Hi Jennie I am interested in McPhees from the Lochaber area. I am unsure from your email whether or not Margaret was a McPhee by birth or married John McPhee. If it is John McPhee, what do you know about his siblings and ancestors? While my known McPhees come from Lochaber, DNA testing suggests they belong with the group that were on Islay or Glen Urquhart. McPhee in Appin is likely to belong with the wanderers like mine. I dont think I have been in touch with you before. Cheers Sally [email protected] > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 11:38:25 +1100 > From: "Jennie Towan" <[email protected]> > Subject: [ARGYLL] McArthurs & McPhees Appin > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi > As a newcomer to the list, I have a BIG request. Is there some very, very > kind person who lives near Appin and who owns a digital camera ....... and > could visit t& take photos of he ruined church & McArthur/McPhee > headstones? > I am told the church is not far out of the centre of Appin, and it does > not > have a roof. My McArthur interests are: > > MCARTHUR Malcolm, farmer > SINCLAIR Christina (wife) > MCARTHUR John (son born abt1825 Lochgilphead) > MCPHEE Margaret (wife of John, born abt1837 Appin - or Port Appin) > MCPHEE John (Margaret's father, farmer) > LIVINGSTON Mary (Margaret's mother) > > I have not done much research yet, and would appreciate any pointers > (thanks > for posting the recent valuable info btw). Cheers all, Jennie > (Australia)>

Hi Les - thanks so much for your kind offer. Can you clarify 'Cargill/Fairweather (1968) Index there > isn't a headstone for any of her lot.' - 'her' meaning Margaret McPhee's family? Is the Index on the 'net? Would be so obliged to you for pics/more info. Thanks heaps! Cheers, Jennie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Les Horn" <[email protected]> To: "Argyll Rootsweb" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] McArthurs & McPhees Appin > Jennie asked > > > Is there some very, very kind person who lives near Appin and who owns a > > digital camera ....... and could visit t& take photos of he ruined church > > & McArthur/McPhee headstones? > > I'll call in next time I'm passing Kinlochlaigh Old Churchyard on my way to > Oban. However, according to the Cargill/Fairweather (1968) Index there > isn't a headstone for any of her lot. > > Regards > Les > ========================== > Lochaber and North Argyll Family History Group - http://tinyurl.com/y6te7n > ========================== > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.18/662 - Release Date: 31/01/2007 3:16 PM > >

Jill: I note what you say and I've had a look around the site and I cannot believe the progress you have made. Its a great resource and a credit to you. In case any one else is interest also, I have a LIVINGSTON line that I have not been able to trace. Its LIVINGSTON as a middle name CAMPBELL in Mull and have always wondered about its origins. If anyone has a similar interest, please step forward. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Bowis" <[email protected]> > > Les Horn should be about -- he should know someone !! > I would love to be able to but I REALLY need to get Ardchattan finished, > and start with the Benderloch one and the Dalvuie site - I got nothing done > last autumn and if it pours with rain all next week I will be scuppered > again. > We only get a few hours off a day for a week in Feb and a week in Oct so we > are very limited with "out and about" time > > The Appin Historical Society have been around a long time > They may well have information that can help you > > MCARTHUR Malcolm, farmer >> SINCLAIR Christina (wife) >> MCARTHUR John (son born abt1825 Lochgilphead) >> MCPHEE Margaret (wife of John, born abt1837 Appin - or Port Appin) >> MCPHEE John (Margaret's father, farmer) >> LIVINGSTON Mary (Margaret's mother)

