post actually made it to the list. > > Copying yourself on your original message gives you an incoming message, > but > not from RootsWeb, so that won't test the system, either. If anyone > answers, > you'll know it was posted. > > Isn't that just dandy? What were they thinking? > > Marie > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Trish Michael > Date: 12/06/06 17:22:11 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] testing > > no emails coming through... > I posted one yesterday and it hasn't shown up yet > ttfn > Trish > Ex Hull lass on central coast of NSW, Oz > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I have other Argyll ancestry but I have lately been reinvestigating my Ayrshire roots and after many years have found the birthplace of my ancestors. Elizabeth Dempster, According to the 1851 census she was born in Inverary. I have to admit this was not what I was expecting! I had assumed she was from Ayrshire or thereabouts as the Dempster surname is so common there. She died in New Cumnock in 1858. I can find no baptism for her in Inverary (and alas her parents names where not recorded on her death cert), but she would have been born around 1771. I don't necessarily expect to find her family but i would be interested to know if there where any Dempsters about in this time period in the parish of Inverary (or nearby). If anyone knows of any Dempster's in this parish I would be grateful to hear about them. I don't suppose there are any estate records/renatals for this area? Much Thanks Morag

I am trying to find my Duncan Stewart's date of death....he was born in Kilmichael Glassary, c.1823 to Alexander Stewart and Janet McFarlan(e) He married Isabella Blair, c.1845, and they had 10 children. They seemed to move around a bit...in the 1881 census, I THINK I found Duncan with his son Duncan,c1860, as a ploughman in Paisley, where most of the family seemed to be. According to Marriage cert. of the other children he was dead between Sep.1891-Sep1895. Can anyone please suggest how I could find this relie. I have looked on Scotlands People and the usual places. Thank you, Betty S Best regards. John & Betty Sheather [email protected] 2006-12-09 Created with Foxmail 5.0 e-mail client. You can get it at http://www.GoodFreeSoftware.netfirms.com

Lynne Flora Cameron (1896 - 1941), a sister of your James Cameron, married a William McKillop in Campbeltown, and the couple had four children. William McKillop is a relative of mine. If you contact me off-list, I can share more recent family information. With best regards Sarah Galbraith -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of lynne weeks Sent: 08 December 2006 14:44 To: [email protected] Subject: [ARGYLL] Cameron - James born Low Ugadale Cambeltown 1887 Hello there - I am searching for any links to James Cameron born at Low Ugadale, Campbeltown in September 1887. Born to Donald McCallum Cameron and Catherine McConachie. On the 1901 census they are at Bolgam Street in Campbeltown. Any help, however small, with James or links to the rest of his family would be very welcome. Regards - Lynne _________________________________________________________________ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello there - I am searching for any links to James Cameron born at Low Ugadale, Campbeltown in September 1887. Born to Donald McCallum Cameron and Catherine McConachie. On the 1901 census they are at Bolgam Street in Campbeltown. Any help, however small, with James or links to the rest of his family would be very welcome. Regards - Lynne _________________________________________________________________ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters

Hi All Apart from having McCallum cousins who descended from the families mentioned by Gordon McCallum on the List last week , I have other McCallum cousins who descend from Neil McCallum and Jean McAlister who married in Campbeltown 9 March 1852 - I thought I'd put those names to List before I go to find their deaths at Scotspeople, does anyone have any idea who their parents would have been ? or could someone perhaps find those individuals on the 1851 census ?. Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions. Regards Stewart Campbell

Hi List I am getting about 50 separate emails now from this List when I usually only got 4 or 5. I much prefer the old system which was easier (for me) to understand. My Argyll interests: Rankin family of Appin and Laroche and Cameron family of Kilmallie and Ballachulish. Regards Veronica from West Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorna van der Lijn" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 7:11 AM Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Problems with Rootsweb >I have just received that same email, Les. There's wee gremlins >somewhere!! > You didn't send any email to me personally, much as I enjoy your > mails!! - > but see below!! I wonder who will receive this email?! > The original email I had, had no message, just the one telling me how to > unsubscribe. > Regards > Lorna > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Les Horn" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 11:37 AM > Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Problems with Rootsweb > > >> Hi Cathy >> >> Please tell me just what is going on !!!! >> >> Although I'm subscribed to the "L" List, and have been receiving each >> individual posting, I've just receive a "D" List e-mail [SCT-ARGYLL >> Digest, Vol 1, Issue 68]. Something is seriously wrong and I am now >> considering whether it wouldn't be safer 'unsubscribing' until things are >> sorted out. >> >> Many thanks >> Les >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My 4th great grandfather was Rev.Duncan McAllum,born 1751 died 1834.He was a gaelic highland preacher well thought of by Wesley who called him "The North Star".He became a Methodist Minister in 1775.His father also called Duncan McAllum was tutor and Baille for the Duke of Argyll.There is a mention of Duncan McAllum as a witness at Dunbarton 25/7/1701,in The Argyll Particular Register of Sasines 1676-1780.Rev. Duncan McAllum had a son,Dr.Daniel McAllum M.D who also became a Methodist Minister in 1817 preaching mainly in The Shetlands.He died in 1827.I have no birth or death places ,or obits for these people.My first documented date for Rev. Duncan McAllum is his marriage to Elizabeth Livingstone 14th January 1784 at Inverness.Hoping someone out there can help me with these names.Ian Duncan McAllum.N.Z.

