Bob: I am copying this to the Sumter List, also, relative to questions, below. Thanks so much for the response! As best I can tell (land platts, etc.), the old John Shaw (the immigrant) home place is in the SW (possibly the SE) quarter of the intersection of SC #527 and I-95. The old cemetery site (one can actually pick out the cemetery site terrain on the US Coast & Geo. Survey map) turns out to be probably on what I think used to be the Capt. George Cooper (elder for 33 years in Brick Church & father of GW "william" Cooper) plantation. That is, the Shaw's and Coopers were next-door-neighbors. Both families were deeply involved in the Presby. church, and I have wondered if there is any historical library (PC?, Princeton) which might have collected any old correspondence with the pastors of Brick Church or Concord or Mayesville...maybe even pastor's diaries; do you know how to pursue this? I've seen old Brick Church session records here in Columbia at the Carolinianna library and at the archives in Montreat, NC. My files show that Judge AJ Shaw's father was a Thomas Lynch Shaw (1795-1855) and mother was Nanette Walker (1810-1863). I don't know for sure my source, but I had that Capt. George Cooper's wife was Isabella Bradley ( a Sumter List post from you to a Blanche had indicated his wife as Jane Law): could you double check on this? You and I are clearly "connected"; a previous program that I used, Brothers Keeper, could calculate relationships. I use Reunion software now and it only calculates up to 255 "blood" relationships. I am 56 and am guessing that you are maybe 52. I would certainly like the Cooper direct line from GW "William" back to at least the immigrant and any immigrant info (the ship...the story, etc.). That reminds me: Is there an internet web site that really goes into some detail about what the immigrant ships of the 1700's were like...I'd love to be able to have more authoritative detail, for example about the John Shaw immigrant ship, Hopewell? Ervin & Betty Shaw Lexington, S. C. my web site http://www.public.usit.net/poptop photo at office http://www.lexmed.com/medical.htm