The final group of names from the MacNeill of Carskey book are transcribed below. For those who missed message 1 with the book details, here they are: MacNeill of Carskey - His Estate Journal, 1703 - 1743 Frank Forbes MacKay Publ M McDonald, Edinburgh, 1955 The transcribed pages are 110 to 114 inclusive in the book The order is: Name [My capitalisation]; Place; Year From/To; Status or Occupation. Malcolm McMILLEN; Glenamuill; 1727/29; Tenant Thomas WEER; Glenamuill; 1728/29; Tenant John McNACHLAN; Drimarranach; 1729; Tenant Neill McMURCHY; Mullbuy; 1729; Tenant Duncan GRAHAM; Achinsavill; 1730/31; Tenant Patrick McCORMA; Glemanuill; 1730/31; Tenant John McILMICHELL; Borgadillmore; 1730/34/35/36/37; Tenant Diarmoid McVICCAR; Borgadillmore; 1730/34; Tenant Donald WEER; Glenamuill; 1732/33/35/36; Tenant Neil McGOMRIE; Borgadil; 1733; Tenant Neil McILCHONALY; Glemanuill; 1734/35; Tenant Archd McNEILL; Ormsary; 1735/36; Tenant John McVICCAR; Borgadillmore; 1735/36; Tenant --- WYLY; Campbeltown; 1735/36; Baillie Neill McILCHONALY; Mucklach; 1735/36; Tenant John McQUALISKY; --- ; 1734; Weaver John O DRAIN; Strone; 1725; Tenant Archd McCORQUIDELL; ? ; 1736; Jointly paying rent [with Rose McMillen below] Rose McMILLEN; ? ; 1736; Jointly paying rent [with Archd McCorquidell above] Archd McNEILL; Mulbuij; 1737/39; Tenant Malcolm McILHENIJ; 1/2 Lepinbegg; 1737/40; Tenant Malcolm McCLARTY; 1/2 Lepinbegg; 1737/40; Tenant Duncan McCALLUM; Ballincuissag; 1737; Tenant Hew WHITE; Campbeltown; 1737; Merchant John WYLY; Drimnamucklach; 1737; Servant Patrick McILCHREEST; Knockbane; 1737; Schoolmaster Malcolm McNEILL; Glenadill; 1738/39; Tenant Malcolm McCAMROSS; ffeorlin; 1739; Tenant Iver McCALLUM; Carskey; 1739; "my servant" John McMILLEN; Ballinacuissag; 1739; Becomes Tenant Malcolm McNEILL; Collinlongart; 1739; Becomes Tenant Donald McLOENAIN; Ballinacuissag; 1739; Tenant I realise that there is a pretty large gap between these dates and those of the written records which are used by most family history researchers. However, at least one list member has found a link between the names in the McNeill of Carskey book and their own family. I hope that others will have found this transcription useful. However... I cannot guarantee that there are no transcription errors. Before relying on this data, it would be wise to check the original book, which may, in any case contain other relevant information. With best regards Sarah

HI again Al, As Katie says - being there makes such a difference then you can imagine the places you are following the 'paper trail' along. The archives are brilliant but if you never get the feel of where your ancestors lived (preferably at least partly on foot - they didn't drive or fly), what's the point? I sometimes cheat and hire a bike. Some may have had bikes? Best wishes, Mary

Jennie, You will probably get help from someone on the list but if you don't, give RAOGK (Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness) a try for the area you want. You get some brilliantly helpful people on it - and some less so. Cheers, Mary (also in Oz but was a RAOGK photographer when we were in Scotland)

On 01/02/07, Jennie Towan <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi > As a newcomer to the list, I have a BIG request. Is there some very, very > kind person who lives near Appin and who owns a digital camera ....... and > > could visit t& take photos of he ruined church & McArthur/McPhee > headstones? > I am told the church is not far out of the centre of Appin, and it does > not > have a roof. My McArthur interests are: Les Horn should be about -- he should know someone !! I would love to be able to but I REALLY need to get Ardchattan finished, and start with the Benderloch one and the Dalvuie site - I got nothing done last autumn and if it pours with rain all next week I will be scuppered again. We only get a few hours off a day for a week in Feb and a week in Oct so we are very limited with "out and about" time The Appin Historical Society have been around a long time They may well have information that can help you MCARTHUR Malcolm, farmer > SINCLAIR Christina (wife) > MCARTHUR John (son born abt1825 Lochgilphead) > MCPHEE Margaret (wife of John, born abt1837 Appin - or Port Appin) > MCPHEE John (Margaret's father, farmer) > LIVINGSTON Mary (Margaret's mother) > > I have not done much research yet, and would appreciate any pointers > (thanks > for posting the recent valuable info btw). Cheers all, Jennie (Australia) Try the Lismore sites and contacts as well -- there are still strong Livingston connections There is a new Heritage centre being built there -- Its one place which REALLY has got its act together about local and social history but its been a long hard slog and all done by the local community. I am looking forward to a visit there in May [anyone wanting to join a expertly guided Lismore visit including the wild botany and the Heritage centre and archaelogical sites let me know -- May 12th regards Jill Bowis www.benderloch.org.uk/forum - Ardchattan history, geology, ecology, genealogy, weather, webcam, local forum www.kintaline.co.uk - where we are, what we do: Kintaline Plant and Poultry Centre