Is there anyone researching McGregors from Jura who married into the Dunsmore family? I have information on the branch particularly Janet McGregor Dunsmore whose son James Dunsmore was my great-grandfather born in Lanarkshire in 1852. Any connection would be interesting to me. Thanks Kate Arnott -- chris-kate

Hi all I agree with Rosemary, this is all a storm in a teacup!! Please leave this list for genealogical postings. It IS boring having to process all the irrelevant messages. The world has NOT come to an end, let's get on with the rest of our lives. If you can't cope with the foibles of IT (and they are trillion in number) what are you doing owning a PC? Rod (IT ignorant) Victoria, Australia

Hi all, in the last two or so days a posting to the Argyll List included in the footing a list of Surname/County interests which included the above. I appear to have deleted this in error. Could that lister please contact me OFF LIST, as I too have this interest in my tree Thanks Lesley Melbourne, Australia

Hi Janet Thanks...although I am not unsubbing from the list...I simply tried to explain why everyone was receiving email messages with please unsubscribe and their email address at the bottom of their emails. I see now there has been a change to this signature and our email addresses no longer feature at the bottom of each email. Jeni ----- Original Message ----- From: Janet To: Jeni Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 8:12 AM Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] remove from list That's a pity. You don't say what your name interests are. I'm getting nowhere either but remain here, and in other groups just in case, though I understand the way you feel. I stay because I may be able to help someone. Maybe its time to post name interests again for the benefit of new members? Janet

Thanks for the explanation! We knew there was a simple answer. Best wishes to everyone for Christmas and the New Year! Chris in Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Catherine DiPietro" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 1:08 AM Subject: [ARGYLL] List Admin Posting about UnSubscribe Messages Greetings All, Your email address is inserted into an "unsubscribe" help message as a footnote to your email ONLY. No one else sees your version of the message. This is for your convenience only, it is not a request for you to leave the list. Your email address does not appear in the List Archives unless you posted the message yourself. Please direct any further comments or problems to me at [email protected] instead of to the whole list. Thank You, Cathy DiPietro [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe [email protected] from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I agree Janet, but lets leave it all till the New Year - and till the list settles down. Life is hectic enough at present. Also, my husband is about to come home after a month in hospital!! That will add to the December frenzy! Regards Lorna

I have just received that same email, Les. There's wee gremlins somewhere!! You didn't send any email to me personally, much as I enjoy your emails!! - but see below!! I wonder who will receive this email?! The original email I had, had no message, just the one telling me how to unsubscribe. Regards Lorna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Les Horn" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Problems with Rootsweb > Hi Cathy > > Please tell me just what is going on !!!! > > Although I'm subscribed to the "L" List, and have been receiving each > individual posting, I've just receive a "D" List e-mail [SCT-ARGYLL > Digest, Vol 1, Issue 68]. Something is seriously wrong and I am now > considering whether it wouldn't be safer 'unsubscribing' until things are > sorted out. > > Many thanks > Les > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I DO NOT GIVE a fig what or how or why people are or aren't subscribed to this list. For God's sake STOP sending these everlasting messages. I want to read about Argyll genealogy not ENDLESS rehashings of what people feel or do not feel or might feel or could feel about - SHOCK, HORROR!- their email addresses being revealed to a largely indifferent world. Get over it. Use an email addrss you are NOT worried about. Yours in total boredom, Rosemary Meechan (Who used to be interested in Argyll Family History before losing the will to live through having to read everlasting messages posted about........Is anybody starting to get an inkling about how BORING this all is?) Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com