Hi As a newcomer to the list, I have a BIG request. Is there some very, very kind person who lives near Appin and who owns a digital camera ....... and could visit t& take photos of he ruined church & McArthur/McPhee headstones? I am told the church is not far out of the centre of Appin, and it does not have a roof. My McArthur interests are: MCARTHUR Malcolm, farmer SINCLAIR Christina (wife) MCARTHUR John (son born abt1825 Lochgilphead) MCPHEE Margaret (wife of John, born abt1837 Appin - or Port Appin) MCPHEE John (Margaret's father, farmer) LIVINGSTON Mary (Margaret's mother) I have not done much research yet, and would appreciate any pointers (thanks for posting the recent valuable info btw). Cheers all, Jennie (Australia)

Jennie asked > Is there some very, very kind person who lives near Appin and who owns a > digital camera ....... and could visit t& take photos of he ruined church > & McArthur/McPhee headstones? I'll call in next time I'm passing Kinlochlaigh Old Churchyard on my way to Oban. However, according to the Cargill/Fairweather (1968) Index there isn't a headstone for any of her lot. Regards Les ========================== Lochaber and North Argyll Family History Group - http://tinyurl.com/y6te7n ==========================

Hi Chris, Thanks to a very kind list member, I have parents for my 4xgreatgrandmother, Margaret (nee BLACK) HAMILTON. When you mentioned BLACKs of Canongate, it meant nothing to me, in fact I did not even know where Canongate was located. But the new info. I got is this ... In the Register of Deaths for the Parish of Kilberry, County of Argyll, Registration District 516/2, in the year 1870, Entry number 1 concerns the death of Margaret HAMILTON or BLACK, married to George HAMILTON, farmer. Date of death: 1870, March 23 at 4 a.m. Place of death: Teretigan, Parish of Kilberry Age: 76 years Father: John BLACK, Farmer (deceased) Mother: Catherine BLACK, maiden surname LOCKIE (deceased) Cause of death: Palpitations of heart Informant: George HAMILTON, husband of deceased, signed Register in his own hand, but was not present at death. The 1851 Census return for the family in Kilberry gives Margaret's place of birth as Edinburgh. Possibly the entry reads "Edinburgh, Canongate" The 1841 Census for Carnwath, Lanarkshire simply indicates that Margaret was not born in Lanarkshire So you see Canongate is now a distinct possibility for my BLACKs' place of origin too. Did your BLACKs have any Argyll connections? Or perhaps Carnwath or Lesmahagow, Lanark connections? I might get lucky with the LOCKIE name I'm thinking - it seems to be rather uncommon, but quite a few to be found in Edinburgh. In genealogy, every answer comes with 10 more questions! lol Mary Fletcher Harris Barrie, Ontario, Canada > Hi Mary > I don't know if this is any help but we have some Blacks in our family > from > Canongate -

Hi all Just remembered a useful URL from the Tobermory website: To quote "The Isle of Mull Virtual Tour is comprised of panoramic photographs from all over Mull and its neighbouring islands, Iona and Ulva. It offers 360 degree panoramas of stunning views from the top of Ben More, Mull's highest mountain, to the picturesque harbour front of Tobermory." http://www.tobermory.co.uk/Mull_virtual_tour.htm Best Wishes Les ========================== Lochaber and North Argyll Family History Group - http://tinyurl.com/y6te7n ==========================

On 31/01/07, Al Patrick <[email protected]> wrote: > > Unfortunately, the answer to all three of your questions is "no." I have > no > idea what work my ancestors were able to do, nor where they worked. > Apparently; however, they did live for some time in Campbeltown, since > they > had several children there in 1770's and 80's. > > Thank you for your suggestions. > > Allison First go through every Kintyre connection website you can find - there are many more of those than for up this end! Then It may sound strange but in view of that then I "would" go to Campbeltown You are more likely to fall across something or someone who can make a connection to a place. Locate all the graveyards in the area and visit them all - one of them had to be buried somewhere Although late 1700's is going some there are old records. Contact the Argyll and Bute archives and ask them for the details of the graveyards and churches of the area http://www.argyll-bute.gov.uk/content/leisure/localhistory/introductiontoarchives?a=0 Ask where the details for the burials of each on is - held somewhere in C'town or in L'head If you drop in a couple of the names and dates you may even get very lucky and they look for you <grin> Put a list of all you have found here at least 3 weeks before you leave in case others can point you to more [I have a pal who might be able to think of the more obscure ones down there if you don't find them] One of the best things would be to put up a list of the names and dates here so that anyone who is lurking or visits between now and then can fall across them and may be able to help point you in the right direction I fear that the NAS would be more paper and little extra knowledge The graveyards may well be your best best. That would then give you the kirks the estates and clans. regards Jill Bowis www.benderloch.org.uk/forum - Ardchattan history, geology, ecology, genealogy, weather, webcam, local forum www.kintaline.co.uk - where we are, what we do: Kintaline Plant and Poultry Centre

Thank you for that explanation, Allison. I see now that you have all the information I was suggesting but - before anyone spends money on the online national archives I've been raving about - I'd better add that I see that nothing like all the Campbeltown parish baptisms indicate exactly where the parents were living in the parish. Good luck wherever your trail leads you Katie de Haan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Patrick" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; "Hardy Plants" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Genealogy in Scotland > My thanks to all who have responded. FYI, I have accessed the internet > sites > listed and have accounts at Ancestry.com and Scotlandspeople. I have > collected all the available information, it seems, that is available from > the Church of LDS site and the two previous sites. I just have run into a > wall. Perhaps it would be best to spend our time in Edinburgh at the > National Archives.

Hello Al Great advice from Jill there. My hands on experience of the archives will be of no help, but I second what Jill says about finding out as much as you can before arriving in Argyll. Beyond that, I've found I most appreciated the time I spent, indeed, 'mooching around' the areas where my ancestors must have lived in Scotland. To me, that is wonderful, worth its weight in gold, never long enough and I yearn for more time there. The paper trail is marvellous and I've filled in lots about how their lives would have been, but 'being there' is best and you may find the odd living descendant there as well. In comparison, my husband's family for generations back came from one area here in Holland which is now built up and unrecognisable. Very sad and, admittedly, this does happen to the occasional street in Scottish towns as well but, beyond the urban areas, there is much to be found to echo our past. OK, it's not exactly how it was 200 years ago, but there are places where you have a sense of treading the same tracks along the same shorelines as they did - even the odd building they lived in... I would add a couple of things about the paper trail. If you already have all this, then my apologies. I don't know how much you have on the Patricks, but what may well be their marriage banns in 1775 and a whole load of their babies' baptisms appear to be online at the Scotland's People site www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk It's a pay site but well worth all it turns up. The banns record is for 4th February 1775 - if it is them, then you have something to celebrate this week! The banns may or may not tell you anything useful, but there's a fair chance the baptism of what would seem to be their eldest daughter, Katherin, in December 1775, can tell you where in Campbeltown Parish they were living at the time of her birth. As I say, maybe you know all this, but if not, you can explore online before ever leaving for Argyll. Having found these records in the index at 20 p sterling for the index, it is then possible to download and print them yourself for 1 pound sterling, or send off for a fine paper copy at ten pounds sterling a time. These old parish records themselves have only been online for a matter of days, so now is a good time to start. Finding out all this beforehand, you'll have more time to explore when you arrive in Argyll. I've also found a few books there in Argyll that I'd not seen online and these have also been helpful in making amazing new discoveries. I still want to explore the archives further in Lochgilphead, Glasgow and Ediburgh but, for me, 'BEING THERE' has to take precedence when time and resources are limited. Good luck in your trail and I hope you get as much enjoyment out of it all as I have. Greetings from Holland Katie de Haan MCVEAN SINCLAIR MCKELLAR CLARK & MCINTYRE Argyll, Renfrew > LKS Scotland MCCALLUM MUNRO BEATON BETHUNE: Sutherland, Ross & Cromarty > LKS MCCALLUM Perthshire pre 1780 BEATON BETHUNE Skye pre 1670 KING PALMER LANGSTONE CARR HUTT Oxon/Berks UK KING JACKSON WEEDON Middlesex/London City/East End UK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Patrick" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 10:34 PM Subject: [ARGYLL] Genealogy in Scotland > This summer my wife and I will be journeying to Scotland to do a little > family research. As near as I can tell, my gg-grandfather, Thomas Patrick, > was born in Campbeltown in 1780, of Jacob Patrick and Mary Taylor. That is > as far as I can go. > > Would anyone be willing to provide me with some tips on genealogy research > in the Argyll area? I have never done any research of any sort in > Scotland, altho' we have visited several times. Should I start in the > National Archieves? Is there a genealogy center for Argyll that would have > data? There is so much I don't know it would fill a book. > > We will be flying into Glascow from Dubln, Ireland. What is the best mode > of transport to the Argyll area? With the thought that research is my > primary goal, where would be the best place to establish our "base camp"? > We will only have a few days (maybe three or four) in which to do our > studies. > > Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. And worth a pint or two if > you would be willing to meet with us, my wife and me, during our stay. > > Allison Patrick > Things I learned in Ireland: Two make the > road short. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 31/01/07, Al Patrick <[email protected]> wrote: > > My thanks to all who have responded. FYI, I have accessed the internet > sites > listed and have accounts at Ancestry.com and Scotlandspeople. I have > collected all the available information, it seems, that is available from > the Church of LDS site and the two previous sites. I just have run into a > wall. Perhaps it would be best to spend our time in Edinburgh at the > National Archives. > > We have done extensive family history seeking in Ireland for my wife's > family and the National Archives there was our best source, along with > certain National School records in her family's home community. I was kind > of hoping that similar records might exist in Campbeltown. > > Again, thank you, > > Allison Do you know which estate your ancestors were working for or in? Do you know which places of worship they used? Do you know which parishes you are looking for? If might well be worth researching the archives for these resources before leaving. Some can be held in unexpected places There are almost no records for our Kirk Sessions here and, I gather, precious few in the CoS archives. This may well be because it was the estates here, who had most to do with the welfare of the parishioners - not the Kirk. So unlike elsewhere there are few of the really useful poor relief records. I gather this parish was pretty appaling at replying to any enquiries from other places too. They sort of let folks get on with it and the estates picked up most of the 'community care' that was dispensed. While much of the records for our estates is in NAS I believe -- there is alot that is not. They are in various places elsewhere. This would take time to find out -- so do it before you leave. It would be best to fire some places and names up here -- there are always clever folks with lots of knowledge around and that way lots more people get help in the future. regards Jill Bowis www.benderloch.org.uk/forum - Ardchattan history, geology, ecology, genealogy, weather, webcam, local forum www.kintaline.co.uk - where we are, what we do: Kintaline Plant and Poultry Centre

Al Patrick wrote: > This summer my wife and I will be journeying to Scotland to do a > little family research. As near as I can tell, my gg-grandfather, > Thomas Patrick, was born in Campbeltown in 1780, of Jacob Patrick and > Mary Taylor. That is as far as I can go. Have you harvested everything you can from www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk and of www.nas.gov.uk [www.ancestry.co.uk / www.freecen.org.uk] that you can? Its a long way to come and takes a lot of time to transcribe the details from records you could have got online when there might be goodies that you can only get in the archives that you don't get time for! The National Archives in Edinburgh are the most comprehensive resource The Mitchell Library in Glasgow has some more West Coast things There is only the local archive in Lochgilphead with no archivist and its hours are short. [Jill kicks her soap box out of reach - but we should have a genealogical centre for folks like yourself here - we don't and won't while our council remains so blinkered and broke -- oops it did not go far enough ;)] > > Would anyone be willing to provide me with some tips on genealogy > research in the Argyll area? I have never done any research of any > sort in Scotland, altho' we have visited several times. Should I > start in the National Archieves? Is there a genealogy center for > Argyll that would have data? There is so much I don't know it would > fill a book. If you can let us know what you DO have then its easier for folks to guide you to the most efficient resources > > We will be flying into Glascow from Dubln, Ireland. What is the best > mode of transport to the Argyll area? CAR !!!! - Easycar hire from the airport Public transport is diabolical With the thought that research > is my primary goal, where would be the best place to establish our > "base camp"? We will only have a few days (maybe three or four) in > which to do our studies. eeekk Urm -- difficult in such a short space of time What is your real goal -- getting as much information as possible? -- in which case go to Edinburgh and spend all your time there -- getting a feel of where your ancestors lived and worked but getting little info in the time -- in which case go to Campbeltown and mooch about. I know that sounds hard some places that might help http://www.libcat.glasgow.gov.uk/cgi-bin/cat-contents.sh?enqtype=MITCHELL http://www.glasgow.gov.uk/en/Residents/Libraries/Collections/ArchivesandSpecialCollections/ http://www.nas.gov.uk/doingResearch/default.asp It would be really helpful if others here lurking who have used the NAS and the Mitchell recently could give us all some insights as to how to make time there most efficient. I too hope to get to NAS this spring [although its looking more doubtful now ;( ] and I have only had a chance to spend a day in the Mitchell some years ago so any tales of peoples real experiences would be really really useful > > Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. And worth a pint or two > if you would be willing to meet with us, my wife and me, during our > stay. That would be wonderful but I fear you are going to be too far south or east to get to us in such limited time regards Jill Bowis www.benderloch.org.uk/forum - Ardchattan history, geology, ecology, genealogy, weather, webcam, local forum www.kintaline.co.uk - where we are, what we do: Kintaline Plant and Poultry Centre

My thanks to all who have responded. FYI, I have accessed the internet sites listed and have accounts at Ancestry.com and Scotlandspeople. I have collected all the available information, it seems, that is available from the Church of LDS site and the two previous sites. I just have run into a wall. Perhaps it would be best to spend our time in Edinburgh at the National Archives. We have done extensive family history seeking in Ireland for my wife's family and the National Archives there was our best source, along with certain National School records in her family's home community. I was kind of hoping that similar records might exist in Campbeltown. Again, thank you, Allison ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hardy Plants" <[email protected]> To: "Al Patrick" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 6:04 AM Subject: Re: [ARGYLL] Genealogy in Scotland > Al Patrick wrote: >> This summer my wife and I will be journeying to Scotland to do a >> little family research. As near as I can tell, my gg-grandfather, >> Thomas Patrick, was born in Campbeltown in 1780, of Jacob Patrick and >> Mary Taylor. That is as far as I can go. > > Have you harvested everything you can from www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk and > of www.nas.gov.uk [www.ancestry.co.uk / www.freecen.org.uk] that you can? > Its a long way to come and takes a lot of time to transcribe the details > from records you could have got online when there might be goodies that > you can only get in the archives that you don't get time for! > > The National Archives in Edinburgh are the most comprehensive resource > The Mitchell Library in Glasgow has some more West Coast things > There is only the local archive in Lochgilphead with no archivist and its > hours are short. > [Jill kicks her soap box out of reach - but we should have a genealogical > centre for folks like yourself here - we don't and won't while our council > remains so blinkered and broke -- oops it did not go far enough ;)] > >> >> Would anyone be willing to provide me with some tips on genealogy >> research in the Argyll area? I have never done any research of any >> sort in Scotland, altho' we have visited several times. Should I >> start in the National Archieves? Is there a genealogy center for >> Argyll that would have data? There is so much I don't know it would >> fill a book. > > If you can let us know what you DO have then its easier for folks to guide > you to the most efficient resources > >> >> We will be flying into Glascow from Dubln, Ireland. What is the best >> mode of transport to the Argyll area? > > CAR !!!! - Easycar hire from the airport > Public transport is diabolical > > With the thought that research >> is my primary goal, where would be the best place to establish our >> "base camp"? We will only have a few days (maybe three or four) in >> which to do our studies. > > eeekk > > Urm -- difficult in such a short space of time > What is your real goal > -- getting as much information as possible? -- in which case go to > Edinburgh and spend all your time there > -- getting a feel of where your ancestors lived and worked but getting > little info in the time -- in which case go to Campbeltown and mooch > about. > > I know that sounds hard > > some places that might help > http://www.libcat.glasgow.gov.uk/cgi-bin/cat-contents.sh?enqtype=MITCHELL > http://www.glasgow.gov.uk/en/Residents/Libraries/Collections/ArchivesandSpecialCollections/ > http://www.nas.gov.uk/doingResearch/default.asp > > It would be really helpful if others here lurking who have used the NAS > and the Mitchell recently could give us all some insights as to how to > make time there most efficient. > I too hope to get to NAS this spring [although its looking more doubtful > now ;( ] and I have only had a chance to spend a day in the Mitchell some > years ago > so any tales of peoples real experiences would be really really useful > >> >> Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. And worth a pint or two >> if you would be willing to meet with us, my wife and me, during our >> stay. > > That would be wonderful but I fear you are going to be too far south or > east to get to us in such limited time > > regards > Jill Bowis > www.benderloch.org.uk/forum - Ardchattan history, geology, ecology, > genealogy, weather, webcam, local forum > www.kintaline.co.uk - where we are, what we do: Kintaline Plant and > Poultry Centre > >

Possible repeat message - sent nine hours ago, but not appearing in my mailbox or the Rootsweb archives -----Original Message----- From: Sarah Galbraith [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 30 January 2007 14:06 To: Argyll Mailing List Subject: Southend names 1710 - 1740, Part 5 Next group of names from the MacNeill of Carskey book (see earlier message for details). The order is: Name [My capitalisation]; Place; Year From/To; Status or Occupation. David CAMPBELL; Witchburn; 1722; Bailie Donald McSHENOIG; Carrin; 1722; Tenant John McMILLEN; Keill; 1722; Tenant Gulchuim McILCHONALY; Ballinacuisag; 1723; Tenant Patrick McCOMRA; Balimacomra; 1723; Tenant Neill McILHEANY; Carskey; 1723/37; Servant Neill McLEONAN; Kerameanach; 1723; Tenant Diarmoid McVICCAR; Borgadilmore; 1722; Tenant Neill McMILLEN; Upperkeill; 1722; Tenant John McILMICHELL; Glemanuill; 1723/24; Tenant Neill McCOMRA; Borgadillmore; 1723/31/34; Part Tenant Margarett McMURCHY; Achinsavill; 1723; Part Tenant Alexander McMILLEN; Glemanuill; 1724/28; Part Tenant Samuel WEER; Laggs; 1723; ? John McMURCHY; Lower Glenadill; 1723; Tenant Donald O DRAIN; Mucklich; 1723/23; Tenant Neill McKAY; Branerikin; 1724/25; Tenant Thomas PURDIE; --- ; 1724; Merchant Donald McWILLIAM; Strone; 1723/24; Tenant William McCLARTY; Carskey; 1724; Tenant William HERVEY; Kilblan; 1724; William CORDINER; Kilchreist; 1724; Cloathier David CAMPBELL; Campbeltown; 1725; Baillie James SPEER; Monirua; 1725; Tenant Ewn McSHENOIG; Branerikin; 1725; Tenant Duncan McSHENOIG; Ballinacuissag; 1726; Tenant Malcolm McNEILL; Lepinbeg; 1726/28; Tenant Georg McVICCAR; Campbeltown; 1725; Merchant Donald McDONALD; Achinsavill; 1725/34; Tenant Donald McKILLOP; Glenmanuill; 1725/31; Tenant Georg WALLACE; Machrimore Milln; 1726; ? Lachlan McNEILL; Glenadill; 1726; Tenant Archd McMURCHY; Glenadill; 1726; Tenant Neill McILCHONALY; ? ; 1726; Shoemaker Donald McMURCHIE; Mulbuy; 1726; Tenant Duncan McMILLEN; Achinsavill; 1726/28/29; Part Tenant Alexr McMILLEN; Glenmanuill; 1726/32/34/35/36; Tenant (One further page remains, and a message containing will be sent over the next few days) Sarah

This summer my wife and I will be journeying to Scotland to do a little family research. As near as I can tell, my gg-grandfather, Thomas Patrick, was born in Campbeltown in 1780, of Jacob Patrick and Mary Taylor. That is as far as I can go. Would anyone be willing to provide me with some tips on genealogy research in the Argyll area? I have never done any research of any sort in Scotland, altho' we have visited several times. Should I start in the National Archieves? Is there a genealogy center for Argyll that would have data? There is so much I don't know it would fill a book. We will be flying into Glascow from Dubln, Ireland. What is the best mode of transport to the Argyll area? With the thought that research is my primary goal, where would be the best place to establish our "base camp"? We will only have a few days (maybe three or four) in which to do our studies. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. And worth a pint or two if you would be willing to meet with us, my wife and me, during our stay. Allison Patrick Things I learned in Ireland: Two make the road short.

Next group of names from the MacNeill of Carskey book (see earlier message for details). The order is: Name [My capitalisation]; Place; Year From/To; Status or Occupation. David CAMPBELL; Witchburn; 1722; Bailie Donald McSHENOIG; Carrin; 1722; Tenant John McMILLEN; Keill; 1722; Tenant Gulchuim McILCHONALY; Ballinacuisag; 1723; Tenant Patrick McCOMRA; Balimacomra; 1723; Tenant Neill McILHEANY; Carskey; 1723/37; Servant Neill McLEONAN; Kerameanach; 1723; Tenant Diarmoid McVICCAR; Borgadilmore; 1722; Tenant Neill McMILLEN; Upperkeill; 1722; Tenant John McILMICHELL; Glemanuill; 1723/24; Tenant Neill McCOMRA; Borgadillmore; 1723/31/34; Part Tenant Margarett McMURCHY; Achinsavill; 1723; Part Tenant Alexander McMILLEN; Glemanuill; 1724/28; Part Tenant Samuel WEER; Laggs; 1723; ? John McMURCHY; Lower Glenadill; 1723; Tenant Donald O DRAIN; Mucklich; 1723/23; Tenant Neill McKAY; Branerikin; 1724/25; Tenant Thomas PURDIE; --- ; 1724; Merchant Donald McWILLIAM; Strone; 1723/24; Tenant William McCLARTY; Carskey; 1724; Tenant William HERVEY; Kilblan; 1724; William CORDINER; Kilchreist; 1724; Cloathier David CAMPBELL; Campbeltown; 1725; Baillie James SPEER; Monirua; 1725; Tenant Ewn McSHENOIG; Branerikin; 1725; Tenant Duncan McSHENOIG; Ballinacuissag; 1726; Tenant Malcolm McNEILL; Lepinbeg; 1726/28; Tenant Georg McVICCAR; Campbeltown; 1725; Merchant Donald McDONALD; Achinsavill; 1725/34; Tenant Donald McKILLOP; Glenmanuill; 1725/31; Tenant Georg WALLACE; Machrimore Milln; 1726; ? Lachlan McNEILL; Glenadill; 1726; Tenant Archd McMURCHY; Glenadill; 1726; Tenant Neill McILCHONALY; ? ; 1726; Shoemaker Donald McMURCHIE; Mulbuy; 1726; Tenant Duncan McMILLEN; Achinsavill; 1726/28/29; Part Tenant Alexr McMILLEN; Glenmanuill; 1726/32/34/35/36; Tenant (One further page remains, and a message containing will be sent over the next few days) Sarah